Monday, November 28, 2011

Psychopath myths

From Scientific American, author of the book "50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology," Scott Lilienfeld, discusses some myths and misconceptions about psychopaths. Some of the highlights:
  • Few disorders are as misunderstood as is psychopathic personality.
  • Research also suggests that a sizable number of psychopaths may be walking among us in everyday life. Some investigators have even speculated that “successful psychopaths”—those who attain prominent positions in society—may be overrepresented in certain occupations, such as politics, business and entertainment. Yet the scientific evidence for this intriguing conjecture is preliminary.
  • Psychopathy seems to be present in both Western and non-Western cultures, including those that have had minimal exposure to media portrayals of the condition.
Here are the myths:
  1. All psychopaths are violent. Research by psychologists such as Randall T. Salekin, now at the University of Alabama, indicates that psychopathy is a risk factor for future physical and sexual violence. Moreover, at least some serial killers—for example, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and Dennis Rader, the infamous “BTK” (Bind, Torture, Kill) murderer—have manifested numerous psychopathic traits, including superficial charm and a profound absence of guilt and empathy. Nevertheless, most psychopaths are not violent, and most violent people are not psychopaths. . . . Regrettably, the current (fourth, revised) edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR), published in 2000, only reinforces the confusion between psychopathy and violence. It describes a condition termed antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), which is characterized by a longstanding history of criminal and often physically aggressive behavior, referring to it as synonymous with psychopathy. Yet research demonstrates that measures of psychopathy and ASPD overlap only moderately.
  2. All psychopaths are psychotic. In contrast to people with psychotic disorders, such as schizophrenia, who often lose contact with reality, psychopaths are almost always rational.
  3. Psychopathy is untreatable. . . . Although psychopaths are often unmotivated to seek treatment, research by psychologist Jennifer Skeem of the University of California, Irvine, and her colleagues suggests that psychopaths may benefit as much as nonpsychopaths from psychological treatment. Even if the core personality traits of psychopaths are exceedingly difficult to change, their criminal behaviors may prove more amenable to treatment.

614 comments:

  1. I think treating psychopaths would be a great challenge. I always thought it was a form of ignorance when they dismissed the illness as being incurable. It reminded me a lot of racism, or other prejudices.

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  2. Michael Martin PlunkettNovember 28, 2011 at 1:10 AM

    the question for the day is-

    what is the difference between the psychopath and the sociopath? is there a difference? the internet does not provide clear answer

    sometimes i hear there is a difference sometimes i hear they are the same thing sometimes that there are no such things only aspd

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  3. @Micheal

    A psychopath is a person who displays traits of ASPD, but they are also grandiose, impulsive, extremely callous and emotionally shallow.

    A person with ASPD is almost always in trouble with the law and they can hold loyalty to a group/family.

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  4. sociopaths are cowards, bullies. they are sneaky fucks. i'm an idealist with strong sentiments and there are two probable sociopaths where i live. months back, i was walking my girlfriend home to her apartment. there was a group of guys on the other side of the road and one of them (the sociopath) threw a vodka bottle our way, missing my girlfriends head by an inch. and he began laughing and insulting me and my girlfriend.

    all his friends were high fiving the coward and he was shouting at me to come over, only because his buddies were there. (i'm wayy bigger than him lol) the funny thing is he is so quiet and friendly when he has no backup!

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  5. Michael Martin PlunkettNovember 28, 2011 at 1:45 AM

    so is the sociopath synonym for the psychopath? or the aspd? or something else?

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  6. @Michael

    I'm not sure on specifics like dates, but from what I understand, psychopathy, sociopathy, and ASPD all refer to the same thing. Originally the disorder was called psychopathy, but the negative connotation throughout society got out of control so when they updated the DSM, they changed the term (and possibly some of the criteria) to become sociopathy. When the same thing happened with that new term, they changed it to ASPD. The connotations and uses are different because of that, and honestly I'm not sure about how much the criteria has changed as understanding of the disorder has deepened, but the terms have all been describing roughly the same thing, and technically both the term "sociopathy" and the term "psychopathy" are outdated.

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  8. The Official SW Regular Theme Song CollectionNovember 28, 2011 at 2:01 AM

    Female Beepers'theme song

    If this one doesn't work, it's the link, not me.

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  9. Psychopath sounds more bad ass than sociopath.

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  10. Michael Martin PlunkettNovember 28, 2011 at 2:41 AM

    the other day i was watching the tv show criminal minds from the tv there was two criminals there the fbi cops said the other 1 was the psychopath and the other the sociopath they said there was a difference but the difference was very small

    so i tried to observe the characters to learn what the difference was and to me it seemed like the psychopath was the more dominating more in control of the two

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  11. Granted; more like hilarious parody-troll.

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  12. I was thinking about the unique traits of the sociopath and how some of them are outright better, more adapted to life. I have a lot of anxiety, guilt and regret. My sociopath g/f has little. I care for outside approval, while she does not, very much.
    However, I am more adapted, as a whole, because I have all the pieces, albeit not in the healthiest ways possible, by any stretch of the imagination.

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  13. These so-called 'myths' seem more like the musings of an idealist who is waving conjecture around as fact.

    I don't see any hard evidence to the contrary.

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  14. Heh, it's the morning, alright. #2 seems like a myth for the most part.

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  15. Themes for SW Regulars as HisselfNovember 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM

    THANK YOU for the hyperlinks and the appreciation for the themes. Each was chosen with careful consideration as the the unique qualities of the individual, in question.

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  16. What is the theme song for the Theme Song person?

    Do I sense a touch of obsession, and caring to please others? Definitely no sociopath in you.

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  17. Psychopaths are almost always rational?????

    Wonder what M.E. was thinking when she said that. Impulsive and rational don't go hand in hand. Success at the significant cost to others is not sensible, shows no capacity to reason. Masks are only to come down one day, where is the reason?

    rational |ˈra sh ənl; ˈra sh nəl|
    adjective
    1 based on or in accordance with reason or logic : I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation.
    • (of a person) able to think clearly, sensibly, and logically : Andrea's upset—she's not being very rational.
    See note at sensible .
    • endowed with the capacity to reason : man is a rational being.

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  18. "sociopaths are cowards, bullies. they are sneaky fucks. i'm an idealist with strong sentiments and there are two probable sociopaths where i live. months back, i was walking my girlfriend home to her apartment. there was a group of guys on the other side of the road and one of them (the sociopath) threw a vodka bottle our way, missing my girlfriends head by an inch. and he began laughing and insulting me and my girlfriend.

    all his friends were high fiving the coward and he was shouting at me to come over, only because his buddies were there. (i'm wayy bigger than him lol) the funny thing is he is so quiet and friendly when he has no backup!"


    How do you know he/she was a sociopath and not just a shite?

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  19. Sceli, you're an idiot. You seriously need to shut your pie hole.

    You can't throw around a dictionary without context, especially when what is "logical" or "rational" is defined by the perspective of the Psychopath. Don't even bother trying to refute that. It would be a voluntary act of intellectual suicide.

    You've either been replaced by someone else or you're a bigger idiot than I remember.

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  20. who's theme song is this?November 28, 2011 at 6:35 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIcfFD30Ms

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  21. Theme Songs for SW Regulars as Hisself rsNovember 28, 2011 at 6:45 AM

    Scelli yours was not meant as a diss, but to show you that you are detached from people and don't see it.

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  22. Don't bother comforting Sceli.

    Her stupidity is so profound that removing her from the gene pool would be considered a valiant deed for the betterment of the human race.

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  23. Theme Songs for SW Regulars as HisslelfNovember 28, 2011 at 6:57 AM

    Shut up TNP. Get over yourself.
    Scelli is fantastic but needed to look at this part of herself, is all.

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  24. You forgot cockmaster and kao. Is Bella there too?

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  25. TNP, get an account.

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  26. I'll put that at the top of my Never Gonna Fucking Happen list, just for you. I know how much you like to feel validated.

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  27. You validate him/her by responding, TNP.

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  28. Themesong, is good at keeping score =)

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  30. @Themesong

    Thank you.

    You get my "Where trouble melts like lemon drops
    high above the chimney tops" validation.

    I am blinded by rainbows in a forest of wolves, gladiators and brick houses.

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  31. Sweetcheeks, get over here and blow me.

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  32. did someone say cock?

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  33. What anon, no dinner or formalities first?

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  34. Jane what's your song????

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  35. shut up sweetcheeks. You've been teasing everyone since you got here. When are you dumping that shite. Go get laid. You know you want it.

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  36. I've been sending you meals on wheels since you arrived, you dried up tease. You ungrateful bitch. Get over here and suck daddy's dick.

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  37. Here's my address, anon

    2 Winding Shadow Lane
    Grand Rapids, MI

    I just moved so I'll look up my zip code.

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  38. I do think these myths sound rather idealized.

    Treating psycopathy would not be traditional 'treatment' I don't think. You can not instill a sense of empathy in someone when it is lacking. What you can do is attempt to modify a persons behavior to be socially acceptable. For this you can increase their awareness of the discrepencies they display between how they act and what is appropriate for a situation.

    The difficulty in any of this is that lack of motivation. It's doubtful that most psychopaths notice or consider anything wrong with their behavior if they're non violent and aren't getting into some kind of trouble for how they act. It's hard to know there is something abnormal about how you respond to the world when your personal responses are all you know.

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  39. no incognito today

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  40. I already have your address you stupid ass. Forget the BJ. I can't get sucked off by a coked up whore.
    I'm mistaking you for someone else.

    I need a knap more than sex. Just massage me, then get the fuck out.

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  41. Looking for a washed up and desperate whore, call David. He would love the attention.

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  42. TNP I miss when you had an account. You blog was well written and though out. Interesting.

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  43. Where has David been? Has he sent a new video of himself?

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  44. "Go get laid. You know you want it."

    I get laid in real life, don't need to lower myself to sucking dick on command by the anons.

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  45. Themes, you seem to understand me, at least much better than most in SW. I am aware I am different from majority that's for sure. If for nothing else I often get that 'you think very differently,' 'I don't understand you,' type of comments often. I just walk the talk and keep walking, no time to worry about these people, no time to spend my time talking to them, just like in the song. I don't look back.

    The way I see it is I am both one with all and completely separate at the same time. I have no sense of masking in me, apart from basic social graces. When I see a mask I call people on it. So, those with heavy masking hate me if they sense that I don't respect who they are. Yeah, respect probably is more the word for me than love. Those who don't get me the most are the ones who'd do a lot in the name of love. I know who I am and like it the way it is so I don't bend easily just in the name of love. Watched an Ayn Rand bio, her family sounded like mine, plus her early aptitude success. The difference is she reacted against communism so much so that she fell for pure communism. I'd never. I also never had a desire to learn how to use people, but this may change. While I said I had no desire this possibly means I never consciously attempted to use anybody.

    I have frustrated every socio who took a shot at me, that's for sure. I still do, and really enjoy that.

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  46. TNP had a good blog. What happened to Res?

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  47. IDK Res hasn't posted in like a month =(

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  48. make that she fell for pure capitalism.

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  49. Sceli, you fly above it all, don't cha girl?

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  50. I came down three times, sweet. They were hard falls, but each time I recovered I got stronger and got to fly higher. Like Nietzsce says.

    The last flight will be the highest (death). I intend to go with a smile on my face, no regrets no guilt.

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  51. They're all your pretty dollies. Impressive.

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  52. Sceli have you dated a sociopath before?

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  53. I want to understand the beepers. Having read all that so far from the ladies who do call them beepers here I see that they have a good heart. Remember, I assess mom and sis as beepers. The way I am with so much go getting in me and focus I apparently neglected them and that drove them nuts. None of that was intentional, meaning I had no idea all that was need for attention. Things are going much better now.

    These ladies are quite independent in many ways, certainly not my dollies, but I am steadily growing to like them.

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  54. Wow, sceli you really think you are something special. People don't like you, because you are a confused idiot not because 'you think very differently' or because nobody can understand you, special snowflake. You've spent most of your time describing yourself on here to people, like a narcissist. I am this and I am that. It's a bunch of pulp, because days later you are changing it all. You haven't unmasked anybody here or said anything profound. Get over yourself.

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  55. Sceli, I can tell. It seems as you are determined to shit on every sociopath here in revenge.

    "I have frustrated every socio who took a shot at me, that's for sure. I still do, and really enjoy that."

    This has sociopath baggage written all over it.

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  56. zhawq,

    thank you, I appreciate your response. Strangely enough, despite the fact that I see them beautiful I also share your notion that I still am better, and upping others theoretically, and practically gives me an amazing high. It's as if I want them to approach only to prove I can be better with my very quick learning.

    I have to say, I am slowly getting scared of my own self, that I may have lived with a socio self for all those years and never really knew. It's like a coming out party.

    Once I accept that I went by a few strict moral codes, such as 'don't lie' and 'don't attack unless attacked' the rest of me is a high functioning socio with a score of 21 in the narcissist test we did the other day.

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  57. Sweet, one definition for happiness is defined as exercising your powers. I really enjoyed using them on the socio I dated. Caught a few lies and then instead of reacting immediately started gaming. He was worth the time, he was a great fuck. Let him go with a big bang at the end.

    When I ran into him ten years later he asked if I were still breaking hearts. My point is his revenge was already taken on him.

    None of my other exes ever said anything like that. My exes other than that guy are all still friends/acquaintances. All get what they deserve in life.

    I am not interested in revenge from Shrek, Fiona, TNP, etc. I actually have a crush on a socio here but can't tell.

    I am more interested in learning to love the beepers. By the way, I told before my dad in my mind is a socio, and I always loved him, I still do. He is not a criminal socio, and that means a lot to me. He has hurt the beepers in the family, yet they love him too.

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  58. I don't think anyone can unmask anyone here, except really loser situations like the two you ran across. First I was impressed first but then i realized some people basically think everybody is a loser, so lost interest. But did learn some good indications of what losers are like.

    I only try to contribute if I feel I have a thought, or get some fighting once in a while, but that fighting is so tedious and boring. The only serious value it has for me is basically exercising fighting power. Shooting range activity.

    Attention, no, not much interested, so time to walk.

    Thanks, Themes.

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  59. Sceli in April... cute fake Sceli.

    So long guys, all open for fake Sceli's now.

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  60. See Sceli, you drop your opinions and run off. If you were interested in fighting, you would stick around. You just come for a quick self esteem boost and leave once you feel better about yourself. Dodging those rotten tomatoes helps refill your ever dwindling self esteem.

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  61. "I actually have a crush on a socio here but can't tell."

    do tell, please.

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  62. That's a direct quote from you Sceli, not a fake. Want the link? It's the first comment you ever made when you came to sociopathworld. How can it be a fake sceli if there was no sceli before that. Don't run now. We are unmasking people remember? Here's one about your family you made in october, just so you know I wasn't throwing around fluff yesterday snowflake:

    My early life is far too good a girl, unfucking believable how I took everyone's word as honest and very seriously, and made sure I don't add any shit to the plate. Because my siblings were adding shit to the table and causing major fights between mom and dad, occasionally leading to some beating. Pretty much dad beat the crap out of all of them more than once (and pretty much frequency in correlation with intelligence). I did not get a single beating, stayed above his fucking expectations

    -Sceli

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  63. That was dumb, UKan. Try quoting Sceli if you are going to quote Sceli.

    You quoted something by 'socio o no'.

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  64. Just read Sceli in April in detail. I'll think more about that.

    Goodness, I am the house Dexter, then? Isn't that lovely? Not being cynical, possible.

    Only some questions. I love animals, I mean from lizard to elephants. ALways had pets, slept cheek to cheek. Take trips to some friends, honestly just to see their dogs. So, that's not fitting exactly.

    I said no to medical field because I just could not be around people's pain from sickness and death. Too hurtful. But I had no problem once attending a cut-person when I saw no one else doing anything.

    I am all open to socio diagnosis, no problem, but I violate too many of the items in there.

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  65. Michael Martin PlunkettNovember 28, 2011 at 9:40 AM

    i have that effect on people

    everybody has the crush on me i am the heart braker

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  66. sweet, are you trying to fill in Fiona's position? what's going on now, just as I said I want to like beepers you want a fight? won't fall for it, no interest.

    quick self-esteem fix. hey, if that easy everybody should come out here for that. and, why, you think I now have higher self-esteem after having stated what I think of myself?

    I walk, baby, as Themes said. I just walk because got things to do.

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  67. Michael

    That was a cheap cop out don't get excited. She had to find some other reason to be here, just like she is interested in beepers LMAO

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  68. these years i assumed my not wanting to hurt people had to do with my caring and empathy. it could be coming from a subconscious fear of getting caught, my mother is a chicken shit, so are all her side of the family. so, she is the type who does pathetical lying, but she fits narc more than socio.

    my dad always appeared so nice to others who were in position of power while being very demeaning towards the weak and very demanding at home. i was the only one who was not scared or abused because i was always above his expectations. can't say the same about the rest in the family, they all got abused significantly.

    mom had a very pleasant personality (in her mask) towards people, yet she has no problem saying occasionally that she does not like people. i'll be darn, i sure am raised by socio/narc combinations, and because my mom kept bitching about my dad all the time i thought i learned to care for the weak. but, i really did not.

    in some psychological tests they ask you where you'll be sitting at a table and they put different kinds of people around the table. I never sat next to a sick person in those and never would knowingly in real life.

    People who don't embrace change and learning also offend me, I feel they are as good as dead. Even the dead changes, but in a way he has no control. So, I don't want to associate with nonaware, noncurious, and change-refusing people.

    I am thinking of going after my parents, in the sense that giving them who they are in slow doses, forcing them to accept who they are. They sure fucked up my siblings (younger ones), the youngest is unaware thinking mother is the only one who cares in the family. Mother is power hungry, so started brown nosing me lately, fearing about her later years I suppose. I did tell at some point last year indeed one never knows who will be left behind to take care of them. Instilling subtle fears is the best way to control her

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  69. No Sceli, your bullshit stinks. I don't mind you, actually, but the socio sore spot was obvious in the lengthy statement about yourself.

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  70. Socio O No is sceli, medusa. You have a short memory. Go get some taco bell medusa and rest your fucked up hive you call a hair do. I don't need you jumping in yet another arguement where you don't know what you are talking about just because you feel deficient.


    kesu, i agree with you that I have had fears. but, getting rid of fears has been my life long goal. first it was the fear of flying, got rid of that completely. then came the dentist, got rid of that completely too. then it was waxing. got rid of that too. public speaking got eliminated as well. now it is collateral damage. i will eliminate that fear, that's what I am working on. when i was having the panic attacks i was also functional, actually I was able to breathe easily, it was more like my pulse was way above my normal and I did have chest pain plus a need to burp (sorry, a bit too much info). But, the whole time I was very calm and controlled and simply trying to think through how to completely stop it. Did some of the roll eyes to the top then close your eyes hypnosis relaxation, made my breathing a touch deeper and enjoyed a pleasant drink. The length of the attacks were steadily shorter. I have no such panic attack when I am under attack or threat. It is after the win that I have the above mentioned symptoms. When I lose (happened twice last year) my symptoms change to more of a fire ball, heat rising up my neck to my ears, stiffening back and sheer anger rolling all over my body. Even that I managed to ease up over time. It is important to me to eliminate all emotions around fear and anger. So you don't see a sociopath in me. Do you see a narcissist?
    (Sceli for you, socio o no for the records)

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  71. UKan, your efforts are useless unless you can establish that 'socio o no' is the same person as Sceli.

    I know you think your word is good enough... but it ain't.

    I ain't sticking up for Sceli, I just think your timing and target choice is interesting.

    Trying to reestablish your imaginary status and pride or what? How bored and unsatisfied are you with your life?

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  72. Is any of that statement directed to me, Medusa?

    How can someone NOT say anything with her long paragraphs about how great she is for pissing off sociopaths?

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  74. This is getting very curious now. You got my attention, will eat while reading. Not sure where things are coming from but you all agree that I am a socio?

    Now for a change, SW switched from proving those who claim to be a socio that they are not one to prove someone who claims to be an uber-empath that she is actually a socio?

    I mean, should I be honored given where we are, or should I be offended? Am I M.E.?

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  75. No Sweetcheeks, not not directed at you.

    Sceli's been posting her morning essays for weeks now. Yet today is the day to go after her? That's what I find interesting.

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  76. Trying to reestablish your imaginary status and pride or what? How bored and unsatisfied are you with your life?

    Did you read the end of the quote medusa? That is from when she got her name. I don't think she can be anymore clear than that.

    I think the description you just gave is of you medusa. You are the one trying to prove herself. You are getting so desperate that you are sticking up for anyone. This is pathetic. I hope you are on your rag medusa. At least that would be a better explanation for your recent behaviour

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  77. Oooh David you started a blog? Nice. Tired of the wacky going on here or what?

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  78. David, why did you think you'd be away for two months?

    Do you think I am a socio too?

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  79. Lol. I'm desperate. That's right.

    Look at yourself. You sure do expend a lot of effort on the inconsequential for someone who claims his life is so great. It used to be amusing and entertaining, but it's getting sad.

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  80. I've kicked sceli around several times. So has misanthrope. So has Kesu. If you want to see a interesting pattern we can look at yours which has been jumping on any cock that is pointed my or my wife's direction. If you want to continue to act like some teenage girl about your problems with us just go pout in a corner. Your passive aggressive nature is tedious, medusa, and it makes me sick that you are really this weak.

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  81. Medusa, it's because Shrek is thinking a woman can only frustrate him so much if she is a sociopath. I sure enjoyed frustrating his sorry ass. If I enjoyed repeating myself I'd want to do it over and over, but he is far too boring unless he manages to prove to me that I am a sociopath. That would be really something.

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  82. You are not a socio Sceli, are you kidding me? You must be drinking some good Kool Aid.

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  83. Medusa you spend as much time if not more on this blog, and you don't use a smart phone. You use your computer. I am making a lot of money and I have my career set up. You are the one who needs to get off their arse and do something with their life. You have said it yourself, yet you don't do it. You are so desperate you are repeating yourself from yesterday and yesterday you sounded desperate. How low can you sink medusa.

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  85. Hmm, I see you jumping on any vagina that dares to say a bad word about you.

    Like a 5 year old that can't handle criticism, and so lashes out at whatever is the easiest and closest target at the time.

    And you call me a teenager. And on the rag. Conveniently a misogynist suddenly, yes? After all, that's the easiest way to go after any female when you don't have anything else to stand on.

    Big brush strokes, eh? Maybe if you're lucky you'll get a hit.

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  86. You are not a socio Sceli, are you kidding me? You must be drinking some good Kool Aid.

    Yesterday she said she was a aspie uber-empath with socio qualities. Wow talk about confusion. She was the only one who didn't get beaten by her father. Typical setup for the special snowflake syndrome.

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  87. sweet, curious, what part of what I say comes to you as bullshit?

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  88. Thanks, David. I'll ignore his sorry ass, for a second I thought maybe there was another learning opportunity today.

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  89. Medusa weren't you just telling me that my quote from Sceli was wrong? Was that your beef? Or are you already moving on from that now that you looked like a complete fool?

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  90. Of course I use my computer, dumbass. I'm working while I post, although a good portion of the time my business takes care of itself.

    What a stupid argument. It's just more pathetic that you expend the extra effort typing your text blocks of shit on a phone.

    I own my own business. Do you? I'm my own boss. Are you? I answer to no one. How about you? There is no chance of my job ever landing me in prison. How about you?

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  91. Like a 5 year old that can't handle criticism

    Wouldn't that be the description for someone who was slighted almost a week ago and has attacked the person fruitlessly for a week, medusa? Here you are once again jumping into someone elses arguement and looking like a idiot. Hey yesterday I saw even Tik is behind you. Truth, Tik, and Ami have all changed their minds about you Medusa. Do you wonder why that is? Congratulations. You have now defected completely to the Sowing Circle. You are the hero of the victim brigade.

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  92. For instance, why would frustrating sociopaths make you feel good about yourself unless you had some deep seeded wound with one? If it was just to fight for fights sake, you wouldn't get an emotional pay off like that.

    It seems like you are overcoming fears or emotional scars here, thus making you not a sociopath.

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  93. That was to Sceli. When I fight, just to fight, I do it for fun and not gold star for myself.

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  94. Themes, I'm not getting the correlation with my song. Help a beaver out.

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  95. How was I slighted? I don't recall being slighted. Enlighten me.

    Funny you think I care who is or is not supporting me. It just tells me that it is important to you.

    And who exactly is behind you, besides your wife?

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  96. Running your own business is making music nobody listens to? Last I checked medusa that's called unemployed not self employed. Go get a job, then come back to me and tell me how to spend my time. I don't have roomates. I have my own place and it's nice. I earned it. Don't look at me like I made the fucked up decision.

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  97. Dumbshit, you know I have a business that is separate from music.

    'making music nobody listens to'

    Lol. You are a fool.

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  98. I don't want people behind me, medusa. That's why when you see someone like jason trying to suck my cock I start insulting them as well. I came here alone and attacked everybody that was here and everyone who came in. Nobody here can say I didn't fire shots at them. I don't need to piggy back arguements and look desperately for support from my enemies like you. That's weakness. If I think something about someone I come out and say it.

    Comparison:
    When my wife asked if you had a problem with her you denied it multiple times and then turned around and said you did have a problem when she cornered you. That is pretty pathetic. It disappointed me.

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  99. Now let's go back to your original arguement medusa, because isn't that your pretext today to start yet another fight from you being slighted a week ago? You were saying about, Socio O No not being Sceli...Please continue. Or was this just another made up arguement behind something else?

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  100. You have quite the imagination, UKan. You just make up shit and warp reality into what you want and I wonder if you even know you are doing it.

    Bullshit that almost sounds like it's true, and may fool some people who aren't paying close enough attention.

    But it's really not a good idea to try to fool someone smarter than you.

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  101. sweet, fighting to win is not a novice concept, along with winning giving people a high. applies to any fight, from sports to business to personal. Is that what you were referring to as bullshit?

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  102. Sceli if you're interested in beepers come play with me. I've got surplus info over by the swingset.

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  103. OK medusa. Are you going to back that statement or are you just throwing out stuff there in general?

    I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this. You came on here very sure I was concocting stuff about Sceli to discredit her. Right? Isn't that what we are talking about, because I don't want to get off the subject YOU brought up. If you are just going to scatter shot topics then go talk to yourself, because I don't move just because you are.

    Here's the quote:
    "(Sceli for you, socio o no for the records)"
    Here's the link:
    Sceli Debute

    Now either refute that or go out there and get fucked, because you need it.

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  104. Sceli the point is you need it here daily and then boast about it, openly. I think your boasts are bullshit in them self.

    You give your opinion here on every conversation you were not included in, drop your shit bombs, run off and then brag and poke again. Are you not desperately trying to prove to everyone how great you are? Then you ask if you are a socio LOL Apparently, you need some validation.

    You are not fighting for fun, you can say so but it is obvious that you are not.

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  105. Yes, you have proven your point. Sceli is 'socio or no'.

    That's not really what this is about. I'm more curious about your timing, effort expenditure and motivation.

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  106. Thank you, Haven. I will, too bad running really busy today.

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  107. Oh, now I get it, sweet. I act in a detached fashion, like in the song. And, that's bullshit to you? Meaning, I give myself the right to say what I want and when I want it is bullshit. So, detached learning is bullshit in your mind. Yet, I actually felt some learning from listening to you and the others, and was accordingly pleased. Thank you for the clarification.

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  108. "making music nobody listens to"

    Can you say emotionally shallow?

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  109. I need some new learning daily, and yes, SW provides me with some because people here are way outside the kinds of people who are in my professional circles, while being psychologically similar and without their masks. The learning I get from SW is priceless for my needs.

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  110. Medusa, those are hilarious statements coming from you.
    Why pull out scelli's info now... because she's being an arrogant bitch. That's why we pulled out her info then but as you may recall, she ended up just being an inconsequential narcissist.
    So why jump on the scelli defense? Even sweet remembers, and by the way, sweet, your completely right on. She came on at Halloween to "attack" people and dish out an offensive, and then she ran off, came back and conceded. She does the same thing at work when she gets panic attacks. And you're defending her why? She's more of a dumb bitch than I am.
    So why are we doing this Medusa? And you don't think its getting annoying yet that you have to disagree with everything we say to watch yourself be proven wrong? Where did all that intelligence go? Why don't you finally tell us what this whole passive aggressive game is really about, so we can stop this stupid bullocks cycle.

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  111. Sceli get ooff of your moral high ground. No ones buying it but Medusa, but this argument isn't about you any more than the rape argument is about not me, so don't flatter your pretty little head with defenses and statements. We won't bother reading them.

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  112. You keep dodging Sceli.

    What kind of detached person gives a retard a hug because he asked lets him lick off their plate.? You considered him and his feelings or needs. Or you needed a hug.

    I am just answering your question. You are not a sociopath. I think you don't know who you are and that is why you are here.

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  114. Sceli is no narcissist. Narcissists make an IMPACT

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  115. A narc would come here claiming they run the blog and devaluing everyone

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  116. Shrek and Fiona got their doggie doors open again, barf, barf, barf. I finally understood what really got them. It's that blood money they spend, the blood money that they brag about, the fact that I see them below David in the food chain. Well, truth is the truth, what can you say?

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  117. I'm not the only one here attacking Sceli, medusa, and this isn't my first time. If you want to talk about timing yours is a lot more suspicious. Especially since this is the fifth time you have picked an arguement that you have later said you never believed in in a matter of days. So now that you look like an idiot for being wrong yet again I want to know..How long will you continue this? My wife must have really got under your skin.

    wv:kalout

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  118. People here like to get worked up. The environment promotes an outlet for exercising that interest ::shrug:: I think regardless of what anyone says about liking or not liking one another, there's an aspect of appreciation for the dance being performed. Right or wrong, everyone gets a turn taking swings.

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  119. We attack idiots. That's what we do here, medusa. Nothing has changed here but the fact that you have now counted yourself among them.

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  120. Gasp, sceli, you see me how? Oh my gosh, I had no idea. Il have to reevaluate everything that I think about my life now because people who value laws like sceli see me as someone who takes blood money from dope fiends or users.
    Sceli, have you ever done drugs? Do you know someone who has? What's the difference between them giving us money from their children's college fund, and us taking it to establish our family?

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  121. sweet, oh, you are something else. I made a promise to myself never to attack a beeper again. I know beepers are capable of insults, that's ok.

    And, Haven, you said I could ask you for info. WHy do you think sweet is reacting this way?

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  122. I think for the most part swings are healthier here because they're removed, but still accurate. The anonymity aspect makes new aspects of the truth here valuable.

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  123. Watch Scarface to see blood in your hands.

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  124. welcome bback David.
    Themes learned to hyper link. I can't copy and paste on my tablet.

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  125. beeper - i'll only attack if provoked.

    socio - i'll attack you first when your back is turned.

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  126. Don't poo poo my ass Sceli. You are obviously looking for answers and I am giving my opinion.

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  127. sweet, i enjoy seeing the newly-found strength in you. keep coming.

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  128. I'm not the only one here attacking Sceli, medusa

    Ah, so you do care about having support behind you. And the 'inconsequential' and 'weak' Sweetcheeks at that, according to you.

    Sceli has always been arrogant and confused. You are only going after her now for a barely related reason.

    My wife must have really got under your skin.

    Yeah? Is that why you guys keep fighting me back and responding?

    When do you guys get time for sex?

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  129. ::shrug:: I'm not sure why Sweets is reacting this way. I thought you guys got on alright. Maybe she thinks it'll win approval from the socio crowd that praises outing everyone they look down on. Maybe she doesn't want to be today's target. Maybe she's bored.

    Frankly I don't know Sweets that well so I couldn't tell you for sure. Your best bet is to ask her and hope she gives you an honest answer.

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  130. Lol!
    You think scar face is a good example of blood money drug dealers?
    He did absolutely everything wrong, and is a reflection of the culture within the Mexican gangs, and what they believe fundamentally. The entire movie is about fast money, and dying for being an idiot. Tell me what he did right? That must be a convenient subject for you though, as he acts in that movie as a reflection of evil, and everyone knows evil always parishes.
    Tell me what tthe Mexican gangs are doing right, right now? Abolishing the police, though they were corrupt, killing citizens, taking over cities, not giving to their people? They're on an equally fast life that will inevitably lead to destruction. Have you been reading about Los zetas, sceli? That's another fun topic for me. Why don't we talk about evil as being a vvanquish able force?
    Right after Medusa tells us why she started this whole thing.

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  131. I agree Missus. When you live in a world where expressing your rage and aggression is frowned upon finding an outlet where it's allowed is actually pretty healthy. This place is good.

    @Anon...
    "beeper - i'll only attack if provoked.

    socio - i'll attack you first when your back is turned."

    ::Laughs:: Don't run into on a bad day.

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  132. Shrek and Fiona got their doggie doors open again, barf, barf, barf. I finally understood what really got them. It's that blood money they spend, the blood money that they brag about, the fact that I see them below David in the food chain. Well, truth is the truth, what can you say?



    The more blood my money has on it the better I feel spending it.

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  133. Don't worry Med, em battling you turns us on. Maybe our relationship really is healthy? This is fun for us. Remember the narcissist girl we had fun calling out on her bullocks that night? I play the brutal honest role, my husband plays the lie detector. Generally he was more amused. I was more annoyed by her, as I am by sceli. But its fun for us to interact together.
    So Med, where do this whole thing start?

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  134. @haven


    socios don't only target people they look down upon. a socio usually targets people they have no quarrels with, just to push their buttons. when you lack empathy you can do as you please!

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  135. Sceli

    I don't mind you, really. In fact you make me laugh with your stabs.

    I will say that I think your delusions get to your head at times and today, it just seemed obvious. It's not personal.

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  136. the more "nice" a person is the more chance they have of being targeted. sociopaths equate kindness to weakness.

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  137. Sceli has always been arrogant and confused. You are only going after her now for a barely related reason.

    Yet here you are defending her. On something you were wrong about. On someone you have just stated is a idiot. You are so desperate medusa. Look at yourself.



    When do you guys get time for sex?


    Yesterday. When was the last time you had sex?

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  138. sweet, why are you acting like this, do you know?

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  139. Quit pretending I haven't answered that question directly already several times. You seem to be the only one who doesn't know.

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  140. Anon, I believe you. My point was along the line of 'beepers only attacking when provoked' = not true. We don't attack the way socios do but if we're in a mood there doens't need to be provocation.

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  141. sweet, your explanation at 11:26 mentions only me. what about you is making you act like this, that is my question. the reason I am curious is maybe there is some applicability to beepers in general, which is of interest to me. like you said, nothing personal.

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  142. Sceli, you're going to get off on attacking sweet? You're putting her down to try to distract from the fact that she is spot on about you. I remember it well, don't you?
    "Jeepers im feeling feisty, il throw myself to the mercy of the wolves. What do you think of me kanney? What, you think I'm a narcissist bitch? Oh, well, special for you. Just because i was too smart to get beaten and I'm too special to listen to you doesn't mean I'm a narcissist. Well, I'm off. When i come back tomorrow we'll be the best of friends and il concede all the insults I'd saved up against you"

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  143. Medusa, why are you trying to argue with a sociopath? A socio can't admit they are wrong.

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  144. Really, Medusa, I remember several answers. None of which being directly applicable. So lets try it again, shall we?

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  145. "We don't attack the way socios do"

    Really? How is it different?

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  146. Sceli

    Because I felt like it. Your statements scream "come and get me!"

    I thought that is what you go for?

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  147. Don't worry Med, em battling you turns us on.

    Lol, what, are you two staring at your Apple products, masturbating with one hand, typing with the other? Or diddling each other whilst staring at your respective screens?

    Must be even harder than I thought to type out a sentence. Sounds like a good time. Sexy.

    Any idiot can see I'm not defending Sceli. I'm questioning your motivations. This is about you, not her.

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  148. Quit pretending I haven't answered that question directly already several times. You seem to be the only one who doesn't know.

    Well you keep carrying the pretense that these little exchanges are about Sceli or Soulful, or rape so why not act confused Medusa? You have this vague bollocks reason "She's overbearing" just like with the luke thing you said it was because "He's annoying me." In reality on the luke thing it was because you thought I took your credit. Now with this Kanny thing it's because she asked about you touchy little past. Touchy, indeed. I've never seen you like this. She got you WAY out of character to the point where you sound like the other victims on here so much that they now relate to you. So let's play along. Let's pretend like all of that isn't true, medusa, just for you. We will pretend that all of your petty arguements you are starting are because you actually believe in them. Where does that leave you: Looking like a complete fool.

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  149. Yeah, I know. I told scelli. She did the same thing today she did when she started this on Halloween, and it brought about the same response. So where did this start, Medusa? Any idiot can see you're only disagreeing with everything I say on principal, so what is this whole thing really about?

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  150. y dos people argue with the personality disordered

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  151. Lol. Personality disordered are people too! Didn't you read the post?

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  152. so the more the blood the merrier the duo. I was just curious if they perceived their hands clean of blood.

    I walk the talk. I am no more attacking any beepers. I don't see them possibly saying something like 'the more the blood better.'

    Correct me if wrong, voluntary beeper declarations include:

    with no children: Haven and Notme
    with children: Eden, and Sweet.

    Is Soulful a beeper?

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  153. it could be argued that psychopathy and npd aren't disorders of character, but rather, an evolutionary advantage.

    of course borderline and histrionic is a disorder. these people are genuinely suffering.

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  155. If you perceive your hands as free of blood, you don't know enough about your existence.

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  156. Anon the motivations behind an attack are generally different. Socios are generally more self-aware in their manipulation and attack. They'll approach it like a game and with purpose (correct me if I'm wrong).

    Borderlines are manipulative by nature but not necessarily intentionally. We may lash out and explode, but it's not usually a planned event after we've targeted someone.

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  157. People who suffer from drug addiction deserve to get every last drop of life sucked out of them so that I can provide for people more valuable to society like my family.

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  158. David is still raging against the machine ROFLMAO what a narc.

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  159. :) sweet, got it. you just felt like it, but unable to explain what exactly made you feel like it. you thought my statements screamed 'come and get me.' did my statements remind you of someone else's?

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  160. People who suffer from drug addiction have innocent children that basically you are fucking with.

    Drug dealer=pedophile

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  161. Sceli is good, sociopaths are bad.
    Life really is that simple. How nice.

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  162. Have you taken my tone as angry david? This is all a joke for me. I come here to get my chuckles and you are one of my biggest laughs.

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  163. "People who suffer from drug addiction have innocent children that basically you are fucking with.

    Drug dealer=pedophile"

    So? Most likely they will grow up to be fuckwits like their parents.

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  164. Medusa, I'm still anxious to hear your take on my overbearing. Are you composing it? So its an eloquent assault? You've already jumped on scelis bandwagon, so I know it isn't about waiting for an argument to start. Can you just come out with it yet?
    WV presse

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  165. People who suffer from drug addiction have innocent children that basically you are fucking with.

    Drug dealer=pedophile

    So what, fuck their children too. If I had to rape kids to live the lifestyle I do now I would move right next door to a elementary school.

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  166. I really don't get how people can get all up in arms over children? What makes them so sacred?

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  167. Sceli

    You are fucking delusional. This is what I hear, "I like pissing off socios because it feels good, I like animals, I let retards and old men touch me cuz I am nice...Wait I must be sociopath!" Lets not forget, "I promised myself not to attack beepers"

    Tell me Sceli, can you not see the obvious?

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  168. Their parents are fucking with their children. And you sympathize with them? Blame society for the systems failures. Don't blame the drug dealer. Who makes all things possible in the situation?
    You haven't been disillusioned yet sceli?

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  169. "So what, fuck their children too. If I had to rape kids to live the lifestyle I do now I would move right next door to a elementary school."

    Hahaha. Like it.

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  170. NOT THE CHILDRANNNNNNNNN DEAR GODD NOT TEH CHILDRANNNNNNNNN

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  171. "I would move right next door to a elementary school."

    "Elementary school", you are american.

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  172. Lol. Nice sweet. I'd even forgotten about that idiot touching mmen bullocks. Oh and Med, we attacked her then, too, if you recall. For trying to say she was strong by allowing men to poke her breast on multiple occasions.

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  173. People like to bring up children as a cheap tactic to illicit sympathy. If we wanted to do the world a favor we would shoot their children in the face, because you know that addicts child is going to be a pox on society later.

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  174. Theme Songs for SW RegularsNovember 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    @Sceli I thought a long time before I put yours up because I knew it would bite. I could have put "Uptown Girl" by Billy Joel, which I was going to do. However, I thought that I would rather give you insight than stroke your ego because that is what I would prefer, for myself.

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  175. Medusa, I'm still anxious to hear your take on my overbearing.

    Ah yes, she waits with baited breath. And I do mean 'baited'.

    Keep at it. The more text, the better. You are saving me a lot of time and effort.

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  176. Medusa, do you think I don't see you evading this question, or are you convincing yourself that you aren't evading this question? I'm wondering what your game is.

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  177. Pedophiles Are AwesomeNovember 28, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    Haha. She thought your tone would change when she mentioned children, UKan.

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  178. Lol. Medusa, you're going to do this I don't have to tell you what's wrong white, for a few hours, I'm going to say something to someone else you're going to argue with for absolutely no reason, I'm going to ask why this all started, and the cycle will continue. Could we just get this out of the way mow, for everyone's sake? Can you just answer the question, so we can get to the core of what's bugging you and move on? This passive white is so annoying, I imagine that's your only goal. But il be patient, assuredly...
    so where did this whole thing start?

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  179. He said it right after david said ireland. He's trying to throw us off. I have your IP address, Ukan.

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  180. Look through yesterdays post. I answered you several times. Directly. But keep going. Keep asking.

    Yes, I know you are wondering what my game is. That is good.

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  181. Medusa, are we at the Spelling Bee again?

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  182. Themes for SW RegularsNovember 28, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    Anonymous Piles the Beaver said...

    Themes, I'm not getting the correlation with my song. Help a beaver out.


    Piles, this song is about the dark and the light; the good and the bad; the angel and the devil; real life, if you will. You seem as if you understand life, and people, at the most core level.

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  183. It's called a pun, UKan. A double layered one at that. I'm not surprised you didn't pick up on it.

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  184. Who cares why. She is just making herself look like a fool. Let her continue. She can jump from one sinking ship to the next.

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