Wednesday, November 23, 2011

Fratricide

From the questionable Tilda Swinton, currently starring as the mother of a sociopath in the film We Need To Talk About Kevin, from The Guardian:
"Years ago, when James Bulger was murdered, every newspaper front page was talking about evil. At that point, having suppressed it for years, I remembered when I was four or five, I tried to kill my own brother. He was newly born and I was disappointed, because he was the third boy. That was enough as far as I was concerned.

I went into his room to kill him, saw some ribbons from a bonnet going into his mouth, and began to pull them out. And I was discovered saving his life. So I had this strange reputation - my brother's savior - and no one knew I wanted to kill him. It took the Bulger case for me to remember that I'd seriously wanted to."

"Whenever there are children killing children, or perpetrating great acts of violence, there's always this word 'evil' pulled out of the top drawer. Not even the bottom drawer. It's a very quick response. And I'm always struck by it, because from the age of four and a half I have known that it ain't in no drawer. It's at closer hand. Isn't that the triumph of civilisation? That we manage not to be monstrous?"

"Does one ever feel it," she says, "or is one simply monstrous? I mean, I've been monstrous, I think."
The rest of the article is interesting as well.

550 comments:

  1. Sibling rivalry is normal. I tormented my little brother till he lost it and grabbed a knife and tried to stab me with it. He chased me down the hall to my parent's room and I got the shotgun out from under my fathers bed. My mum came in and was apalled. Fortunatly she told my father it was the bb gun. I don't know if she lessened the charges on purpose or didn't know I grabbed the shotgun.

    My older brother kicked me in the face when we were fighting over the rules of a game we made up in so I grabbed a hefty log and cracked him over the head. I started going to work on him and my father came out. He ban us from playing the game and beat the shite out of us.

    My older brother snitched on me and got me my first felony for arson. I got out of lockup the next day waiting juvienielle court and they sent me to school with my brother. When we were walking home with a mutual friend I told our friend that my brother was a snitch. We were in this wilderness shortcut we take. He went behind this reed looking stuff to get away from us so we grabbed stones and threw them into the reeds. I hear him scream loud, and I threw some more. He came running out with blood all over his face and we stopped. He walked twenty minutes down the street to my mums work with blood all over his face being dramatic. These cars kept pulling over asking if he was ok and he would say yah my brother just hit me in the head with a rock, but Im ok. He loved the attention that fucking snitch.

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  2. And you are calling that stuff normal?

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  3. I wouldn't call it normal, but he comes from a violent place, obviously. His brothers are funny. They're crazy and deluded.

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  4. Do you have brothers Medusa?

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  5. i was never the bad kid i was abused and bullied and thats why i developed this attention deformity like ukan says i was the victim

    my father was an abusive alcoholic sailor very violent he once chased me with an axe and now that ya mention it he abused me sexually as well yes i remember now i was 2 at the time and still remember vividly every detail ya want to hear the graphic details ya sick fucks?

    whenever i got in trouble in school i wuld tell the teachers this story and cry and they wuld understand and say dont cry richard everything will be all right

    i am not to blame for anything i am the victim i have the attention deformity

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  6. Two of them. Both older, both smart, but both crazy.

    I've dealt with my share of sibling insanity. I'm not sure how much of it was normal or not.

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  7. See that's what I'm saying. Growing up as a man is for the most part pretty violent. Its been that way for centuries.

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  8. Perhaps, but not gun-to-the-head violent. That's what I'm saying... is that it's probably not normal.

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  9. But I dunno. It can be pretty violent growing up as a female as well.

    Do you have any sisters?

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  10. I have been thinking about this for a while. I base it on a few BPD woman I and one sociopath woman, I know. I have gotten to know them , very deeply. They all think they are evil. It is a stance they have. It is a deep belief, not amenable to reasoning. I don't try because I hate when people give me platitudes for my pain.

    I have been thinking that THIS belief, and perhaps, this belief alone, is responsible FOR their "disorder". This belief may be the etiology of it, the causative factor for it.

    Please don't dismiss this, outright, as stupid. "Normal' people do not think they are evil. They do not frame themselves in this light. They think they are human with good and bad. Yes, they have an evil part. However, they FRAME it as part of the human condition, NOT a specific and intransigent trait of themselves.

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  11. Eat a dick, Ami. It'll probably settle your sensitive tummy.

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  12. TNP Is that a folk medicine for stomach ailments?

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  14. @Medusa
    I got to know the woman, more intimately, emotionally, because there was no romance or attraction and the various masks and games which can accompany that. Hence, I could see the woman, more clearly.

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  15. its not wise to get the sosiopathic label from the shrinks because then ya have to do the time- no paroles

    much better to get a label for attention deformity or other mental illness ya get it easier if ya can make them believe ya retarded when ya did it- but as the case proceeds ya already feeling better it was just a temporary insanity ya all right now the stress went away ya feeling much better now- wont do it ever again, feel sorry for the victim

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  17. David, go in with a stocking over your head.

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  18. david i dont know if shrinks do that ive never heard anyone getting the label if they werent convicts theres of course a lot of online self tests in the internet but they are all bullshit

    but even if possible what good wuld the label do theres no cure for it only bad things will happen if people think ya bad by nature they dont feel sorry for ya anymore

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  19. At this point, I think you know too much about sociopathy to get a reliable diagnosis, even from a professional.

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  21. they will obviously have to let people know, if they diagnose you a sociopath. it's not like diagnosing bipolar or bpd.

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  22. Just finished reading what went on yesterday after my last post. Several things impressed me:
    1. Haven's attitude of this was a debate and fun. This style of debate is not my idea of fun, but learning that I could look at it as fun is a significant learning. When things get repetitive I get bored. Children and low IQ love repetitive, you can tell the intelligence level here by who just keeps repeating himself and herself.
    2. Post made a remark:
    'Anyone who interprets an event in any contextual frame but their own is either full of themselves, an idiot, or some kind of bleeding heart empath.'
    I am that third, bleeding heart empath who is steadily realizing (thanks to SW) that half the people think I am full of myself and some even think I am idiot, and amazingly those who tell me I am full of myself are the narcs, and those who tell me I am dumb are quite dumb. People project right and left. I have decided to go with it, meaning yeah let them believe I am full of myself and let them believe I am dumb, but focus on identifying who they are and move accordingly. Learn to focus in my own frame and context as Post suggests.

    3. Notme is an empath, so the whole discussion used her name and she took it personal, as I would. Then MaryK turns around and says we were not talking about you. And, that is a great learning for an empath. Not to take anything personally from not only socios but anyone, but learn to laugh and brush it off, one-up them if you can, keep smiling and having fun.

    4. Like I said before as women we are actually very ready to laugh at ourselves, and
    Sure enough
    Post made me laugh
    And I particularly appreciated ~ at the end of his joke below:
    "This is why more than three women aren't allowed to occupy the same room unless it's a kitchen.~

    November 22, 2011 11:51 PM'

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  23. I used to wish that I had an older brother, not anymore after reading UKan's 'normal' past.

    I realize now that the majority of the guys' aggressiveness was there, but I was completely sheltered from all that based on competence--from my younger siblings, dad's aggression, people at school and work.

    I was never bullied or I never perceived it. Had a reunion with my high school buddies recently and heard stories of how they bullied each other. When I asked how come I was never bullied, or even aware that there was any bullying in the class they said you were always on our side (referring to the fact that I used to quickly finish the tests and then start passing papers around for those who needed help).

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  24. David, why do you want to get diagnosed? Do you sense that iy may result in any sort of behavioral change in you?

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  25. The Bulger killers are psychopaths. They had a history of bullying and destructive behaviors. One of the killers was recently recalled to prison for possessing child pornography.

    He was given a new identity after release. He revealed his true identity to a friend, at a bar. The friend thought he just wanted to "get it off his chest" but it was blatantly obvious, that it was a boast.

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  26. Rosemary's baby? Lol.

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  27. They stuck batteries up the kids ass. The one they slaughtered.

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  28. Evil is a culture thingy. If people think they're evil, or think others are evil, it has to do with cultural standards and their religious origin. There is no such thing as an objective evil. It's in your head, so to speak.

    I was thinking about watching this movie a week or so back, but never got around to it because I was too busy. Maybe I'll watch it after all.


    David Socio:

    Has anyone ever been diagnosed for sociopathy voluntarily? I'm looking into it (if possible anonymously)

    Well, yes I got an assessment voluntarily, but that was only after having been assessed twice in-voluntarily. I did it to see if I could get the old psychopathy diagnoses recanted which I got twice over the years in prison. It would've made certain things easier for me business wise. But it didn't work. I was diagnosed with psychopathy again. So now I have three psychopathy diagnoses.

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  29. shut up zwag, pathetic loser

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  30. shut up, pathetic 'Nano', or tell us who you are instead of hiding behind anonymous posting. Everybody knows only losers flame anonymously.

    We found one of your unintelligent ones, Sceli! ;)

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  31. everyone knows that only losers pretend to be psychopaths, when in fact they're big fat rape victims lol

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  32. haha. One for Zhawq. hehe

    "everyone knows that only losers pretend to be psychopaths, when in fact they're big fat rape victims lol"

    Man if you can't tell who are sociopaths or not you're the biggest loser kiddo. I've done time too and it's not that hard once you been there.

    It's not if Zhawq's a socio or not, it's about something else between him and some others.

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  33. shut up faggot, you've never done time either lol

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  35. You're a fucking retard anon. Yeah, that word really fits you. Retard, retard, retard.

    And yeah, that was me before. Forgot to add my name.

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  36. DavidSocio01

    you do what you gotta do, but I'm not advicing you to go get a sociopath diagnosis. Almost everybody who got it got it because we went to prison and didn't have a choice. But good luck man.

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  37. @David

    Knowing what you are is important

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  38. ":)"

    Hey anon you smiling at me? :)

    hehe, it's a good day to be alive. ;)

    :o, i think he's teasing him for not spelling his name. Zhawq is a very sarcastic guy and even when not all understands him he doesn't care. I like that.

    Ps. Could be wrong. maybe he spelled wrong too. :D

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  39. who the fuck calls someone a nano as an insult. LMAO

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  40. buddy don't say you're a retard too. It's IRONY not insult. And I don't even know if I'm right. But after seeing how dumb half of the posters on this blog are I doubt he'll waste insults on them.

    Never mind if you don't get it. I don't care man.

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  41. @Harv yes that was to you

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  42. Hi Hank. Are you new around here? Hi Gary.
    Fuck you Harv.








    wv: harv

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  43. i felt up my step sister

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  44. i call her tits on a stick

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  45. . Welcome, Hank. Do you want to join our men's support group? It was Frank, Harv and myself until Harv was rude to Frank, so now I don't know.

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  46. I wish I knew what I was (sigh) too paranoid to get tested. I think I have BPD but its confusing.

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  47. David, why are you interested in what the diagnosis would be? There is a reason there. Do you know what that is and you are choosing not to tell here, or you have no idea what the root cause of your wish is and this is just a little impulsive game for you?

    Also,
    are you planning on throwing them off or
    are you planning on total honesty as the questions start piling, or
    you know you can start gaming if things don't feel right at some point?

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  48. Sceli you crack me up with your inquisitive nature.

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  49. Gary and Frank, hi there guys. I won't call myself new exactly. Been lurking for a couple of months. Here and on PW.

    Men's support group? lmao. I think I'm gonna pass if you don't mind. hehe.

    Hey why don't they have something like that on lovefraud and those kinda websites? They're all women. Maybe the men are all lurking. lol

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  51. Hey on second thought maybe we can make some money. Yea why not? Make a support group for the men who's been vitumized by us evil bastards. :D

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  52. @Hank, Welcome to our group. We were going to be Hillside Stranglers, but that fell through.

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  53. DavidSocio, you can't really do it without them having your identity as they're gonna check on your past. LIke fx you gotta have had CD when you were a kid and they'll interview your family and stuff.

    That's if you want it to be real genuine. Otherwise I heard there are some who do the Screening Version and just take it by your word as they know you'll obviously wanna know the truth and therefore not be lying.

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  54. u wanna pet, Hank

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  55. Frank,

    dude, we'll make up something better than that, much more infamous. Are we taking Harv along? alright with me so long as he's polite. Victums excepted of course.

    Who's up with some ideas? :D

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  56. Ferral, I grew out of petting when I hit 12. lol Unless you're thinking about the female kind of course. That's different.

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  57. @Hank, Harv told Frank to fuck hisself. Frank will not take abuse, you know?








    wv:harv

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  59. Frank, nothing wrong, with fucking urself. its fun :) how is, that a insult?

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  60. David, just curious is equivalent of not knowing the deep down reason, particularly because it sounds like a major undertaking with potentially destructive consequences. But, I am curious so will definitely be all ears if and when you do this.

    Hank... :) Growing out of petting... Well, that happens, you get busy, and then either you form a family and kids want it, or you are single and in need of love and you go back to it.

    Pets are great in filling that void when we need love (should say attention to make it more realistic), and are somehow unable to feel loved on our own or failing to keep ourselves entertained. But then comes a time again that need is just gone leaving petting become one of indoor or outdoor shit collection for cats and dogs, respectively. Like children, eventually it's best to love someone else's. Also like children, pets are responsible holding some lousy marriages together, particularly when each spouse can't get their needs completely taken care of from the other. If no children, show me a married couple with animals and I'll show you a very boring household otherwise.

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  62. dont admit too thinkin about hurting urself or others------put u away

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  63. I'm with UKan on this one. I wasn't that brutal with my brother (we didn't have guns in the house), but he definitely ended up with cuts and bruises fairly often. I was more intent on psychological torture. Except for a brief spate of rebellion in his early teens, he actually seems to get more obedient to me as he ages. My favorite was the old "I'm doing this for your own good" while I tore his brain apart about some stupid thing he was upset about. At first he'd resist, and by the time I was done he'd thank me for helping him. That's a high I've never gotten sick of, so that's how I deal with my friend's problems, too.

    I'm such a nice guy, though.~

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  64. can we kiss and make up now

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  65. I can answer Medusa's question regarding whether sisters have to endure violence as siblings.

    Short answer, yes. My sis and I had our fair share of violent moments. Interestingly, it was me and my brothers who were most violent to each other. The gloves were off for me and my brothers even if I was their little sister. I remember stabbing my brother with a fork when he tried to mock me and wouldn't relent. Second time I stabbed him with a pen. My second oldest brother chased my sister with a knife through the house. He hit me with a baseball bat and a drum stool. I cained him with a bamboo cain and such. There was always conflcits growing up. We're all grown up now and there's been little violence in a long time. But recently, out the blue, whilst having a debate with my brother he decided he wasn't do well in the debate so he got up and stood inches from my face, standing over me. I showed no hint of fear and didn't back down as I felt it was important to keep my front.

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  68. its my sickness, luv

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  69. Post, are you sure yours was not tough love?

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  70. What's the qualitative difference between tough love and molding people because it's fun?

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  71. David

    You are fortunate to not have any siblings I suppose. My sister and I were brutal with each other and still are when we see each other. I am happy to have one child, I couldn't deal with the fighting.

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  72. my brother kicked the shit outta me once, basically took out his full wrath on me. I never forgot that and years later, he apologised for it after he'd forgotten what he ever did. Lol, I kicked him in the head once when he was driving cos he wouldn't turn the radio down. Luckily, both my bros found that funny more than anything.

    Apart from that, I've thrown a hairbrush at my other bro cos he's a typical provocative asshole, made me cry many times. We're ok now. I learnt to speak up for myself being the youngest. I'm pretty bossy. Lol.

    I've truly painted one of my siblings black, for a long time, I hated him. Ironically, we have a special bond, 98% fun and harmony, and 2% pure conflict, since we are opposites who meet in the middle somewhere.
    It's more important to get on with your siblings than your parents, siblings will be there for longer in your life.

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  73. Besides the incident with the shotgun everyone seems to have the same stories as I do. I'm telling you that sibling rivalry is a normal thing. It's part of growing up.

    By the way medusa, I had no sisters just brothers.

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  74. Sibling rivalry is a normal thing. My brother and I fought all the time. We were home alone a lot too, so we got at each other a ton. But we were just young, and when he got frustrated by me, his first reaction would be violence. He socked me in the face once. He pushed me under water in a pool by my throat once. But for the most part we just bickered until we got old enough to avoid each other altogether. Now we get along great. We just don't understand each other.

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  75. Dave, I don't see you succeeding at all with this lil' endeavor or yours. You more than likely will end up lying in your quest to be honest because you will put far too much thought in your actions and make up situations accordingly to fit the box of sociopathy. This is a practice in futility my friend. This only translates to feeding your narcissism, and having an excuse for failing as a person. If you do succeed, I'll suck your dick, free of charge.

    I think I am alone in this category. I never had any beef with my siblings. I fucked up my cousins though, good times.

    Post, I don't see a difference at all.

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  76. Zhawq, really? You're your own entourage?

    You have a zhawq penant you pull out in case someone insults you... even someone anonymous insults you? That's cute. Its endearing how much you fail.

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  77. Piles, spot on about David. I was going to say the same thing.
    You want to be a sociopath too badly to benefit at all from a test. Your just aspiring for the label. But I also think a therapist would see straight through you... and also that the images would effect you. So maybe the proof in the other direction would be the validation you actually need, and not want.

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  78. I have one sister and I had two brothers but one of them died when I was little. I used to compete with my older brother in everything. We had punch ups all the time and we used to dare eachother to do crazy things like running across busy roads, robbing places, starting fights and generally just causing havoc. Neither of us would back down because we'd never let eachother forget it. I used to fuck with his head alot as well. The best thing was when I took our friends phone and sent a text message from it as if it was meant for my brothers girlfriend saying that he wanted to see her again that night. My brother got it and thought that the friend had fucked up by sending the message to him and was screwing his girl, so he beat the shit out of the guy and ended up getting put on probation. When he found out what I did he beat me down and broke my nose. A few days after I got him in the ribs with this big flashlight we had at home when he was getting out of the shower, and on and on it went until I left home.

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  79. My two brothers are two years apart, they run a business together, and as far as siblings go, they get on pretty well. I think that's admirable. My older brother is a champ, a real hard worker and feels responsible for the rest of us. He does piss me off when he gets all fatherly and authoritarian though. I'm perenially the naughty young one who's always doing something wrong. Kind of annoying. The only way to deal with being consistently patronised is to embrace the role, I find. LOL.

    oh look! Another flipping cooking programme on British Tv. What a fucking surprise. Haven, you'd love it here! :D

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  80. lol Misanthrope, your mum must have just loved watching all that.

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  82. I didn't like my sister I either. She always used to tell on me and my brother when we were causing trouble which resulted in us getting beaten or punished in some other form. I set her rabbits on fire after she told my dad that I'd smashed up this wrecked car on our street. The funny thing is that I didn't even do that one. I also tried to drown her in the bathtub when I was 11 o 12 but my mum pulled me away from her and I slapped her about a few other times for a few other reasons. At one point I just started refering to her as "cunt" when out of earshot of my father. I think sibling rivalry is normal, it just that how extreme it gets depends on the type of children you're dealing with and their environment.

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  84. You want to be diagnosed as a sociopath because it's your last hope of not feeling pathetic, Dave.

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  87. "I guess so, what I read so far was just a collection of boring white trailer trash stories ..."

    I love reading them LOL.

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  88. Sibling rivalry is healthy and normal, and it gets extreme if you're from a violent environment, or a manipulative one. That becomes your gyroscope so you act and react accordingly. Mis, it sounds like you have a violent household, and that your mum is codependent.

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  89. We must all be trailer trash because we weren't raped into prostitution by our jailbird fathers. I see how this game works.~ If it makes you feel better to pretend to know French and the ins and outs of wine, keep it up. We don't all need to construct elaborate fantasies to rescue ourselves from obscurity.

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  90. Lol.
    Spot on.
    At least our trailer trash tales are in our past, and not our present.

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  91. Did you forget that you're trailer trash for a living, David? Your parents may have tried to raise you with some class, but they failed, and merely managed to instill the idea of superiority. Alas, you've let them down by your tackiness. And the only one fooled is you, but you don't even believe your own lies.

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  93. Those are great! Who's the artist? I love the style. So acid trip meets demon subconcious.
    my favorite is the anons.

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  94. No, David, your pretentiousness qualifies as pretentious. Like me, for example. People would say I'm stuck up, not because I speak bad french, but because I'm stuck up. You might as well roll with it. I think it would've helped you in the long run if you started early.

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  95. Artist is Killian Eng.

    David, your use of 95% shows your statistical skills are just as laughable as your skills as a whore.

    How many languages do you think I speak, David? I think your claim to speak "a couple of languages" is a farce. Attentive viewers of the Muppet Show know bon appétit and bonne nuit. I am unimpressed.

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  97. "and that your mum is codependent."

    Not so much co-dependant as useless and constantly zoned out on barbiturates.

    "how did your brother die?"

    Drank himself to death.

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  98. Lol. I learned bonne unit and comment allez vous from Muzzy!
    Nuit my spelling corrects it, and it's hard to go back on my tablet.
    And thanks post.

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  100. Reminds me of many a 70's book cover. I have a few from Harlan Ellison sitting on my shelf.

    This month has been great. I haven't been this calm in a very long time. I have this nagging feeling one day I'll wake up and it will fade, but it hasn't.

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  101. Not even an artful retort, David. It's a wonder you aren't dead in the streets with wit that wanting.

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  102. The animative style is really awesome! I go to school with a few animators with a similar style. I really love seeing art translate into people. I like the one above the monkey for the anonymi. He's more blank, and has no identifying characteristics... and I LOVE how he's melting into the background.

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  103. haha. Classy David, you're a right princely lord with that mouth.

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  105. we luv you, too mk

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  106. Well at least david learned what currency they use in europe, because before he kept using currency from the states (the dollar) and schools from the states (Highschool). If you ask me everything about his bourgeois european playboy persona is utter bollocks. He's a american whore from new york that's washed up at 33 years old because nobody wants to fuck some old man for cash. You are fake dave: Wrong currency, wrong school, wrong dialect, and wrong disorder. You are not some sophisticated european con artist extrordinaire. You are a simple homosexual prostitute from New York City that gets fondled by elderly men for a living. I can't believe you actually tried to say you lectured on transhumanism in belgium. Are you fucking joking ha ha ha ha. You cut and pasted someone's article onto here, because you were 'too lazy' when eden asked you to lecture us in your supposed language to prove you knew what you were talking about. You are more fake than michael jackson's nose.

    By the way according to you you think you are high functioning whatever the fuck that means. Last time I checked someone who functions highly isn't a failed prostitute who washes down pills with cheap vodka do get to sleep at night. That's just called a failure.

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  107. I personally think David isn't mentally ill in any disordered capacity.

    He's just another grown brat with an unremarkable life, so he's trying to invent one.

    What kind of man has never been in a fight, brags about being a snitch, and wants to be aiagnosed as a dangerous mind?

    No man at all. He's nothing.

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  108. How convenient. Your linguistic barriers, alas.

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  109. Part ONE: No one gives a fuck about french, or dutch David, or speaking in a different language. There ain't no job offerings here, so there is no need to show off speaking different language skills.

    And this is a challenge. The challenge is you getting the label you want while staying honest, and fooling them into you being one. They aren't stupid, they play the same mind games.

    If I truly wanted to suck your dick I would fuck you up and do as I please with that little thing. Then I'd take your money, if you had any.

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  110. Part TWO: Don't start ranting assuming people here haven't had life experiences with the "info" you disclose here. I happen to speak a few languages as well, and as for your details about what personality tests do, I have taken many. These "mechanisms" you speak of are YOUR ANSWERS, not a special machine. You are already fucking up because you think you have all of the info. These tests score depending on your over thinking as well. If you over think it is considered a lie, a lie is a lie, hesitation is a lie. The best way to take these tests is to be forced to take them where you haven't put any thought into it, which is why you knowing too much makes these tests you will take biased.

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  111. Are you going to give him a knife job too Piles?

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  113. Я бы не пачкал мой язык.

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  114. David why don't you just come out to yourself?

    Are you WV: wilingti?

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  115. What's your problem with being from NY?

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  117. Because you're not. No European mistakes their currency and school. I had to look up what American schools are called one time to throw someone off here so I know its not common knowledge let alone something you would mistake. Your whole goal from the beginning here has been to prove to us your persona which is bollocks.

    I went to Tahiti for my honeymoon. I have to tell you when I came back I didn't mistake how much I make a year in francs. Just like if you were from Belgium like you claim you wouldn't mistake how much you make a year in u.s. dollars just because you visited America a few times. Nobody here is stupid.

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  118. He probably thinks being older makes him refined, too. He might be a youngster.

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  119. just show your ID again, david.

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  120. How old is Tyler, UKan?

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  121. He probably thinks being older makes him refined, too. He might be a youngster.

    I don't think so. His mid life crisis and search for excuses to blame his life decisions on a disorder means he is around the age he specified. Especially being a prostitute because around the age of 30 you will start to lose the appeal you once had. Prostitutes age quick.

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  123. How is that proof. We all have Google images.

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  126. Anon, I'd knife job anyone here as I like knife "play". I'm sure a few would fuck me up in the process, but it'd be fun nonetheless.

    Post, wtfuck does that say? I don't know any russian.

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  127. stfu ukan, you've spelt "colour" as "color" before, and "mum" as "mom". you must be american! lol

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  128. Aw, David, are we getting belligerent? Sounds like we could be getting somewhere.

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  129. @Piles:

    "I wouldn't sully my tongue." Directed at the comment about Dutch.

    wv: track

    I like it when it's a real word.

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  130. this is better, than television

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  131. Also, nothing wrong with a little friendly knifeplay, as I like to say.

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  132. The US of A is the greatest country ever, all you british and european asshole's should be pretending to be from there.

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  133. Stop it Ukan you're obnoxious. Using the US currency wasn't a 'mistake', I just did it because I considered most around here are Americans.


    Really and because now you corrected yourself and used Euros here a couple of days ago even though we have the same crowd. You were talking to me anyway, who you assume is irish. Last time you told me it was because you visit there all the time and mix it up so now you changed your story completely which means you are lying.

    Why did you go to high school? I don't even think high school is even comparable anywhere in europe seeing that americans go to a whole bunch of schools before they go to a university even though they don't learn shite. Come on David. Give me a break and stop the charade.

    I don't believe what you throw on the screen david you are a cut and paste artist. I watch what comes out your mouth and trap you in your words. That's the only way to know what is real and what is fake on the internet David.

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  134. Me too, post. I get excited to type them and not have to look back.
    Its the simple things.

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  136. The US of A is the greatest country ever, all you british and european asshole's should be pretending to be from there.

    Because you are considered uneducated and unsophisticated throughout europe and david wanted to fit into that type. He thinks if he is from some European country it will lend his sophisticated persona some credibility.

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  137. moisturized ? LOL

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  138. Ooh, now wer trying to take an offensive. :-) I did react to that post, but only briefly. Why, would it make you happy to know I'm older and uglier than you are?

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  139. shut ukan up, show the ID

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  140. Lol. Oh yeah, well.. your skin is old!

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  141. Btw are you that old bag with the tired skin that badly needs to be moisturized (alhtough I guess it's too late for that), the one that Wheatley posted? You never reacted to that post.

    Why would I? It's so far off it didn't need to be mentioned. As far as I'm concerned if you want to guess about me and your wrong I'm going to leave you with that assumption because that is my goal. I'm not trying to take corporeal form here. I'm not trying to convince people who I am here david I leave that to you.

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  142. The us is a nation of victims. Theyre ignorant narcissists. Was it wheatley who said cultures are organisms?
    Each with their traits, and the states are definitely vain ignorant fools.

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  143. David, you become their meat because you care too much what people think of you.

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  144. How does being from Europe make someone more sophisticated? Sounds like something an idiot hipster would believe.

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  145. So why did you change your story david. Was it because you were educated and lived in the states for a while, because you visited new york 10 times and mixed it up, ore because you wanted the americans in here to understand you even though you were talking to me? Which story do you want to stick with? Or do you just want to come clean and stop this charade?

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  146. The only thing he cares about is what people think of him. If he didn't, I'd have liked him, too. But I can't stand such a lack of identity in anyone.

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  147. "Why would I?"

    O:

    THAT POST WAS ADRESSED TO MK

    UKAN = MK

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  148. Right, Harv. Lets see what Frank says









    wv harv

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  149. It isn't that being from Europe makes someone more sophisticated, it's that being from the us makes someone ignorant.

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  150. OK, I give in. Frank is a peacemaker, dammit. Harv, want a piece of gum?








    wv: harv

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  151. didnt we already cover that? Of course I'm UK an!

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  153. 1:49 conspiracy guy trutherNovember 23, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    1:49 PM is proof that UKan = MK

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  154. how many pics whilst dave take

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  155. Answer the questions david. Everytime I ask you about slipping on the currency and school you start blasting pictures everywhere instead of answering the fucking question. You are not derailing the inquiry this time you cunt. Why did you give me three different answers, david, if you are not lying to me. Why did you lie to everyone?

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  156. David, take a picture of the TV screen with your left hand on the right side, and a coffee cup next to the TV. While your at it, add a directory. And maybe a box of some kind of food.

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  157. If I was MK I would have revealed it by now. She would be my best work yet. Not even I could fake someone that good and I wouldn't unless I had some short term goal in mind.

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  159. OK, Frank, you made me look like a pussy on here, but it is all forgotten. Did you see that we have a new guy in our group? Hank
    He seems nice.

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  160. 1:49 conspiracy guy trutherNovember 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    1:49 PM is proof that UKan = MK

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    1:49 PM is proof that UKan = MK

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  162. Bored so posting cool songs guy: Led ZeppelinNovember 23, 2011 at 2:08 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBmueYJ0VhA

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  163. i hear ya ---- being good

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  166. Gary---Strongest Cop On The BeatNovember 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    David, you are bully food. If I was there, I would fuck them up.I fucking hate bullies. You repeat being your being bullied as a child. Do you see that?

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  167. I hardly think you're qualified to generalize a country composed of fifty states, each of which have numerous cultural microcosms. The USA is more like a cluster of countries than one cohesive one. Then again, I can't hold it against you.

    It's part of your geographical predisposition.~

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  168. Bored so posting GAY song guy: Menergy!November 23, 2011 at 2:17 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3JbP0Br8U

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  170. I love it David! We should go shopping if you are ever in the states.

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  171. See what he's doing. He's throwing pictures around and still dodging the questions. Your fucking fake David and your cut and paste persona you are trying to create doesn't fool me. Why did you mistake your own countries currency David? Why did you change your story three tines on the reason? Why do you insist on throwing pictures up everytine I ask you instead of answering the question? Why did you mistake going to high school instead of secondary? Answer the questions fuck your stupid pictures I want to hear the truth from your mouth.

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  172. why do you spell words the amarican way sometimes, ukan? answer the question lol.

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  175. why do yot care abuut some self fating fag that wishes he was a sociopath? chillax and eat some cinnamon rolls you wife made. There are better things to waste ur time on

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