Saturday, November 19, 2011

Caught red handed

A reader wrote:

I was reading the comments of this post and I found this comment: "Q) Can a sociopath genuinely cry?" That was interesting to read, because one of the reasons why I sometimes feel like I am not a sociopath is because I do cry, I do feel lonely, I do feel pain and sorrow, and sometimes I feel guilt as well. It is strange, because I know that I can feel other people's pain, for example if someone has been rejected I can remember what that feels like and feel sorry for them, or imagine pain and feel sorry for someone. I can also turn this off, and just pretend to feel for them, console them externally and on the inside I will be working out some problem, or observing the interaction. I question whether my guilt is sincere as well, because often I will only feel guilty if I am caught for something, and if I am not caught or the action is not traced back to me, I walk free.
I thought, this must be common among all sociopaths, but how often do normal people feel this as well? Would empaths feel bad about something even if there was no chance that they could be caught? Do they keep experiencing only this sort of shame until they're socialized into a conscience? I really am curious.

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  1. I believe I am an empath. To answer your question: yes, we would feel bad. Not only would stealing cause guilt because it is against an empath's morality to take something which doesn't belong to him or her, but just the fact that we empathize with somebody who has been stolen from would causes us to feel bad for making them feel that way by stealing. We just can't help it, just like you can't help your inability to understand this type of feeling.

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  2. you need some cockkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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  3. i cry about me and only me

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  4. Bullshits, I don't feel bad about anyone's pain. I do cry, but only about me, like Bella said. And I don't feel guilt when I get caught, I only regret getting caught and I'm angry at myself for having done a stupid mistake that got me caught. I don't get sad when I'm rejected. Only angry. I don't feel lonely either.

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  5. Depends. If I don't like them, or feel justified, I won't feel bad.

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  7. Perfect picture for the article, M.E lol

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  8. @medusa
    On yesterday, I find it passing strange that when a male "sociopath" like luke comes on its everyone crowing about us attacking him because he's a male and he's a rival. Now its women to you who are thrown to the wolves. I find it even more amusing that despite this claim its the women in here who spend the most time attacking other women.

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  10. David, have you ever felt guilt for anything you have done, even as a child?

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  12. As per oriental science there are two types of experiences,outer experience received by the five outer senses and inner experience received by inner senses.Sociopaths are disabled humans having defect in the inner sense or they just lack the sense of inner experience,therefore their 'self' doesn't get any inner experience as such.And that does not mean they are bad,they have normal brain functions, emotions and a sense of self but they are just disabled in reception of inner experience,that's why their actions seem superficial to the empath.Its just like a blind person who doesn't experience a stone being thrown at him but can experience the pain only when it hits him,The blind even learns to overcome everyday difficulties due to lack of vision,so can the so called sociopath,their personality is shaped by their disability and nurture by society.Modern science has failed to understand the concept of senses,the sociopath needs treatment of the inner sense which definitely has a physical existence but science does not know it.Till then meditation will definitely help these people,just get these people to meditate and remarkable results will be seen. but its sad to note that empaths who have learnt to suppress their inner sense for quick outer gains don't even know they are losing in an evolutionary way due to this suppression of inner sense.Due to their corruption they are more dangerous than sociopaths .

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  14. A Question from an Empath with a Sociopath Parent:

    1. When they hurt you, why do they enjoy your anguish. Specifically, what goes on in their mind? Do they feed off it, in some way? How?

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  15. For me guilt ties into my own belief system not the society's belief system or the legalities in execution. I may believe nothing is wrong with doing a certain thing whereas the society has declared it illegal. So if I get caught doing that the chances are I would not feel guilty. By the same token, even if I don't get caught or even if others would not think of something as wrong I may feel guilty if I took part in an activity that is against my own belief system.

    I think this sort of thinking applies to both empaths and sociopaths, or safe to say to everyone. What differs in defining guilt is the individual belief system around what is right and what is wrong.

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  16. @roger

    they want to do something and they have the power to do it and they enjoy having done it. they don't really see or understand your hurt, or better put that just is not on their radar. they just carry on. they are like tv's with poor reception. so, given that your being hurt is not making any difference on them but on you, all you can do is control your pain and avoid the beast.

    you can also use the same tactic on them and see how they react (not suggested if there is any chance of physical reaction to you). plus, it's in your best interest to learn to manipulate them because eventually they may be a source of significant revenue stream. they may also be a great place to learn how to manipulate ass-holes in the future.

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  18. fake bella you are less verbose than the real bella.

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  19. My Dad had no empathy. However, he had lots of fears about everything.
    I heard that sociopaths have little fear. Could he even be a sociopath if he was full of fear?

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  20. what kinds of fears? how do they manifest in his daily life?

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  21. He is really insecure. He does not know his own mind, so will ask a million people for advice. He will follow what he wanted to, anyway. However, he needs to get other people to tell him it is OK.

    He feels super jealous of other people. He is very black and white. If anyone has one flaw, he puts them in the inferior category and lords himself over them, but he worships people he thinks are perfect.

    He built me up, tore me down, built me up, tore me down, on and on. I never knew what the hell was going on.

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  22. I had one parent who cried all the time, ONLY when he felt guilty about his OWN losses regarding hurting another. He wasn't a total douchebag, but clearly something was off.

    He isn't a borderline, he has a codependant relationship, and very low self esteem. He does have rage, and he is charismatic, but he doesn't manipulate.

    He has empathy for the world at large. He is a philosophical thinker and a kind hearted person, just devoid of personal accountability, most likely due to having things done for him his entire life.

    He was broken, both legs cutoff by his parents who gave him no responsibility. They disabled him.

    Who would say this is sociopathic?

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  23. do people cry FOR other people? Please give me an example of this.

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  24. roger, what are the fears? fear of death? fear of spiders? fear of abandonment? fear of getting sick?

    fear of becoming homeless? fear of hurting someone? fear of losing money?

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  25. I find the fear thing a difficult one. One would think that everyone - even sociopaths - need a certain amount of fear, as it's necessary to survive.

    I'm not sure if I ever feel fear as I tend to rationalize situations very fast. I'm certainly able to feel anxiety when things don't go the way I want.

    I wonder if I would feel fear when for example in the extreme case when I would get executed. I guess there's a good chance that by the time the execution would take place I would have rationalized and relativised the situation to the point I would be calm and fearless.

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  26. i know someone who starts crying the minute I make my voice sound like I'm crying. Pathetic shit.

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  27. david. i could do that too as an empath. that's accepting the inevitable.

    the question could be do you want to get in a car with a very drunk driver? or, would you drive while very drunk?

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  28. 718

    what about with other people? Or is it just you? Is is projection onto him/herself, or is it FOR you?

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  29. @Sceli

    "david. i could do that too as an empath. that's accepting the inevitable."

    Probably, yes.

    "the question could be do you want to get in a car with a very drunk driver? or, would you drive while very drunk?"

    I've already driven a car when I was very drunk on many occasions. Would I get into a car with someone who's drunk while I was sober? If the person would be drunk to the point that he or she obviously wouldn't be able to safely drive, no. I don't think that has anything to do with fear but just not wanting to commit suicide.

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  30. Some of his fears are from not feeling he is as good as other people. He is very envious of anyone who has anything he thinks is more than he has, in any area. He is afraid of illness and traveling, too.

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  31. Me too 718. why do we find that pathetic?

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  32. Roger was your dad the sociopath or was your mom?

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  33. My grandmother always cried when she prayed at church. Every single time. I never saw anyone else doing this, so I could only rationalize that she was using prayer to cry for herself.

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  34. I agree that grandma was crying for herself at the church. people who cry at funerals cry for themselves too, realizing where they'll end up even if for a brief moment.

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  35. insecurity at home but still grandiose when it comes to treating children, not much of going outside and true success to show...

    these don't sound much like a socio, more like a narcissistic person, or depressed. and certainly more like a female, or Frank? Sorry, Frank, not an attack, you just sound like that. If you had children at home they sure would be hurt around you, if for nothing else children gain their sense of security by having a strong dad.

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  36. Why do we find people who start crying just because our voice starts a bit trembling pathetic?

    If this is just like yawning being contagious I would not find it pathetic. Just about everyone I know would yawn when I yawn, but only one starts crying when I sound as if I will cry. I actually stop and look at her face with disbelief, and sure enough she stops immediately. What bs is that? I think these are those amazing mimicking pathetic behind mask losers. Or, their psychology is so fragile that they just are in a dire state of needing to cry at all times, and we give them a good excuse to take care of that need while they feel they are so caring and good. So, whichever way you look at it, it's pathetic.

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  37. I remember only once I felt pathetic about crying, well more like shedding two tears one from each eye. That was when I held a piece of beautiful art work. I got goose bumps and shed those tears.

    Any thoughts on what those tears were for? (Good call for some bs and sarcasm, but stays anyways.)

    I don't know the answer, hence that feels pathetic. Was it because I wish that I was the artist who was capable of creating such excellence? Was it that humanity at its best was extremely emotional and those were tears of joy? I hope it was the latter, but can't be sure.

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  38. Damn, do I sound that fucking pathetic, Scelli?

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  39. Ohhh, four in a row... Check that out, Medusa.

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  40. Oops, I am sorry, but you do, Frank. Do you have children at home who see your sulking?

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  41. I have step children, Scelli. They are teens. Do you think Frank is a bad role model?

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  42. Totaly off-topic

    As I wrote in an earlier post today I'm very skeptic towards secular morals and the justice system, considering what happened only 70 years ago in Europe.

    Today I read the following;

    Foreigners who had to do forced labour in germany during WW2 receive a pension. These days many thousands of foreigners got a letter from the german autority saying that they will need to pay a 17% tax on the pension they received, starting 2005. So a lot of people are anxious about getting a serious bill one of these days for the 6 year period.

    I thought you had to be a sociopath to have no shame? :-) That's why I don't trust these masses of 'empaths'. With the risk of the eurozone crashing and germany getting more and more influence because of it's economic power the only one I trust is myself. History could easily repeat itself.

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  43. Frank,
    I don't know how Frank presents himself in real life to comment on what kind of role model he is. SW may be the only place Frank allows for his weak side to come out.

    By the way, it's so much fun to talk about Frank with Frank. I heard that narcissists like referring to themselves in third person.

    So, Frank, it is fair to assume occasional pretend-Scelli remarks are coming from Frank?

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  44. david, can you be a little more detailed in your views on that. that's a very interesting topic.

    history repeat in what way?

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  45. Sceli at 812, yes!

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  46. off topic...

    ladies, how often do you wash your bra? after wearing once? twice? many times?

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  47. "I heard that narcissists like referring to themselves in third person."

    I noticed that some people with with a low iq also tend to do this.

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  48. I remember the first time I read the definition of empathy. It was when I was taking psychology my first year in college. It's funny to think of it. Stupidly, I thought it was describing something few people have. Like the ability to solve complex math problems in seconds.

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  49. "david, can you be a little more detailed in your views on that. that's a very interesting topic.

    history repeat in what way?"

    Armed conflicts on the European continent in the long term because of economic instabilty should the Eurozone collaps.

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  50. david, that's funny. yeah, abies love to call themselves out, young children, too. so, those people who don't mature could as well.

    I think Frank's is a case of narcissism, though. Lately, I have decided a lot of people who don't work are jobless because they will not lower themselves to the kinds of jobs that would be easy for them to get, but not of high status in their minds. Frank could tell us about this more. If he only accepted that and went to work with an attitude of any work could be fun, he could get his ass off his depression. But, it is that noble in him, his wife, or his parents holding him back from doing that, along with his lazy ass.

    But, we love him here, too. Don't be sad, Frank. I do like your sweet greetings--no pun intended.

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  51. anon 8:48, wtf at which remark? I've been talking much today.

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  52. I really like the picture M.E. chose today. That kid is so socio, lol... Totally glib... Can't look at that face without bursting laughing. Who could possibly be mad at that face?

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  53. eden, i've been thinking on why you hate me so much.

    the onlything I could come up with is I may have made some warnings that are in line with what some others are saying around you and those warnings are holding you back from going full-fledge in the open with your story. and, what you are doing is protecting your children.

    I will say things that will sound like conflicting, but that's not what matters. don't get caught up in that technicality.

    here are my sincere thoughts. your coming out with your story and wanting to turn that into a movie would not hurt your children. Charlize Theron's mom shot her husband right before CT's eyes, so she saw her dad killed. Well, that was the right thing to do, so completely powering. Your dad deserves shit, and you deserve some concrete gain out of that shit. Don't hold back because loser sister wants you shut up. Don't hold back thinking the family will get hit. If you play this very strongly you'd have no problem. The only problem I see is that people may attack you for the shit you have done. The chances are that's why lawyers were hesitant to move with your witness status. But, ignore that. Instead claim all the shit you've done wrong and present it as a direct result of shitty dad. Now, I know you're too strong and that's hard to assume. Fuck it, mask it out. Say now you're a born-again Christian and hide all your future shit to yourself. Join the crowds, the American dream, the success of white Christian world. THey could even make you a Saint the way they operate. Just give them that survivor story, and become another Oprah.

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  54. damn, I burned the food while typing all of that for you, eden. lol..

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  55. the bra question. Relevance?

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  56. I wash my bra, after Frank wears it 3 or 4 times. If it is a hot summer day, Frank may wash it, each time.

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  57. I think Frank's is a case of narcissism, though. Lately, I have decided a lot of people who don't work are jobless because they will not lower themselves to the kinds of jobs that would be easy for them to get, but not of high status in their minds. Frank could tell us about this more. If he only accepted that and went to work with an attitude of any work could be fun, he could get his ass off his depression. But, it is that noble in him, his wife, or his parents holding him back from doing that, along with his lazy ass.

    But, we love him here, too. Don't be sad, Frank. I do like your sweet greetings--no pun intended.





    Huh?

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  58. there is no relevance. I said off-point. i am curious how often people wash their bra.

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  59. Umm after two wears sceli

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  60. The last time I washed my bra was when Erin took a bath and Ukan threw in the toaster.

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  61. Everyone loves a good survivor story..Look at the Olympians. Their stories are more remembered than their medals.

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  62. Bella shut up you eavesdropping cunt.

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  63. I wear a training bra.

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  64. someone is bitchy today

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  65. bitchy or giddy ya narcadilla

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  66. You can't wash your good bras too much or you'll stretch them out. You sweat and work in your medium-priced bras and wash them more frequently. The good ones less.

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  67. Oh I see. And how often will you wash you work bras, anon?

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  68. @ Anon 9:29

    Good practical advice. What type of detergent do you use to wash them? Woolite?

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  69. @Sceli

    I don't hate you. I just don't understand your motives when you come on here, announcing to all of SW, what you see me doing. I just figured you had it in for me.

    That aside: My manuscript is fully written. The conflicts I am having, is being honest about who I am, and conveying emotions in a way that a larger audience can relate to.

    The student editor who's helping to get it ready for a literary agent; has assigned a stack of books for me to read, so I can see examples of how other effective writers convey feelings of fear, shame, and loss... but it's not really helping me. She told me that I may just have to fake it... which I'm not sure just how convincing that would be.

    I let my cousin read it, and he told me the story itself was very powerful, but what little emotions I do express... comes off as superficial and adolescent.

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  70. No woolite. I get perfumy shampoo that's too harsh for my hair.

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  71. You're ideas for how I should approach the telling of my story, are really good Sceli. I haven't a clue what I'm doing.

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  72. What if you wove in some poetry in between chapters?

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  73. Erins bra *shudder*

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  74. Bella your comments are worthless. Eden already knows if she wove her poetry in between then she'd see her emotions are right there, and that she just has to put the sentiment into prose!

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  75. uz want me to stroke you *stroke*

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  76. I don't have it so bad. Erin washes me, often. If she is out in the hot weather, I get a good washing when she gets home.

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  77. Do we even have any frequent cisitors here with fully in-tact, regular levels of empathy? The only two that came to mind are long gone.

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  78. eden, that's the thing. i'll repeat again. get copyrights as is, no more work at this point. then send it out as a based on a true story screenplay. anyway, won't repeat all that i've written already. your catch is the true story. it's gotta reach professional hands. it does not have to read like a literary classic. just convey the truth.

    trying to write a good book should not be your priority. starting making money with it is another story. plus, you can hire a writer to fix it up once you start making some money with the screenplay.

    by the way, why does anyone need a motive to get in here. for me it's exposure of sorts to human brain at minimal cost (my time when I have extra).

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  79. lemme lick you up and down......

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  80. Sceli 9:31 was not me, but sure sounded like me.

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  81. Eden, if the book has shallow emotions, I don't think it will be popular. Salacious details will not sell, without a soul, which is emotions.

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  82. Get a ghost writer Eden

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  83. A screenplay does not worry about conveying emotions. It just lists the facts. It's the director and the actors who decide how to play the emotions. Accordingly, you're totally off the hook with the pressures of writing a novel where you need insight and story-telling that makes the difference.

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  84. @Bella

    lol you're cute... but have you read my poetry? It sounds pretty superficial as well! The girl helping me put it all together, thinks this story should be used to encourage women to use their voices. She's a big time feminist.

    I have to be able to reach other women on an empathic level. It's hard to do that when you don't even have empathy for your own story. Does that make sense? Or is it sympathy?

    I always sound either detached, or pretentious.

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  85. The prior Franks were not me. Fuck this place. Scelli, narcissism may be my problem. It was diagnosed as clinical depression, but does one make the other?

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  86. I don't know if I have the attention span to organize a screen play, Sceli. I see where you're coming from though. But I never tried to write one before.

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  87. A ghost writer can help fluff up some emotions, I think kinda sorta maybe fill in the blanks teehee

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  88. Depression is a result of a gap, Frank. Gap between what you want and what your reality is. A narcissist by definition has a huge gap between who thinks s/he is and who s/he really is. So, yes, bound to have depression. A sociopath, on the other hand, would go into depression when he can't play as many or as powerful games he'd like, or he fails at his games occasionally. Again, gap between desired state and reality. So, to kick out of depression you either lower your expectations of your imagined self, or you get your real self work harder to get closer to the imagined self.

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  89. "A ghost writer can help fluff up some emotions"

    That's a good idea as well. I'm starting to think I may need to turn my story over to someone else, to fix it up. Also; I'm very lazy when it comes to revision. It was easy to write it the first time, when I could just say what I wanted. But now it just seems like work.

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  90. Scelli, that makes sense. Shrinks talk in gibberish. It sounds like Chinese.

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  91. A movie, in the wrong directorial hands, can de-soul anything an author intended. Do the book how you want. Selling the story you may or may not give up some integrity.

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  92. There are free screenplay software. It's like one scene after the other. But, like I sadi, just call what you have already and send it out saying it is a screenplay. SOmeone who looks at it will laugh that you don't have a clue what a screenplay is, but then they'll still read it and see the power in the story, particularly because it's real. They will then feel it's great she's clueless we can get this pretty cheap out of her given it is written so poorly. But you don't go cheap, knowing your hook is 'true story' and this is selling rights to a true story.

    As for getting copyright... It costs 30 dollars or something, you google, find the place, send it out. Very simple. Don't submit anything before the copyrights. Since parts of your story is hard to prove it's important that you have copyrights. When it is very easy to prove you don't even need copyrights, because only you are allowed to make money off of your story. After your death it's another story. Also, expect some hungry voices once the story gets in (those of your sisters and even dad, given the story includes them too).

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  93. Sceli is wicked smart :D

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  94. does erin even need a bra she looks like a board

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  95. I hold up the skin flaps anon

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  96. Yes, I am needed. Thank you.

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  97. i bet Truth has back boobs fur shizzle

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  98. @Sceli

    You've me a lot of good information to research. I'll definitely look into it.

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  99. Eden and Sceli getting along :o

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  100. :0 <---------- enter cock

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  101. Sceli can't you keep your story (or even a poorly written screenplay) on reserve in an office for years making some money just for giving them dibs on movie rights.

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  102. Yes, they can pay you little money and promise that they'll make a movie. But, then they have bought all those other screenplays and nobody is working on your movie. SO, they are shutting off a significant source of revenue from you because each time that movie shows, each time that video is rented you should as a screenwriter get paid.

    So, it's very important that eden gets a good contract-writing lawyer once a studio shows an interest in buying the screenplay.

    As I said the other day the contract should include a clause that gives them a certain realistic period of time for the start/end of the shooting. I don't know what that is for this industry but there's gotta be some time. If no-one makes a movie in that time, then the story is back to eden and she can search for a new buyer.

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  103. Sceli y duz monkey throw poo?

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  104. Because the feces is in it's diapers.

    It has to go somewhere and when it is thrown and you are in the line of fire, simply duck. Problem solved.

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  105. sceli is awesome can i bet your anon pet

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  106. :) Sceli 10:27 is not me. Could it be david? david says it's instead of its, but a whole lot of Americans do the same.

    I am not god, but will take ' a goddess' any minute, thank you!

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  107. I am fuzzy and cuddly

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  108. Sure, Dear. Just be aware I don't let my pets sit on my lap.

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  109. Sure, Dear. Just be aware I don't let my pets sit on my lap.

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  110. David is, probably, many of the Anons lol

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  111. david has to be erins bra lol

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  112. ): I need to sit in laps very needy so I choose to remain ferral

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  113. spraying anon, ha.

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  114. now taking applications for new owner

    *must walk me everyday

    *i like treats

    *must pet

    *must be able to clean up my shit and messes

    *dress me up in costumes and take pictures

    *talk to me in baby voices

    *can't mind dry humping random people or objects

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  115. My name is David, and I suck cock for uropian currency. - Anyone care for a go? Just put your coins inside my slot ;)

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  116. ferral anon I would am put you to sleep.

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  117. time for a prowl. I will leave you anon.

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  118. Medusa would eat me (i hear them jews do dat)

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  119. David might fuck me so he wont do

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  120. Tik might accidentaly killz me

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  121. david, check this out: europe 2021
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203699404577044172754446162.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

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  122. Eden doesnt like pets

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  123. Could a sociopath be in emotional pain, all the time? I know he would not feel it for others, but would this trait make him NOT be a sociopath due to the sociopath's inherent lack of much feeling? Hope I don't sound like a moron lol

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  124. sure Gina they have feelings just shallow

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  125. just no feelings twoards others

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  127. what kind of emotional pain

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  128. how stanky iz u feet david

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  129. This is something I just can't identify with. I'm a sociopath and I can cognitively understand what people are going through but I can't feel it at all, period, and I don't think I've ever FELT guilt in my life, I've had a weird sort of cognitive guilt (if guilt is the right word) where I recognized I did something wrong and wished I could do it differently but I've never felt guilty.

    Maybe I'm just doubly weird. In regards to the article's comment on empaths though, they can be very selective with their feelings and very good at rationalizing or ignoring things they do.

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  130. my socio dad has a lot of feelings and emotion when he talks about how grandpa used to beat him. he does not mention how he used to beat my bro himself.

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  131. David, do you ever get fetish requests with your feet or food?

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  132. @ voide

    what sorta feelings

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  133. @Sceli
    That article was an entertaining read.

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  134. feelings like he is hurt when someone criticizes him, that he feels for the poor deer stuck in mud, joy when some big success story comes out for any of his children, or when he tells a good story and people listen with attention.

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  135. i wouldnt leave neone

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  136. "he feels for the poor deer stuck in mud"

    not a sociopath

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  137. @sweetcheeks

    "David, do you ever get fetish requests with your feet or food?"

    Not feet or food no but I sometimes get the request for things like golden showers ... I don't do any fetishes. I actually don't do that much, I don't even have anal sex for money. I always start with a massage (unless the client doesn't have enough time) and then just some regular stuff (kissing, blowjob, jerking off ...).

    A lot of men return because I take my time (I don't work by the hour, it's a prix fixe up to one hour and a half), I receive in a nice apartment, am very friendly and discreet, give them attention, poor a nice glass of wine ...

    Time for some star trek and chocolates now, I may be around in a couple of hours.

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  138. Slowly i step, inch by inch.

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  139. David's grasp of the English language is so random.

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  140. are you stalking or walking?

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  141. prix fixe -fancy.

    can I get a 2-fer

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  142. this song is the shit

    shallow emotions don't sell? they sure did in the 80's! lol

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  143. i think im in heat

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  144. Eden i need an owner

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  145. Frank u want a anon pet

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  146. Sweet cheeks? nope she is too needy.

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  147. I deserve goodness

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  148. Eden, Did you ever read "Shes Come Undone" by Wally Lamb. That would be an example of something which evokes an emotional response in the reader, imo. He became a number one bestseller with his first book.

    I would not read something which did not hook me, emotionally. That is where I am coming from. That's it. I did not mean it as a diss to you, Eden.

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  149. i iz good to u (: no?

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  150. Why duz the socio get off on the crying? Or is that the narc?

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  151. @Anon, I don't need a pet. If Frank gets little Frankie tamed, that will be enough for Franklin, himself.

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  152. that is a great song.. I listened to it every night for hours after my relative seduced me.

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  153. you get what you pay for?

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  154. I don't feel guilt. When I do something bad I feel great. I like to cause chaos and put people in dillemas. I love when I get over on people. The more trouble I'm causing the better I feel. I have to stop myself sometimes from going to far and remember that I'm starting a family.

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  155. I am the most vacant mother fucker here. I make you all look like school children.

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  156. In answering the final questions in this post, I'm not sure if it is so black and white.

    I think human empathy, like anything else, can be measured on a scale. Some of us lean towards one extreme or the other & most of us fall somewhere in the middle.

    Depending on circumstances and who you're dealing with, certainly empathy can be shut off in normally empathetic people. I think in many cases it is beneficial to survival to have this shut-off mechanism, especially in times of self-preservation. Think of things you may do to ensure your survival...and so rationalization plays a part in justifying otherwise guilt-producing behavior.

    While skimming through the comments, I found it interesting that a sociopath would have difficulty with some aspects of relaying emotion in art. Being an English and Literature student, I think perhaps I could offer some suggestions.

    I've read that it is not that sociopaths DON'T have emotions, it's just that their emotions are shallow and don't last long. So, I would first advise to tap into this if you are able.

    The next exercise helps me, and can produce interesting manifestations.

    Think about the emotion you are wishing to relay artistically. What color would it be? What shape? What would it sound like? Would it be fluid like water or solid like stone. What would it smell like?

    Since many people can relate to the symbolic nature of emotions, using sensory imagry can illicit some powerful connections with literature, music, sculpting, painting, etc.

    I could describe an emotion as a scarlet drop of liquid molten, too hot to touch, but so dazzling that its glow entices us do to so anyway. If we touch the molten, we burn and simultaneously the molten hardens, becomes cool, and turns black, losing its seductive brilliance.

    When we use symbolism to engage our audience, they actually become more engaged and invested because they fill in the gaps with projections of themselves.

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  157. Sociopaths are the opposite of empaths. We actually feel good when we act immoral.

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  158. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UoIMwQEgL8

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  159. poo throwing comes with the territory and that goes both ways keeps it interesting like love bites

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  160. "I've read that it is not that sociopaths DON'T have emotions, it's just that their emotions are shallow and don't last long. So, I would first advise to tap into this if you are able."

    Why?

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  161. that's why eden's poetry I find emotional even when she does not.

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  162. david, check out the comments attacking that entertaining article. not everybody is amused.

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  163. I cry but not for others. When I feel bad I sometimes cry and I sometimes smash things up and sometimes both. But I can't tell which I'm going to do till it happens, I just feel bad.

    The reader ME quoted is obviously an empath. I can tell when someone feels something but I don't feel it for them so I can't turn off the ability either.

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  164. I have never heard UKan say something that had a thought for someone else. That is pretty slick. Maybe, there is some hope for you, yet.

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  165. Harv, don't down yourself like that. Frank values you.

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  166. I can't remember the last time I cried. My parents said I barely ever cried as a baby.

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  167. Harv, snap out of that negativity. Listen to Frank. Frank has a lot of wisdom, Harv.

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  168. To Anon @ 12:17

    It was the first step in the exercise to relay emotion in art. I would think this would make the overall exercise a bit easier. If you are not able to tap into an emotion, then I would suggest observing emotional reactions and then try to imagine what shape they are taking that you could symbolically identify with.

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  169. Putn food on my family putn food on my family putn food on my family

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  170. Today is the only time I've posted, since a while. This frank person is using my name.

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