Monday, May 21, 2012

Psycho and proud?

Newsweek reports on the neurodiversity "craze":
I met [Will] Hall one night at the offices of the Icarus Project in Manhattan. He became a leader of the group--a "mad pride" collective--in 2005 as a way to promote the idea that mental-health diagnoses like bipolar disorder are "dangerous gifts" rather than illnesses. While we talked, members of the group--Icaristas, as they call themselves--scurried around in the purple-painted office, collating mad-pride fliers. Hall explained how the medical establishment has for too long relied heavily on medication and repression of behavior of those deemed "not normal." Icarus and groups like it are challenging the science that psychiatry says is on its side. Hall believes that psychiatrists are prone to making arbitrary distinctions between "crazy" and "healthy," and to using medication as tranquilizers. . . .

Just as some deaf activists prefer to embrace their inability to hear rather than "cure" it with cochlear implants, members of Icarus reject the notion that the things that are called mental illness are simply something to be rid of.
Too true.

181 comments:

  1. I have a friend who's bipolar, who is quite glad to be on medication. I'm not sure if being a sociopath is quite something to be proud of, though I find your ostensible commitment to law and morality, however devoid of their usual emotional component, laudable. I also love that you're committed to libertarian politics. I've always suspected that most libertarians were emotionally stunted.

    I have worked with 2 people I would consider to be sociopaths. One was a proud kleptomaniac who was barely functional. He wasn't scary, just sleazy. He lied, showed up late to work, blamed everybody but himself for everything bad he experienced, though far higher of himself than any evidence warranted, and was in general a useless, fat lump.

    The other was an ugly, old, bald, fat man with a wolfish gleam in his eye and a demented laugh. He was writing a movie script, he claimed, in which characters who he said exactly resembled his young female coworkers got raped by vampires. He had a gun collection. Postal worker, natch.

    In all, a sad lot and not the best company. Fortunately, they were essentially parading up and down the street with big cardboard placards reading, "I am a sociopath. Please do not feed me, I may bite." I do live in terror that I will be manipulated by some slick sociopath, however.

    I'm sorry if this offends you - assuming you can be offended? - but I am a little creeped out by the idea that I might one day be socializing with someone who, were he so minded and believed he could get away with it, could kill me with no more remorse than I have when swatting mosquitoes.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. these examples dont sound like sociopaths tbh.

      Delete
    2. Don't worry, no one is going to kill you, unless you deserve it :)

      Delete
    3. I think deterrence systems (law enforcement, community stands, moral, social retaliation) work as well for empaths as it does for psychos and socios. When I look a person I don't know in the eyes I always think there is a fair chance that this person would choose to hurt me, but maybe not higher than the possibility they would choose to help me.

      Delete
    4. Those examples sooo sound like sociopaths.

      Delete
  2. Well...

    Not all mental health disorders/gifts should be treated equally.

    I do understand that "dangerous gifts",such as manic episodes can be used to create great art works, manuscripts, etc..., and using medication such as tranquilizers alters their personality which would prevent them from accessing their creative mindset.

    but ...

    Each mental disorder is different in two categories that I'm concerned with. The effect on the self, and on others.

    These "dangerous gifts", can be quite destructive in themselves. For example, certain chemical imbalance could result in suicide, which wouldn't normally be carried out if the person was chemically balanced. Having some disorders effects their job, lifestyle, relationships if prevented.

    To say that these "dangerous gifts" are worth the outcome if the risk could potentially be suicide--versus simply being productive is worth debating.

    "neuro diversity"? Not all neuro diversity should be treated the same as I said before. Some of these neurological conditions could effect the majority with a disturbing outcome.

    An example that comes to mind is genocide. In my opinion I would think this as a disturbing outcome.

    However, I wonder who commits more crimes...sociopaths or people that have empathy? What about the effect, who has the greater effect on society?


    In short, these gifts might offer a slim benefit, but most of the neurological conditions have a greater negative effect on the person, or society as a whole.


    Also, I never considered the whole libertarian movement linked to sociopathic traits.I think it's interesting. I never really understood the social conservatives, but I definitely found the libertarians movement scarier by far.

    In theory, it sounds great, but it basically allows the strong to dominate, and the weak to become dominated.

    Who doesn't value freedom?

    but..

    Libertarism allows for the freedom to become vulnerable and more importantly allow for people to dominate others.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Libertarianism should be called voluntary blindness.

      Delete
  3. Well im on medication, and i don't believe i'l ever get off it/nor do i want to. Its what i look forward to 1st thing in the stinking morning. I guess i need it else why would my doctor keep dishing it out to me. He keeps an eye on the amount i take, sometimes on a particularly bad day i take more than i should to take off the "edge" so to speak. I do feel crazy. Im clinically medicated and anyone who knows me knows i am because i tell them. Im not ashamed, why should i be? I walk around like a zombie most days unable to feel much, yet deep in thought, often i just stare out into space, getting through the day on auto pilot,smiling, nodding and talking when is required, thirsting for night fall when the world is silent and i can completely space out. Im unable to settle, staying awake all night drinking tea, until my body crashes with exhaustion, hoping for brain dead dreams, yet night after night all i get are distubing experience's so real i think im actually living/feeling it. I think i need sleeping meds as well. I have an empty existance. I even had a tattoo to make me "feel" more alive, yet there was something strangely soothing about the pain of the needle, almost total relief that i could feel the hurt. I nearly fell asleep as the buzzing of the instrument felt like the glorious warmth of a well stoked fire place against my skin. I can admit i like my med's. It's escape without having to get drunk. The stark, raw realisation that if i fell off the face of the earth tomorrow, it would be as insignificant as the blink of an eye is too much for me to bare, not even my shadow would miss me. Ha ha ha! Whats the point?? Im like the last annoying piece of the jigsaw, that just won't quite fit no matter how many ways its pushed in. And thats because its a forgotten piece found accidently under the sofa from an entirely different puzzle? Two days without my med's and im anything but ok, everything is way too intense for me. I can not not matter how hard i try conceal my distain for particular people, i have zero tolerance, i fidget and get snappy, im just awful. On many a gorgeous day as soon as i step outside the clouds sob bath tubs of rain, then as soon as i go indoors it stops!! its friggin fustrating!!!!!!!!!! My mother thinks its just continuous bad luck. Yet im not invited out very often because even the weather doesn't like me, as my family "joke". How crazy do i sound!!...Yeah i know i should be telling all this crap to a therepist but tried that and nobody has the answer so thank God for medication!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You sound very articulate and right-on-the-point for a zombie. Your words are crystal clear, coherent and balanced. I don't think that's med's performance.

      Delete
    2. Jose, aspd is a form of insanity, that doesn't apply to inteligence...
      Anon:
      1.)when did you started taking pills, why?
      2.)how you used to act before getting into pills?
      3.)when you started feeling unlucky?
      4.)are you a socio/psycho, how did you find it out?
      5.)how old are you?

      Delete
    3. 1- 18 y o major depression, then bipolar 1, then more borderline symptoms,

      2 - carefree, ambitious, good self esteem,

      3 - after lots of feeling unwanted from break ups and also from too much focus on why I am a depressed person. Getting fired from acting out. Too much doom and gloom discussions with therapists, always making me feel wrong in a right way, in other words not changing my head just validating shitty ass emotions about myself. Who gives a fuck if ultimtely I can't/didn't move forward. Realizing I am fucked up changing my perspective all the time to be more "appropriate" a fucking jail. Rejecting myself because of it. can't move more forward than when I was in my twenties.

      4- no not socio, but I have factor 1 psycho traits and bpd. research

      5 - forties still feeling like a lost kid.

      Just plain fucked and won't open up this to anyone who I want to like me. It's self loathing x ten and I am just so tired I don't care about anything. I am tired of medecine, I am give in to my woes and hopeless for recovery.

      Delete
    4. No i do not seek attention from others in my life. I am proud to be who I have become. I have very strong survivor skills. like you wouldn't believe. Noone in the world except for very close people know how vulnerable I am. If a lover finds out though, I think they start to want to leave me and my mask gets tighter.

      Delete
    5. and tomorrow I will feel different. I will read this and say that is just my mood talking. I will be "well" and happy with myself.

      Delete
    6. you are histrionic with other mental illness and you are perfect victim for a sociopath because you don't care about things. Then you want to kill a sociopath. You want to kill your killer because you help him do the job you haven't the nerve to do to yourself.

      Delete
    7. I also have a temper you wouldn't believe. I would fight him to the death like a pitbull in a bloody garage.

      Delete
    8. that's good. stick around we can use you for the filth in here.

      Delete
    9. I am not your monkey.

      Delete
    10. oh yes,I rather feel lucky even after what I said up there.

      Delete
    11. yes yes, whatever you say cretin.

      Delete
    12. It seems that therapists ruined you.
      Also you should change your daily routine, because you sound bored of the current one, add some new activities. I really understand you.
      And you might want to stick around here to learn/discover new things, good luck!

      Delete
    13. I don't think therapists ruined me. I think they validated my home life was not normal. That made me feel sane. They brought in my family. They met them and told me straight up, both parents ruined me. I don't care about that anymore.

      Thanks and good luck to you, too!

      Delete
    14. Anon 7:41

      ^I liked your last post :}

      Delete
    15. And you didn't let them devour you^

      Delete
    16. I did not let my parents devour me, no. They are weaker than I. That would have made no sense.

      Delete
    17. Work on resentment, focus on graceMay 21, 2012 at 10:48 AM

      here is a good link to read. Ignore the Jesus parts, which is easy if you are not Monica. For Monica this is perfect, but for all else it's pretty good too. Focus is on how we keep resenting these parents, and we could find some peace if we let that resentment go:
      http://talktoapastoronline.blogspot.com/2010/12/victory-over-negative-emotions.html

      Delete
    18. Anon 9:29

      No, I meant the people posting. You took care of
      yourself.

      Delete
    19. @Work on resentment, focus on grace

      The problem with that shit is that it is like eating a chocolate cheesecake when you are lonely. It doesn't last.

      Delete
  4. I suffered from mental illness in the past and it was not what I would have called a "dangerous gift". Now I do understand the tendency of some to label anyone different as "crazy" but I have a pretty axtensive knowledge of many diagnostic criteria for major disorders, and the majority of the time something must be severely impairing the persons life to be labeled a disorder. If people are being diagnosed without having a a mental state that's such a problem its causing major problems in thier lives; the psychiatrist probably isn't diagnosing them correctly in the first place.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I think that idealising any group is a stupid thing to do.

    ReplyDelete
  6. I really wonder if sociopathworld is a place for the psychic nudity. Like those beaches in France, or Mallorca, you know. Once the clothes are off, you discover that those normally built are a minority. Imagine then if they didn't only strip off their clothes but their skin, also... could we call anybody normal?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Great point!

      Delete
    2. Deep inside we are all chaotic. Our psychic nakedness would make us inadmisible. Here we do the socio, or the psycho. Those are the new rhytms, the name of the new game.

      Delete
    3. Interesting POV!

      Delete
    4. If I have to be utterly honest, I can no longer be an understandable, reliable, predictable self.

      Delete
    5. Wow fascinating. I am truly getting valuable understanding from you, Jose!

      Delete
  7. if there was a 'cure' for sociopathy im not sure i would take it. i like me how i am now, but am also intrested to see what it would be like to be an empathic person. i dont get why they think and feel in the way they do, and am curious to see what it would be like. they seem to have a wider range of feelings, so mabey it would be more fun to be normal? i just dont get what it must be like and a 'cure' seems the only way to find out. but what if i didt like it? the life of a normal person seems a lot more boring than a sociopathic lifestyle? could i change back, or would there be laws against making yourself a sociopath?
    also i wouldt call sociopathy or psychopathy mental illnesses. they are just diffrent survival tactics. if all people were sociopathic then it would be a disadvatige, but having a minority of ruthless, intelegent, effective people is a good thing. in a famine for example you would exspect to see a high proportion of the survivors to be sociopathic. they would be more likly to survive due to their mentality. we are also very good leaders, as we make purely logical jugment, and dont let irrational jugments get in our way of makeing a good, but difficalt decition. in a war sociopaths are extremly effective, as they can use all options to defeat the enemy, have a good battle plan, and not get traumatised or feel bad afterward.
    you can see it in all animals that they dont all use the same survival strategy. for example when a male cricket is trying to find a mate, it will make that noise they make. if a female likes what it hears it will look for this male as it has juged it a suteable mate. but a minority of crickets will try to intercept the female so they can pretend to be the male they are looking for, and this minority will get to mate with the female instead. if all crickets did this then nobody would ever mate, but if none of them did this then there would only be one survaval tactic, which can prove a disadvantige for the species. (you could say this minority of crickets are 'sociopathic crickets' as they survive by malipulating the females.)
    my point is we are not 'crazy', we just survive in a diffrent way. it is only because we genraly pray on the normal people, they have decided we are crazy, and that is why they look for what they call a cure, when actuaty it is a good thing there are a few of us in the world.
    (also it would be hard to totaly wipe out sociopathy as it would be near imposiple to diagnos all of us.)

    please post your own coments about this because i want to see what other people think.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. normal people are attracted to crazy. Believe me. I am crazy and I know. Men like crazy girls. The crazier, the more challenging. If they didn't like it they would not flock. But crazy is crazy. If you like crazy, then who are you to call ME crazy!

      Delete
    2. Some people feel attracted to “different” people, very true. If you can act crazy sometimes, when you want, and then stop when you want, that’s great, but real crazy people don’t have a switch to their crazyness.

      Delete
    3. True. I have been to authentic crazyland. There was no switch.

      Delete
    4. Good point about the switch.If the switch is stuck, you are fucked.

      Delete
    5. I don't think you are crazy because of your behaviour; you are crazy because you cannot switch it off when necessary.

      Delete
    6. yes. I can tell when the switch is stuck. I have to go back like an ocd obsessed turning on and off the lights to make sure it still works. I have to rethink .

      I think too little and the switch gets stuck, I think too much the switch gets stuck. I have to think quieter and not all at once.

      Delete
  8. Who cares what they call it? Since when does words have meaning?

    ReplyDelete
  9. Voluntary deafness, voluntary lameness, voluntary impairment, they are all too common. Stories about physical and psychical malfunction are increasingly popular. For some people it sure is a relief to find (or invent)a clear origin for their personal difficulties.

    ReplyDelete
  10. Anonymous May 21, 2012 2:58 AM: who are you? I can SO relate to your thinking.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Why The Soprano's Jumped the Shark?May 21, 2012 at 4:42 AM

    I would like your opinion on this, as it relates to SW. Tony had a lot of heart and soul in the early episodes. What made the Soprano's interesting was the juxtaposition of the cold blooded killer side of Tony with the heart and soul. There were many scenes which showed the sensitive side of Tony i.e the dying horse and the shrink scenes.

    At some point, Tony morphed into the complete cold blooded killer. Then, the show was not interesting. "Jumping the shark" is when a show loses it's magic. When Tony killed Christopher, the show jumped the shark, imo.

    My larger question is about sociopaths. If a sociopath has no heart or soul, do they have any interest? I would say no.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We wouldn't survive without a heart, lol
      Soul is a thing created by church, in my opinion we are just a bunch of animals.
      Sociopaths have shallow emotions, they feel themselves relatively good, but they are apathic to other people. And we can be interested in something, why is a mystery for me too :)

      Delete
    2. I meant heart--not soul. I used the word soul, in the wrong way.

      Delete
    3. Let's see: "do you have a heart?" - this expresion means: do you care about others, are you empathic? So sociopaths don't have one then. But they care about themselves and hate boredom, so yeah, they have interests. Also they can be interested in other people, while viewing them as objects.
      Lets say that emotions of normal people reach their brains through 3 wires. In sociopaths 1 or 2 wires are cutted off.
      The love the world except for all the people ;)

      Delete
    4. Hmmmm Soprano needs to think about this one

      Delete
  12. Diagnose of ASPD is frequently derived from what the community or the social services declare about the individual, their complaints about them, mainly. I don't think this could ever be considered the source for an objective judgement, much less for a reliable professional assessment. If those around you don’t think you are a socio (or some other more bluntly expressed evaluation), sorry, you don’t qualify.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Furthermore you can have an ASPD, but be very good at pretending or just have a good self control, then no one will suspect that you have it until you will do something stupid, that would bring the real you (which can be a surprise for you too) to the surface. People are complicated :)

      Delete
    2. Sure, if you don't see the monster, don't feel the monster, cant't hear it, or smell it, or detect it with any machine, it can still be there if you want to believe it, you are free to imagine, aren't you?

      Delete
    3. What if you don't know about the monster?
      How can others realise that you have an ASPD if you are good at pretending to be normal?
      If ASPD is so easy to detect, when how many people remain undiagnosed?
      What have you been smoking, Jose? :)

      Delete
    4. "Then how, many people remain undiagnosed?" Aguess I'm a little off too :D

      Delete
    5. The definition of ASPD is an external definition. You simply cannot reach the conviction thay you have it if your behaviour is not seriously anti-social. As easy as that.

      Delete
    6. You can lie, cheat, manipulate, ignore needs of others, fight, well just be antisocial, without getting into big trouble, or without majority noticing it. You can pretend to be good when you can benefit from it, that's what socios do...

      Delete
    7. They came up with the name “sociopath” because they love to put labels to problems. That make them feel they are in control, but the mere fact that they start with the name and then try hard to put a content to it, clearly expresses their helplessness. It is society who speaks about sociopaths, and shrinks just obey the higher order. If somebody should call themselves that name we can almost be sure they are misrepresenting themselves.

      Delete
    8. I really appreciate your comments, Jose!

      Delete
    9. So, many people in this blog are misrepresenting themselves?
      Only people, who are diagnosed with ASPD have it?
      Off course the label doesn't change anything, but we call milk milk, because it fits the symptoms of milk and so on :)

      Delete
    10. Milk can be analyzed and confirmed as milk. But not all white fluids are milk, and not all the people that cause social problems have psychic or genetic traits in common.

      Delete
    11. Obviously not all bastards are psychopaths, but not all *good people* aren't (aspd is a brain disorder, not a way of living, but it influences it)
      It feels like we are stating the same facts, but from different angles and disagree about it :)

      Delete
    12. Lets put an example: cough and headache: two common symptoms of thousand of diseases. If all you know is that you have cough and headache you are as far from an accurate diagnose as you would be if you didn’t know it.

      Delete
    13. Of course you can say "I must have caught the flu" and go on, satisfied that is the truth.

      Delete
    14. You can notice that more symptoms point it to flu, you can miss some of them, others might not realise that you are sick.
      Well I fit for ASPD, but I haven't killed anyone or did something similar to that yet, because I know that I can be punished for that and its just not worth it. Also I can act like I care if I think that I need to, but most of the time I act like I want. Well I haven't visited any therapists yet, so I am undiagnosed, and without a label.
      By the way, had you seen a film "American Psycho"? No one suspected that he was a psychopath :)

      Delete
    15. The names “sociopath” and “psychopath” came into being because of the indignation of small communities. Shrinks run up to the place where the angry mob was, ready to assault the jail, and tell them: don’t worry, we have discovered the root of evil, its name is “sociopathy” and everybody stared in amazement, put down the flaring torches, sighed with relief and went home; some of them even believed sociopaths existed.

      Delete
    16. Interesting story.
      So what am I then ?
      What's the point of this blog then?
      Why are you here?

      Delete
    17. Shrinks only named the monster. Later people realised that there are more monsters, that act like the first one. Well, actually, firstly they discovered a group of people and then named them :)

      Delete
    18. They didn't discover people, they discovered wicked actions, formerly they'd had put them down to devil's influence, but that was outdated, and new names were necessary.

      Delete
    19. Why wicked, why evil, lack of empathy, charm, ability to lie very good and others are good things :)
      Normals, aspies, socios, schozoids, ect. are just like hair colours (blonde, brunete...). They all have their features, that's all.
      If you don't want to be labeled, it doesn't mean, that labels doesn't exist ,)

      Delete
    20. Charm, ability to lie, etc., those are media attributes. Don't get them mixed. It's the show biz. There's no biz like show biz.

      Delete
    21. Oh come on, I was obviously saying that ASPD gives one many advantages too...
      Well atleast you didn't wrote anything against other things I wrote :)

      Delete
    22. Opinions die, it is only the record that stands.

      Why would anyone ask a sociopath to define evil?

      Delete
    23. Because he wants to see how sociopath frowns due to serious thinking.

      Socios read books, watch movies, they are capable to write a definition of evil without really understanding it.

      Delete
    24. "Evil is a force which harms people" simple as that.

      Delete
    25. Being charming and successful, and competent at telling lies is not included in the psycho or the socio pack. You should read the small print at the bottom of the page...

      Delete
    26. Having a psycho or socio pack is not a bad thing.
      Happy?

      Delete
    27. I'm pretty sure, that those things are in the list of symptoms.
      Jose is lying (or just stupid), don't believe the lies.

      Delete
  13. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/07/how-to-land-your-kid-in-therapy/8555/

    Don't screw up your kids!

    ReplyDelete
  14. "If those around you don’t think you are a socio (or some other more bluntly expressed evaluation), sorry, you don’t qualify."

    Yeah, maybe because you are just that good at wearing the ol mask. You know ?

    Why all the interest in this blog all of a sudden.... "jose"

    ReplyDelete
  15. We are a more or less numerous set of masks, that's what we are. Nothing behind them...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Very helpful, Jose! Thank you, exceedingly!

      Delete
    2. There are two kinds of masks, the first is the mask we use in order not to be recognised; the second is the mask we use to be recognised. The third option, going without a mask, is a no-choice; it would make us invisible.

      Delete
    3. How invisible?

      Delete
    4. how many masks is normal?

      Delete
    5. zoe said there is no normal. I'm going with that

      Delete
    6. explain 'going without a mask makes you invisible'

      Delete
    7. Look: you have to act it out; it doesn’t matter if you don’t have anything to act out, you have to be there, even if you have no reason to be there. You have to play a part, even if you have no part to play. Those are the rules that fall to our lot as living beings. We have to move; speaking about truth and lie has no meaning in this context.

      Delete
    8. You need a mask to be recognised, clothes to be perceived, words to be answered, lies to be understood.

      Delete
    9. Will need to think about this one and be back to ask a question or two.

      Delete
    10. It's like when they take you a photo, you have to pull up a face, don't you? some do it better, some do it worse. Life is the same.

      Delete
    11. Hmmm--YES I get it. It makes perfect sense

      Delete
    12. How many masks is normal? Cute lol

      Delete
    13. It was a serious fucking question, "Monica" I am a very, very, very serious person and i expect to be taken seriously at all times, hear?

      Delete
    14. From her?
      Good luck on that one. LOL^

      Delete
  16. I think this article is somewhat biased by the psychoanalytic background of the author.

    A struggling adult's problems are not always a result of parenting. Poor parents...not only do they have to worry about neglecting their kids, but now doing too much! Perhaps some CME for the author focusing more on biopsychosocial theory as relate to depression and dysthymia.

    I don't discount psychoanalysis (I trained at Menninger), and believe the author should also consider counter transference. You couldn't find a reason for a patient's dysthymia, but yet it is still the parents? Something to think about and perhaps talk about in therapy.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Replies
    1. Hello there, when do you dedicate a song? I am confused, because I haven't seen alterego recently :)

      Delete
    2. Themes for SW RegularsMay 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

      I just am saying Hello to Alterego. There is no exact science, here.

      Delete
    3. Thank you for the input :)

      Delete
    4. My pleasure :)

      Delete
  18. AnonymousMay 21, 2012 4:21 AM
    Anonymous May 21, 2012 2:58 AM: who are you? I can SO relate to your thinking.

    AnonymousMay 21, 2012 5:04 AM
    I am your father!

    ReplyDelete
  19. AnonymousMay 21, 2012 7:24 AM
    how many masks is normal?

    ReplyDelete
  20. AnonymousMay 21, 2012 7:25 AM
    zoe said there is no normal. I'm going with that

    ReplyDelete
  21. Monica as Anon or some other nameMay 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Signature action by Monica: to say will be back after thinking.

    But, she will not really think about it, justtake a pause and then decide that it'd be too much work, and come back with a question that's been crcling in her mind forever.

    AnonymousMay 21, 2012 7:34 AM
    Will need to think about this one and be back to ask a question or two.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Gee, you read my mind

      Delete
    2. So what? Who cares?

      Delete
  22. AnonymousMay 21, 2012 9:37 AM
    Hello there, when do you dedicate a song? I am confused, because I haven't seen alterego recently :)


    Themes for SW RegularsMay 21, 2012 10:23 AM
    I just am saying Hello to Alterego. There is no exact science, here.

    ReplyDelete
  23. if someone can be given treatment to stop them being a drain on society and turn them into a more productive member then that's good for me - i don't care if they don't think of themselves as 'different' rather than 'ill'.

    i am not neurotypical but overall my traits are valuable to society so i shouldn't be medicated, but a schizophrenic or beeper or depressive should be forced to.

    some would say that everything should be legal so long as you aren't infringing on the rights of others, but e.g. heroin use is illegal because addicts become a huge drain on society. if i was in charge heroin would still be illegal and those who are mentally ill and a drain on resources would be forcefully treated.

    also - a deaf person who turns down an operation to give them hearing is a retard; there is 'different', and then there is 'additionally good'.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'd like to know who is society, who decides what is valuable for it and what isn't, and whose resources are society's resources.

      Delete
    2. my meaning is perfectly clear; why try to confuse the matter... unless you simply don't realise i am just out for myself - in which case you are dumb as well as annoying.

      Delete
    3. If you are really out for yourself it doesn't add up for me that you pose as a defender of society's interests

      Delete
  24. Dear sociofriends, I think I'm in love. It feels weird. How's that even possible?!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Sadly, this topic seems to be unknown for socios, whatever.

      Delete
    2. Who's in love ? What ? Are you depressed or something ? it's not possible right ? Stop acting crazy :-/

      Delete
  25. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  26. Now I’m here, reading what you say. I know I could be far from here any minute from now. It’s a question of being able to steer myself, to look out at the real face of the world. Some people think it is their moral, or the love of their birthplace, of their environment, what makes them stick to the place, to their habits or to themselves. It’s not; it’s only fear.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. fuck me jose i fell asleep halfway through your vacuous nonsense.

      Delete
  27. Jose getting under your skin, Res?

    ReplyDelete
  28. Diagnose this person:
    thinks he's extremely hot
    is confident
    insults and mocks people on their looks
    is scared of stronger people then himself
    is scared of thugs and going out in subways

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. is violent when criticized

      Delete
    2. Sound like you got yourself a narc (or just garden variety deluded, cowardly idiot). Now as tempting as it may be to spank him with a rusty nail studded paddle, just remember, gaslighting is way more fun. Go forth, enjoy. Remember to play up his delusions and really worm yourself under his skin. Potential for endless fun and games.

      Delete
    3. I wonder how many people come in here for a good laugh?

      Delete
    4. nurses are the ones who secretely want to be a doctor but are too dumb to succeed at it

      Delete
    5. Nurses are those that can't be bothered with 4yrs undergraduate, 4yrs medical school, 1yr of internship (where they will get treated like the arrogant weasel they are), which is then followed by 5yrs of residency. Far too much crap to go through just to become a doctor with no real life, friends that use you, a spouse that married you for money and a bunch of nurse coworkers that still think you are an arrogant, monkey spanking weasel. They just say it more behind your back than before.

      Delete
    6. Nurses fix doctor's fuck-ups.

      Delete
    7. Yep. We also kick the spank out of those doctors who think they have the right to treat patients like objects with a bunch of symptoms, not people who need help. At least, I do. Nothing like giving those that are assholes a taste of their own medicine in front of their entourage.

      Delete
    8. That's cool.

      Delete
  29. What kind of nurse are you, green eyes?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I've worked in surgical, medical, palliative and oncology. When I get bored, I just move on to a new specialty. I'm the one that befriends the wards assistants, security, cleaners, nurses and good doctors.
      I don't tolerate incompetence and I speak up for my patients. I'm a spanking ball buster, but very good at my job.

      Delete
    2. Green Eyes has referenced "spanking" 4 times tonight.

      God I'd hate to piss you off. ;)

      Something on your mind??

      Delete
    3. Hey Grey, I'm just trying to send a somewhat less than subliminal message to Monica :) If this doesn't work, I don't know what I'll do. Maybe neon...

      Delete
    4. "Hey Grey, I'm just trying to send a somewhat less than subliminal message to Monica :) If this doesn't work, I don't know what I'll do. Maybe neon..."

      You didn't say it, gn! You are SO busted!

      Delete
    5. Grey is Raven, obviously. Which means you already lost the game before greeneyes did.

      Next time, log back in.

      Delete
    6. Call me special, but what the spank makes you think Raven is Grey?

      Delete
    7. Cuz look how she's logged out of her blogger account.

      Delete
    8. Sorry, still doesn't spank much to me. I get logged out all the time on my computer, so to me, it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

      Delete
    9. How retarded. I am not Grey. I just keep getting logged out, and I'm tired of writing out an entire spanking message only to realize I need to log back in to post it. You're an idiot for thinking that means anything.

      Delete
  30. I'd rather be proud. Being ashamed doesn't change anything. Neither does being proud. I guess I'm not going to waste my life hating myself for something I cannot change when there are advantages to celebrate.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Speaking of pictures; the article with the boy and his eyes
    bother me. It's the eyes of someone mentally ill or angry
    that gives me the creeps but I hope to loose this fear. There's always hope.

    ReplyDelete
  32. All's fair in love and spanking :)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. do sociopaths hate shallow people like narcissists? do sociopaths judge people as much as the rest of society on looks?

      Delete
    2. I personally love spanking narcs. If you are even a little manipulative, they are so oblivious, you can have a lot of fun with them before it gets boring ;)

      And yes, I judge people on their looks, but if a person is useful, looks can be easily overlooked.

      Delete
    3. do you mock people on their looks? And when you see a funny/ugly looking girl or guy, will you laugh at them?

      Delete
    4. No, what kind of wanker do you take me for? If a person has extremely questionable sense of fashion (such as men who wear skinny jeans that make them look like an incontinent penguin), yes I might chuckle, but it's a bit too juvenile for my liking to bully them.
      I have even dated a few ugly, but useful men. Spank me! Some even thought they were lady killers. Those were narcs. Best fun ever to rearrange the furniture in their heads a little.

      Delete
    5. Lol. Zoe have you seen those guys wearing skinny jeans low slung? It both looks and makes them walk as if they've just done a massive crap in their pants :)
      The stubby little legs poking out also makes them look like penguins. I just find it revolting. Then again, I think anyone bigger than ideal weight should not be seen in skinny jeans. They make the legs look short and stubby whilst making the ass look bigger. Not a good combination.
      Oh and don't get me started on women who try to fool themselves by getting pants 4 sizes smaller than they should. You know, the ones with a massive muffin top spilling out or flap of stomach fat swaying hypnotically above (or even over) the pants waist. Just lovely.

      Delete
    6. lol. i'll have to keep an eye out for the puddle butts.

      you're so right about the penguin look. even at ideal weight, the skinny jeans always look better with boots than with teeny tiny shoes that just make you look bigger on top.

      Delete
  33. yes on what question medusa?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think it's obvious what question she said yes to.

      Delete
    2. Why don't you tell me then?

      Delete
    3. No

      Can you tell what question I was answering?

      Delete
    4. Yes to both. Why are you asking those questions?

      Delete
  34. I think this is definitely an amazing project here. So much good will be coming from this project. The ideas and the work behind this will pay off so much.
    bonnerbusinesscenter |

    ReplyDelete
  35. Thank you so much! Really rich content and very useful information. I found my problem’s solution starting over here.
    www.7tz8.org |

    ReplyDelete
  36. This can chafe the cheap essay papers courage plus can advantage to delicate teeth harm. The sense can line from blue zeal smart until the heartache else drastic, cute.
    health-of-migrants |

    ReplyDelete

Comments on posts over 14 days are SPAM filtered and may not show up right away or at all.

Join Amazon Prime - Watch Over 40,000 Movies

.

Comments are unmoderated. Blog owner is not responsible for third party content. By leaving comments on the blog, commenters give license to the blog owner to reprint attributed comments in any form.