Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Famous narcissist? Mary Roach

A friend sent me this. Obviously it's hilarious, but it's also a really good example of what if feels like watching a narcissist at work (to all of your narcissist readers that this blog apparently attracts?). There's something so blatantly ridiculous about the way they act and how disconnected they are from reality.




Mary is absolutely immune to criticism and when confronted with the truth about her singing, she immediately assumes that her critic has a personal issue with her that is driving the criticism as opposed to merely stating the obvious truth. One of the more obvious narcissist qualities is that when the judges start playing with her, she doesn't fight it or immediately defend herself but plays along. She wants it to seem like she is in on any joke that they might be having and even if the joke is at her expense she would rather have the attention (even negative) than cede the spotlight. When they give her the goodbye, she keeps the conversation going, although it means rehashing their worst criticism of her. She also feels compelled to turn the tables and judge them for their appearances, as being smaller, thinner, prettier, and "hot." She doesn't need to criticize them necessarily -- it is enough that they seem interested in her assessment of them. Of course they did not ask her for her opinions on them, but she manages to misunderstand a direct question and act as if she has some unique vision that warrants sharing.

It's so funny to watch this because I know someone who acts exactly this way, even down to the little awkward mannerisms, especially the shrug at 4:50. The world is just not ready enough to appreciate their talents, but ain't no thing. These people can't be kept down for long by haters.

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  1. Interesting take-home factoid #42: Before MDMA was called ecstasy it was called empathy

    BTW – first

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    1. Re: factoid... Maybe I should try it, just once. I'm curious as to whether it might unleash a flood of emotions on a deeper level than I've ever experienced them.

      Then again, I've seen people on that crap at raves. I've always found their collective back rubs and "positive energy circles" to be ridiculous.

      Have you ever taken it, MP? If so, how did you react to it?

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    2. @ Alterego

      The quality these days varies so much that I don’t bother with it much anymore. Equally with most drugs in England. The weed or ketamine or whatever is either so weak as you’d be better off sniffing your gym shoes for a high before going out or disproportionately strong as to make you some dribbling catatonic bedlamite.

      That said, I’ve had some great times on drugs. The positives tend to out-weigh out the negatives if you don’t go ape-shit on them.

      I recommend reading Jon Ronson’s book, “The Psychopath Test” that had a chapter or two about a do-gooding psychiatrist that thought by prescribing ecstasy to sociopath’s he could alleviate their more extreme anti-social behaviours.

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    3. So what response to the Love drug did they have?

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    4. It all ended in tears before bedtime. Admittedly, these were hardened recidivist criminal sociopaths that the psychiatrist was trying to reform. The study was eventually shut down as it transpired that everyone, including the psychiatrist and the assistant researchers were all just indulging in drugged out ecstasy sessions that the sociopaths were just going through the motions, pretending that they were gaining from the experiences.

      But there were some other darker experiences that I can’t quite recall exactly from the book (as it was lent to me) so please don’t quote me on it (and also, I've just returned from an after-work drinking session) – but some of the sociopaths had quite a different reaction to the drug and got severely mentally damaged. I recall something about one test subject wanting to remain in an isolated basement and smearing shit all over themselves constantly.

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  2. BAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That was hilarious!

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  3. Part of the problem is that she looks more a swedish man than she does a woman.

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    1. Mary Guilbeaux. Lady Gaga before the make-over, chorography and auto-tune.

      Why did I have a foreboding sense of déjà vu watching this? Thanks M.E for the rude awakening.

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    2. LOL! I've never been a fan of her music; I am partial to rock and blues.

      Imo, Gaga is a walking poster child for HPD (histrionic personality disorder), but at least she is not afraid to take risks for fear of looking ridiculous, or being ostracized. I respect that in a person.

      It takes a measure of courage to reach her caliber of outrageous.

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    3. "Well, weirdness is originality, to" ; )

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  4. You're retarded, M.E., as a narcissist I can assure you that I don't like like that at all. People love me and think I'm better than them, that's the reality.

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    1. She seems more aspie to me than narc

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    2. Delusions are a part of the PD, as you too are showing.~

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    3. So is projection, Monica.~

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    4. I was kind of expecting to see narcissists complain, lol

      M.E., don't forget that you have a wide readership ;-)

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    5. Yes Narcissist, I'm sure you really are that awesome. Everyone loves you, even though they secretly harbour a lot of jealousy towards you for being better than they could ever dream of being.

      I bet women are swooning in the street the second they lay eyes upon you.
      Everyone who thinks a you are less than a god must be retarded. Who are these lowly beings to pass judgement on perfection after all?

      You are almost as hilarious as Mary Roach. Shame we can't hear you sing ;)

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    6. green eyes you're a fucking idiot. It's hilarious that everytime a narcissist comes on here, you spend your time saying the same bullshit you've been saying thirty times, you fucking cocksucker. Enough with the broken record already and find something new, hmmm? I'm curious what your strange obsession with narcissists is, were you abused by one? *clap clap*

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    7. They had to write a report on their science experiments AGAIN! Glad my "private" life can be of such entertainment for you.....waving at the fam*

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    8. They had to write a report on their science experiments AGAIN! Glad my "private" life can be of such entertainment for you.....waving at the fam*

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    9. Wow Friend, you are sounding more amusingly rabid by the minute.
      You really need to get laid, you scary Badass you. It does wonders to relieve all that aggression.
      Oh and yes, I did grow up with abusive narcissists and had plenty of friends crying to me for help after enduring a relationship with one. How very perceptive of you, I'm impressed.

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    10. Green eyes, define exploitation? It may serve you well to understand that there are 2 sides to every story. I am highly aware of the "scope" I am under here.....very aware. my reactions are no different than what yours or anyone else's would be.....Pity plays are deceiving....that's why I am where I am....I felt sorry for someone.

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    11. Also aware that "a friend" is NOT me, just posed to make it juicy and interesting for all too see.

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    12. a friend- I know it must be difficult to go through life being as ugly as you are, but that is not Green Eyes fault. you should come to peace with being ugly and try to lose that 70 pounds you were planning on dropping last new years. At least if you are not a weezing humungoid of hate and bitterness some people might care if you lived or died.

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    13. Go--a friend
      Green Eyes is the biggest follower on SW. Glad someone else noticed.

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    14. Shut the fuck up monica

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    15. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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  5. BTW we drop the 'e' from choreography in England ; ) [see yesterday's blog for explanation]

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  6. That was painful and annoying, the desperate grasping to cling to her sense of self was pathetic. To her credit, I think she actually managed to hit a couple of the right notes on that impromptu song at the end.

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    1. The look on Simon's face when she started singing was priceless. She even had a name picked out for when her talents are recognised and she makes it big in Hollywood. Judging their appearances whilst sporting a camel toe, storming out defiantly declaring she will not cry, then tearing up for the camera, the finale.. all hilarious.
      The sound of two cats fighting or a dental drill is more appealing than her voice. I heard no such thing as her hitting the right note, and if she did, it was surely an accident.

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    2. LMAO! Greeneyes I 100% agree! Hilarious clip!

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  7. I hate my injured narcissism.

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  8. Speaking of dropping ‘E’ – and to address your earlier post Alterego about taking ecstasy – perhaps Sociopath World could undertake some on-line social experiment whereby we all agree to a time to partake in a pill-popping party and then observe the resulting effects.

    Though I’m guessing on a whim some horrorshow clusterfuck not unlike an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_horizon/"Event Horizon

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    1. Anyone who wants to feed me ecstasy is welcome to study me :b

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    2. I'm down to try it out, post-mellowing. I'll let you know how it goes.


      FOR SCIENCE!

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    3. Wooah Nelly. Hold up there Ken Kesey

      We all have to do it together at the same time.

      Sorry Anonymous 4:07 it is by definition B.Y.O.E

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    4. The thing that sucks is the only friend I know in driving distance that can probably get me some E is going to be really mad when I call him about it. We haven't talked in years.

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    5. Invite your friend along also TNP. In my short tenure here I’ve noticed Sociopath World is a broad church.

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    6. Hm. Come to think about it, there was a really young guy at my last job who just got out of college. He might be someone better.

      HmmmMmmmmMmmmm

      Maybe doing E with a dude isn't the best idea.

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    7. Don’t worry about all that touchy-feelie bromance BS TNP. I’m sure young Monica Moo will be there to sing karaoke under the influence of;
      <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvgtcuQed98 /"Ecstasy”

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    8. Monica loves pet names. I am sure Mindless Pleasures has a silver tongue ~

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    9. E with a dude, and karaoke. Add in clowns, and you have the terrifying trifecta.

      Oh, wait, Monica is a clown...

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    10. Haha I can charm the birds from the trees me.

      TNP, I don't know which is worse, the Charlene song or Monica Pennywise singing it.

      Fuck the ecstasy, I'm reaching for the thorazine.

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    11. How about DMT + E + Heroin?

      There's some Keysian experimentation.

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    12. Personal Assistant to the CEO of SociopathworldSeptember 25, 2012 at 6:53 AM

      Atten: To whom it may concern

      CEO is very busy at the moment but showed passing interest into a possible scientific mass experiment into the usage of ecstasy and other assorted narcotic substances to assess the impact on sociopaths and empaths alike on this site.

      We have scheduled into the diary a time to consider its merits at the next Sociopathworld AGM.

      I thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    13. I took E nearly every weekend for 2 years when i was younger. In that time I forgot about the need to manipulate everyone I came across, started volunteering for charities, fell in love with a girl (or so I believe lol), and took up rescuing abused animals. I would work all week on my little projects, then roll on the weekends and party my ass off. Then it became so that MDMA was no longer an ingredient found in it where I live, and people started selling smack tabs with a pinch of coke. Sometimes just good ol' mescaline, which I would never complain about. Anyway, at that point I got out of it. Over the next 2 or 3 years, I lost the love of being around other people, got bored with charity and turned back into a hardass. Took up playing the game with people again just to pass the time and learned how to make my masks and polish them even prettier than before.

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    14. Anon 8:14, you werent referring to those roof parties on east 6th st by any chance...

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    15. We used to drop E in a select party of about 20 people and spend 3 hours deep kissing each other to groovy music with lots of candles.

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    16. Nope, no roof parties for me. Just hanging around outside under the trees, everyone taking turns on the Les Paul :) coming up with solutions for all of the world's problems just to forget them by sunrise lol

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  9. I'm curious what the different reactions to watching this tape mean.

    When I watched it I felt extreme discomfort and sadness for her. I am not sure if that's compassion, sympathy, or empathy, or specifically cognitive empathy, or projection. She was saying she did not care but I could see her care, I could see her masking and fighting to stay alive. It was such a relief to see her departure. I felt mostly relieved because I am not related to her and that I am not responsible for helping her.

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  10. this is just scaring me... I wondered seeing narcissism in action would be or how theyd act when they arent on their best behavior... its scary.

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    1. ANYONE exploited and backed in a corner will react, not only a narcissist, anyone. What is actually scary is that a person would SUPPORT another persons exploitation endeavor. It's a pack of evilness.....that is SCARY

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    2. I agree- setting up a mental patient to be mocked was shooting fish in a barrel. What's next? Down syndrome cowboy juggling? Schitzopath tap dancing?

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    3. Or how about a sociopathic schizoid ice fishing

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    4. How about pin the tail on Monica? I hear she has a big ass

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    5. Monica is skinny

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    6. Monica is so fearful.

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    7. Fear is the only thing that keeps her here

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    8. Monica has a flat chest. I've seen her picture. She said she had big breasts back when she thought everyone here was convinced that she was not Erin.
      She is anorexic, and has a small chest and ugly face.

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    9. Thx for clearing that up

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  11. LMAO!!!!! The judges faces when she was singing were PRICELESS! She was awful! Whoever told her she had a great voice must have just felt bad for her! LOL! Hilarious way to start off the morning!!!!!


    Good Morning Sociopathworld and good morning to my buddy Monica!!!!!

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  12. humm.. It has some narcisistics elements in her, but you can say that to almost everyone (mayb very low IQ people are exception??). Like now, when everbody in this page feels "superior" to her or how the video exploits her weirdness. But you can find this kind of behaviour in schizophrenics, bipolars and even "normal" people .. Or even a sociopath. Yeah, that's true. There a lot of people that you can label it as sociopath and at same time have totally deluded ideas. I have met pretty dumbs actually, but of course it's not about how ridiculous or how intelligent they're. It's not that hard to find one, try to go to a prision and talk. What your text is doing is actually worse than any scientific document (argh), just over-simplyfying and stereotyping, one dimensional view of someone. Instead of viewing her in components: her past, her relationships, medications, etc..There are co-morbidity too. There are things in her that any "Doctor" could ever imagine.. Or maybe, we all are just a bunch of "nothing". But I certain that exists more things than a "TV-show" can show to us or maybe, just look things that are stuck in between of a context.

    A excellent text about narcissism and sorry my bad english (not may native language):
    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/08/just_because_you_see_it_doesnt.html

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    1. (an excerpt of the I posted above):
      "IV.

      If you think of narcissism as grandiosity you miss the nuances, e.g. in her case the problem is narcissism without any grandiosity: she is so consumed with her identity (as not pretty) that she is not able to read, to empathize with, other people's feelings. She doesn't care to try because it conflicts with how she sees herself."

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  13. fReaKy sUbLimiNaL mESsAgesSeptember 25, 2012 at 4:18 AM

    ~ssSShhiit~

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  14. Hi Rich!!!

    I had a bunch of different feelings when I watched. She was not a sheeple. I feel so inundated with sheeple, that I could scream.
    She turned the power around, at one point, and made the panel feel uncomfortable, which was s great strength on her part. 99.999% of the people could not have done that. She owned them, at that small point.

    She is different. She is way out, but any person who makes it to the top is unique, and is his own person. The sheeple stay huddled in a heap and criticize the ones who have the balls to put themselves out there.

    I respect that she did that. Could she ever work on her voice and be good? I don't know. Maybe.

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    1. ^Spoken like the true narcissist that you are.

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    2. Monica=puppet....a made up version of anyone you label narcissist

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    3. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    4. No You DON"T ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    5. Quit egging it on.

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    6. What's your name lololol

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    7. you first lolololololololol

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    8. I think I have already been introduced haha

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    9. Wow, Monica... What reality, what planet are you on? Gosh, stay around you have so much more to learn. She did none of what you are saying from anyone else's perspective. Only in her own world she did that. So sad, so delusional. Reminds me a very similar episode from my own life. You really need to get a grip. Read everything here said about the video and this woman, and don't assume the remarks are all coming from socios. I sure am not one. I don't mean this to hurt you but the way you are operating you really are deep down somewhere in the food chain, possibly one little notch above your buddy Rich in terms of your ability to get out there. He is above you in terms of self-acceptance.

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    10. Maybe with EXTENSIVE vocal lessons she could be great :)

      Yeah when she started pointing them out 1 by 1 and critisizing their looks I thought Simon was going to turn the tables and fire back! Thankfully he didnt!

      But the look on her face when she was told "I think that is a No from all of us" was agenuine look of "WTF? Iam the best singer I know, how could this be happening!?!?!?!"


      Ms.Roach has something a little crazier than Narcissism I think........ She is WAYYYYY out there!

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    11. Monica, a bit more. I think you should get in the business of offering something to these delusional people. You are soothing to them, look at Rich, he's hooked. You see them in such a positive light (and so naturally), I'd say start a hugging business if you were a bot heavier, who wants to hug bones. But, psychic would work with these people too. I finally see who your market would be. Reach out to them.

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    12. Haha.....Monica is a figment of the imagination and morphs into the current Narc used to ridicule...Rich is pretty pathetic too.......I wonder who he is IRL

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    13. Perfect timing Rich.......

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    14. LOL! I do love Monica because she is so nice and sweet, it is refreshing to have a person like that here on SW.


      Monica I hear you have a blog?!?!?! I would love to read it :) I wont critisize you :)

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    15. Haha Rich.....join the posse and read on

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    16. IRL my name is Rich, I live in South Florida, I enjoy smoking weed, using the internet, and drinking til blackout. I have 4 cats. Iam quite lonely alot of the time...... I do enjoy SW though,Iam glad I have found this place :)

      How about you Anonymous? Who are you IRL? What do you enjoy?

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    17. Thank you Anonymous :)

      You seem like a good person, harsh at times, but good.

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    18. Monica 419
      "She is way out, but any person who makes it to the top is unique, and is his own person."

      I have never seen such a person at the top, with her mentality. She would have to give the public something unique to be successful but she herself would be unacceptable.

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    19. Shut the fuck up Rich

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    20. What do you mean, Anon 10:16?

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    21. Rich, in the past ME has been willing to give people other people's e mails. See if she/he will give you mine or vice-versa.

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    23. I e mailed you, Rich. Tell me if you got it :D

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    24. 10:06....THAT is the problem...you can only allow yourself to believe 1 thing. You can't accept that there may be more that what you know. We only see what we can allow ourselves to believe. Nobody including myself wanted to believe it. That is how I found this place. I was trying to unravel the craziness. I was here before I knew anything, trying to learn and understand...much to my surprise

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    25. Nobody wanted to believe "what"?

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    26. If you have to ask what you are not part of it

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  15. I actually knew a Narcissist who tried out for American Idle. Very different than this creepazoid.

    Obviously, this persona is completely delusional, but you can see that the rage slipping through the cracks indicates some level of shame and self-doubt.

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    1. American Idle... Was that intentional TNP?

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  16. She's just like Monica hahaha! She liked the female judge because she was the only one who didn't dare to criticize her. It's always about them, how much they'll like you isn't based on you, your personality or anything else, it's just based on how you treat the narcissist. It's pathetic. Monica, you're pathetic.

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    1. This shows that Karma really does exist.

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    2. It's a Universal truth what you put out there, returns to you.

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    3. Yes, this is amazing to watch. Fictitious Karma? Illusionary Karma? WHo needs this sort of fucked up Karma. Overall they get very negative Karma. Like the girl in the video. Which normal would compliment that girl after watching her performance. I bet she watches that video on YouTube and also proudly forwards the link to all of her new acquaintances. What she sees is 'courage' in the face of diversity. Right, Monica? Do you see that too?

      Both my mom and sis are like that. Just as they tell you they hate someone they change their opinion if that person makes a compliment and appeals to them as how nice they are or how good-looking they are.

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    4. Btw....where is that Psycho Monica? she should be coming on stage soon

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    5. I think it is a bit like that for all people........ If somebody critisizes me and treats me like shit, iam probably not going to like them, regardless of their personality or anything else.....

      I dont see anything wrong in that way of thinking, and Monica shouldnt either!

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  17. Note * a friend is NOT me, may appear to be from my IP but not me

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    1. What a cocksucker you are, anon. I'm the friend, the only friend around here. Period.

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    1. :) makees me feel special to have my own theme song :)

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    2. Anything anyone does would make you feel special, Rich. You hide home all the time, so probably you don't get much attention from the outside world.

      I'd say take your mom on a redneck cruise vacation, let her pay and you pretend to be whatever your heart desires.

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    3. :) LOL It's true, I guess Iam pretty low maintenance! I get no attention from the outside world besides the 5-15 mins I spend at the methadone clinic every morning, besides that, I dont leave the house :(

      :) I have never been on a cruise before! As long as it has an open bar iam sure ill have a blast! and my mama could use some R&R!

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    4. Exactly. Cruises are built for drunks, you didn't know that?

      Tell us which one you'll attend. Maybe Bahama's, short and sweet from where you are.

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    5. :) Bahamas would be perfect! Ive always wanted to go to Atlantis :)

      YOu make me wanna go on a cruise now :) lol

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  19. I'm having second thoughts on this woman's overriding diagnosis. Clearly she has developed a grandiosity about her singing ability but more than that her body language was beyond clumsy. I think she was high on the autism spectrum. At the end as she walked she made a realistic assessment and said that she can work as a hair dresser. One wonders if Eden had such delusions also before settling as a 'successful' hair dresser... Oh, well, I may be monica or NOT, and I accept there is a touch of malNarc in me against people who are not in my tribe.

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  20. Just curious as to how many "Monica's" there are here? I would like t see her blog link?

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  21. Wow, well that was a video. The woman is insulating herself with denial because her sense of self is dependent on it. She emphasizes consistently all the various praise she gets. Is she a narcissist? If she is she's pretty low-functioning but her little temper tantrum definitely reminded me of my Narc-Ex. Fail.

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  22. i remember an episode on millionaire matchmaker
    she got here money devorcing here ex-husband
    at a date she showed a video of here life

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  23. so was that american idol vid irony, parody or tragedy?

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  24. So, Rich... Monday came and left. What did you do about your new start promise on Monday? How is it going?

    I nominate you for the American Idle.

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    1. I smoked weed last night while I was drunk, I failed :( I suck at life and have no ambition or motivation :(

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    2. Rich seriously you make me laugh, in a good sense. Where is your pride, buddy? Oh well, what do you need pride for anyway. As a Spaniard reader, I usually find you Americans? around here quite naive, as it usually happens in real life. Even at your best, your abilities to laugh at yourselves are worringly limited, or so it seems to the spaniard in me. Rich is cute, accepts his faults and all he needs is a big hug. You need to move to Granada, amigo.

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  25. Monica:

    here is an excerpt that reminded me of you (and me, sadly):
    ".. But the insight for you is that your "narcissism" isn't a lack of empathy but the opposite: other people are all little brothers, ex-girlfriends, supporting cast, who are less able to make good decisions, so the world needs you to do it."

    here is the link to the site:http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/08/just_because_you_see_it_doesnt.html

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  26. I had the weirdest day. I called for an appointment for something and everything went totally the opposite of what I had requested and which was agreed on.

    It was like a comedy of errors that I thought God must have a message for me. It turned out that I got the service free. The lady was so nice and so welcoming, but I could not relax because I felt guilty that I did not deserve the service free.

    Well, I learned the lesson that I need to receive good things and feel I am worth it.

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    1. Wow Erin, I am continuously shocked that you're still around. Good grief.

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    2. Monica is here to stay... She is learning and she is collecting her own fan base. All she has to do afterwards is separate those who hate her from those who are undetermined.

      I wish you were here more often. How have you been? Have you been good to yourself?

      I read somewhere that BPD's core problem is fear of rejection. Any sense of rejection and they go into a rage. They also move between idealization and devaluation, back and forth. How typical are you in these regards? Do you agree? Do you have a sister who has already completely rejected you and took off from your life? I could learn so much from you, but I don't recall being open about family relationships. Maybe you were before I got here.

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    3. :) If ANYBODY is worth it, you are Monica! You are a fantastic person!!!!!!!


      :) Enjoy yourself! Let loose!

      I identify with Monica alot, maybe I have more Narcissistic traits than I think....... Or maybe empaths and narcissists make good friends? Iam not sure, but either way Monica is the ONLY reason I have stayed at SW, without you I'd be gone!!!!! But iam staying,for self discovery :)

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    4. Rich, I am the one who is kicking your ass (with good intentions). So as you said above you failed at your promise. Your biggest problem as you may have realized at some level is your parents. There is such a thing as learned hopelessness. Your family has done that for you. This typically happens in the name of encouragement and understanding, pretty much everything Monica has said to you so far. Someone in your family (possibly mom) is like Monica.

      What you heard early on (think up to 6) is how smart you are. They kept pumping you. Then eventually the school work conflicted with that pumping, and you never learned to move on w/o needing to be 'smart.' You stuck around people who kept calling you smart, you got stuck at home with your narcissistic family.

      The only way out is ta you accept that it's ok to work hard at menial jobs. I am sure your family would not like this at all, but go ahead and do this. Learn the joy of ending a physically hard day, learn the joy of doing something for someone else. Once you break the cocoon of narcs you are in (someone was suggesting you go volunteer, fuck that thought, you learn how hard it is to make money at this step) you may actually get into a clarity that can define a passionate direction in your life. Like I said before, you are operating in a narrowing window. Get out of that home, and your nice-vampire momma who keeps building your ego and keeps her baby at home under her control.

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    5. Good advice for everyone, HTFU.

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    6. Hi Big Sis. I'm not incredibly sure who you are as I haven't been around as much lately. Did you have a different handle previously?

      I've been doing relatively well. Extremely stressed out, but that's pretty standard. Coping better than usual, so that's positive.

      Rejection is a big trigger, part of what I do is to break the stigma that our only reactions are to rage. It depends on whether a person with BPD is more prone to Acting In or Out, and the kind of rejection they're experiencing.

      I do have a sister, but she's never rejected me. She used to be afraid of me, but she's not anymore. She's probably my best friend and the biggest support I have, we have, for each other. My family has stuck with me and we're all doing well in relationship to one another.

      I don't talk much about my family here. There's not much point. I talk about them a lot on my blog if you feel like checking that out though.

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    7. HTFU- Great post with great advice....... I just dont know what do to....... The only way I could get away is if I was homeless, plus my mother pays for my methadone treatment (and dosent want me off of it, she wants to keep me on methadone) how could I leave the house if all I have to look forward to is withdrawal from methadone and homelessness......

      I assume you meant learned helplessness right? But it also is learned hopelessness, for me at least......

      I have always been told I was extremely smart, but I dont think I am, I think I may be smarter than average, but I dont view myself as "smart" or an "intellectual". My mother told me I have been smart since I was a baby, she said when she would mtake me to the store and put me in the seat in the shopping cart, when we were don shopping I could and would point out every car and say the name/brand of it........ I have a very photographical memory, but probably just a little more than others.......

      I feel stuck in a rut, and I know the only way out is myself, but its like I just cant take that step on my own, I have nothing but my family and without them id be homeless and in withdrawal, who would want to feel like that?

      It sucks but you nailed it on the head, I have a narcissistic father. But we havent talked for 10 years and iam only 24.

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    8. PS- HTFU, thank you for the ass kicking with good intentions :)

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    9. You are so right, bro. You have nothing, and you can't take any steps on your own, because you have a shitty attitude, and like dude said up there, you've had your mommy holding your hand, enabling you, controlling you. Does she also tell you she doesn't know what she'd do without you, bro? Dude, you're such a bummer. The only thing holding you back is that bad attitude of yours, and your mommy.
      Oh yeah... and now you have Monica to help keep you down on her level. Pathetic.

      On the up side, you take criticism very well, so you might be able to climb past Monica's level in no time. Keep listening to people who are bold. No more cry babies, and delusional mommy types, man. Ok?

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  27. Big sister, I Think there was some very good info in the article, It's very difficult for anyone to understand my reality. Being misinformed is unfortunate because there is more involved here than what meets the eye or should I say ears. Half truths have been told.....on my end as well. Maybe it's time for the entire charade to drop. :(

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  28. You know...and I am sorry.

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    1. I am not sure. The sorry ones are Rich and Monica, which one are you?

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    2. Monica so I've been told

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  29. 1. Never come on and say you are the biggest, baddest sociopath there is. That will get the whole place on your ass a la Luke and the original Gungy

    2. Be humble and willing to learn

    3. Know that assholes don't define you, but they give you a chance to learn to ignore. Ignoring is as valuable as gold, in the outside world, so embrace the lesson.

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    1. :) LMAO... Keep ignoring, Monica. Like the woman in the video.

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    2. Sorry Big Sis
      I just got home. I will look at your link and thanks for the kind words! x

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    3. Very good advice...

      But I am the baddest mutha on the planet; lest U 4get.

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    4. i am the biggest, baddest sociopath there is!!!

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    5. Zoe, I eat little pieces of shit like you for breakfast...

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    6. wipe that shit eating grin gunge!

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    7. actually you should check out the butt photos on the forum... you'd like them :)

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  30. Does everyone here have a 9:30 bed time?

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  31. she's hilarious. more sociopath than narcissist. or maybe comedian? look at the expression on her face at the very end, after she sings the second time, when she gives a slight nod... looking very pleased with herself.

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  32. The Mal Narcissist
    The Mal Narc is an ugly distortion of a person. All PD's are a distortion of a person. All distortions are ugly. Let's face it.

    The Mal Narc must be right, more "right" than anyone. If you are related to a Mal Narc, they must be more "right" than you. They will tell you what you feel, how you think and what you perceive.

    They will tell you, not ask you. They feel entitled to take over you brain and body. If you the child of a Mal Narc, you were made to be there for them, in their minds.

    You were made to be their mirror, as in the classic story of Narcissus. You best be their Echo or they will make you pay. They will make you pay good, for the crime of wanting to mirror yourself.

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  33. Sometimes I think people take things much too seriously. Everything is cause for debate. Everything is cause for upset. But then again, why the hell not. It's fun to be contrary isn't it?

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  34. I just watched the video, and read some of the feedback from SW. You guys, I can't believe you think this woman's only problem is narcissism!!!! She goes way beyond a personality disorder with this delivery, from start to finish. If you study her body language and watch her facial expressions, it's clear that she is not only an eccentric personality, but also that there is some mental illness there that, while can't be clear by just watching a 6 minute video, can at least be identified as being way off in her cognitive abilities. Perhaps she is pre-schizophrenia. It's possible to not show full symptoms until later in adulthood. Whatever the illness is, she is not very bright, and clearly mental!!!!

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    1. True Schizophrenia is often triggered by an extreme life event. Something that tips the psyche over the edge.

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    2. are you guys serious? i can't tell

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    3. Why am I not surprised, Zoe?

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    4. because you know everything? :)

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    5. because you're more right than me? :(

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    6. because only YOU can tell me how i feel, how i think and what i perceive.

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    7. so umm are you guys serious or what?

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    8. My grandmother was schizophrenic. She seemed quite normal until she had a very traumatic even occur in her early 20's. That appeared to be the beginning of her schizophrenia, that lasted throughout her life time.

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    9. What are you going on about, Zoe?

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    10. @haven

      too bad about your grandmother. schizophrenia and trauma don't mix well.

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    11. No it's not, bro. It's 10:34.
      Snooch

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  35. Haven, question out of the blue.

    Were you 'beepers' on the forum?

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    1. no I meant 'beep beep'

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    2. I've never participated in the forums. I've only played out front here in the Comments.

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    3. good call.

      there were some unfortunate postings of butt photos... thank god i'm not pre-schizophrenic

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    4. I was traumatized by those butt photos. Now I'm a mute. I'm also blind, but that was before the butt photos.

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    5. Post-blindness pre-butt photos is what I'm saying.

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    6. but you still have your sense of touch!

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    7. And I'll never lose my sense of humor!!!!
      Cheeze!!!! :D

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  36. I am Rich the Uber Empath.

    I got you, Monica, as always.

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