Saturday, September 8, 2012

Sociopaths make friends

“We turned over the book together, and I endeavored to explain to him the purpose of the printing, and the meaning of a few pictures that were in it. Thus I soon engaged his interest; and from that we went to jabbering the best we could about the various outer sights to be seen in this famous town. Soon I proposed a social smoke; and producing his pouch and tomahawk, he quietly offered me a puff. And then we sat exchanging puffs from that wild pipe of his and keeping it regularly passing between us.

“If there yet lurked any ice of indifference towards me in the Pagan’s breast, this pleasant, genial smoke we had, soon thawed it out, and left us cronies. He seemed to take to me quite as naturally and unbiddenly as I to him; and when our smoke was over, he pressed his forehead against mine, clasped me around the waist, and said that henceforth we were married; meaning in the country’s phrase, that we were bosom friends; he would gladly die for me, if need should be. In a countryman, this sudden flame of friendship would have seemed far too premature, a thing to be much distrusted; but in the simple savage those old rules would not apply.”


-- from Melville's Moby Dick

I meet people every day who trust me from our first conversation forward. In the city, I meet three people a night on average who subject themselves to my whims with an enthusiasm unimaginable to me. This naivete and silliness, for obvious reasons, boosts my ego and sense of superiority. Not only does these people’s trust allow me complete control over them, but it destroys my respect for them and ironically makes it so that I would never really consider these people "friends." They have no idea what they might possibly subject themselves to when they hand a sociopath that kind of power over them. When empaths beg so hard to be used, how can anyone really resist?

And honestly, I will admit that I do resist. Not all of these people are useful anyways, so naturally you don’t always use them, but it isn’t because it’d be a difficult thing to do, I assure you. And when usefulness presents itself, I take it. Imagine salesmen put into this position. How many salesman have you put in this position of absolute trust because of a feeling you have that you can trust them? How many things have you easily been swayed and guided to buy because you felt a certain trust toward someone whose intention is to somehow gain a commission from you? Even in shopping malls, you’ve upgraded to certain cell phones because of the notable advantages of the more expensive model.

The cultural difference between savage and sophisticated in the passage from Moby Dick above can easily be used as a metaphor for the comparison of acting rationally versus acting emotionally, so for the sake of argument we’ll utilize such an advantageous comparison. Quequeg, the savage, illustrates a naivete to “the system” caused by his emotional dictation of his actions. He acts on a “gut feeling” when he accepts the author so willingly, having only known him for a day. The author’s thoughts preceding this are known, and show an indifference toward the savage, but also a civility, which was mistranslated by Quequeg’s emotions. Quequeg, following this new bond, proceeds to give the author half of his money and an embalmed head (one of his treasured possessions). The author even tries not to accept the gifts, but Quequeg forces them on him. Another beautiful illustration of empathic emotions making people do dumb things by refusing to consider logic. And again the idea of superiority is obviously pushed upon the functioning logical person because he's the one able to see such detrimental behavior for what it is.

If empaths could see their actions as being to their detriment, the idea of superiority would not come into play. But the sociopath seems isolated in his comprehension. In the above example, the characters struggle with language barriers and cultural differences, so the savage obviously hardly understands the man’s minute efforts to help him, and he translates them to friendship automatically. What sociopath has been offered such unconditional friendship to a smaller degree? And when having such opportunities consistently thrust upon you by people you do not respect, how do you continue to deny the uses these people present? The sociopath can hardly help who they are when people are so willing to subject themselves to their whims.

141 comments:

  1. Empaths are born losers. Their lives are a joke. Their thoughts are ridiculous. Born dumb suckers.

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    1. Really! And only miserable people hurt others. I feel sorry for you.

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    2. this blog is called /sociopath/world how much do you think people here care if you feel sorry for them or not?

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  2. This site glorifies murderers and rapists. How can you live with yourselves. You know you are the new ted bundys and you are bathing in your own indignities.

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  3. I know what your saying. Sometimes I'm happy. Sometimes I'm so angry I cry. Like I swing from one emotional tree to another. Its hard not knowing what's going on around me. I won't say I'm clueless I'm just confused a lot. But whatever!!!! LoL! ROFL! :(

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  4. This is ridiculous. Sociopaths making friends? Come on. You have no friends. You're not even human beings. Even dogs are man's best friends, so your less than dogs.
    If you guys listen up you might learn something, but you won't do that because you think you're so smart. I have news for you.

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  5. That's not me!!!!

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  6. Thunder Ball you're ridiculous. One day you're one thing the next you are somebody completely different. What a laugh. The only thing I wonder about your joke of a life is when it will drop the punchline.

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  7. We are all searching. It's the enigma of natural urges. To feel. To want to feel. Wanting in general is a feeling. So what else do sociopaths do? Shutdown. Become empty shells. Like peanuts after their being thrown on the floor of a underground strip club in mexico. Can peanuts be sociopaths? Can peanut butter? Can Peter Pan Peanut Butter?

    -Dr Whom

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  8. wow what is the world coming to when people need to pretend to be me and post stuff like the above instead of just commenting to me directly. At least i have the balls to say what i mean and mean what i say, without being an "anon" or changing my username repeatedly. To avoid facing the wrath if feathers are ruffled. I may be a lot of things lol (granted), but im no coward.
    Im so bored right now. zzzzzzzzzz
    If anybody also wishes to "pretend" to be me go ahead, im extremely flattered but there is only one Tinkerbelle (thank god lol)

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  9. Now back to the actual article. Friends. I always keep in the back of my head that a friend will sell you out if the price is right.
    Friendships are as easily broken as they are made. Jealously is usually the main cause as to why a friend will start to plot against you. Especially in women i find. And iv noticed amongst friends that the more "inferior" they feel about themselves the more "superior" they will try to act. Bizaare. Maybe its a self comfort thing?
    Oh and by the way readers. feel free to pull every sentence iv just written to pieces lol....Tinkerbelle your dumb....Tinkerbelle your ridiculous.....Oh Tinkerbelle Tinkerbelle Tinkerbelle!! Its getting orgasmic!
    Its sooooo nice to have fans!!! lol...big kisses and bless you all!
    (yes that was sarcasm incase anybody takes that post "seriously") :)

    And by the way Thunderball tell your dad i enjoyed sucking his cock last night ;) oooops!!

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  10. I figured I'd save you guys them time and type up your comments for you.
    Tinkerbelle your a joke. You and peter pan. Fairy tale dreams and irrational ideas. You sit there and giggle on some forum full of psychos to make yourself sound cute. Clearly you're a sociopath seeker. Wanting to be a victim. It's pathetic. Your comments are consistently a breath from retarded. It's like reading a teenage girls myspace.
    Peter Pan you are a fool. Fool arguments. Fool logic. Fool points. But the only person you fool is yourself. What kind of loser argues with sociopaths about morals and empathy. Clearly your life has finally become entirely empty and meaningless. You either never had a purpose or lost it some way down the road. You don't make points you just jibber jabber nonsense as a mental masturbation before you go to bed alone in never never land. You should use your imagination like the real Peter Pan and imagine you even matter. Of couse even Peter Pan himself couldn't imagine such a fantasy.

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  11. Thunderball sooooo rich coming from you!! lol (you are funny though)...shall i show you my tits to make you feel better...awwww, il even let you suck on them if your reaaaaallly nice to me!!
    Yep i do come on here to be retarded, and yep im a young girl. Big deal. So brownie points to you there then!!
    I admire all that fire you have in your stomach!! ggrrrr
    Im nobodys victim believe it or not, it doesn't matter to me either way. Calm down Thunderball!! Its a blog babe! This is cyber space!! None of us really know each other!! We all live in different countries around the world. Most of us come on the internet for a little surf, shopping and light entertainment. Why get so carried away?? As confused as you "think" i am. At least i don't make love to my computer!! lol. Names on a screen Thunderball....nothing more...nothing less.
    Don't let my stupidity "get" to you.

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  12. Why is it that every god damn site on the internet eventually gets filled to the brim with idiots and trolls? Admin this crap, M.E

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  13. Yeah M.e should admin the blog. But at the end of the day. Call me an "idiot" all you lot like. I actually do read the content, and i may not be as old as a lot of you or have p.h.d's sproating out of my ear holes, however im entitled to my opinion as much as the next person. Besides anytime i do type a half sensible answer it gets ripped apart anyway. The young dumb card is played. Fair enough, i have a silly personality. Doesn't make me uneducated.
    There are certain "self proclaimed" sociopaths on this blog who want to start telling everybody else they aren't one! (with what eveidence) So many "im superior" types who just want to drill it home to everybody that they are more educated. I come on here to read it. Not advertise to everyone that im better than the next comment or start a slanging match. Other commentators do however, then they get a stupid reponse from me because i don't take everything so seriously and it escalates from there.
    So if im the idiot what does it make the those who fuel it.

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  14. Dumb people have a right to opinions, but shouldn't be allowed to voice them. I won't stand by and watch you turn this blog into your own personal teenager's diary. Of course you don't have thoughts of superiority. How could you? Even you admit how retarded you are.
    Don't you notice nobody responds to your incoherent ramblings you call comments. They ignore it like a minor annoyance like everyone else does to you in your life. Your insignificant. Someone needs to drive this point home to you so you wake up out of never never land.
    I was not aware you also were a skank. I'm sure you serrve no purpose there as well.

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    1. follow your own advice and shut up!

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  15. The ‘normal’ as savage huh? Nice. lol Actually, I like it as an analogy.

    “And again the idea of superiority is obviously pushed upon the functioning logical person by being the one able to see such detrimental behavior…The sociopath can hardly help who they are when people are so willing to subject themselves to their whims.”

    I can see your overall point. There really is a reason we come off as arrogant when we say what we really think (which in my case, is relatively rare). The idiocy seems so patently obvious, even within the confines of their own rules, and yet they march blindly on. People in my offline world describe their latest ‘dramas’ to me and I dutifully pretend to care. I can see their issues before they see them (if they ever do) and I sit back and watch as they dig themselves deeper into holes of their own making. Then they turn to me for solace and a comforting ear. I sometimes marvel at the spectacle of it all. What are they willing to do just to hear a few ego gratifying words, words that confirm what they already wish to believe? How much would they give in exchange for a few well placed acts of kindness or compassion? Really, is it any wonder why people who can see all of this so clearly occasionally takes advantage of the absurd situation he finds himself in?

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  16. "What sociopath has been offered such unconditional friendship to a smaller degree? And when having such opportunities consistently thrust upon you by people you do not respect, how do you continue to deny the uses these people present?"

    Like lambs to the slaughter. Into my hand and out to lovefraud.com.

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  17. When empaths beg so hard to be used how can anyone really resist?

    They aren't begging to be used, silly. You know this, though. That's what YOU would look like if you were 'begging' to be used. They think they are getting something back from you. And they are. You're mirroring them. Providing something. They just think it's real, so what they give back is an even exchange.

    Because you don't understand where they are coming form, you over simplify them, and at the same time can underestimate them. If you really think they are begging to be used, then you are not seeing what they are seeing - you're evaluating them too much from your own value system. And this also means, that when they find out those beans AREN'T magic you will NOT be prepared for the wrath that they can hand down. Especially the crazy ones. The thing about empaths, they can win over sociopaths because when they really REALLY get the passion, the spark for revenge...they will sacrifice themselves to bring you down. And just as you crept up in their blind spot, a sociopath will NEVER see that coming. Especially FIRST. A blitz of self-destructive, self-defeating irrational attacks that may do as much harm to them as they do to you. On some level they know our blind spots too. Remember that. And put it in your code.

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    1. I am the empathy you just described -- and I have absolutely nothing to lose by bringing a sociopath down. Does that make me a sociopath? I think about that next victim; screw me and you may get away with it. Screw an innocent and I will bring you to your knees and you won't know what hit you because I, for a while, will let you think you're winning. Sociopaths make big mistakes when they underestimate a true empath. We can see and feel your lack of fear.

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  18. We are all searching. It's the enigma of natural urges. To feel. To want to feel. Wanting in general is a feeling. So what else do sociopaths do? Shutdown. Become empty shells.

    Is wanting a feeling? I always thought of it as an urge. The less sophisticated cousin of 'feeling'. It's what may come before a feeling, may lead to emotion...

    What we want and how we get it. Emotion is what some use to communicate their urges. Most people, in fact.

    I want. And I want to feel, but only so far as I know that then I'll have that secret language empaths have to communicate what they want, to give and be given...intimacy is their word for it.

    But anyway, I don't have that. So I skip the communicating and just take. Or maybe that's my language. Power. So that when I 'have', I only have what I want and there is a peace of sorts. It's as close to the feeling satisfaction as I suppose I'll ever get.

    I wonder do you really think sociopaths are empty? Do you feel empty?

    If you come across a well that is dry and come to know that it never produced water...isn't it silly to still refer to it as a well? Why, it's just a hole. And to call it an empty hole is rather redundant, isn't it? You would only notice it were empty if at one time it was filled with something, only then would it need to be qualified. And that's what I don't understand about the word 'empty'. The attached quality. And the tragedy that seems to follow at it's occurrence.

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    1. Sarah of 2009 makes distinct points, and rises above the crowd like Birdick. I find it difficult to believe that Birdick has left the scene completely.

      Does anyone remember when his last posts were?

      I got the feeling his 2009 posts were much more curious and open, whereas 2011 posts were more along the lines of UKan. Maybe he was embracing his conclusions about his identity by 2011.

      I wish both Sarah and Birdick were still around, somehow brainy types have gone quiet.

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  19. So if im the idiot what does it make the those who fuel it.

    Wasn't so sure if you had sociopathic tendencies or not until you made this comment. Bravo.

    That seems to be the generic sociopathic response to being called an idiot. We gloss over the fact that you called us an idiot, because we have our own opinion of ourselves, and note or point out that the person listening is someone that apparently will still listen to someone even if they think they are idiots.

    Why??? It's one of those things that don't offend sociopaths, so much as it exposes an unusual, contrary and unproductive pattern that probably reveals an emotional vulnerability suitable to exploit.

    Then we stamp SUCKER across their forehead so that every door to door salesman or Scientologist knows who to target first.

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  20. I can see their issues before they see them (if they ever do)

    Your arrogance comes from confusing insight with wisdom. I used to do that. The difference is, for all that you can see, the clear pathology so obvious to you and not others, it is not useful. The white elephant in your backyard. In order to impact their situation, to really 'help' them, you need to communicate what you see on an emotional level for them to really listen and understand. Speak their language. But you can't do that. So when you see their comfort and gratitude you have to understand that it is as artificial as the emotion you mirrored to draw it out. It will not last for them. We aren't the only ones who take to wearing masks.

    It's not as though you made the clever choice to provide them with an artificial comfort to receive a certain response. You have no authentic comfort to offer. Not much of a choice between artificial or nothing. Or at least, the choice of 'nothing' would be supremely stupid. So, basically, and I mean no offense, just objectively all you proved is that you are not supremely stupid.

    I only point this out because it was important for me in my development to understand and evaluate myself objectively. I made less mistakes, it actually does help you be more manipulative and cunning (if that's your game) and it's the last step to accepting that you are different, and can be superior, but not by default. Most sociopaths think they are superior, but only some are correct.

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  21. Sarah, I’m not sure what your point was. If you’re trying to say that my previous comment proves nothing more than I’m not stupid, then ok, fair enough. I can accept that. If you’re saying that I am at this point incapable of steering the people in my offline circle towards ends that I think would be more productive for them, then I completely agree. When it comes to their personal dramas, I’ve taken a hands off approach because I quite honestly don’t know how to deal with it in any other way that’s effective. I learned the hard way that just telling them where I see them heading only engenders needless disagreement and probably a little resentment, so I play the role of “good listener” and leave it at that. And yes, I acknowledge that beyond merely letting them talk and mirroring them as best I can, I’m no good at offering in depth comfort.

    Your last paragraph leads me to believe that you might have been making a larger point however, and I can’t see it clearly. School me mistress.

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  22. DB:

    I have the tendency to provide information and deliberately not drive the point home. Kinda cunty. Maybe it's because if someone draws a conclusion for me, I trust it much less than if I had come upon it myself...but that's how most people are. And if I need someone to accept something as their own idea and not mine (for naughty reasons, sometimes, but not always) I always set it up to try and lead them to it, and come to the same conclusion I want them to, but to own it as theres. It sticks better that way. I've trademarked it as the Sociopathic Socratic method. I'm going on the road with it alongside Mystery the Pick up Artist.

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    1. It also helps to tell stories about "people" sort of like the people involved, in "situations" sort of like the situations involved, solved the way you see best. All within earshot of the person you want to influence, but not directly. Works great.

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  23. Sarah, at your service, with the larger point

    I liked that you saw the savage as the 'normal' and found it ironic, as I do. It seemed to be the first time you ever thought it could be seen that way, so new perspective learned - a plus. But you stopped there. And saw only the influence of the old man, over the savage. And you related this to the sociopath's ability in general to gain attachment without giving it. And your work examples were your own and I was trying to use them and let you expand on that. I don't have anything else.

    So we both seem to conclude that what you offer people isn't real. And you kind of got my point and agreed that when you see things from only your perspective of choices they are usually 'nothing' and 'not supremely stupid'. As far as the latter is concerned, my point was that once you see that if your only going on what you've got, you're not exactly proving to be an Einstein and you never will. Right now your choosing 'not stupid', to get through the moment...the moment's pay off and price. Frankly, they are getting a better deal than you. You have to figure out how to have other choices. That's something you really will have to find yourself. I can't tell you. I don't know your life and how I came about it will be fundamentally different because I'm a woman. We have different resources and really do walk in different worlds.

    But back to the savage and the old man. I've been trying to drive this home when I responded to a specific quote in M.e.'s post.

    M.e. and most sociopaths once awakened see this as a triumph of intelligence over a moral code, an old man against a warrior and the old man, seemingly effortlessly, has the warrior wrapped around his little finger. Men in particular are lulled by this power. I read this and I think, run. Too much risk not enough pay off. And a shout out to all male sociohomies, this is how you end up in prison or in big trouble when that sexy savage little girl turns on you after two weeks.

    First. You're an old man. He's a savage. He loves you impulsively, he'll hate you impulsively. And then you're dead because that's how he hates. If he chooses to attack, you will lose. The attachment is too strong. You don't need that much. You need a fraction of that. That much attachment and submission that quickly is too risky. It shows passion and not loyalty. You want loyalty, which is a slower attachment. The gifts. Empaths are reciprocal. What they give represents what they want and it's a good indication of how much they will take from you if scorned and nuts. The savage gives him his prized possessions and his 'life'. Gulp. So he's go a head that he doesn't want and a stalker savage on his tail. That's a shit-ton of risk to bear to bum a lousy smoke.

    My point is: There always must be a point to the power. Don't draw someone in unless you know what you are going to do with them. There's nothing unpredictable and risky about buying your own cigs. And I know the examples you gave weren't on the scale of the blog post or the novel passage, but the subtext was that you were relating to the post, which I thought unintentionally illustrated the weakness I see in sociopath's, especially men, that gets them in trouble. I don't want you to relate to it. Maybe it's the testosterone. Feeds on power. And women sociopaths, through the evolutionary need of mate selection, are more target driven. I dunno. But the prison system don't lie. Male sociopaths have got to learn to pick better targets. (tongue in cheek, a lil bit).

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  24. Daniel Birdick

    And since that post was so effing long here's the executive summery:

    To win, you must become as detached to the power as you are everything else.

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  25. So Sarah, what you seem to be saying is that what we testosterone drenched socio’s were identifying with in the Ishmael/Queequeg passage above demonstrates what you see as an unfortunate tendency among male sociopaths: we attach to and revel in the power we can have over normals without understanding the accompanying risks. The arrogant and celebratory tone that we took when we responded to the post reveals to you that we fail to appreciate just how dangerous the normal can be in their own way. If we don’t have a specific and well considered purpose for toying with the normals affections, we might find ourselves playing with fire and getting burned. If that's what you're saying, then I think you're right.

    Now, onto what I think is your other, larger point. I'll go about it in a slightly round about way by starting off with this: I do lose and the normals in my life win, at least in one sense. I’ve been focused on figuring myself out for a while now. It took a long time to appropriate this label as a self descriptor because I too fell for the “if you aren’t a Ted Bundy in the making then you aren’t a sociopath” myth. It wasn’t until I finally realized that I’ve never known what guilt was because I’ve never experienced it that it hit me. That and a few other things based on my research.

    In the meantime, while I was exploring, I got used to playing the role of a kindly, if a bit snarky, nice guy. It seemed an easy way to get thru the day while not causing myself needless drama, freeing me up to 'search my soul' in relative peace. The normals get their free listener and I get left alone. That was me “not being stupid”. It worked, but yeah, they get their listener while I get zip and it’s become boring as hell. I’ve been trying to figure out what purpose I wish to give myself. I’ve had a few email discussions about this with M.E. that have also been helpful. I’m fairly certain that I want to play a challenging game and I’ve narrowed the options down to a few. I think this is what you were referring to when you mentioned that I was choosing between nothing and not stupid, which as I’ve said, hasn’t been much a win for me. I think you’re saying that if I’m going to play this or any role then at the very least I should make it worth my while, especially considering the fact that I don’t actually offer my normals anything real anyway, and that I should be mindful of how I do it, lest I get burned.

    Have I interpreted you accurately? If not, well I’ll just have to bend over and take my punishment like a good boy. ;-)

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  26. Sarah, you can't be serious about that well bit. Birdick, you can't possibly be taking it seriously.
    Please tell me you two are just trying to fuck with each other and looking stupid in the process.
    Please, please, please.

    "This electrical cable has never been plugged in. Is it still an electrical cable? No, it's just a string. Is it fair to say that a string has no electrical current? No, because strings don't carry electrical currents by definition. It's redundant. I don't see why people say that electrical cables that aren't plugged in have no electrical current. It doesn't make any sense to me."

    Oh-my-god. Reallynow? Seriously? Please tell me one or both of you are fucking with the other.
    Please please please.

    I think I'm going to shit myself, and then claim it isn't shit because it didn't land in the toilet, and obviously anything that doesn't land in the toilet or in a cup shared by two girls couldn't possibly be shit. Please, don't subject me to that. I like my reality just the way it is: concrete and rational. Fuck all this verbal voodoo. Burn the witch!

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  27. "if your only going on what you've got, you're not exactly proving to be an Einstein and you never will."
    WERD!

    I suppose if the well/cable was alive and never had any water/juice, it wouldn't know the difference, but in either case it's still just an empty/dead well/wire. It doesn't really matter how you slice and dice it or philosophize it, in the "big picture" that you're all so fond of mentioning, that's just the way it is. It all boils down to the limitations of a restricted subjective experience, sort of like how a shaman thinks he makes it rain by dancing, because he dances every fuckin' day 'til it rains. That comparison is a stretch, I'll admit, but I think you'll get the idea so long as your egos don't get in the way.

    As for the latter posts by Sarah and Daniel... I wholeheartedly agree. You hear that? I'm not trying to rip into you for shit that's real.

    Fo realz, yo.

    Maybe it's my approach. Am I too abrasive? Fuck it.

    Peace out.

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  28. Love is the greatest feeling in the world : ) but guess you will never know what you missing out on : ( I would try and feel sorry for you, but would rather not waste my time..... God Bless... Raven C

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    1. hold your son in your arms and know that what you feel i can never feel. Than try to imagine annything wors.
      Even when i say this and knowing it's true it does me nothing.

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  29. My boyfriend has a small penis and got a bit fatter, I want to dump him for brian he's the captain of the football team!!!! OMG he's soooooo hot...sooo cool *giggles*

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    1. OKAY IM THE FIRST FOR THE DATE IT WAS POSTED :D

      Anyway, M.E., what do you mean by them trusting you? Are you randomly pretending to be friendly with people? That's a bit different from, say, getting someone to give you large amounts of money off the bat. They're not thinking "oh this guy is probably just pretending to be my friend for...(?)"; they experience plenty of genuine at the club and lots of people are friendly. Now.. the money example, that's different.

      You need to give examples or else I might dismiss it as just you not really giving things enough thought.

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  30. This has to be one of the stupidest posts I've seen you do. I can't believe you actually resurrected it. Three years later and you're none the wiser.

    You're comparing a sociopath's opportunistic and pathological deceit to the traditional human experience of bonding and friendship - weighing the two simultaneously as if they should even be compared.

    If you could get over yourself for one second and realize that you're the one missing out in the equation, you wouldn't be making long-winded speeches about the stupidity and irrational behavior of seeking friendship.

    You're not some diabolical dictator constantly thwarting assassins. You're a schmuk who works nine to five like nearly everyone else in the West. Please, regale us more on how you constantly use your made believe minions.

    All those posts about how you waste so much time twisting people's heart strings, and how you get mad when you can't seduce your marks is in stark contrast to this ridiculous diatribe you've posted about how you're above it all.

    You're a fucking joke, and a hack.

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    1. What's the point in harping on at him about how you don't like his behavior (which is obviously what it's about)? He's not going to understand exactly why you have a problem with it, you're just going to look like a stupid moral hypocrite. And you're kinda exaggerating and dramatizing his post.
      Not just sociopaths, I think anyone could try to do this to see if people would buy their act. It's not he's claiming he did some huge feat. I really don't know why you're on this blog. I'm sure you've got a problem with most of his posts. If this was a community forum you'd be banned from the aspd section.
      He did say that he has actual friends whose company he just enjoys, but you seem to think psychopaths are incapable of just hanging out and that they can't have actual friends. You're just an ignorant person from a land of sociopath stereotypes.
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    2. A part I haven't even seen btw- I mean the stereotype. That they can't actually want real friends. rofl.

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    3. What's the point in making assumptions and wasting my time?

      I didn't bring up morals. I didn't bring up his friends (or lack thereof). I didn't claim he had did or did not accomplish any great feats.

      In fact, from the looks of it, you didn't even read his post.

      So do me a solid and shut the fuck up and start actually paying attention.

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    4. What happened TNP? Did M.E. hurt your feelings some time recently? Did he not care that you were/are sick?

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    5. Did someone try to teach aspie how to bait people while I was gone? I'm almost impressed.

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    6. do you feel baited tnp? why?

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    7. Aspie's been really pissy lately. And he used to be so nice.

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    8. Has his playlist improved at least?

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    9. I've always been a little pissy Medusa. TNP just seems so pretentious and un-sociopath like that I can't help but say something.

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    10. I never clicked on those links.

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    11. Oh so he's not in the cool club anymore aspie?

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    12. If I bait the baiter, does that make me the masterbaiter?

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    13. Medusa said:

      "I never clicked on those links."

      You're a liar because you commented on them. For example, you liked the King Krimson ones.

      Cool club? I always thought he was someone trying to be something he is not - a 'path. But he does it so poorly as to be laughable.

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    14. TNP, were you trying to bait someone into pointing out your pain?

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    15. Btw, regarding whatever illness you have or had, I hope you are doing ok.

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    16. TNP, I did read the post. And you do seem angry, like Monica says. I'm glad you didn't assume that he doesn't have actual friends, though. It still doesn't explain your hostile approach to the blog. From what you said, I think you got annoyed, misunderstood his tone, and stopped reading partially through. I read all of the blog post though.

      I think one thing that got you mad was the "begging to be manipulated" part. It seems you took that as "empaths are lame weak sauce." I don't think he was trying to go "Sociopaths are superior and empaths are generally so weak!" especially since he seems to differentiate between the empaths (or sociopaths? hey... can't assume) he can fool, and the empaths that he would befriend and respect.

      It also doesn't matter if he's a sociopath. Empaths have spoken about this too. Instead of saying foolish empath, they just said stupid people, or the stupid parts of humanity.

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  31. M.E.!!!!! Will you please come back from your hiatus!?!

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    1. He's on a hiatus? :( Yeah, come back, M.E. You never answer my twitter posts. I'm the only one that adds to your updates. Are the others even paying attention? D:

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    2. "Woe is me", says the attention whore. Defending him like a lost puppy dog that can't find its master and doesn't even realize he was left on the side of the road for a reason. You fucking imbecile.

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    3. tnp you sound hurt, did you meet M.E. to make love and he asked you to wash up or something?

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    4. LOL... that sounds kind of hot.

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    5. Wow, you must be really mad at me, TNP. You call what I said "defending him" like a lost puppy follower. When did I say I was actually that fond of him? I was of course joking about the frown and what not. Why are you being so hostile towards me just because I'm not on your hate-M.E. team? What's the point in being here if you're going to slam him and anyone that doesn't slam him with you? Why not just move on to a blog trashing sociopaths or something? lovefraud.com is a place you can start. It doesn't inherently trash *them*, just ones who commit love fraud.

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  32. Oh, god. This guy Tag Y is a straight edge, teenage Libertarian poet. I rest my case.

    Thanks for sharing your speech should you ever become president. It was enthralling~. Nothing like transitioning from a shitty poem about how you're sorry for hurting your boyfriend's feelings, to being under 20 and claiming you know anything about anything. Is Ron Paul's site your home page, or DeviantArt's poetry section? I'm not sure what would be more damning.

    Only on SW.

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    1. Oh, this I gotta hear. Is he diddling his twelve year old nephew on the side? That's a minimum +1000 sociopath points~.

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    2. TNP, the drunkopath

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    3. It's the rat scurrying all over the forum. Too much rat poop everywhere to sift through, though.

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    4. This kid, Dale Craft, is Bakk? And does SW actually have active forums now, or is it full of banned rejects from the Psyche Forums? Reminds me of that one gal bragging about strangling her daughter's cat... Pretty hardcore~.

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    5. The rat brought a few PF people with him, but I suspect they will be gone soon enough. It's a temporary thing.

      Vegitopath's job is to clear out the raff every once in a while, I guess.

      The forum is more active than the comments these days, on average. Depends on whether you prefer theory or practice.

      But, you did miss a lot, especially recently.

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    6. I'd love a brief synopsis.

      Also:

      What's with the neckless lesbian in Monica's profile picture? That deserves some answers at the very least.

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    7. Tag/WL/Bakk/crystal richardson,is a baby raping ladyboy who roleplays as a teenage girl online in order to get the attention of kids and other pedophiles. It's disgusting and pathetic really the way it can only validate itself by seeking out constant abuse. It actively encourages it to the point of actually begging.

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    8. Ha ha ha neckless lesbian. And he's back.

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    9. Oh wow Ellicit, you even go on the blog to bother me and spread rumors? I'm on Sociopath World to find children? Really? Fuck off. You only say I "ask for" your abuse so that people pay attention to that and you don't look bad being so obsessed with doing it. You're still a salty DHB.

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      TNP, if you want proof or something, I'll give you some. I don't have a reason to be paranoid of you, and you're clearly an empath.

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    10. TNP, what does being under 20 have to do with anything? There was nothing poetic or speechy about what I said. YOURS was full of anger and passion though. I just think it's pointless for you to be here. Am I wrong about you inherently disliking sociopaths? Also, can you stop calling me a guy? Thanks sweetie.

      Anyway, again with the age shit. Age means just about nothing, TNP. Being an adult means nothing when you're talking about non-fiction. Non-fiction information requires you educate yourself on it. I don't care if you're an adult. Loads of adults just have stereotypes about a lot of disorders, and don't really know what they're talking about.

      You don't magically get an encyclopedia of the world just because you're an adult. You shouldn't be trusted more to know information (besides info about jobs and living and all of that), just because of your age.

      So basically that was a bunch of random crap you pulled out of your butt (taken from teenage stereotypes, of course xD... that wasn't very nice :p) about me, twisting the tone and intent of what I said, and then some shit about how since you're older than me you know everything and are obviously superior.

      Also, have you been stalking my posts or something without replying?

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    11. Stay within a decade's time, when you can't try to make an age argument. I'll be an adult, and I'll have the same opinions on things :)

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    12. Oh geez, I just read more shit. You mention psych forums rejects? The people you're gossipping with like an immature high schooler about me, at least one is a psych forums reject who got banned.

      I also love how you assume I'm a sociopath, and mention some kind of sociopathic behavior. It just supports that you're here because you don't like them and want to make a bunch of rage comments (written in a cool, "I pwn you sociopaths!" tone, but it's still the same thing). No, I'm not a sociopath sweetie. I have empathy. And I'm not selective with my empathy, like you.

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    13. Ooh. Look out, TNP. He's going to try to lure you to tiny chat now where he will use his voice morphing software to PROVE he's a teen girl. But no cam!!

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    14. Okay, first it was a cheap app. Now voice morphing software? Like I would spend money on you fucks? If Chris is so open about what he is and what he thinks, (and he's still posting on psychforums without people shunning him every 5 seconds), why come here and pretend like he's not him?

      I'm not Chris, so stop trying to spread rumors, and get over yourself. All you do here is talk about me. What do you want, lesbian sex? It's creepy.

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    15. And no, I was going to show him more than TC and voice. Perhaps in exchange for a secret of his, for security, since he seems to want to team up with you guys... I thought he was a random empath commenter, but now he wants to dip into it, it seems. So he might just take what I give him and post it everywhere.

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    16. Hmm, what's he talking about above? I missed the Libertarian part. I don't remember being affiliated with any party, but does this mean he's an extreme conservative? They're usually the ones quick to jump at any hint someone is a Libertarian (or what they think is one...) o.O dA? What is he, stalking me? So I wrote a few poems a long time ago, so what? You're so eager to label me, TNP. Not that I think writing poems is anything to insult someone with. I really don't get what your deal is now. Think of poems as prose-writing, just different. Don't try to shame anyone out of writing.

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    17. Hey TNP, where'd you go? sorry for all the replies, I didn't read all of what you said first. You blow up at me, make some kind of "about tag Y section" of the blog, and then you're not here when I reply. I'm waiting for you to return, hopefully without a bunch of insults, age-stereotyping, and hostility. I did admit I was mistaken about something.

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    18. I've seen less bullshit and assumptions in an episode of The O'Rielly Factor. You're a joke, kid, and you don't know anything.

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  33. I love this post. I can see it. Quequeg is the epitome of a mindless sheep aspiring for greatness by clinging to a leader. Conservatives in the us remind me of this as well.

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    1. I can't believe they don't believe in global warming.

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    2. Your statement sounds just like something a U.S. conservative would say.

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    3. conservative ?
      perish the thought

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    4. ofc if you have only 2 parties
      i pick the winners if i wanne win and the losers if i wanne pick a fight

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  34. How many things have you easily been swayed and guided to buy because you felt a certain trust toward someone who’s intention is to somehow gain a commission from you?

    None.

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  35. One thing I've noticed with the older posts (btw I think it would be a little more semi-coherent if you pre-faced these earlier posts with some statement indicating that it is an earlier post) is that the commenters were a lot more interesting and insightful. The sociopaths made some interesting arguments and the "empaths" were quick to call on some of the bullshit. Now it's just a wasteland of, for the most part, role oriented self assured boring uninteresting people.

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    1. And also the blog commenting system blows.

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    2. we applaud constructive criticism
      tnx for your insight on great one

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    3. Aspie, I'm starting to get tired of you.

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    4. wasn't breivik suspected of asperger + npd?

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    6. Medusa, I could care less what a path-hag thinks.

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    7. Aspie
      You are very annoying

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    8. The "empaths" who were calling on bullshit were just a bunch of ignorant people who don't really know what M.E. is but like to pretend to know, and really shouldn't have been here in the first place if they were going to be bitter about what M.E. is.

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    9. Real empaths face the truth and accept it! They also apologize if wrong! *pounds on chest* Real Empath Pride! REP! Those other ones are weak sauce!

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    10. hey medusa, sorry If I was a little nasty with you earlier, hope you are having a good day

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  36. this site has the worst comment section

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  37. My question for the old articles is if ME still feels the same as he/she did then?

    I find that to be my most pressing question, as I read the older posts.

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  38. I don't know. I found this site a couple of weeks ago and thought it would be good for my own self-understanding and personal projects, exploring and comparing my thoughts with other sociopaths. Sometimes the topics are pretty good then other times it can be extremely sophmoric... especially the comment section. I guess I should just accept the good with the bad and take whatever useful information I can get.

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  39. i want on a rampage to understand myself (woot still not in jail)
    now that is a plan

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  40. Well, say your goodbyes gracefully guys.....I am signing off! What a journey this has been. Unprocessed pain caused me to abandon myself completely. I cannot continue to hold anyone except ME (haha) responsible. I cannot blame, hide, nor run from my shame and fear any longer. your article is somewhat confusing to a person who truly believes in the good of people. I think somebody asking me to trust them with money/children or valuables in the moment of meeting would be extremely foolish, but friendship? I wasn't on my guard for a feigned friendship? I am sincere in My approach to things.....does that make me a sheep? i don't expect trickery when I meet people?.....does that make me unable to use logic? These things you claim are projected jealousy for what you do not posess. I admit, sociopathy has its perks, but for me, I will find my way back to love and laughter and true friendships because after a year in darkness, I realize what your world must feel like.....But then I remember, you don't feel in terms of how I feel, so we can never truly understand one another, but we can learn from pain and realize how deep darkness can be, we can choose light....I am far from healing, but determined to walk away knowing I will never understand this completely....and I am ok with that. I hope you find happiness....whatever happiness is to you.

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    1. Peace be with you!

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    2. This connects to my post, it's kind of what I was saying. I asked M.E. if he meant just people believing they were friends, or if he tricked them by pretending to be friends and got something out of it, like money, etc. I'm not sure. But if he means friendship, I agree with you. It's not dumb to not think of someone randomly pretending to be friends with you for no reason- plenty of people are actually friendly.

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    3. Please remove yourself from me......and likewise. It's over.

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  41. Obama shares his muslim faith:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzYht=28

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  42. The epilogue to my Mal Narc story:

    I knifed her and stuffer her in the incinerator.

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    1. your mal narc story is a lie.

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    2. I'll bite. What Mal Narc story?

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    3. LOL I told my whole Mal Narc story these last few days. Hi Eden-my stalker :P

      To summarize, I put up with the Mal Narc niggling me for several years and then she threatened me and I knifed her. I did not cut off her head, the first time, so I went back for the kill.

      Then, I learned several lessons, many courtesy of SW.
      My lessons:

      1. Stand up for who you are
      2. Be nice, but when attacked, fight back, to the death, if need be (figuratively ~)
      3. If someone is playing with you ( a la being nice and being a jerk and being nice etc etc) cut them off and don't trust them the next time they pull that horse excrement.
      4. Be strong. In life, you can be strong or be a wimp. You are gonna be hated and loved, no matter which you do, so you may as well respect yourself by being strong.
      5. You are alone. You may as well like your own company as there is no escaping it~

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  43. What Mal Narc story?

    Stuffer? Really?

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  44. there's no mal narc, it's all a lie. everything she types is a lie, don't trust nothing she says.

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  45. This is getting ridiculous. every whim, do your bidding...

    it sounds like you're being nice to people and they might buy you a drink or do you a favor or something like that but every whim and doing your bidding is outright bullshit. Or its the bartender or other employee that works for tips.

    Tone down your self-stroking bs. its getting out of hand.

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  46. I never paid attention but Monica only speaks about herself, she doesn't care about anyone else on here. She's as rotten as everyone on here.

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    1. Get a life, Eden. Who is she supposed to speak about? The Pope?

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    2. Haha!

      Monica why do you call yourself 'she'?

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    3. Eden, I am going to come and get you. Where do you live?

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    4. Frank now...

      Seriously what's up with you? Why aren't you in a mental institution? It's scary society allows individuals like you to walk on the sidewalk. Rotten cunt.

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    5. Are you nice or nasty, Eden? It is hard to keep up. I guess I am not 12 people, so I wouldn't know~

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  47. Reading Medusa's story about her best friend was interesting. She reminded me a lot of a girl in high school. I'm a bit late about it, but still. She was using and abusing a friend of mine, a sensitive, very intelligent girl. I liked her a lot, she was very loyal and never betrayed me once. She's one of the few I trusted. Now, she talked to me about her friend, about how she'd face her with some of her actions, and then denied it to her face, gaslighted, deflected, etc. Now at first I thought she knew she was doing it, but the worst about all this, is that she really believed her delusions, she didn't know what she was doing. She'd make everyone around her suffer, without knowing what the hell she did, and then projected all accusations. She was a fucking drama queen, calling my friend for hours and hours, talking about how people were monsters, selfish beings. And a friend of hers killed herself, too. These people aren't relationship material, they're insane. I finally got my friend to close all contacts with her after a year of getting used, getting her boyfriends stolen. So thanks Medusa, for writing it.

    That's what you are, Monica. A crazy cunt. Don't talk about your progress on here, there were none and never will be. There's no hope for people like you. You want to know how to heal your PD? My advice still stands, grab a gun, and shoot yourself in the frontal lobe. That's 'how to heal a PD'. All your stories are a fucking lie, and you keep lying to yourself and everyone around you. I haven't seen you face anything once on here. Think about your future, and think about how you'll die a very sad old woman. If your son's story is true, I'm glad he offed himself. Having an extremely delusional being as a parent is the worst thing you could wish for.

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    1. you're not better than them

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    2. Glad to be of help, Extremity. But I'm wondering if the massive display of cognitive dissonance in your comment is on purpose?

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    3. I don't know what that means, english isn't my first language. Explain, please.

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    4. There's a whole website for such things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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  48. make friends online, You might want to be an Au pair or maybe just Au-share. It is about giving someone a tour of the place you call home and making friends for life! Maybe you just want to discuss your city and share photos of where you call home. Whatever you want to do its about sharing the world and loving it.

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  49. Sociopaths/narcissists, etc. are simply people that have not matured enough. Something happened that caused their brain to stop growing in a normal way.

    So essentially, they're brain damaged. They'll never experience what it means to be alive. Don't get mad, pity them.

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    1. I refuse to pity them since they have no pity for anyone. Besides, all pity does is make them take advantage of their victims,

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  50. well, even a normal rational have empathy. you shouldn't separate people into empaths and rationals because rationalists have empathy too. you sociopaths are not even rationals because you have a strong FE function and such function allows you to sense other people's feelings and then charm them. you're not rationals, you're feelers according to typology , dumbass...

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