Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Married to BPD (part 2)

My response:

I don't really know that much about BPD. I've never met anyone in person who is BPD, just the people who write in to me or comment on the blog. It seems to be a real thing, even if all we're really saying is that there are people similar enough to each other that it makes sense to give them all a similar label.

Still, I think that quite a few female sociopaths might get misdiagnosed BPD when sociopathy would fit better. I think that may be due to a gender bias of both the criterion and the people doing the diagnosing. I also think that because there is really not a diagnosis of "sociopath" right now, your only other option is ASPD and a lot of female sociopaths don't seem to rise to the level of aggression and acting out that ASPD requires, so they get shuttled into a BPD diagnosis.

If your wife is actually a sociopath and not BPD, I do think there are ways that she can love you. She is probably already attached to you, and as you become more of a fixture in her life she will become even more attached. If it helps you to avoid power struggles, you can just tell yourself that when she provokes you, she is doing so expecting to get a rise out of you. The sociopath in you should know that it would actually be a better tactic to avoid confrontation and wait around until a better moment to strike, on your terms not hers.

395 comments:

  1. This I think is more realistic post than yesterday. The DSM-iv doesn't really acknowledge that "sociopaths" or "psychopaths" even exist, and ASPD is not really the same thing. So many individuals might get misdiagnosed borderlines, histrionics, mal narcs etc. when sociopath would be a better fit. The DSM-iv looks people from the point of their behavior but pretty much ignores their internal life. So it is hard to get the ASPD label unless you are a career criminal, and conversely most career criminals really are not sociopaths.

    That said, if you have met both borderlines and sociopaths you would never mix the two up, they are light years apart of each other even though both might engage in similar behaviors at times. But the motivations behind those behaviors are completely different.

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  2. I keep trying to nail down what actually is the definition of sociopath and psychopath. I finally read something that made sense. It basically said that the words are used very loosley, with varying definitions and sometims interchangeably. So no wonder there is ocnfusion abotu what a sociopath actually is. The same article, I can't rememeber who by, said that the difference in their mind is that psychopaths are born and sociopaths are created. Psychopaths are cold cool and calculating, sociopaths are less organized and have the ability to empathize with those close to them.

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  3. P.S. But I agree, Borderline is very different.

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  5. "You keep on trying to picture me as someone who was abused, suffered"

    Well it's not very hard to picture that seeing as it's what you told us. You've said that you feel depressed, lonely, and suicidal. You have to take pills and drink yourself into a stuper just to function and you've admitted that you've been damaged psychologically from your experience's. I'm not making this up, these are things you've said. Deleting your comments doesn't delete the memory of them. Your life is more of a wreck than any of your "victims". Am I supposed to be impressed that you spent 5 or so years doing things you hated for some money which you've already pissed away? You're a willing victim. If I couldn't get a grip on you I wouldn't bother with any of this. You've been a victim since the very first day you came here. You've been made to look a fool and have been walked over by everyone. Keep telling yourself that you're in control just like you do in real life, everyone else can see the truth and they'r laughing at you.

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  6. "and by you I mean you and your different nicknames, but single character"

    Oh wow, you cracked it Dave. How did you figure out my master plan?

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  8. "*Ofcourse some psychological damage was done through the years doing what I do, that's the price you pay, does that make me into a wreck as you like to portray me?"

    But why would it if sex is just business, you were never abused and you don't care about other people's opinions of you? You're contradicting yourself.

    "What's the price you paid for spending years in prison and putting knifes up your arse to survive? But then again I wouldn't want your macho made up image to get damaged ..."

    Yeah UKan and I are the same person and I'm also MK. Don't even get me started on all my other characters. How did you work it all out David?

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  9. "does that make me into a wreck as you like to portray me?"

    No. You're life as an alcoholic, suicidal prostitute sounds fantastic. ~

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  10. @Kat

    //psychopaths are born and sociopaths are created. Psychopaths are cold cool and calculating, sociopaths are less organized and have the ability to empathize with those close to them.//

    I was diagnosed a secondary psychopath, and to some extent was "created". I fit the cold, cool, calculating parts...perhaps a few other traits people despise me for (sigh) but I am close to family, and have a love for them, social emotions you could say, though I know they are watered down from how I see others respond.

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  11. Lots of ad homs. Call me names if it makes anyone feel better. I promise not to cry.

    So what is everyone doing today ?


    Touching on what David had mentioned... about multiple accounts from people on here. Yes, there are a few. Two that I have detected to date. One individual has 3 accounts that I can tell, and made a few mistakes that were easily noticed.

    With that said, I'm not one to talk, after all.. I am very good at fucking around and game playing. I have earned the "puppet master" label in the past. It does little for me today, childs play. Though I don't mind when others play the game, it is a part of their experience. Have fun.

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  13. I guess I'm the only one with no life siting in front of the computer.

    I have been on many forums in the last 2 or so decades. Does that help at all ?

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  14. "What's your excuse for posting walls of text concerning someone you despise so much?"

    Why do you keep squirming your way out of answering questions david? And do you really think anyone is messing with out of anger? You're just one of those people who can be fucked with.

    If you were to buy me a pint I'd say thanks for the drink and then tell you to piss off. You'd boil up with anger, go red in the face and then do absolutely nothing like always.

    "@Mis, which form ?"

    The SW forum. You sound like some of the types we've got over there.

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  15. I've been on sex forums

    I've been on car forums

    I've been on science forums

    I've been on atheist forums

    I've been on cooking forums

    I've been on emotions forums

    I've been on theist forums

    I've been on IT forums

    I've been on psychopath forums

    .............. fingers getting sore.

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  17. @The Chosen One You are cute

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  18. "types"

    I haven't been on SW forums, just found out there was one now.

    Perhaps it's a good thing, seeing all the crying going on in here. Why further my disgust.

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  19. @Caroline, that Ménage à trois offer is still out there....

    fyi

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  20. "Bravo! It makes me wonder if you have a real life beside the one online. You went after delusional zwaki fitting exactly the same profile."

    Well you're just too sharp for me David. I'd have wake up pretty early in the morning to slip one by you. Give yourself a pat on the back.

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  21. Speaking of blogs and such.. http://whatisapsychopath.blogspot.com/

    This one seems green. Shes kind of cute, has many family pictures and her person life for all to see.

    I've made a few posts arguing some of the things on the site, but she has never approved them.

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  23. On the one hand I can understand why an ASPD woman would be diagnosed BPD.

    There are 9 diagnostic criteria for BPD and the crossover with ASPD would include:

    - A pattern of unstable interpersonal relationships (though for ASPD I think this woul not have the same characteristics of idealization and devaluation).
    - Impulsivity (definitely)
    - Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (mood swings - however for BPD this is an entire range of sadness/ depression/ euphoria/ anger/ irritability/ shame/ etc... where I think with ASPD it would be more irritability and anger which might just make it fall under the next criteria)
    - Innapropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger


    However I think there would be a lack of characteristic abandonment fear, self-harm/suicidal behavior, feelings of emptiness/boredom/ or transient paranoid ideation and dissociation. Most ASPD/sociopaths I've talked to seem to have a pretty solid sense of identity as well.

    I've occasionally thought I had ASPD tendencies (which does not necessarily mean Sociopath), because of my very volatile anger and impaired empathy, but you need to take everything in to consideration and look at the whole picture. It is possible to have co-morbid personality disorders, but BPD and Sociopathy are so incredibly different I would have difficulty imagining these in the same person unless they also had a Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple personalities). Emotionality is the key factor here. With BPD emotions are volatile. With Sociopathy emotions are impaired.

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  24. * You need at least 5 of the diagnostic criteria to be technically qualified as BPD... but many clinicians will see a woman that has volatile anger and be biased to say that she just has reactive mood swings and consider this enough because they are 'difficult'.

    This is not necessarily accurate though.

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  25. @TheChosenOne... I'm going to check out that blog you just posted. Looks interesting. Though I'm pretty skeptical about anyone that isn't PD trying to blog about it. It looks like this chick isn't a S/P/BP and was/is just involved with one and trying to dissect and analyze them? Ugh.

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  26. Yes, and has done a shitty job for the most part.

    Enjoy the read *bangs head off wall*

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  27. I temporarily added her to my bloglist. I hope she visits my blog and becomes wildly uncomfortable if her statements and articles are wildly inaccurate.

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  29. @Haven, I'll have to check yours out as well. Any nude shots inthe Bio ??

    @David, OCD and antisocial as well huh ? OCD and antisocial as well huh ? OCD and antisocial as well huh ?

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  31. "it is as if nobody lives here in this apartment"

    ha.. yes. I don't know if it is the psychopathy or that in me that drives the women nuts :) Things have to be a certain way, my way. Compalints department is *points to the door*

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  32. Heh, TCO, no nudes, but at one point I posted a pic of my latest tattoo that comes close. My blog is all Borderline stuff. I don't think it's of interest to most people here though. Just fair warning.

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  33. I would like to know if any of you here with a personality disorder, like being a sociopath etc, have baby pcitures with you smiling ?

    I know a person that is one, has little emotions, but has smile pictures as a baby.

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  34. @David do you do house cleaning?

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  35. @The Chosen One I can look at cheesecake and walk away.

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  36. Cheese cake that does house cleaning.

    Your loss ;)

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  37. @Haven Just my opinion, but you do not seem like a sociopath, at all. You said it right, that the sociopaths have a very solid sense of self where the BPD's have a very amorphous sense of self.

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  38. This charm just doesn't work as well online as it does in person.

    We should meet up. Would have you home by 10pm promise... *inner voice* "and naked by 9"

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  39. @TCO Thank GOD I am disciplined.

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  40. Which god ? There have been thousands.

    Thor is cool. it's the Hammer!

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  41. @TCO If you were in person I would be in trouble because you talk just the way I like.

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  42. From Caroline to TCODecember 20, 2011 at 8:08 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnBtCKRUUV8

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  43. This my digital 'come hither' look (use your imagination)

    Please note the hair flip and shy smile. =)

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  45. @David LOL

    @Anon, no youtube till later.

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  46. NO, David, I want you to do my house cleaning.

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  49. @David,

    Business proposition.

    http://www.abc26.com/news/local/naked-maid-service-wgno,0,2636584.story

    We could make a killing ;)

    P.s... Fcuk dyslexia

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  51. Policies, Legal... meh. Just ignore those parts. We want to make money, not just exist.

    100$ a touch

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  52. Providing they WASH their hands first.....

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  55. @Caroline... When did you get the impression I was a sociopath?

    I'm Borderline PD.

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  56. @The Chosen One You got my whacky sense of humor, too.

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  57. @Haven I never got the sense you were a sociopath. I was just responding to what you wrote about the differences and inserting you in there lol

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  58. Haha, Ok I see what you were doing there. The first time I read that comment my brain interpretted it a little funny.

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  59. Do you think I feel anger towards you, on the contrary. I wouldn't buy you 1 pint, I would buy you 20, just to see you confuse some wall decoration in the bar with the men's lavatory.

    David LOL!

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  60. I don't know what the big deal is about prostitution, anyway. Haven was a stripper, but she gets a pass cuz she's a female? Haven says she wasn't ever abused. You believe Haven but not David, because David says he's a socio and Haven says she's bpd? What is the point of having the discussion of the BLURR in the lines between bpd and sociopathy (male female differences within a spectrum of personality differences which cause people to be "deluded" *cough*

    -Ukan used that word but he gets a pass cause he's a guy , right?

    I find the whole homophobia thing and bias here passing fucking strange.

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  61. Homophobia... I have never had a problem hating anyone equally. No one gets a break.

    @Anon8:53am

    For a "stupid foreigner" I rather enjoy Davids posts. Entertaining. Many are here.

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  62. If diagnosed as a kid I would almost certainly would have got the label Asperger

    Now as a adult they will flip it over to sociopath, right? Some of you are so retarded it is a constant laugh to read your attempts to diagnose yourselves. You are not a sociopath, David, you are a compliant victim. Your life is a lesson in learned helpessness. What you did is nothing short of what Michael Jackson's victims did to him. It doesn't make you anything but another victim that some child molester had to pay the price for. In these cases nobody wins. The sexual predator has monetary damages, but the victim has psychological damages as well. You are clearly suffering from them.

    I pack a weapon wherever I needed to in order to survive, david. I'm glad you keep bringing that up. Rather than be without a means to attack people or defend myself I would smuggle a knife in my arse. I'll do it again in a heartbeat.

    What would you do to survive, david? Hide, like you did as a child from those bullies day in and day out. Be compliant like you did with sucking the cock of that sexual predator for five years? You won't do anything to save yourself or keep your dignity. He told you open up and just shoved his old cock in. You were young enough that he didn't have to snatch children off the street. Instead he had one come over and service his needs. He left his curse on you david, and that's something money can't fix. You are scarred forever.

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  63. Haven I doubt that your series on schema is only beneficial to bpds. I recommend some of the male narc- heavy gents get over there for a spell.

    You have a way of making a person feel ok about their faults or "eccentricities" whatever.
    The socios don't always show theirs here, because they're too busy puffing up and posturing for each other. They need some serious help if they want to understand how to function better in relationships.

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  64. ?!?!? Bella ?!?!?

    I don't really know what the big deal about prostitution is either. A female stripper (BPD or not) has a cultural normative that a male prositute does not though. Especially when there's an aspect hetero male insecurity thrown in there. If a straight guy was offered a substantial amount of money to sleep with an old woman, he'd probably do it. I don't see why it's any different for a homosexual male.

    Everything about the sex industry has to do with manipulation. You identify your mark, target, or client, and do what you have to do to seperate them from their money. I think it would be even easier for a sociopath to do because there's no concern about emotional attachment or conflicting ideas of self-worth.

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  65. s'matter Bella just don't give a crap about keeping up appearances or thinking before you speak?

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  66. TCO did you meet Zhwaq on World of Warcraft? I'm curious on how you became one of his readers.

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  67. They need some serious help if they want to understand how to function better in relationships.

    Are you in a relationship currently Bella?

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  68. BPD and sociopathy are the complete opposite. They have no similarities. Borderlines aren't charismatic, or near as arrogant as the socio.

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  70. @Bella... The schema therapy text I'm referencing in that series actually focuses specifically on BPD and NPD. But most everyone has some presentations of the various maladaptive schemas. It's the combinations and presentations that determine what a person is really deal with.

    And thanks =) I try and make it more relatable. A lot of people don't do this kind of research because the material can be pretty daunting. Everyone in society is so bent on hiding the things they think are unacceptable (myself included to the outside world). I don't think people understand just how common a lot of their 'faults and eccentricities' are.

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  71. Read American Psycho, if you want a solid look into a psychopaths mind. It's almost perfect.

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  72. No meanness to anyone, but behave yourself, Ukan, or people are going to realize how nice it is when you are not here :)

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  73. Providing your body to be used by someone is not manipulation. That's service. It doesn't take skill to turn a trick, just a orifice to stick a cock into. I don't give strippers anymore respect than prostitutes. As far as I'm concerned they are both mindless jobs for the damaged. Long term I have never seen a mentally healthy prostitute or stripper.

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  74. UKan is a perfect example of the sociopaths grandiosity.

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  75. @UKan,

    Tired that game more than a decade ago... I was more of a 'Delta Force' first person shooter. Military life attracked me to those games.

    I found psychopathicwritings inthe same way I found this site. Google search.

    I don't care for the drama buzing around him/her and the site he runs. Being antisocial, this is my way of killing my boredom, as well learning, and understanding myself more. I do get something from this site and others like it... believe it or not. I have found a number or your posts useful. A few have real interest, others are just trolls or morons with multipal accounts. Time killers as well :)

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  77. I don't think you can be mean caroline. I imagine you as one of those retarded ditzy psych nurses that gets manipulated by the inmates on a constant basis. Tell me, have any of the patients fucked you?

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  78. Sociopaths don't internalize anything, due to the lack of conscience. If Haven constantly acted grandiose, she would look within and think "wait a second, what the hell am i doing" Sociopaths don't do this. Mainly, because they don't give a shit about people.

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  79. I can't imagine stripping as a "life long" profession. I put that in quotes because let's face it, the physical appeal of bodies begins to fail after a while. It is absolutely completely mindless in terms of brain power. It does take some manipulation when you're competing against other women for a mans money, and trying to talk him into dances which earn you considerably more than just letting them sit at the bar and stare at your tits all night.

    Regardless. It kept me in cash when I was dealing with unemployment in a bad economy. It wasn't a career move though.

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  80. Haven's inner voice would batter her constantly. Her mind will probably call her out on every act she does. So she probably finds herself apologizing for being rude to people and so on.

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  81. I have a male friend who prostitutes himself. FOr Money money money money money. He's a christian. HE's straight. HE has even been to jail in his native country . He is very tough guy.

    Only thing he complains about is his desensitizing and worry that the random sex is going to ruin it with someone he will want to love forever.

    (He's basically a sex addict who has found his niche, and has to deal with the consequences though, so that is a weakness. Any addiction is.

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  82. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Haven's inner voice would batter her constantly. Her mind will probably call her out on every act she does. So she probably finds herself apologizing for being rude to people and so on.

    Is this the definition of BPD, in a word? I am very serious, here.

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  83. Honestly Haven, if you want to be a stripper, then go ahead. Do what you want. Men do not take women seriously. From strippers to accountants, they all hold the same merit, in a man's mind.

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  84. Which is why I like Judge Judy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "Brains is forever"

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  85. Judge Judy is not smart, she's arrogant and delusional. And that's why she's powerful.

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  86. I have no sense of grandiosity. However I also don't care what anyone thinks of me or my actions (until they become someone I am attached to).

    This is a key point with a lot of Borderlines I think. The entire game changes for me when I become attached to someone and subsequently fear losing them.

    I don't care about strangers, I don't care about acquaintances. I wouldn't go out of my way to take advantage of them or hurt them, but I don't care about what they're going through either. And I wouldn't care to apologize if I didn't need to.

    However, if they're someone I'm attached to... yes I would probably beat myself up if I did something that resulted in me losing a relationships that was important to me.

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  87. At least your honest Haven. I can give you that. I've known a lot of strippers and prostitutes in my line of work. Some girls give a few twirls on the pole and get some money for college. Some girls make it a life long decision and I say life long because they hardly make it to an age where they look too awful to get on stage. They end up cutting their wrists or overdosing trying to keep down the misery of their day to day life. If I'm not mistaken, the comparison is void reguardless. Haven is not a stripper, she is one of those office birds. David is still a prostitute and he is in his mid thirties. This is around the time he should be cutting his wrists or overdosing.

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  88. "Honestly Haven, if you want to be a stripper, then go ahead. Do what you want. Men do not take women seriously. From strippers to accountants, they all hold the same merit, in a man's mind."

    Why would I need to be a stripper now? I have a job that is engaging and challenges me in ways that I value. Plus the hours are better.

    I'd like to believe that all men are that low functioning, but even if they are, it's fortunate that I have other options.

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  90. See that's the difference. Socios care EXACTLY what people think of them (impression management) You can see this in UKan's writing. Everything is a show. There's no substance.

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  91. @Anon 939.... In a word. No. BPD is much more complicated than that though it is the case for some.

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  92. Ha...! My little sister made a giant nyan cat in Minecraft. :D

    I think it has more to do with David still being a prostitute, Bella.

    Also: I thought I wrote a pretty nice comment yesterday, but everyone ignored it. :( What's up with that? Granted, the argument in question had been over for a day, but I missed it then and thought I'd provide some input. :/

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  93. BPD projection is also there, imo.

    We see everything. We see that we would feel abandoned if a person criticized us, so we see it. It is not guilt exactly. It is more of a selfish "Fuck, now I have to back track... I didn't men to hurt her" thing. If the thing you said was close to home and you like the person yes there's the genuine guilt too. If they are useless and an asshole and you just blurted, it might be as simple as a shallow "sorry" to keep up appearances. It is when you want someone to stay very badly that you feel a desperate guilt "like" thing.

    My guilt can be also fleeting. I can easily dissociate from any negative feeling . I have gotten accustomed to it.

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  94. ^^I'd like to believe all men are NOT*** that low functioning ^^

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  95. There's substance if you sit through the bollocks long enough.

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  96. That's the thing. A socio is so entitled and out of touch with the world, that they believe they can do anything to anyone, and they'll still stick around. And most of the time it works. A socio doesn't analyze their actions.

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  97. I met a lot of those lifers in the club Ukan. They're pretty busted, hollow shells of what a functional person should be. It's really sad sometimes. I was surprised some of them could even drag themselves to their cars by the end of the night they'd leave so drunk or drugged up. Avoiding the drugs is key. It's a dangerous industry.

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  98. David I am not comparing you to him. I am merely saying there are all sorts of prostitutes.

    I don't like when people generalize.

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  99. If we were out of touch with the world we wouldn't be able to fuck over people like you. The people we victimize are the ones out of touch. They think we are the bridge to lead them back. How many victims have you seen that are playing with a full deck? Take you as an example. You are crowing about sociopaths on a forum for sociopaths like anybody gives a toss.

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  100. I get this Ukan.

    I thought you had said you were at a crossroads, David?

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  101. @UKan

    //You are crowing about sociopaths on a forum for sociopaths like anybody gives a toss.//

    You must, you keep entertaining her posts. Just ignore the ones you don't give a "toss" about chap!

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  103. Avoiding the drugs is key. It's a dangerous industry.

    Indeed. Many succumb to them. Soon they are a slave to the dealer. The lines they drew before suddenly become blurry Nest thing you know they are getting gangbanged in the back by some rowdy teenagers so they can get another line after the show. The cold part is they are like hamsters on a wheel. They do the drugs to make them feel better about what they did to get the drugs.

    Speaking of that I ran your phone number a while back, david, and a post came up about doing multiple guys at once. Are you lines starting to blur? What boundaries have you set for yourself that are now broken?

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  104. TCO, the HTML for italics is: (i)text(/i). Just replace '(' with '<' and ')' with '>'.

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  105. Thanks Wheatly... I'm extremely lazy. TNP tried to help me the other day :)

    @Anon... what is me ?

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  106. You must, you keep entertaining her posts. Just ignore the ones you don't give a "toss" about chap!

    We don't do that 'hide from the troll' shite here, lad. We are the trolls. If you want to get on that program go back to that rape victims site you used to frequent. I imagine you as some fucking geek with elf ears taped to the side of your head at a star wars convention.

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  107. //That's not what WE do here lad//

    he speaks for all Klingons !

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  108. Ukan is just bitter that I'am a Vulcan. *he's prob typing away like mad right now... all upset, huffing and puffing..."DAM THAT POINTY EARED BASTARD!".."but I kind of like him"

    UKan

    Live long and prosper. (makes Vulcan hand sign)

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  109. Actually I was off kissing my wife while you were posting post after post after post to respond to something I said in passing. Hit a nerve Chosen? Maybe you should get off your computer and get laid. Maybe then you wouldn't dedicate half the posts here flirting with women who are mentally ill or talking about your cock.

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  111. in soviet russia borderline ABANDON YOU!

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  112. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDd07jhGcL0&feature=related

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  113. Button pressed... *success*

    Ukan.. you are like the puddle that marvels at how the hole you are in fits you perfectly.

    Your assumptions are that of a 21 year old. So boring. You clearly have nothing intelligent to add here. But I guess your lack of control is something that comes with a low functioning PD.

    You are good at fooling yourself. I'd tip my hat... had I been wearing one ;)

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  115. Ukan feels a little threatened, The Chosen One? Does your alpha maleness inspire this in men?

    *chomping on cheesecake*

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  116. Why do the so called low functioning sociopaths rule this place?

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  117. @Caroline.... deep DEEP down inside.. he wants me DEEP DEEP down inside him.

    *no teeth please*

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  118. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMT46uAq62Q&feature=related

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  119. Profile of a high functioning socio:

    Nerd
    Not very manipulative
    Isn't narcissistic

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  120. Prepare to wind UKan up and put in new batteries.

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  121. how do you manipulate a narcissist?

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  122. I like how when soemone gets destroyed in a conversation here, the Anon comments start up. Nice fail UKan lol

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  123. How do you manipulate a narcissist?

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  124. Anons ---Get your gear together. Fighting may be needed.


    Anon Theme Song


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0&feature=related

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  125. Looks like you've found your next hero Erin. I wouldn't put to much faith in him.

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  126. I hate nice people

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  127. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJ3rkNq2ok&feature=related

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  128. Isn't it cute, how Ukan and Misanthrope created their blogging profles at the SAME month in Jan 2011, and have similer amount of profile views ?

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  129. "Isn't it cute, how Ukan and Misanthrope created their blogging profles at the SAME month in Jan 2011, and have similer amount of profile views ?"

    Spooky. ~

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  130. Ukan Tries to Take Down Alpha MalesDecember 20, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    Ukan took down Luke. I will give Ukan that, but TCO is a lot cooler than Luke, so we shall see.

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  131. Tally----- UKan vs TCODecember 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    TCO--- 3
    UKan 0

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  132. Ones a psychopath, the other a sociopath.

    Good luck cracking the psychopath Ukan lol

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  133. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Ones a psychopath, the other a sociopath.

    Good luck cracking the psychopath Ukan lol

    Fucking love it.

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  134. I'm not here to win... anything. But thanks for the votes.

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  135. TCO is a bell end who comes on here to try his luck at sounding witty and interesting Erin. Why don't you put all your eggs in a basket without a hole at the bottom for once. You're setting your self up for more disappointment and failure.

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  136. you are like the puddle that marvels at how the hole you are in fits you perfectly.

    Now where have I heard that little gem before… TCO, you were one of the faceless anons, weren’t you? One of the ignorant ones who tried to “educate” me and failed. It's nice to put a name to an anonymouse for once. I do however suggest you get some new material. That line sounds nowhere near as smart as you think it does.

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  138. I never thought I was witty or interesting myself Mis... I mean UKan. But to say that you must have felt it.

    I too noticed that Jan 11 sign up date UKan. Now what were you saying about war craft with Zwaq ?

    You see, I can make wild assumptions too. What have I to gain from pointing out that you are a socio want to be? Nothing. Much like youhave nothing to gain.

    While the rest of us are enjoying the flow of "interesting" convo outside or our lives.. enjoy your hole you find yourself marveling in.

    @ Daniel, yes.. that was a nice oneliner I lifted. I like it. Sorry it didn't meet your level of appoval *rolls eyes*

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  139. WHO said I was not cool?

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  140. LOL, now another profile of Ukans, Daniel lol.

    I love this place!

    You PD's peeps are fucked in the head LOL

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  141. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    LOL, now another profile of Ukans, Daniel lol.

    I love this place!

    You PD's peeps are fucked in the head LOL


    LMFAO @@@@@@@@@@

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  142. Well holy shit TCO. I swear you and David could be left confused with a game of peak a boo.

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  143. TCO---5
    UKan
    Daniel
    Misanthrope---0

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  144. @The Chosen One
    Nice to have you around, buddy.

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  145. it's it fun when wild assumptions come back at you ?

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  146. Make all the assumptions you want Chosen. I make conclusions. How do you think I knew you came from Zwaqs website. Boom, first guess. I must be fucking psychic.

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  147. @UKanX.Pand

    Probally because my picture and name on all over the comments section ?

    Nothing get past you ....huh ?

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  148. Leave Daniel out of the mix. He is too sexy with that fucking intellect of his he he

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  149. @ Daniel, yes.. that was a nice oneliner I lifted. I like it. Sorry it didn't meet your level of appoval *rolls eyes*

    Too late TCO. Deflection doesn't work with this crowd.

    Now let’s get personal, shall we? What do you gain by adapting the sociopath label? What is the shape of the whole in your psyche that you think being a sociopath would fill? You’ve read all about sociopathy/psychopathy of course, although judging by last week’s conversation you haven’t examined it from as many angles as you think you have. Is “being a psychopath” working? Do you feel better? Stronger? More powerful?

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  150. Fucking go-------TCO *laughing on floor*

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  152. "it's it fun when wild assumptions come back at you ?"

    Wild assumptions that make you seem mildly retarded. Yeah it is fun.

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  153. David I like to keep you waiting. You know what I'm talking about. Your advertisement you had on some website saying that you are taking two guys at once. It had your phone number you gave out on it. Unless your burner is just something all of the whores on the corner use.

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  154. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9lpP51LPw

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  155. Probally because my picture and name on all over the comments section ?

    Believe it or not I never went to Zwaqs site except to vandalize it. I never saw your name. I just fired a guess because you are such a fucking goober.

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  156. "you're just fucking craaazyyyy"

    Coming from you I don't think that means much. Now take your pills and run off to that new shrink of yours.

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  157. UKan comes out with some good names, but you better do better than that, Muppet.

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  158. Lemmiwinks has made it out, his tale is nearly through!

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  159. my day --

    verbally abused two family members.
    strangled my dog for 10 minutes.
    jerked off ferociously, at least 5 times.
    stole 5 dollars in tips from a cafe when the customer had left.
    put my girlfriends 12 year old sisters thong on my face and jacked off.

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  160. UKan, imagining something does not mean it actually exists, it just means they're capable of imagining things.

    But keep posting one asinine comment after another. Makes you look.... tougher ;)

    And...//Too late TCO. Deflection doesn't work with this crowd.//

    Nice try. Are you in high school still ? It must piss you off that I call the shots are I see them, and as for THIS CROWD, I don't care what the crowd thinks, perhaps you do, but it is not in my wiring to care. If making a blind assumption with no proof makes you FEEL better, have at it.

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  162. You are no ordinary gerbil Lemmiwinks, you are the Gerbil King! *Puts crown on Lemmiwinks' head*

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  164. @David,

    It's ammusing how much effort this lad puts into making profiles, and replying with so much emotion.

    Breath ukan... tomorrow will come after you close your eyes.

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  165. I have found a number or your posts useful

    -TCO


    But keep posting one asinine comment after another. Makes you look.... tougher ;)

    -TCO

    So I want to know. When do people around here lose respect for me,k because it seems like it happends moments after I start in on them.

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  166. Le-Le-Lemmiwinks Lemmiwinks Lemmi-Lemmiwinks Lemmiwinks, Lemm-Le-Lemmiwinks Gerbil King!

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  168. Are you STILL at it ukan ?

    Do you really desire ...respect...from the bags of bones that come here ?

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  169. Lemm-Le-Lemmiwinks Gerbil King!

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  171. So I want to know. When do people around here lose respect for me,k because it seems like it happends moments after I start in on them.


    What are you drinking? Pussy Juice he he

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  172. Le-Lell-Lemmiwinks

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  173. He wants "respect" from .... "THIS CROWD"

    ...which according to him is a crowd of sociopaths.

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  174. Le-Le-Lemmiwinks LeeeeLelelelelasdpaosfapsdfk

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  175. The Chosen One 5
    UKan 0

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  176. You'll never be diagnosed as a sociopath David, so why don't you use that shrink to work out all the damage that's been done to your mind over the course of your shitty life. Or just go ahead blow the last of your whoring money on getting an answer to something that anyone here could tell you. I don't care.

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  177. I'm pretty sure Respect is given on a Borderline type basis here. Depending on your previous interaction with someone, depends on the respect you have from whom.



    wv:bartlion (wtf?)

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  178. TCO, they aren’t blind assumptions and you know it. Just repeating the phrase “blind assumption” over and over again won’t wipe anyone’s memories. Neither will jumping on certain phrases. It reveals your lack of nuance. I noticed this last week and failed to mention it. So let’s just drop the deflection and get down to business. You want to feel chosen, to prove your superiority. You think being a psychopath is the way to do that. It's like your own down and dirty version of self empowerment. Is it working? I know your first instinct will be to deflect some more. You’ll try to disguise your deflection with an insult. But you’re smarter than that, aren’t you? Resist your initial emotional response. Let’s get down to brass tacks and talk about you.

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  181. LMAO David UKan is his own lab.

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  182. Tea for me David. Coffee makes me jittery.

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  183. Did you get all excited when I "admitted" to being UKan David? Do you know how stupid you look from my perspective? And how funny it is to watch you take shots at something that only exists in your own mind?

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  184. TheChosenOne said...
    You know who you are.... and I know you are reading this. I know a lot more than you think. Your move.

    December 16, 2011 7:18 AM

    Yes, I too noticed a few things. But i usually don't mention, simply because I just don't care.

    As for your little rant about, deflection, and empowerment. Do you feel empowered from your activities online with random people you will never meet ?

    Your life might just be more lonely and pathetic than mine.

    Talk about me ? Is that an invite ? or an order ? How about this... you can talk about me all you like :) if it will make you feel better.

    Again... the use of phrases etc. I'm in no position to reinvent the wheel. Using terms, phrases that already exist work just fine for me ;)

    Is there anything else you would like to get off your chest ? Do it quick, I'm leaving for a bit.

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  185. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9lpP51LPw

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  186. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRXdTsMbqC8

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  187. Daniel Birdick-

    In response to the message you wrote back to me yesterday:

    "?, you may as well tell your story if you want any kind of answer. You're wondering if your friend, who you suspect is sociopathic, is actually your friend, right?

    Or email ME."

    I was just wondering if anybody who considers themselves to be a Sociopath or has been diagnosed as having ASPD has friends...people they really care to listen to and be around...of if they just surround themselves around others for amusement, or some other purpose. And I'd still like to know.

    No, I'm not in that kind of a situation.

    I guess my story is that I personally view Sociopaths as no worse than those who are more empathetic, but just as people who are a little more honest with themselves about what's really going on. I believe that the majority of people are delusional and BS themselves and others. I think that a lot of "empaths" stick together and have "friends", not because they care so much about each other, but because they can't stand alone. Maybe I'm crazy for thinking all of this, but I just wanted to know what a person, who I believe is a little more realistic about the world, thinks about a topic like friendship.

    Thank you.

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  188. YALL FAKE

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  189. He wants "respect" from .... "THIS CROWD"

    ...which according to him is a crowd of sociopaths.

    Wrong and wrong. I aim to be despised. If I cared about respect I would have taken yours and david's flattery and moved on. Your flattery means nothing to me, but a shite attempt at keeping me off your back. All it does is encourage me.

    This place isn't a bunch of sociopaths. It's sprinkle of a variety of muppets bouncing from one part of the rubber room to the next.

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