Thursday, December 8, 2011

Chicken and egg

More research on the difference between sociopath, this time it's a lower number of connections from the prefontal cortex and amygdala. From Scientific American:

The study’s most important finding centered on impairments in the link between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (a control node for regulating emotion, threats, decision-making and social behavior) and the amygdala, a locus of emotional processing. . . . In theory, the faulty interaction between the amygdala and the prefrontal cortex could fail to provide the proper negative emotional cue that robbing a bank or a ripping off a friend is just not kosher. Further tests are needed to confirm the implications of this breakdown in communication in the brain’s internal social network.

This finding, though, could also extend work by Newman that indicates that psychopathy may result from what he calls an “attention bottleneck.” Psychopaths may focus fixedly on one goal and ignore all other social cues, perhaps even signals sent over the prefrontal-to-amygdala pathway.
Good friend Hare warns:

Hare cautions that identifying what’s different in the brains of psychopaths isn’t the same thing as figuring out the cause of psychopathy. The weakened connections seen in the Wisconsin study could be a by-product of some other environmental or genetic factor commonly found among psychopaths.

“We have a chicken and an egg, in a sense,” he says. “There’s a tendency, certainly among people in the criminal justice system, to take any of these deficits and say, ‘Wow, we have a psychopath who has all these behavioral problems, and now we have this brain anomaly or dysfunction that seems to match, therefore one caused the other.’”

336 comments:

  1. The “attention bottleneck” theory makes sense to me. Usually I know the consequences but I ignore them. Also white blocks. I had to highlight to reads Hare's warning.

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  2. Also been on a "Weeds" marathon and the lead broad finally admits to being a psychopath. She warns her young son to try and do the right thing before inciting a riot. Season 6 episode 7.

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  3. weeds is cooooooooooo

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  6. Uh huh interesting...How did responding in such a manner make you feel? Empowered perhaps?

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  8. I see. Yes, there is plenty of mental garbage here. I will write you a prescription for toxic exposure after our session.

    Would you ever talk to your Mother in that fashion?

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  10. Lets talk about your relationship with your Mother from childhood to adulthood.

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  12. I see...well DavidSocio, I am not a miracle worker, just a Dr. and we have yet to discover the cure for nagging mother-itis.

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  13. "we have yet to discover the cure for nagging mother"

    Duct tape

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  14. Go get a manicure David. Get your toes all pampered and glossy, too. You'll be back to princess-head in no time.

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  15. We need to get you excited about life!

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  16. I was thinking about you, last night, David. This is my 2 cents.
    I think you were born with the potential for limited empathy but that potential was "turned on" by bullying. Without bullying, you may have had lower empathy, but not to the degree you do, now.

    However,I think you have empathy in a compartment. You have your sociopath behavior in another compartment.

    I think that you could strengthen your empathy, as one would strengthen a muscle. However, you would need to have more than talk therapy. You would need to find a person who understood the current trends in therapy, which is beyond old talk therapy.

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  18. That is normal, David. Everyone wants to do that, and does it, at times lol

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  19. May I ask if you experience any sort of regret after your outburst, David?

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  20. @David, I want to do it, but don't because you make enemies. The short term enjoyment is not worth the long term consequences, for me. I have done it, though, of course.

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  22. @David when kids bullied you, did you cry?

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  25. David, it is strange to me that you never cried or felt hurt. This leads me to think you were born with strong, strong sociopath traits. However, this does not go with the fact you GET hurt if someone does not greet you, respectfully. Something does not add up. What do you think?

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  26. I was so annoyed I responded "why don't I hang you and let yourself kick the chair from under your feet, I'll make sure you don't fall too hard so the suffocating takes a couple of minutes, I heard some like that and even cum during the process".

    I never responded to someone like that before, it's all the fault of the shit I read in this place. He didn't respond :)

    David, this outburst. Do you have any regret about it?

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  28. I am still kicking around the Mal Narc vs Sociopath. The Mal Narc I know MUST look good at all times. That is his number one goal. He will kill anyone who makes him look bad. Maybe, that is where his major lack of empathy lies, in protecting his mask. He has a different "goal" than the sociopath. This person has a lot of fears unlike the sociopath who takes all sorts of risks.


    Is that typical of Mal Narcs i.e. being very fearful?

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  30. Mal Narcs are scarier imo

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  31. @ David the answers are in the fine tuning of WHAT is it you feel when someone is disrespectful to you, for example. I think you are unclear on it and, so, I can not see it clearly, either.

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  32. Why are Mal narcs scarier? I would think sociopaths would be scarier? They seem colder. The Mal narc cries and is afraid. That makes him less scary, imo.

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  33. David and Caroline= soulmates forever and ever more

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  34. IDK something more sinister about a Mal Narc, like rage.

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  37. @David so it is like pure rage, only? Try to think about any other "colors" in the rage. This would be important. My guess is that there IS hurt in there, but I could be wrong. I just have myself to go by and I am not you, so I go by that basis.

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  38. bbbbbbbbbbbbbboooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg

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  40. @David, watch really closely and see what is there. Anger takes away sadness and hurt by putting t in to rage. That is why many men can be angry, but not sad and hurt. Sad and hurt feels vulnerable while anger feels "strong"

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  41. Mal Narcs win the scariest boogeymen award imo

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  42. *putting it in to *

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  43. David is the best =D Eden is disgusting

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  44. David is the best =D Eden is disgusting

    I agree :D

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  46. David, I'm saying that Eden could learn to be less disgusting. >:(

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  47. The website has been optimised for mobile phones finally. This is brilliant. Now its not sluggish and you can edit on the touchscreen without it flying all over the place.

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  48. Eden is a sexy lioness! I can't blame you for being jealous.

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  50. I wonder if Hare has ever seen this site?

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  51. He's been here and commented actually. A long time ago

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  52. Really! Wow that's kind of cool. Do you remember around when? That would be interesting to check out.

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  53. You're right david. What a great way to try it out.


    When are you finally going to take action instead of all this talk. Everyone gets annoyed at people david. Nobody gives a toss about what you thought of doing, people care about what you've done. There's nothing different going on now than your entire fucking life which is you thinking of doing something to someone and blabbing on about it. Do it. If you really want to hang that fucker then call him over, tie him up, put a bag over his head, and string him up. Video it for us and put it on youtube. Otherwise just shut the fuck up because I'm not impressed by what you thought about doing.

    Works great.

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  54. No I think I was anon then. Birdick talked to him. He probably remembers.

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  55. Alright. Thanks Ukan. I'll ask Daniel when next I see him.

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  56. are you sure it wasn't doctor robert? he's a different guy.

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  57. How is my Haven, today? Hi Frank.

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  58. I'm doing alright. Finally getting a small break today. Busy busy. How're you?

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  59. Hank stood up for Haven, when Michael, called Haven, Hitler.

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  60. Could have been. I don't remember and don't care enough to figure it out.

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  62. Michael called me Hitler? Um, didn't he just try to say that Hitler was Borderline? Hahaha.

    Personally I would think that anyone hell bent on wiping out people he deemed as not worthy and building up the world in his own idealized view, with an army to do his bidding so he could rule a world filled with people to worship him and validate everything he believes probably has the grandiosity of a narc.

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  63. And what are you going to do if I don't stop being disgusting, ami? Throw my daughter's picture to the pedophiles? Is that how you disciplined your own children?

    "If you don't start acting the way mommy wants you to... I'll let daddy molest you some more."

    Is that how it goes with you?

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  64. What regular would run? Most people here are no stranger to violence, david. Unlike you.

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  65. Hows it hanging, Hank? You are THE ladies man on SW. Frank hangs up his lizard polyester pants and matching shoes and bag. Frank is going learn your moves, Hank. Frank is sitting back and watching, as we speak.

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  66. "scary chicken"

    Ugh. And you say you can fool people into thinking you're an American? Ha!

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  68. Hank thinks Frank, is the ladies man. Hank learns from Frank, the most. Hank was offended at the idea, of Hitler, being similar, to the lovely Haven.

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  69. Meh, I'm not even sure what 'scary chicken' means.

    I figured you meant 'running around like chickens with their heads cut off'.

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  71. I wasn't talking about the difference between Americanisms and Britishisms. I was talking about the difference between 'scared' and 'scary'.

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  72. Pig vomit keep being disgusting.

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  73. lol scary chickens! They can do so much damage to your asshole, with their scary beaks!

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  74. FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!December 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM

    FO SHO MOFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  75. Maybe they should use TOR network.

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  77. Haven

    How are things at work going with the tech boy break up?

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  78. i just stopped another one of you turds from being paroled. umad?

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  79. Hank, you are I love each other. Lets show them how it is done.

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  80. @Sweets... Hasn't happened yet. I have to work myself up to it. It hasn't helped that he's done like half a dozen sweet things this week either. My resolve with things like this is atrocious. I'll get there, but I'll probably waffle a bit first til I can figure out just how to do it.

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  81. @the socios


    DESPITE ALL YOUR RAGE UR STILL JUST A RAT IN A CAGE

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  83. You know what scares me about my girlfriend? What if I cannot be close to her once I see her for who she is? She loves people, though. She loves and is loyal to her mother. She has a strong code. Sometimes, I think, "Who is she?". Then, I think, "Who am I?"

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  84. Narcissists/psychopaths holiday events -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTDPTS6xA0

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  85. Monica I can empathise with you. My lover has a strong code and I have become part of him! I trust him to tell me what is in my head cuz he would never hurt me. People here don't understand deep things like that.

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  87. Bella people are complex. The sociopath may be "more" complex, in that he is different. Any person is a mass of complexities. Look at Nazi Germany when good people became psychopaths.

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  88. Ukans wife was rich and not very attractive, David. You figure it out.

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  89. Yes Monica. I am trying to unleash my inner psychopath so me and my love can be perfect for each other forever. I think I am part psychopath and part BPD.

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  90. Lols, borderlines are consumed by their own emotions, they aren't grandiose pricks. At most, they have a sliver of narcissism but nothing like the malignant delusions of a Hitler. Whoever things Hitler was a borderline doesn't know much about it. Pfft. K, I'm off to plot the demise of an entire race of people and make myself the figure-head of Racial hatred. You with me? No? K, see you next week.

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  91. Hitler was not delusional BECAUSE he was great

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  93. Haven

    Keep us updated!

    On another note, I would like to state my annoyance during the holiday season.

    Bah Humbug.

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  94. Oh I will Sweets.

    Why are you annoyed?

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  95. I have been trying to make myself into a sociopath for the last few weeks now!!!! The only thing I have been having trouble with is the bedwetting part....... Last night I drank 2 gallons of water before bed and finally woke up with wet sheets!!!! I was kinda grossed out and had to wash them immediatly, than I got some sort of satisfaction from it, I guess.

    The next thing I wanna try is psychopathic sex, that would be awesome!!!!

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  96. I have that problem myself and I am trying to overcome my fears. Any tips on this?

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  97. David you don't have to be a fucking genius to put this one together.

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  98. guys, entertain me. Now. :) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i wanna listen to some awesome music. K. brb.

    wv zledes. (my unborn childs name) awesomeeeee. pronounced, 'zledis' yays!

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  99. Haven

    Work is busy and on top of all the Christmas BS, I am trying to get ready for a trip to Colorado. The trip will be enjoyable, I just don't like having to deal with the preparations. I want a maid LOL

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  100. Hank is looking,for Hanks song,to Frank.

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  101. notme Themes left you a song. Did you see it?

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  102. i saw the dylan one. Cant remember what the other one was.

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  103. You got a NEW one notme. I will get it

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  104. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6mB8N24_g&ob=av2e

    im listening to this right now. :D

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  105. Haven

    I forgot to mention I haven't had a cigarette in a few days ;) That probably is half my frustration.

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  106. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83chZPsYLbo

    Not me's second song From Themes

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  107. if i could transcend all emotion. What would i be? I wish for that sometimes.

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  108. daww, thats cute. Thanks Anon. :)

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  109. :D Welcome notme Keep your chin up

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  110. thank you babe. I shall! :)

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  111. Hank wants to sing, this with Frank with beers, to people, who ignore Hank and Frank, here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPXEJYyKaM

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  112. Yeah I hear ya Sweets. Blarg. Are you trying to give up smoking or just run out?

    I quit like a month or two ago. It hasn't been that bad for me though.

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  113. I'm going to a Christmas party tonight, with my man friend. I'm excited about getting all dressed up! It's been a while. How girly I'm going to be... like a room filled with pink bubbles!

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  114. http://listverse.com/2011/12/05/top-10-alleged-autistics-in-history/

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  115. Gates is the co-founder of Microsoft and frequently tops the list of the richest people in the world. The only living entrant on this list, Gates exhibited a marked technical acumen from youth – his computer programming skills and attention to detail were remarkable, and he racked up an almost perfect score on the SATs. Despite his business prowess, he displays a number of characteristics which could be construed as Asperger’s Syndrome. He has a distinct rocking motion when he is concentrating, a clipped monotone speech pattern, and has developed a reputation for being distant, avoiding eye contact, and lashing out at subordinates when he is displeased.

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  116. Hank, do you think Frank is a friend in a low place? Frank has class. You should see his skin tight leather pants with platform shoes.

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  117. Haven

    I am quitting smoking...again.

    Eden

    Yeah? I want to see pictures or I won't believe it :P

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  118. Of me dressed up... or me with a man?! lol

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  119. Eden

    You dressed up! What are you going to wear?

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  120. I haven't really decided yet. I'm not home right now, and I don't usually make plans too ahead of time. Things tend to go more smoothly, if I just throw shit together last minute.

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  122. Anon you are way way way off if you think my wife is rich or old. ha ha ha.

    David you can't have a relationship that involves somebody not telling you what do and shoving money in your mouth after. That's the bane of being a prostitute for over a decade. I haven't met any that had a good life when they got older. It's conditioning.

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  123. Hank does not, think lowly of, Frank. Hank loves Frank. Regulars think low of Frank and Hank, so Hank picked that song, to sing with Frank.

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  124. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcnsPtv_kk

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  125. I understand, Buddy. Fuck all of them.

    hi Gary
    hi Harv

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  126. Hi Gary, Harv, Frank, and Hank. Figure I would join the club.

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  132. I want pics too Eden! I bet you'll look super hot.

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  136. ^ I know. Copy and Paste can be so infuriating.

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  137. Welcome Harry Are you hairy?

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  139. Put your rubbers on, Hairy. There is a blizzard.






    wv:harv

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  140. "I want pics too Eden! I bet you'll look super hot."

    I'll post a picture tomorrow. Maybe I'll wear something red. Show off a little. I don't usually wear flashy colors.

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  142. @David I have been thinking about what you said. I think underneath rage is hurt. Rage is the secondary emotion.

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  143. I have a question for the socios/psychopaths out there.

    If you were trapped alone somewhere without ablility to communicate/hurt/manipulate/humiliate/etc others... for instance, trapped in a small house alone without phone or internet or even a pet during a terrible blizzard and no ability to leave, how would you manage to stave off the boredom? Do you think you would "miss" the people you normally look down on? Do you think it would create something akin to "appreciation" for being a part of the world that you normally hate?

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  146. Frank, Hank does not want to see Frank, stressed, over the blizzard.

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  149. Anger is secondary and people with anger issues short circuit their brain to switch to anger instead of feeling hurt

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  150. Hi David, Hank has not spoken, with Gary, today. Hank thinks David, should ask Gary about Gary hisself.

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  151. Ok supposing there is no alcohol or drugs or paint or inhalants etc in the house. Could you be content to play solitaire or read a book? Or would you build a still and make your own alcohol lol?

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  152. make alcohol fo sho

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  153. And can you imagine yourself missing having people around? I guess it would be like kid missing their toys or video games? How long before you lose that detached coolness and throw a hissy?

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  154. "Anger is secondary and people with anger issues short circuit their brain to switch to anger instead of feeling hurt"

    People with anger issues, are people who imagine threats where there are none. Anger is part of your fight-or-flight response. Generally it's to aid in survival. It doesn't have to be about hurt. It could have more to do with the paranoia, or delusional thinking, that accompanies a wide variety of disorders.

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  155. i would miss people in a week

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  156. God I love this weather. Makes me want to stand on top of a tall building just to laugh maliciously at someone.

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  157. need some form of interaction

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  158. Maxwell is not malicious

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  160. It's not contradictory. If you feel superior, you expect to be treated that way. It's no big mystery.

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  161. If someone doesn't treat you as superior, that's going against your delusional thinking. Obviously being a prostitute does not make you superior to anyone. I'd say that's pretty delusional.

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  163. So if an NT goes without companionship of any kind for so long (think Tom Hanks in Castaway) they develop delusional friendships (ala "Wilson") and may even hallucinate. Anyone suppose how a socio would respond? Possibly creating delusional toys or pets (or whatever euphamism you use for other people) to manipulate? Also, wouldn't it suck to have to do all of the chores by yourself with no one to enable you? Would suicide be preferable? How long before contemplating suicide if stranded for good?

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  164. I think my dates aren't comparable with those of a female prostitute. I'm self-assured and not effeminated, I think this also plays a major role, people simply don't command me, I always set the agenda.

    Maybe that's what you tell yourself so you don't blow your brains out david, but you can't deny it to me. If you are comparing yourself to a female prostitute then I know where you are standing right now. I grew up around a pimp in my years I ran away from home. I talked to the whores a lot. They gave me a lot of insight into women. They also gave me a lot of insight into the minds of a prostitute.

    Most sales professions you sell yourself and give a product. In your profession you sell yourself and give yourself. You are running out of self to give, David. Don't fool yourself. You are not the one in charge. You are the one providing the service.

    Don't tell me that every person you fuck up the arse or every cock you suck is something you would gobble up outside your profession. Your doing it because you are being paid to suffer inequities. That's your profession. Your profession is to suffer people's perversions that they keep secret. That's not being in charge. You think that just because you are the jockey and he is the horse that it makes a difference, it doesn't. In irony you hang onto societies prejudices of who the 'man' in the relationship is to determine who is in charge. That's laughable. You are just as guilty as the people you constantly decry as judging you only you use it to justify a role outside being someones bitch. How convienent.

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  166. I'm truly indifferent to the people around me. I don't pay enough attention to them enough, to detect rudeness... and I suppose my definition of rude is fairly narrow compared to the average. I'll notice your slight once you've accused me of something. Especially if that something is bullshit. I've been accused of criminal acts I never committed, several times. That will piss me off for sure.

    Then believe me... I'll be watching you like a fucking hawk after that. Waiting for you to fuck up somewhere.

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  167. I had this fantasy for a very long time to have a big comfortable starship just for myself so I could make interstellar trips all by myself. With a holodeck on it in case I need some 'human' interaction.

    heh, I have that too. I always wanted to be Han Solo.

    OTOH, being a trucker has no appeal to me. It's have to be a starship. And in space.

    Can you imagine visiting hundreds os planets and meeting species that could blow your mind?

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  168. i am being beaten and abused by a socio, regularly. how do i stop the physical abuse and reason with him?

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  169. i am being beaten and abused by a socio, regularly. how do i stop the physical abuse and reason with him?

    You leave and get a self esteem. Your sicker than he is.

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  171. leave? really? :x i still have feelings for the man. there has to be away for him to become more humane towards me. deep down he's sorry.

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  172. never think about suicide ever no matter how bad i fuck up

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  173. "alien species that could blow your mind"

    Not sure wether this is meant figuratively or literally. :/

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  175. Although not entirely new to me. As I wrote down on the forum as a kid I created my own virtual world.

    Is that what you are doing here? I found it passing strange that you are seeing a therapist that specializes in medications. Maybe the real reason you are seeing a psychiatrist is that the pills and bottles of pure you chug down aren't enough anymore to push down all the rage you have.

    Let's face it david what you display on here is rage. Almost bitterness. You want to let it off your chest so badly that you expose your weaknesses to a bunch of sociopaths just because they are more scared than you about being exposed so they are safe. You have been a fuck toy and a punching bag your entire life.

    You were conditioned to being used. You were denied attention and you found it in your sexuality. When you tried to fit into society they beat you up. When you started putting on makeup and acting gay they treated you special. You took it to the extreme david. Your brain mapped reward with sex. You thought this would be the best job in the world because people would lust upon you and you would get paid for it. Short term david. Very short term in the game of life.

    That old fucker took advantage of your naivety. I bet he had a past for being a sexual predator. You became the outlet for his lechery and that I think took it's toll on you the most.

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  176. I don't believe you are a drug dealer with a low education. Unless you are at least a guy in his fifties, at least ...

    I'll take that as a compliment.

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  177. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLungGziP0&feature=related

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  179. David, you're giving yourself excuses for your failures. Like hen sweet said the other day that some people just arent capable of growth... That's bunk, and believing relationships are unattainable for you is a cop out for you not to have to change and face your issues. You're hoping for a magic pill that will make you all better one day, or a realization that will make your problems disappear, or a label that will make your whole life make sense. But it does make sense, David, you just refuse to see how. You try to be something you arent, while you're still being the thing that you are. Nothing changes if nothing changes, and right now your life is comfortable enough for you not to change. The change still scares you so much you cant move out of the devil you know. And you want to sell us the lies you tell yourself, but we can all see the bunk. It's only you who can't.

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  180. Your greed was your naivety, can't you see that? He died old and broken not because of your action but because of his own. He was fucking himself long before he ever touched your cock. Indeed he fucked himself many cocks ago. He wasn't a mark he was a disease. You are carrying the burden now. He died old and broken and now your living the same way. I bet he was hermit like. Alone. Try to see past the fog, can you see your life becoming a resemblence not to long down the line?

    Wv stings

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  181. Missus

    I never said people couldn't grow, I was telling Caroline that there are people who can't feel intimacy. That statement was a general statement. Regarding myself, I said that I was UNSURE. Never have I stated that I was beyond help or wasn't willing to work on it. Don't tie me in with your argument with David.

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  182. David, Do you feel like it would help if you were a sociopath? Would it make all the things people have done to you more bareable?

    wv:
    mister

    I just needed an excuse to use that.

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  183. I didn't intend to compare what you were saying so much as what he's doing. It's an excuse for him to stay where he is. Like thinking some people can't obtain intimacy is a justification not to try.

    Let's summarize it by saying thinking something is impossible for you is a learned helplessness not to attempt to in the first place. It's submitting to failure

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  184. “Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.” -- John Lennon.

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  185. I agree with you Misses. Just had to clarify on my part. I think David should at least try to work on his issues before coming to any conclusions.

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  186. I am freeing man from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge, from the dirty and degrading self-mortification of a false vision called ‘conscience and morality,’ and from the demands of a freedom and independence which only a very few can bear…. The Ten Commandments have lost their validity. ’Conscience’ is a Jewish invention, a blemish like circumcision.” -Hitler

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