Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Fictional sociopaths: Hurt Locker

A psychologist suggests a fictional depiction of a psychopath is the protagonist from the Hurt Locker:
Patrick Bateman in the film American Psycho inserts a chainsaw into a prostitute. Alex in A Clockwork Orange fantasizes about torture and slaughter while listening to music. 
But psychopaths can wreak havoc in workplaces without stabbing, or eating, their colleagues.
"It's a much more ordinary condition than those movies portray. They aren't more intelligent than the rest of us," Dr Polaschek said. 
She suggested another movie character for a different look at psychopaths: Sergeant First Class William James in The Hurt Locker. 
James joins a bomb disposal team in Iraq and quickly earns the distrust of his comrades through his lack of care. 
"He could well be a psychopath, but he doesn't do anything to hurt anybody. He's a bit of a cowboy and does a fearless kind of work tracking those improvised explosives, and he doesn't work well in a team."
The researcher goes on to opine:
Dr Polaschek said it was a complex disorder - there was no clear line dividing a common and commendable display of boldness from full-blown psychopathy. 
"But there probably isn't such a thing as a harmless psychopath. People who live for themselves and for the day will tend to blunder around, causing harm to people - because that's not how society works." 
I think this sign represents his character well (and the awkwardness of a sociopath trying to deal with someone's very emotional state, rather unsuccessfully):



Sergeant JT Sanborn: I'm ready to die, James.
Staff Sergeant William James: Well, you're not gonna die out here, bro.
Sergeant JT Sanborn: Another two inches, shrapnel zings by; slices my throat- I bleed out like a pig in the sand. Nobody'll give a shit. I mean my parents- they care- but they don't count, man. Who else? I don't even have a son.
Staff Sergeant William James: Well, you're gonna have plenty of time for that, amigo.
Sergeant JT Sanborn: Naw, man. I'm done. I want a son. I want a little boy, Will. I mean, how do you do it, you know? Take the risk?
Staff Sergeant William James: I don't know. I guess I don't think about it.
Sergeant JT Sanborn: But you realize every time you suit up, every time we go out, it's life or death. You roll the dice, and you deal with it. You recognize that don't you?
Staff Sergeant William James: Yea... Yea, I do. But I don't know why.
[sighs]
Staff Sergeant William James: I don't know, JT. You know why I'm the way I am?
Sergeant JT Sanborn: No, I don't.

428 comments:

  1. I think trying to diagnose fictional characters with personality disorders is pretty fucking pointless. Unless they were specifically written to have a certain pd, then you could try to see how realistically they portray a their pd, which only tells you something about how much research the writers did and how much they care about following reality as closely as possible.

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  2. Right couldn't he just be in shock from PTS.

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  3. Very few empaths can deal with hard, tough emotions such as one has from being raped, for example. I do not care for cocktail party talk when I really need to talk about things that are killing me inside and may actually kill me if I can't get them out. The sociopath allows you to tell him and thereby tell yourself. I am coming out of a horrible darkness with the help of a sociopath. She is the only one, in my life, who has helped me this way.It is funny because when I see that clip, I cannot relate. My g/f is saving my life.
    You might say,"What does she get out of it?" She wants to show someone her face, too.

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  4. It's about time that the real sociopaths like UKan took over this place. It was going to happen eventually.

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  5. He could just be an adrenalin junkie but I think he's probably a sociopath. He picked chasing thrills over spending time with his family and he constantly disobeys orders and puts his friends at risk. I think there was even a part at the end where admits to his infant son that he loves war more than his family.

    Clearly nobody cares about your stupid lesbian fantasy Erin. I'd stick to the one about your son killing himself.

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  6. Sounds like something I'd put on my resume, "I'm a loser sociopath with no life". impressive. You people are sick, should be rounded up and sent to fight this worlds wars. Because no one cares if you people die, because you are evil sick and damaged.

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  7. Fagsz after this line

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  8. I'm not a fag man!!!

    I'm a cool sociopath

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  9. I'm a fag. See above.

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  10. I'm a fag. See above.

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  13. Anonymous is cool yo

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  14. I am a real sociopath. If you never out horse in your ass, you are a fake sociopath.






    wv:mule

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  15. In the name of God, I ask for everyones help. I read more blogs from our family member. We are so worried for his safety. He is using a few blog account names that we can see. This is out of control, please tell me what to do ? We don't want him to go to jail again.

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  16. niggerpath DAT U?

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  17. I know who Worried Sick is lol

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  18. I'm worried sick.

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  19. Don call me a nigger yo. its hurtful en stuff

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  20. Wake up David you dumb poof. If I were also UKan and MK I wouldn't have time to sleep, and I would have to comment from three different devices simultaneously while switching between accounts. I would also have to type at superhuman levels of speed. What's more is that if I were Ukan alone he would've had to keep it up for over a year, all the while talking to himself and using a character to attack people that he was already going after, or eventually ended up going after by himself anyways. What would be the point of it? You have no proof, the only thing you're basing it on is the fact that we both write in an aggressive and abrasive style which, as I've told you, is all an act anyways. If I were to change my syle it would probably make your tiny little brain explode through the sheer amount of confusion you'd experience you fucking simpleton.

    You're embarrassing yourself and once again you've ended up looking like a total fool. You really do land on your knees every fucking time, don't you.

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  21. Misanthrope

    Are you a little girl ?

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  23. "I would have to comment from three different devices simultaneously while switching between accounts. I would also have to type at superhuman levels of speed."

    So you lack the brains to do that. Not everyone is as stupid as you are.

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  24. Writers might not care how an actor made something work. It just fits. It's great when the personalities are consistent throughout the piece, but it doesn't mean the writer and actor agreed on a perceived pd.

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  25. Mis is I know who.

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  26. That's pretty hot. ^

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  27. *I* will do the job of entertaining Worried Sick. WHAT, exactly, did your family member write in the blogs?

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  28. I have a life which is why I don't have time for all the bullshit that you and your fucked up mind have suddenly decided to pull out whatever world you live in. From what I've seen you're the only person who manages to spend all day hanging about this place like a bad smell. So go out and live your own miserable life, spend christmas sitting in the dark getting pissed on cheap wine and watching reruns of sex and the city. That's the most you can hope for.

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  29. Hey SW!!! :) Doing great. Me and my husband are having such a great time. Just thought I'd drop by and let you see some of our holiday snaps<3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQv31NKexiE

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  30. I am a cop with a detectives mind. Mis is UKan. Take it from a professional.

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  31. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahhahaha

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  32. Monica is Bluebird, Mis. Erin is too retarded to write like that.

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  34. HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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  35. I pitched tiny chat but no one bit.

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  36. Oh shut up for once Ami you pathetic little slag. Go back to your shitty little site and write more of your own testimonials, or go back to your worthless blog and have more conversations with yourself over there. Peole avoid you online just like they do in real life. That's because you're repulsive, obnoxious and it's unbearable to spend more than two minutes speaking to you.

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  37. @TCO

    was this you pretending to be sweet? i think it was. you sick puppy,i have lost respect for you now :)

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  38. Does UKan impersonate woman as well as horses or just men?

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  40. Sick puppy ? Yes.

    Me pretending... to be anyone? Why?

    Respect? ok

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  41. UKan as a Horse says...December 21, 2011 at 5:43 AM

    neighhhhhh

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  42. "talk to someone else, you're quantité négligeable to me ..."

    I'll take that as your way of admitting to being an idiot with no way of backing up his claims.

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  43. That last Monica was not I. I don't know who you think I am, Mis, but I am Monica, hun.

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  45. For sociopaths... there are a lot of hurt feelings, and extreme emotions being seen here.

    Remember your "masks" fella's.

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  46. I know the truth.

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  47. Themes for SW Regulars "Event" SeriesDecember 21, 2011 at 5:46 AM

    Theme song for the question "WHO is UKan?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeF7jqf0GU4

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  48. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VOu_BszChIE


    Will someone please talk about this ....advert ?

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  49. @The Chosen One Good Morning. How are you, today?

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  50. @David Yup, Mis do you want circus work?

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  51. Horse reacting to UKan's real picDecember 21, 2011 at 5:52 AM

    Whoa nelly!!!

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  53. Hehe this is my husbands favorite! (:

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  54. @Caroline

    Hello, afternoon here. Enjoying the sun and beach. Heading out for a boat ride soon.

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  55. The funniest picture to ever come on SW goes to Monica with her picture of James Mannion/Ukan/Mis

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  56. @ 5:46


    Idk, my sibling once spilled piping hot coffee on a bf who ended up punching me once.

    Then all our parents concluded I had antagonized him with words. They were afraid to "make waves" with him.

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  57. @TCO Talk to you, later.

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  58. @enabling abuse ROLFL

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  59. Monica I m really curious as to how your gf 's showing u her face?

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  60. Theme Songs for SW Regulars "general Categorizations"December 21, 2011 at 6:00 AM

    Mis Theme Song. It just seems like Mis.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mu9prm2hVs&feature=related

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  61. It's hilarious that Ami calls herself "horse". It has got to be due to facial similarities. :D

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  62. Who is Ami? I frrl like such a Greenhorne.

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  63. I don't know who Ami is, either?

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  64. fagz above this line ^^^^^^^^^^^

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  65. Ami is whoever you want to beleive she/he is.

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  66. http://www.policeone.com/standoff/articles/77223-The-many-different-faces-of-domestic-violence/

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  67. The horse picture was not I. I am here to be serious, so if people do weird things, it is not I.

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  68. People keep bringing Ami up. Why?

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  69. Then make a blog profile Monica. Take a few mintues.

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  71. I'm also UKan, Monica, Mis, David, and 10 of the Anons.

    I've been talking to myself for days...... and.... I ... can't.... stop....

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  72. I have to fly, in a minute and I mean in a real plane. To answer you question, about my g/f. No one has ever known her. She is letting me see who she is. All people want to been seen. It is a human need.


    @TCO I don't want to make a blogger account. If anyone acts poorly, it is not I.

    Bye for now, Everyone and Merry Christmas

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  74. Thanks for clearing that up David. She's the chatty Gemini right?

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  75. "She ran after I outed her, but I know she isn't angry at me anymore ;)"

    Actually she stayed months after you got her to give up her site. She left because she was "given a sign from god" if I remember correctly.

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  76. Does y'all think the bpd enables her own abuse?

    Does y'all think da socio can enables his abuse ?

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  77. Cock muncher. Don't forget the mayo.

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  79. We're gonna need a bigger boat.

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  80. YES, you idiot!

    How do you think there are so many with records? Don't you know all pd people have criminal records?

    Clogging the freakn courts, takin my money for their shite.

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  82. I would knock the dust off Ami's shit.

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  83. Ami is boring. Can we move on?

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  84. Just caught a decent sized Red Snapper.

    Lunch anyone ?

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  85. You screwed the whole thing up. You didn't even try to blackmail her and you let an anon get his hands on the information so we couldn't even play games with her. People were laughing at you as well as her for having no talent for what you were trying to do. Don't forget to mention all that.

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  86. Ur so cool Misanthrope. I want to be like you when I grow up! A loser!

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  87. Merry Christmas Anyone want some nog?

    Openings for the Possee, if any men want to join? Mis, how about you?

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  88. Most Ferocious Sociopath AwardDecember 21, 2011 at 6:35 AM

    Mis gets the award for the most ferocious sociopath. Happy, Mis?

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  89. Egg nog is tastey with cinnamon, and a fresh mint leaf.

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  91. don't dis da Mis
    he piss awn ya Sis

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  92. It's the quiet ones you need to watch out for.

    Calm, cool, collected = bad news.

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  93. Calm, cool, collected = Anxiety.

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  94. @David yep.

    I actually like jury duty and and am usually disappointed when I can't do it.

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  95. Really Anon 6:38?

    Post a link to your research. Raw data please. And medical journal entries.

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  96. calm cool and collected = white heat

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  97. A slick load mouth will always bring down a logical collected person. People look for style over substance you bozo.

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  98. FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK u

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  100. y does socia so angry and evulz?

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  101. really? what kind of people 6:41?

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  103. Narcissistic people. Which is basically everyone.

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  104. Any man want to join the cool guys?

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  105. Its headless. Got a few ocean cats. All keepers. I like cats better.

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  106. SOCIO THEME SONG !!!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJHmc5tPSo

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  107. i am going to inject your veins with eggnog while you are sleeping after paralyzing you with ether.

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  108. 646
    that brought a tear to my third eye.

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  109. Anon 6:46 Was that directed to Frank?

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  110. TCO does not seem mean like a sociopath. Are you mean to people?

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  111. if frank is Mis, then yes! Nothing personal, Mis.

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  113. I am not mean for no reason. Who needs to draw attention to ones self other than an idiot ?

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  115. psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believes psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claims sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. Both personality disorders are the result of an interaction between genetic predispositions and environmental factors, but psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental.

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  116. "Who needs to draw attention to ones self other than an idiot ?"

    That's what anon accounts are for.

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  117. Professionals not only dispute whether there is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath, but among those that believe there is a difference, there is dispute over what those differences are.


    Of the more distinguishing traits, some argue the sociopath to be less organized in his or her demeanor, nervous and easily agitated – someone likely living on the fringes of society, without solid or consistent economic support. A sociopath is more likely to spontaneously act out in inappropriate ways without thinking through the consequences.

    Conversely, some argue that the psychopath tends to be extremely organized, secretive and manipulative. The outer personality is often charismatic and charming, hiding the real person beneath. Though psychopaths do not feel for others, they can mimic behaviors that make them appear normal. Upon meeting, one would have more of a tendency to trust a psychopath than a sociopath.

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  118. Good morning everyone.

    Are we still harping on about Erin? Ignore her. She keeps coming back because even negative attention and abuse is better than none.

    And now i will never mention her again.

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  119. sociopaths are less grandiose and can be loyal. psychopaths believe they are above ALL.

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  120. None of the Monicas who have posted today have been the real one. _I_ am the real Monica.

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  121. "I don't see the point to seriously terrorize people just for fun"

    The point is that it is fun. You don't have to be angry at someone to enjoy hurting them. Just as you don't have to be in love with someone to enjoy fucking with them. Just think of them as mannequins there to be used in whatever way you like.

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  122. Blogger TheChosenOne said...

    I am not mean for no reason. Who needs to draw attention to ones self other than an idiot ?


    Please M.E Put this in the Twitter. Let this be SW theme song he he

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  123. //psychopaths believe they are above ALL.//

    I don't "believe" these things ;)

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  125. sociopath - drug addicted compulsive bank robber. always in trouble with the law.


    psychopath - boy/girl next door. charming on the surface. extremely narcissistic and possibly sadistic, beneath. barely in trouble with the law.

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  126. Mis is rough and tough. We got it, Mis.

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  127. Are we still harping on about David? Ignore him. He keeps coming back because even negative attention and abuse is better than none.

    And now I will never mention him again.

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  128. Aftering reading what the Doctor wrote, are you saying you are less intelligent Misan ?

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  129. @TCO Do you have any empathy at all? Were you born that way or abused? Thank you. Glad you are here, btw.

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  130. TCO, Haven's right. Just ignore her.

    7:06 is her, btw

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  131. @Anon 7:06

    My emotions are watered down. But there is social emotion.

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  132. The person posting as Anonymous is not the real Anonymous. I am the real Anonymous, I have always used that name. I don't like it when other people pose as Anonymous and say stupid stuff.

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  133. Because she's the only one who's glad you are here.

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  134. @Anon 7:08

    I'm not following that convo.

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  135. @TCO Could you kill someone and not feel anything?

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  136. I thought you said you were smart?

    You should ignore Ami completely. The only way she'll ever leave is if we shut her out completely, savvy?

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  138. @TCO Were you born without empathy?

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  139. Psychopaths are very similar to narcissists. Rather than being similar to a sociopath (ASPD)

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  140. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I thought you said you were smart?

    You should ignore Ami completely. The only way she'll ever leave is if we shut her out completely, savvy?


    I agree 100%

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  141. Born with very little if any at all.

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  142. psychopaths are a monster in hiding.

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  144. @David,

    I am close to family. My family know of my PD, and treat me no different than they always have. I do notice more thought behind words when talking about some issues. But other then that, business as usual.

    However... they do "use" me often, when buying a used car, or asking the guy next door to stop banging and playing loud music so much. Perfect poker face I've been told. Don't know how to play poker though.

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  145. @TCO

    Most socios are very domineering towards their family. Are you like this ? Yes the family are always objects.

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  146. The one genuine socio i knew had an extremely cold relationship with his family. I never seen any affection between the family. They tried to show him warmth, but he had no sense of loyalty to his family.

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  147. I answered the questions you are asking yesterday. You may or may not be one of the reg Anons around this drama mill.

    But the answers are typed out.

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  148. @TCO I think there is a distinct difference between "sociopaths/psychopaths" who are born that way and those who were abused. The abused ones are like UKan.

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  149. Do you have a history of violence, or bullying behavior. Most socios do. They regularly harass people. That doesn't mean a criminal record.

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  150. David = Narc

    Ukan = sociopath

    Chosen = Narc/Aspie

    Mis = Sadist

    Zahq = Narc

    TNP = Pretty cool guy who lacks some empathy and feels pretty good about himself (PCGWLSEFPGAH)

    Medusa = Ice queen

    Haven = BPD

    Ami = Dangerously bipolar

    Eden = Bipolar Sociopath

    Wheatley = Normal dude

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  151. @Anon 7:40 My last post is still up.

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  152. @Wheatley Normal dude lol
    I wonder who wrote that?

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  154. Some masks are more tiring than others. It's the new age happy hippy types that I get tired of interacting with. They are in most cases, faker than I.

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  155. @David

    could you beat an animal with a stick and not feel bad?

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  156. "It's the new age happy hippy types that I get tired of interacting with. They are in most cases, faker than I."

    It's worse when they're genuine. It's like willful delusions of cupcakes and rainbow unicorn shit.

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  158. @TCO You are like another SW member, now gone, who was very congenial, very nice to talk to and very interesting. This person was close to her family, too.

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  160. I have a dog. He is well trained, and obeys. Protection for my home, and doesn't talk back. Can't beat that... pardon the pun.

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  162. I have a cat. He occasionally responds to his name, greets me at the door, eats as much as I'll let him and is exceptionally good at keeping my lap warm, making my feet fall asleep, and obstructing my computer monitor.

    He's the best thing ever. I never understood the hurts animals thing. I suppose it's a power motivation.

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  163. @TCO
    Can you charm woman, easily?

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  164. @TCO Has a woman ever gotten under your skin, emotionally, that is :)

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  165. I have dated a few whinny ones.

    You do know that I am a human right ? Not a robot... I get angry and frustrated like most people.

    I eat too.

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  167. You eat too? Well now I'm totally disillusioned ;)

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  169. It's true. Not lying this time. Turkey, mash, and rice.

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  170. Your hat is cute, David.

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  171. Tortured fish? Idiot.

    You did fuck the whole ami thing up david. You have the subtlety of a elephant stomping through a crowded mall. The minute you got the info you just threw it on here. What does it matter. You threw all if your information on here to. In fact you exposed yourself more than you did ami.

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  172. I think the SW woman like a certain someone.

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  173. Haven had it right. Forget about Erin, already.

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  174. I thought the guy from Hurt Locker was a sociopath when I saw it. He was in it for the thrills undoubted. He was more loyal to his jollies than a patriot to his country.

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  175. Theme Songs for SW RegularsDecember 21, 2011 at 9:39 AM

    Theme Song for Eden no 3


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7sLNyIeQk&feature=related

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