Monday, December 26, 2011

Sociopaths = vampires?

Does this seem familiar? The plot of the Swedish film "Let the Right One In":
A fragile introverted boy, 12-year-old Oskar (Kåre Hedebrant), is regularly bullied by his stronger classmates but never strikes back. His wish for a friend comes true when he meets Eli (Lina Leandersson), also 12, who moves into the apartment next door with a man who is presumably her father. But coinciding with Eli's arrival is a series of disappearances and macabre murders—a man is found strung up in a tree, another frozen in the lake, a woman bitten in the neck.

Captivated by the gruesome stories and by Eli’s idiosyncrasies (she is only seen at night, and unaffected by the freezing cold), it doesn't take long before Oskar figures out that Eli is a vampire. Nevertheless, their friendship strengthens, and a subtle romance blossoms as the youngsters become inseparable. In spite of Oskar’s loyalty to her, Eli knows that she can only continue to live if she keeps on moving. But when Oskar faces his darkest hour, Eli returns to defend him the only way she can...

Based on the best-selling novel by John Ajvide Lindqvist, Swedish filmmaker Tomas Alfredson weaves friendship, rejection and loyalty into a haunting and darkly atmospheric, yet poetic and unexpectedly tender tableau of adolescence.
The connections between sociopaths and vampires are obvious. Sociopaths are sometimes described as emotional vampires, and modern day vampire covens seem to be all about the psychopath. Some think that the vampire myth originates from vampires. It makes sense: life-sucking, preternaturally powerful, charming, seductive, dangerous... and somehow always falling in love with or befriending normal humans. Hard to know why that is, but I hope all the vampire love will spill over a little onto the sociopaths.

208 comments:

  1. Hey, that's pretty interesting, on account of my mom and I always used to refer to sociopaths as vampires. We ourselves have bipolar disorder (a very different diagnosis, not really related to personality) and sometimes we joke about being werewolves. So there are werewolves and vampires.

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  2. As an ostensible "sociopath" myselves, I identify more with Werewolves. Ever hear that song by Warren Zevon?

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  3. I think the connections between the vampire mythos and sociopaths is blatant and self-evident and that plainly the vampire myth comes - at least in part - from the behavior of sociopaths.

    Further, I honestly believe that the infatuation with vampires by so many empaths simply exemplifies a very real desire on their part to be prey, to be objectified, abused, used and then tossed aside by someone stronger than they are. I think empaths are inherently masochistic, at least emotionally; and since I am inherently sadistic it makes for a good match. I give them what they want and they do the same for me.

    Not only do I think the vampire/sociopath association is obvious, but I even play upon it. No, I don't dress up like a vampire or have a blood fetish or anything, but I do play along with the vampiric seduction technique and appeal. And when you have a real sucker on the line, someone just so desperate to be used for fear of loneliness, it can be wonderful. Testing their limits and making them sink lower and lower, debasing and degrading themselves in an impossible quest to "top from the bottom" and enslave me in "love".

    It is simply intoxicating and fabulous and all their own fault. I just provide the impetus to allow them to lay aside their ego and pretensions and become the submissive slave they really want to be. Neither the vampire myth nor the sociopath could flourish if it weren't for the fact that so many of the sheep want to be devoured and are stupid enough to lay their hearts on our tongues and dare us to bite. Oh no, they want to be be bit, there can be no doubt about it, and I am happy to oblige. :)

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  4. I agree, Dyonysus. Mos everything you've said here is common knowledge at least for me.

    M.E.,

    This movie is another good example of the effect upon Scandinavian movie-making the national mentality and situation has.

    I'll let a friend of mine take the word:

    "People there are bred specifically to not grow up, to be children of the state who can't - and wouldn't if they were 'allowed' to - think for themselves and make their own decisions.

    Also, the theme around the boy who gets bullied is a very central topic to the Scandinavian countries. They have - according to sociological reports that keep coming - been haunted by a bullying-pest for decades, but even more so by a self censure where no one is allowing themselves nor each other to differ from the mainstream (ref. Hans Christian Andersen's "The Ugly Duckling", and many others).

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  5. Vampires come from Vlad the Impaler, so yea I'd say Vampires can be pretty sociopathic. I thought emotional vampires were those creepy kids in the corner at parties that enjoyed ruining the mood?

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    It sickens me to see someone submit to me. Unless they deserve it, I have no satisfaction from their pain. So many sub guys out there bowing and scraping. I'd probably send them to the hospital if I let loose on one. I'd rather emotionally scar up a dominant type just one time and call it a day.

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  7. I like that you pull out these old articles, ME, with some of the original posters. Great stuff!

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  8. Although Vampires can be seen in lore around the world at various times from a few centuries ago all the way to antiquity, it wasn't until the 19th century that the modern stylized sociopathic vampire was popularized. Before, they were pretty much just another thing that goes bump in the night.

    That's hardly an ancient throwback to sociopathy.

    I do see the modern vampire through pop-culture as being a representation of psychopaths, so long as you don't include the ones that sparkle.

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  9. I, always, fall in love with the vampires. Doctor, what is wrong with me?

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  10. You have a terminal case of whore. Im afraid theirs nothing we can do about it

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  11. @Dr socio I ALWAYS get second opinions.

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  12. 1. A certain Charisma and charm. They always have an answer, are smooth talkers, and never ever
    miss a beat. Excitement is their middle name!
    2. Possess Enormous egos. A sociopath will often act like they are the smartest, most successful, or richest man/woman around. They often like to brag about that.
    3. Super-duper Overly attentive. What may seem flattering a first–someone who constantly calls, texts and emails, will quickly turn into someone who wants to be with you every single second, resenting time you spend with family and friends. .
    4. You will see a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personality. Just flip the switch to see someone who loves you one minute and hates you the next.
    5. Obsessively Blame others. Someone else, not them is always the cause of their problems. It’s never their fault and and excuse is always close at hand.
    6. Blatant Lies and gaps in the story. When you question them, answers are often vague, sprinkled with stupid ..often outrageous lies. They even lie when the truth would save them.
    7. Super Intense eye contact. You could refer to it as a predatory stare. Pay attention, if you feel chills running down your spine when they look at you…you might want to trust your instincts.
    8. Always Move fast. All of a sudden, YOU are their true love and soul mate. Often a sociopath wants to move right in together or get married NOW!
    9. They can’t avoid the Pity play. They will often appeal to your savior complex or play on your sympathy. They need for you to feel sorry for an abusive childhood that they experience, trouble with psychotic ex, their incurable disease or recent financial setbacks.
    10. Sexual magnetism. Sociopaths draw people to them like a “moth to the flame”.

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  13. Anon
    That says it all :(

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  14. From another borderline pretending to be a spathDecember 26, 2011 at 7:34 AM

    "just one of the many reasons why I hate humanity.

    A while ago someone had shown me a video recorded by the american military in afghanistan, one guy holding the camera to record, and two (or three) other men (I can’t remember exactly it was a while ago) and they had come across this dog who looked like it was starving and needed food and water.

    The one soldier goes up to the dog, and the dog starts to wag it’s little tail and starts to become happy and licks the soldier. The soldier then lifts the dog up, walks over to the cliff, and throws the dog over. He then starts laughing histerically while the guy behind the camera says “Oh man dude, why did you do that?”

    I just remembered the video today, and I just started bawling. I would do anything for an animal, even die for one. I love my dog with all my life. I could care less if the soldier threw another soldier over the cliff, but a dog?

    I really wish I could have been there to push him over and save the dog. I fucking hate humans. All of them."

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  15. "Well I am working again.

    I feel very uncomfortable around people now.

    A customer tried to make small talk with me, and all I could reply back to her was a little nervous laugh, and then I would continue on dusting (yes my duties were to clean for 4 hours, such great use of me)

    I can see it now, I’ve just started this new job and already they find me useless.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if that bitch tells her husband to get rid of me.

    At least I didn’t do what the other new girl did.

    Start a fight with a customer.

    Not a very good thing to do on your first day, just sayin LOL

    I’ve never met the girl yet, since there is a total of 4 staff members, plus 2 store owners.

    I’m always either working with the other two experienced staff.

    This job was supposed to be a saturday, sunday and monday job, but it’s turned out to be an everyday job. It doesn’t bug me much though, considering it’s way easy and the pay is good, I just have a very hard time when it comes to social interactions with people who couldn’t give a fuck about me, all they want is their purchase and to be out the door.
    "

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  16. Their name "sociopathdiaries" HAHA

    "Went into mcdonalds with my boyfriend.

    I would look around and notice everyones eyes gazing upon me.

    Then they would look away, except one.

    He was standing infront of us.

    He just kept staring and staring.

    I was about to blow up.

    I fucking can’t stand it when people stare at me.

    He just wouldn’t fucking quit it.

    So I hid behind my boyfriends shoulder, hoping he would stop.

    So then he went behind us and just kept watching me.

    I have got to be honest here, I’m not the greatest looking person, so I had no idea why this man was so intrigued by me, unless he could sense something.

    He didn’t look like a normal person.

    He seemed very odd. Something wasn’t right about him.

    I was very close to snapping infront of all those people.

    I wanted to gouge his eyeballs out."

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  17. WTF..She thinks she is a spath?

    "When I was younger, a girlfriend of mine and I were curious. We were best friends and we played together every day. I can’t remember if I made the first move. We touched each other.

    Sometimes we would take our clothes off and wrestle in bed.

    We’d hold our bodies really tight against each other and my body would ache.

    It was wonderful. It felt good, the feeling of her skin against mine.

    My underwear would be drenched.

    We took a bath together at her house one day. Her mother thought it was just something little girls would do with their friends. Her father knew better.

    As we were in the bath tub, her father walked in and locked the door. He watched both of us as we sat there and he came closer and sat down by the bath tub.

    Everything after that is a blank.

    I have issues with having sex with someone.

    I only enjoy it when I’m being raped."

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  18. That is so sad. I am sorry you went through that.

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  19. Most women enjoy being raped in a way.

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  20. Theme Songs for SW RegularsDecember 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM

    Theme Song for Frankfurt


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meuwKhPGItk

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  21. "I hope all the vampire love will spill over a little onto the sociopaths."

    explain this?

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  22. I cant speak for "most women" or "normal women" or whoever... I have bpd and strong fear/violence/force/rape associations with arousal. I do not believe, from seeing the look of horror in my NT friends eyes when I have discussed some of the bdsm activities I have taken part in, that NT women are turned on by rape as much as socios seem to think they are. I believe that is just a justification to invade the rights and boundaries of others. Rape a woman and then tell her she wanted it. Only gals like me actually want it, and even still, only on our own terms. No woman wants actual rape, no matter how much porn or your low empathy allows you to believe the contrary. The ones who do are far more damaged than even me. Severe bpd. Those are the ones you dont want to fuck with. They are the ones who are likely to stalk you afterwards, and maybe even castrate you in your sleep.

    And as for vampires, the modern image is actually based on Lord Byron who was known to be quite the Cassanova.

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  23. Michael Martin PlunkettDecember 26, 2011 at 10:04 AM

    caroline im happy ya came for another opinion i can reexamine ur case provide a solution make all ur problems disappear

    fact 1: many sociopaths are very superficially charming except those who are not

    fact 2: there are many women out there who only get turned on by the sociopaths they cant get interested about the average joes at all i think the reason for this is genetic or maybe they have the sexual fetish

    solution: ya must only date and marry men who ya dont find attractive who dont turn ya on they might not be exciting but they will make good providers for ur kids ya can still have sex with the sociopaths if ya remember to be careful always use protection especially when the sociopath is different race from the husband because even the nerdy guys can get jealous possessive annoying and difficult cause ya a lot of problems

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  24. Lol. You contradict yourself. You say that most women don't want to be raped, but then right after you state that you do. Deep down women have an urge to be raped. The only reason why some complain is because some guys are too rough or they are trying hard to supress the urge so the guy has to use a lot more force.

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  25. @Mike Good point about the race in case I got pregnant and the child was a different color

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  26. Crass, if you had reading comprehension skills at all, you would be able to recognize that I am not "most women" or NT or whatever label you want. Just because there are those of us damaged enough to get off on it does not mean that most or all women do. And I also stated that even then, it is pseudo-rape, because rape, by definition goes against consent. If I consent to a rape scenario, in actuality, it is not rape.

    The danger lies in those who believe the "truth" (which is not true, it is just a twisted rationalization) that all women desire to be raped. We dont. Some of us do enjoy being taken forcefully, but we wouldnt want just any random jackass to do it.

    I know my socio friend likes to think he is pushing me beyond my limits, so I play along, struggle, pull away, make him work harder... but it is not rape.

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  27. She really didn't contridict herself. Sarah said she's not in the 'most' catagory.

    Sarah point for normals was very good.

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  28. Michael Martin PlunkettDecember 26, 2011 at 10:31 AM

    exactly what i was thinking about i once knew a couple who got 3 kids the first 1 was ugly like the father the 2nd didnt look like the father at all everyone else knew this but the father he wuldnt allow himself to see the truth but when the 3rd kid was born and was different color thats when he was forced to face the truth the guy was a door mat but had his limits the marriage ended and that was a bad thing for the wife i think because the guy was filthy rich owned a supermarket

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  29. @Mike You are a cutie

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  30. Frankfurt's song represents that darned guy.

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  31. too many womans luv the sociopath. get off me crazy womans. i kill you like the stankbug!

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  32. Dexter isn't a sociopath, he just has some kind of depression.

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  33. Dexter isnt anything except a literary and television character. If he were real, he would be a psychopath, except the tv showrunners dont get psychopaths (obviously) because they went and humanized him somewhat by giving him the capacity for loving familial bonds after the first two seasons.

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  34. how do you manipulate a narcissist?

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  35. Women dont really love sociopaths, it is just that sociopathic males (and narc ones) tend towards charm when it comes to ladies and have no qualms about saying whatever is necessary to appear to be what the woman wants (or thinks she wants). Healthy, well adjusted women may fall for it in the short term, but only women with pds (bpd or co-d) will stick around and enable their own abuse. The same can be said for female socios/narcs and their lovers.

    Sometimes we get what we want, but find out later that it is not really what we need. The key is learning from it. That's the hard part for men and women. Its not about gender as much as personality.

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  36. please don't ignore me..how do you manipulate a narcissist?

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  37. You manipulate a narc, just like manipulating a socio (or anyone else for that matter) you make them feel like they have the control. Its actually easier to manipulate a manipulator because they tend to think everyone else is too dumb to do it and they dont even look for the signs.

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  38. dexter is half human, half socio. he has a redeemable side. so the audience can relate a little. he's not a full blown classic socio. if he was people would find him repulsive.

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  39. @anon 1:02

    Since when are psychopaths always nice to everyone? Don't manipulate anyone unless they really need to? Don't lie even when they need to? He doesn't bully anyone, doesn't abuse anyone, only lies when he needs to, doesn't care about power. There's no way this dude's a psychopath.

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  40. You manipulate a narcissist by criticizing them. That's not gonna work with a sociopath because they don't give a flying fucking about critizism.

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  41. for example -- dexter hunts down the "scum" of our world. in reality it's the total opposite with socios. socios prey on the nicest and most vulnerable of society. who would want to watch that? only a bunch of low empathy folk.

    also, dexter isn't nauseatingly arrogant like real life socios. dexter is basically living out every empaths fantasies.

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  42. bateman is most like a real life spath, because he targets the weak -- women, children, or old people. everyone is a target to bateman. he's "cowardly" and doesn't attack anyone who will put up a fight.

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  43. He doesnt care about power? What do you think murder is? It is the ultimate power. God power.

    And smart socios know it is easy to manipulate others (impression management) by being nice to them. At least to their face. Hell, smart people in general know that. It doesnt take a socio.

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  44. I think Bateman is more narc with psychotic tendencies. Psychopaths arent psychotic. Psychopaths dont need to be told by the atm to feed it a cat.

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  45. @Anon 1:21

    What about the rest of my arguments?

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  46. @ Sarah Good point.

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  47. the anti social pd's don't care that much about appearances, they lack that kind of narcissism that a psychopath has. a psychopath is well liked by people that know them on surface levels. the superficial charm is called superficial, because it's put on and fake. it masks the true deceitful and callous person beneath.

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  48. @About the superficial charm---- -Is it a TOTAL act?

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  49. Superficial charm is a load of crap. Everyone tries to be nice because that's the way people have to behave, even though they're all bad on the inside. It doesn't matter if your kidness is fake. Kindness is kindness.

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  50. i don't think you can class him as psychotic, because it wasn't a frequent even. he was in the midst of his many murders when that event took place. i wouldn't say that psychopaths are incapable of having a nervous breakdown and losing touch with reality.

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  51. yes it's a total act. it doesn't come from genuine kindness. it's like how pedophiles groom children to further abuse them. it's goal orientated.

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  52. "Superficial charm is a tactic used by sociopaths to get their way. By looking good and acting nice on the surface, they hide their true personalities, which are often very selfish and uncaring, possibly even sadistic. The "charm" is entirely insincere."

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  53. Everyone's out for themselves. Everyone's self-interested. We all are, we're born that way. The rest of us are born with consciences and remorse. And most of empaths can't admit it to themselves because they've been taught their whole lives that being selfish was a bad thing.

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  54. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Everyone's out for themselves. Everyone's self-interested. We all are, we're born that way. The rest of us are born with consciences and remorse. And most of empaths can't admit it to themselves because they've been taught their whole lives that being selfish was a bad thing.




    This is what I am getting at. We ALL are selfish but what is the difference with the sociopath?


    No conscience and empathy, I guess.

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  55. pathological lies are frequently part of the superficial charm. to fool you into believing the person is something they are not.

    an example would be a 40 year old sociopath that tries to lure a 13 year old onto her web cam. the man would ask for her age, when she tells him she is 13. he replies back that he is 15. he then finds and image of an attractive young boy and uses it as his picture. then he will basically fabricate a whole new character to impress her and attain his goal.

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  56. sociopaths are sly motherfuckers.

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  57. they lack common sense and wisdom though.

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  58. What socios dont get about people without apd is that yes, while everyone has levels of self interest which are important for survival, most people do not coldly or callusly infringe on other people for their own gain. When they do step on someone else in pursuit of their own agenda, there is this thing called remorse that comes into play...

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  59. What socios dont get about people without apd is that yes, while everyone has levels of self interest which are important for survival, most people do not coldly or callusly infringe on other people for their own gain. When they do step on someone else in pursuit of their own agenda, there is this thing called remorse that comes into play...


    True

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  60. lol what a bunch of stupid twats your boyfriends were probably narcissists not sociopaths and you are just crazy bitchs with inferiority complexes and some whore traits get over it just wait for midnight dress up your skirts and sweaters and go for a walk in the park

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  61. "an example would be a 40 year old sociopath that tries to lure a 13 year old onto her web cam. the man would ask for her age, when she tells him she is 13. he replies back that he is 15. he then finds and image of an attractive young boy and uses it as his picture. then he will basically fabricate a whole new character to impress her and attain his goal."

    One word... POLITICIANS

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  62. That's hardly an ancient throwback to sociopathy

    I disagree.

    I am of the opinion that most myths, biblical stories, monsters and creatures were born from the need to anthropomorphize and allegorize various aspects of nature, humanity, and the shades of grey inherent in life. Vampires represent, and I believe always represented, the dark side of human nature, including sociopaths. I think in the past there's wasn't really much of a difference between reality and allegory; they were one and the same for the most part, which is something we have lost in modern times (hence, I think, why people take the bible too literally). Nowadays we have psychology instead, which is perhaps just a different form of the same thing. The same thing told in a new language.

    In fact, hard science can be seen as a form of allegory, but we believe in it as fact (as in the past vampires were once 'fact'), so in terms of science we really see no difference between what all the numbers represent and reality. The numbers are 'fact', right?

    Perhaps in the future, science as we see it now will be seen as a form of myth, the same way vampires are now, once another language to explain and describe the world is invented. But not right now, because science is for the most part, or at least becoming, the predominate 'language' or 'religion', if you will.

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  63. lol what a bunch of stupid twats your boyfriends were probably narcissists not sociopaths and you are just crazy bitchs with inferiority complexes and some whore traits get over it just wait for midnight dress up your skirts and sweaters and go for a walk in the park


    LOL

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  64. Most women enjoy being raped in a way.

    No.

    There is a difference between submission and surrender.

    Fucked up mental BPD women often get the two confused.

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  65. I have to agree with the anon who said Bateman is a narc. He's about as textbook as they come. Obsessing over his beauty regimin and business cards. All artifice. He is your basic narc who has a psychotic break and starts killing people. He becomes incresingly delusional as the film progresses.

    Not all killers are socios and not all socios are killers. And Bateman was just an allegory for the insanity of modern culture, anyway. He was more of a personification of Regan era greed taken to its darkest conclusion.

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  66. That;s interesting conjecture about vampires.

    Prove it.

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  67. That's dumb, TNP. That's like trying to 'prove' literature.

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  68. 'Fucked up mental BPD women often get the two confused'

    er, come again, meddi? Please, don't talk shit you know little about. I know the difference. Ugh. You're so annoying sometimes.

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  69. btw i haven't read the shit today so i don't know what you were talking about...But that just makes me automatically right. Of coursey! :)

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  70. Medusa, it is true tho, that vampires as we think of them didnt exist prior to gothic romances. Prior to that, they existed as reanimated corpses with blood lust. They were closer to zombies than to Dracula.

    Also, not all of us bpd gals dont know the difference between submission and surrender. I've known both in my time. I tend to only surrender under certain conditions. It is quite amazing to completely let go, but let's face it, most of these schmucks do not deserve nor can be trusted with surrender. Submission, yes, because there is not as much to lose. Submission still involves ego, it's just sublimated. Surrender is total ego loss and complete vulnerability. At least in my lexicon. Tell me how you see it?

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  71. No, it's not. If you're going to make claims that have no basis in reality (that you can muster up) it's like asking you to prove any other fact.

    It's not like I'm asking you to learn an ancient language and hop in a time traveling machine. Find me an ancient vampire story (BCE, preferably, you get bonus points if it's Sumerian) with a classical sociopathic vampire in it.

    If you can't, it remains conjecture at best.

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  72. notme chillax!

    BPD by definition means FUCKED UP AND MENTAL. You are being reactionary due to semantics.

    Should I walk on eggshells around you and say something like 'super sensitive women who have been unfairly victimized and have abandonment issues, poor things, they are angels' just to not hurt your feelings?

    It wasn't a judgement call, nor was it a personal attack.

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  73. oh sorry, are we talking about vampires?
    i didn't realise it was such a serious topic. My bad. *eye roll*

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  74. I just assumed Medusa was trying to get a reaction to the bpd comment, so I just ignored that part. It was the assertion that we dont know the diff that begged further explanation in my book.

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  75. If im not mistaken Medusa, you were implying that bpd women enjoy being raped. lols, maybe sometimes... ;) But anyway. I honestly don't care. Yes i'm nuts, i'm been called various things in that vein and i've grown quite accustomed to it.

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  76. Medusa, it is true tho, that vampires as we think of them didnt exist prior to gothic romances.

    Key phrase being "as we think of them". Which basically only means the word we currently use to describe the concept. And the cape and garlic and bats and that shit.

    The word 'vampire' (or wampyr, or whatever spelling or language you choose) didn't exist before the 18th century. But that doesn't mean the concept didn't exist before then.

    I'm checking wiki now which also makes the point I am making:

    The notion of vampirism has existed for millennia; cultures such as the Mesopotamians, Hebrews, Ancient Greeks, and Romans had tales of demons and spirits which are considered precursors to modern vampires. However, despite the occurrence of vampire-like creatures in these ancient civilizations, the folklore for the entity we know today as the vampire originates almost exclusively from early 18th-century southeastern Europe, when verbal traditions of many ethnic groups of the region were recorded and published. In most cases, vampires are revenants of evil beings, suicide victims, or witches, but they can also be created by a malevolent spirit possessing a corpse or by being bitten by a vampire. Belief in such legends became so pervasive that in some areas it caused mass hysteria and even public executions of people believed to be vampires.

    Just because it has a different name and form, doesn't mean the concepts differ very much.

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  77. Hey meddy, have we recently established that you are now, a schizoid? Interesting. One of my best friends (I love that girl) i would consider, a little on the schizoid side. ALthough being very pretty and highly intelligent, (first degree at uni, in a good profession now), she took years to be interested in a guy. Was single that whole time. ALthough she is now in a stable relationship, i still think she's kinda different like that. No what I mean? Maybe you are quite similar. Who knows. I love her cos she's so stable in my life, and tolerates my unpredictability, and i've never had a single argument with her throughout our seven year friendship. She's awesome, but very very different to me. Regardless of that, we get on so well.

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  78. If im not mistaken Medusa, you were implying that bpd women enjoy being raped.

    You made that assumption yourself.

    I wasn't talking specifically about rape, but how some people confuse submission and surrender and think that something rape-like is what they need. Let's say the 'rape' desire is on a spectrum. From normal D/s relationships, on to BDSM relationships, and rape at the very extreme.

    Also, let me clarify:

    I said "Fucked up mental BPD women" not "BPD women". By that I meant the BPDers who are extra fucked up. I was referring to the sorts Sarah was talking about earlier:

    No woman wants actual rape, no matter how much porn or your low empathy allows you to believe the contrary. The ones who do are far more damaged than even me.

    ^ Those girls in bold is what I meant.

    Sometimes I assume people know what I mean more than they actually do, and I tend to talk bluntly, so I will try to be clearer.

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  79. Yes it does. They differ quite a lot. I know, as a vampire whore my entire life, I did a number of research papers. The ancient vampires were basically bloodthirsty corpses. No cognition, no superficial charm, not a single human characteristic other than being a walking dead meat sack hungering for blood or flesh, depending on the culture. They were corpses that housed demons that were more or less retarded. They resembled obsessive compulsives in their single minded quest for sustenance more than the modern vampire which is more sociopathic. Hence the use of the term "precurser".

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  80. Vampire or demon-like creatures are certainly ancient. But classical charming sociopaths? None that I know of.

    Good luck.

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  81. TNP, are u gonna post stuff on your blog? and why's it all white? it should be dark and broody. ooooh yehhhhh.

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  82. notme, I don't know if I'm necessarily SPD, but yes I am very schizoid. Perhaps your friend and myself are alike indeed.

    Single most of my adult life and I laugh at people who think I should feel bad because of that, because I don't. I have never had much interest in dating or not being single.

    'True love' or whatever the fuck would be really nice and stuff, and I do long for it, sometimes immensely, but for me it's not worth the effort most people are willing to put into it. Dating and all that ritualistic bullshit. I can't bring myself to do it except rarely.

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  83. I do know the sorts Medusa was talking about... the way past repair bpd gals. I use to use fetlife before I divorced myself from that "lifestyle". There are gals literally begging to be kidnapped and held indefinitely to be raped by whoever their owner wants. Many involve interracial "breeding". White girls to be kept as breeding chattel for black men.

    I thank all of the immensely fucked up women of fetlife for getting me (mostly) out of that mindset. Sometimes it takes looking at others as grotesque distortions of ourselves to wake us up.

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  84. But classical charming sociopaths?

    That's just the Hollywood version.

    Even Bram Stoker's Dracula wasn't so charming, Hollywood and Bela Lugosi did that.

    Even the Bela Lugosi version wasn't so charming, unless you mean the original version of 'charm' which was basically like an actual spell you put on someone. Not a personality trait. But it was the first time they dressed up a vampire all nice, made him handsome, and combed his hair. It's Hollywood after all. Maybe that is what you are calling 'charm'.

    Same way they had to nice-up what a sociopath is in order to create Dexter. It's for the audience. Who wants to be charmed. It's kind of hard to do that with an ugly drooling monster looking thing.

    I mean, fuck, have you even watched Nosferatu? I'd hardly call that guy charming, and it predates the original Dracula movie. But it was a more historically accurate version.

    In conclusion, the whole 'charming vampire' thing is a Hollywood invention, and you are falling for it. Might as well have a 'code' like Dexter does to be a real sociopath, right?

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  85. Well Medusa, unless you feel your life sucks because of your schizoid traits (cant work, cant sleep, whatever) its not really a pd. Granted, you do mention a desire for closeness, but unless it causes you undue pain, its not really a disorder. The whole disorder thing is quite subjective anyway. Like its funny putting narcs and socios and even schizoids in with the others, because usually it isnt the individual suffering from their condition. It is usually their loved ones who suffer. The new DSM system is getting closer, but I still think they've got it all wrong. And apparently schizoids wont exist as a seperate pd. Maybe because schizoid is actually (except for the low empathy) closer to what a healthy functioning independently minded human is supposed to be. I think the narcissistic psychiatric community tends to have its head up its own ass.

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  86. That's where you are wrong, Medusa... the modern vampire is based on Lord Byron. Google Byron and Polidori and The Vampire. That is where our current concepts have derived. It was Polidori's butthurt way of trying to get a dig in on Byron, who was known as a major narcissist and (metaphorical) lady killer.

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  87. Oops it is "Vampyre" with a y

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  88. k TNP, just ignore me. I don't care. You're really rude you know.

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  89. My life does suck in some ways as a result, but in other ways, I just wouldn't have it any other way even for a billion dollars.

    No different than anyone else, I suppose. Even sociopaths.

    unless you feel your life sucks because of your schizoid traits (cant work, cant sleep, whatever) its not really a pd.

    If I'm not mistaken, this is partially why NPD and SPD won't be in the next DSM. Because those folks don't see much of a problem with who they are (until they have a break, but it's the break itself that is the issue for them (however related to the PD it is), but not the PD itself). The difference with ASPD, whilst they see no problem with who they are, is that it's inevitable that those affected make other people's lives suck (hence the name, it's a 'pathology' that directly negatively effects 'society').

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  90. @sarah

    the serial killer ted bundy also had an obsession with objects and status, which rivaled that of batemans. bundy was the guy that brought psychopaths to the mainstream. the poster boy of psychopathy, if you will. you could term him the real life patrick bateman. through the book (american psycho) and movie bateman makes references to bundy and other mass killers. i don't think an obsession with surfaces is exclusive to narcissists.

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  91. Sarah, I'm talking about how 99% of people view vampires nowadays. It's directly from Bela Lugosi. Everyone has seen Dracula, and that's what everyone's idea is based on.

    Lord Byron, perhaps, is inbetween the old Transylvania superstitions and the modern Dracula. The evolution of a mythical image doesn't happen overnight.

    It's like a crockpot. Byron, perhaps, was one of the spices that made the ugly brown stew taste better. Too bad the spice was MSG. Tastes good, but poison.

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  92. i think npd and schizoid go hand in hand. schizoids have lots of entitlement.

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  93. How does it feel to be schizoid? I have get behind the eyes of things before I can understand them, in any real way.

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  94. Interesting article on Steve Jobs.

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  95. Caroline, I'd start with reading the entire SPD article on wikipedia. Lots of good information there.

    I'm sure over time I could give you a more personal take on it, but to just sit here an explain my entire existence and perspective in one go would take way too long to articulate at the moment.

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  96. Haha, you gave up. You just can't admit you're wrong. Stubborn bitch.

    Did you say hello to me, notme? I missed it if you did.

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  97. Lord Byron sounds to me as more borderline-ish./bipolar. He was an asshole, but not near npd severe asshole.

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  98. I didn't give up... I guess you just don't get it, or your pride doesn't like to be educamated.

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  99. @Medusa LOL You have a point

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  100. The narcissist doesn't believe in equality, or at least not when it affects him. Equality would seem demeaning to the narcissist if it applied to him.

    If (as often happens in private) he shouts and swears or intimidates his immediate family, or if his face turns beetroot - walk away 20 feet! Twenty feet is the range of his narcissistic rage. But later he might try to sneak up on you.

    He's an expert at detraction and calumny. He can gossip with an innocent composure. He can assassinate a person's reputation and yet make the assassination seem like decent conversation.

    He will often project, criticising you for the very things that he himself is guilty of. He might gallingly tell you that you have no sympathy, or that you are a control freak, or that you were trying to be the centre of attention when the visitors were in. He might even tell you that you are behaving hysterically when you are not even angry. Listen carefully to what he accuses you of because it might well tell you what he is doing, thinking or planning.

    He craves your sympathy, its a kind of attention. He's sure to tell you how unfortunate he is and how bad the people in his life are. He's sure to paint a dark picture of others. He'll probably paint a bad picture of you (unless he's dependent on you in some way).

    Visitors are as bemused when they see the children being exceptionally noisy despite them seemingly having two quiet, calm parents. Don't be fooled. Children pick up many of their traits from watching their parents. If parents are calm when visitors are in, just don't assume that they are calm when there are no visitors. Perhaps if you try to be a fly-on-the-wall the narcissist might momentarily forget that you are there and you will catch him off-guard, and then you will see how the narcissist relates to his children in private.

    People who live with a narcissist get fed up listening to the narcissist endlessly criticising his friends. These are often friends who appear to adore the narcissist. Those friends have no idea what he says about them. The narcissist's friends, however, will often happily listen to the narcissist defaming the characters of others, so in some respects they deserve the criticisms which the narcissist gives them behind their backs.

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  101. TNP, honestly now, stop acting like you're retarded. You know I made a comment to you. For fucks sake.

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  102. The narcissist seems to criticise others endlessly, whether in public or in private. In public, however, the narcissist can make his/her criticisms look like genuine concern. The narcissist's criticisms often involve exaggerating the person's faults, sometimes to the point of lying. People who do not know the narcissist well are likely to develop negative emotions towards the people whom the narcissist strongly criticises. People within the family are more likely to wise-up to the narcissist's exaggerations and half-truths. People within the family often have to listen to the narcissist criticising colleagues and relatives but are unable to let those colleagues and relatives know the extent to which the narcissist is trying to denigrate them.

    On the other hand the narcissist cannot bear to be criticised by others and is hypersensitive to criticism. If people outside the family criticise the narcissist the narcissist is likely to take revenge by speaking ill of the person later. With immediate family the narcissist is more likely to respond to criticism by overtly aggressive behaviour.

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  103. Narcissists are not usually regarded as being physically violent but there appears to be a significant minority of narcissists who are. For this reason a person who might be vulnerable to violence from a narcissist might be advised to spot the danger signs. A typical example of a vulnerable person might be a woman who is married to a narcissistic man. Danger signs that might be a forewarning of physical violence could be the following:

    * Possessive or controlling behaviour
    * Verbal abuse
    * Constant criticism
    * Undue control of family finances
    * Isolation from family and friends

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  104. * How many narcissists does it take to change a light bulb?

    None, a narcissist will always manage to find someone else to carry out a menial chore like that.

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  105. * What's a sure-fire way of getting daily verbal abuse?

    Be the child of a narcissist.

    * What is a narcissist's idea of being abused?

    Occasionally having to go along with someone else's preferences.

    * What do you call a narcissist who is never vengeful?

    Utterly impossible!

    * What's a narcissist's idea of hard work?

    Arranging for lots of people to do all the chores (organising people can be hard work, can't it?).

    * What's a narcissist's idea of generosity?

    Giving away things which the narcissist considers to be rubbish.

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  106. empathic people are hilarious when you are a sociopath.

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  107. SW has really help me to deal with Narcs in my family. I have learned several very helpful things from being here. One is that the Narc person, really, cannot help it. Narc is his framework for processing info. It is his world view. It will not change, so why stress over it?

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  108. narcs? don't you mean narc, as in one? most families have one narc and a bunch of minions that act like the narc and attack anyone that disagrees with the narcissist, but the minions are not as skilled as the narc. they create a cult. it's like a soft kid starts liking football to impress his dad, but his dad sees him as even weaker now, because he is trying so hard to be accepted by the narc dad.

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  109. TNP and Sarah are right, Medusa. Vampires were just corpses before Lord Byron (it was his assistant that wrote 'The Vampyre', but he based it on Byron). Like the Arabian Ghouls, the Chinese Jiangshi, the Malaysian Mananangaal and the Japanese Jikininki; all just corpses. The 'Byron vampire' was the one that popularized the aristocratic vampire. And Dracula may not have been charming, he could hypnotize people. And that's like, a billion times more effective.

    And while you're technically right in saying MSG is poisonous (because literally everything is), salt (the regular NaCl kind) is five times more poisonous. MSG is actually the fifth taste (alongside sweet, bitter, sour and salt); umami.

    Next you'll be telling me that vaccines cause autism...

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  110. LOLWAT

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/phliby/2683742736/

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  111. I didn't do it.




    wv : harvard

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  112. Just a flesh wound~

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  113. About the whole bpd/rape thing: I don't think it counts as rape if you want to be raped. So it's by definition impossible to want to be raped, right?

    Good to see you're back, MMP. I missed you. :(

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  114. I believe the rape commenter was trying to upset people. It's amusing how oversensitive people are.

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  115. I don't think anyone could have missed that 'Crass' was just trying to be... well... crass. Duh.

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  116. I'm voting for Perry.

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  117. does anyone else think that blaming shortcomings, faults, mistakes and bad behavior on a personality disorder, is in itself psychopathic?

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  118. That's why rape is a fraud. There is no rape. People have been raping since the dawn of Man. There are many women who orgasm during rape. Your 'conclusions' are stupid. Google it. Sarah you HAVE contradicted yourself. YOU JUST ADMITTED IT! You, notme, and haven all want to be raped.

    Btw, people suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder are just women who are in touch with their feminine side to an extreme. Hence the reason they are openly admitting to wanting to be raped. Medusa wants to be raped too, she is just in the closet.

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  121. Crass is so crass that he has to name himself crass, because he believes people are SO utterly dumb, that they will fail to realize that he is crass.

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  122. David you are so pathetic. I knew you would be back yet again. What exchange is this that you put up? Is this another old geezer that's been stuffing his cock in your mouth and sexually abusing you. You disgusting whore. You keep coming back because we are the only ones who will anchor you to the reality that you are nothing but a cheap aging fuck toy for old perverts to use.

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  123. No. Psychopaths only blame if they feel like admitting they did something "wrong" to begin with. Even then, they tend more toward blaming other people. Like "it was his fault he died. Anyone could tell I was having a bad day. He shouldnt have fucked with me." Or "Ive never seen a bigger idiot. That stupid bitch ran into my knife thirty times".

    I myself do not use my pd as a crutch for bad behavior. I have seen people use it that way. Not just pds either. Bipolar, depression, anxiety, addiction... anything can be a crutch or excuse. However, understanding where impulses come from and why one does what they do is self awareness and is an important step. Using knowledge of dysfunction as a crutch to allow bad behvior to continue without desire to change... that's not psychopathic as much as it is just laziness.

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  124. Welcome back, David.

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  125. Oh please. That's not the real David. Even he would have more dignity than that.

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  126. Yes! ^^ that is psychopathic blaming right there.

    Thats the stupid shit that the dumber ones think sounds reasonable.

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  128. Nah. It doesn't make him stupid. He knew he was going away for a long time. He tried to do as much damage as possible.

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  129. Even he would have more dignity than that.

    What do you base that conjecture on?

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  130. Anyone with a voice like that deserves a nice rape. Uptight bitch.

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  131. He says that he has been trying to get people including his defense team to understand that he was the victim all along. Not as stupid as the twinkie defense, but it is up there.

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  133. "What do you base that conjecture on?"

    I'm having a hard time telling wether you're serious or not...

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  134. Yes Tik that first anon 511 is a moron. Its also just trying for a reaction, which is why we've been ignoring it.

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  135. Elliot slashed and stabbed her 82 times, then shot her four times in the head. At trial, his lawyers argued that he did not intend to kill her.

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  136. Me too wheatley. You say he has more dignity than that, yet he left and came back in four days already. So I ask you what are you basing that conjecture on?

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  137. Ukan Get a fucking life.

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  138. I liked the story about the guy who killed his wife and then whined about how no one understood that he was the real victim because she was dead and she was his world.

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  139. Let Me In was beautiful. It actually brought me to tears.

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  140. A woman who was buried alive in a cardboard box has told a British court how she used her diamond engagement ring to cut her hands and legs free, and then slash her way out of the box.

    Prosecutors say Kasprzak had grown bored with Lewendowska and wanted her out of the way so he could start a new romance with another woman.

    His defense attorney argues Kasprzak was only trying to scare his fiance.

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  141. Are all sociopaths that big of trolls?

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  142. I hope you enjoyed the Filliers jenever

    We did! There were two fancy sorts (#5 & #8) and 3 fruit flavored ones (lemon, currant and passion fruit).

    Very nice aftertastes.

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  143. why does sociapaths smell so bad?

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  144. Tonight we lit the 7th candle and listened to Kol Nidre as sung by Johnny Mathis, Perry Como, and Neil Diamond.

    Baroch atoi adonai = I broke my toy and I'm annoyed (according to my mom)

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  145. Look at yourself, you depressed fucks. You've been miserable since you're a teenager and you honestly think something magic is gonna change everything? Kill yourself to make an end to your misery.

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  146. That Anon was UKan lol

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  147. Did you guys hear about the kid who killed himself because some random anon on a comments page made him feel bad about himself?

    Yeah, me neither.

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  148. Idk why does sociopaths smell so bad...

    (Hope English is your second language)

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  150. Anon is right, we're being called evil when depressed people are the ones sleeping all day, crying about how their lives suck. At least, we're productive.

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  151. Guess that depends on ones definition of productive... I would say "keeping busy" is more apt.

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  152. socios smell bad because thet love the stench of their own BO and expect others to deal. They don't go out of their way to make themselves purty smellin fer no one, specially someone who likes em.

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  153. you wanna manipulate some narcissistic girl or fella, jest talk to their less hansum, less brilliant friends. They'll a come a runin to ya.

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  154. Using knowledge of dysfunction as a crutch to allow bad behvior to continue without desire to change... that's not psychopathic as much as it is just laziness.

    I got a friend with chronic fatigue syndrome.. These people really get a bad rap for being manipulative, lazy whiners...

    Not sure what to think of my friend. She won't do western medicine, and she's been to healers. She just wants to get away with succumbing? She doesn't keep appointments or create responsibility in her life that would force her to show up. Half the time I want to shake her because I think she's faking.

    Then I remember my depression and I say who am I to judge her when I use the excuse all the time. When I just don't feel like doing shit or I don't feel like being dissociative when someone has pissed me off for really no reason at all what am I going to say?

    ^I am asking this question seriously, for the people with bpd.

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  155. I told you wheat. There is no level of patheticness that david will not sink to. Next time you place your bets throw it on the number corresponding with that logic.

    And no David that anon was not me.

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  157. Using knowledge of dysfunction as a crutch to allow bad behvior to continue without desire to change... that's not psychopathic as much as it is just laziness.

    I believe this, but I would take it a step further. There is no dysfunction unless you believe it is one. People should strive to understand how they function not dwell on how they disfunction.

    It's easy to find disabilities. It's easy to find excuses. It's easy to whine and cry about the situations you are in right now, and blame external things or individuals for your current predicament.

    If you want to see an example take a look at Lovefraud.com . Here's a site where hundreds of 'victims' gather around and relive the same tragic moments in their lives over and over again. They spend their days and nights firing darts at the dart board with a picture of their ex boyfriend's face pasted on it. Does that really help? I don't believe it does at all.

    I think instead people should take a honest look at themselves and examine what strengths they have not what disorders they have.

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  158. u like it here

    Of course he does. Everyone who's come here loves this place. They come for the entertainment and stay for the abuse.

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  159. Rudolph's red nose started out as a weakness, but was turned into a strength.

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  160. I think instead people should take a honest look at themselves and examine what strengths they have not what disorders they have.

    Thank you

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  161. I was just thinking about Rudolph. Also the ugly duckling made me think of him.

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  162. The ugly duckling had nothing on Rude

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  164. What would you know about strength, David? Your entire life has been complacency.

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  165. u always change ur places but u never change ur faces :-)

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  166. Heh, you always choose such ridiculously cute pictures, UKan.

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  168. You can change anything if you want to bad enough. That's why we get away with so many lies. We want the lie more than you want the truth.

    People keep talking about gas lighting. That is all there really is to it. It's not so much the act of hiding things, changing things or denying their existance. It's the will you must have to believe your own bollocks enough that the other person knows you believe it not only whole heartedly, but passionately. There is nothing more powerful than self doubt when it comes to manipulation like this. When someone already doubts themselves it's pretty easy to get them to trust you over themself.

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  169. Why, thank you Medusa. Merry Xmas

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  170. Ukan, It is certainly true that dwelling on negatives just keeps one mired in negativity. All these "disorders" are is a collection of patterns and coping mechanisms. I am not borderline. I have this bpd label but it isnt who I am as an individual. It doesnt define me. It is a part of me.

    It is interesting talking with others who have it, seeing where we overlap and where we differ. Each person is unique, be they aspie, apd, bpd or schizophrenic or even the NTs (I still am not sure I believe there is such thing as an NT - most folks seem like they have some sort of dysfunction - I sometimes think it is most dysfunctional to be "well adjusted" because adjusting to this world seems like a terrible idea). The labels are good for pattern recognition. When someone else has the same label you can actually discuss what works and provide support. Obviously the npd & apd support groups are more like cock measuring contests, but the rest of us can glean hope from others who maybe dealing better or even manage to see the positives.

    A positive of bpd for me is that I am a talented actress. I have no stage freight. I can easily call upon the range of human emotions and it is believable. I also had so much casual sex and was a stripper when I was a wee lass, so I got over my body image issues many moons ago and dont buy into corporate concepts of beauty and dont spend all my money buying the crap that npd gals buy lol. I can also take my rage out on the elliptical and the swimming pool.

    As far as fibromyalgia, yoga and tai chi are supposed to be good therapy. Any movement, really. I think it is a clinical name for "gtf off the couch syndrome". Ive never known anyone who had good regular aerobic sex fall victim to it.

    And anon, why do you want to ask bpd folks about fibromyalgia?

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  171. "There is nothing more powerful than self doubt when it comes to manipulation like this. When someone already doubts themselves it's pretty easy to get them to trust you over themself."

    thank you. that's just what I needed.

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  172. It's the will you must have to believe your own bollocks enough that the other person knows you believe it not only whole heartedly, but passionately

    this is a trap for you though, unless you know your bollocks is bollocks!

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  173. Yes, good point Ukan. I am thankful for my socio friend because he has made me a lot more aware of my own strengths and weaknesses. In some ways, I agree with Monica that having your very own socio can be good therapy. You just cant listen to their words. You learn about your chinks in your own armor by where they hurt you. I really do feel like learning from his callousness has also helped me learn not to take things so personally. A low level socio can be a great teacher for a beeper. It almost feels more symbiotic than parasitic. He learns how to mimic deeper emotions better and I learn how to make mine more shallow. I learn how to let go of attachment more and he gets a friend who knows he is a db and still sticks around. And we both get amazing sex. Problem for him is at this point he needs me more than I need him and soon I wont need him at all. Oh well, us bitches are interchangeable to you guys anyway, so its not like its a real problem. Plenty of gals out there who will be more gullible and less work. But less fun. I know he will miss that. I will too. Say what you want about beepers and socios, but there's never a dull moment. We bring the fun in.

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  175. ew, i don't know if i can be with beepers. messy cunts they are.

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  176. notme... I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. Stop jumping to the worst possible conclusions.

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  177. Anonymous said...
    That's why rape is a fraud. There is no rape. People have been raping since the dawn of Man. There are many women who orgasm during rape.


    this is so stupid it's priceless.

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  178. "this is a trap for you though, unless you know your bollocks is bollocks!"


    I'm in a trap. I believed my own bullocks. lol. I have to believe I'll find my way out of it too, and not have to erase my footprints. I'm a stubborn bitch, but I can still learn. I know when I've fucked up enough to fuck myself. I fucked myself by coming here the way I did. But it's no catch 22. There's always a way out of a trap. I have to believe that. It may take some time to undo what I've done... but that's where the fun comes in. "No one put's Baby in the corner," lol, right?
    Fuck it. I'm going to do what I came here to do! Hope every one enjoyed their religious holiday. See you all sometime in the new year to come...

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  179. L O L!

    I'm a stubborn bitch but i can still learn ...

    lol!

    no one puts my bubbies in a corner. They're HOOGE

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  180. why does they tease you for just bein you?

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  181. If you folk have not been keeping up, and I'm sure not many have, I have been mentoring properly on how to do knife "jobs" and fire "Jobs". I have two mentors, technically, and they both have two that serve them who are also aiding me in this. There are many to learn from, but already I feel this isn't worth shit.

    The world I have entered and been a part of before was an underworld of BDSM. I have been in training to become a dominatrix, and wanted to turn this into a source of income. I figured beating the shit out of people fucked up enough to pay me for it would sate me completely, but it is only doing the opposite. My sadism has become worse, and I find myself easily losing control and becoming a slave to my own inclinations to mangle, torture, and even destroy. I need something to calm this hunger to bring pain, and I haven't found an outlet yet.

    So I want to ask those who have an insatiable taste for sadism, how can I calm this. I have a feeling there isn't much of a way other than to bring this aggressive sadistic energy elsewhere, but where? In every sport and hobby I have become part of the urge to bring it past the part of "play" is too strong. When I spoke of fucking up in the past it was because I brought it past "play". Medusa, it was more of a "job", only I wasn't hired by anyone.

    I'm positive as with most of my issues, I will come to a solution that will keep me balanced for the most part, but as of now my mind isn't in the correct state to even think proactively. I am meeting with my mentors this coming Wednesday to lay it all out on the table. UKan, Misanthrope, or even Postmodern, possibly Daniel, any suggestions would be grand.

    Thank you for your time. Piles signing out, will check tomorrow.

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  182. The best outlet for sadism is tormenting people who don't deserve it.

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  183. I don't think you want to mix your personal appetite with your work. -A person who comes to you for a beating already thinks they deserve it. You are fulfilling their need, and you're the whore. You need a private arrangement.

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  184. "Next time you place your bets throw it on a number corresponding with that logic."

    I was somewhat more hopeful he'd really leave this time, but I'm not really surprised he came back. I was trying to get him to say it was really him, which would also mean he would admit to being pathetic. Usually he's obsessed with proving he's 'real' but maybe he saw through my clever, clever ruse.

    wv: nofflatr

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  185. I like to use the sole of my foot to pet my cat. Her fur is cool and soft.

    But I don't step on her.

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  186. Fictional SW CharacterDecember 27, 2011 at 1:03 AM

    I believe Homer Simpson has attention deficit disorder

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  187. I met this woman who said she has add she couldn't and wouldn't stop talking had a new topic to discuss every 2 min then proceeded talking about her needing stimulation and that was why she flits around from activity to activity and that is why she wouldn't shut up then she talked about god n shit and I tuned out then she said did I know there are 18 types of add she fascinated me but her monologue made me tired Is she an emotional vampire cause she was sucking the air out of the room and she FORCED me to listen to her with her cherubic smile?

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