Tuesday, November 25, 2014

Worse than a psychopath?

From a reader:

I thought you'd appreciate this video.


The gist of it is that psychopaths are capable of more contribution to society because our self-centeredness is so efficient that "just for the sheer fucking hell of it, make other people's lives better."

42 comments:

  1. Actually, I am diagnosed as an aspie, though my family would all tell you I'm a psychopath. My husbands swears I'm an empathy, just not a very good one. I find if I think about it, if I actually WANT to, I can sort of understand what other people might think or feel about something if I relate it to what I think/feel about a situation. To me, the guy in the video not only makes perfect sense, but he's simply echoing exactly how I feel about many things.

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    1. When were you diagnosed with Asperger's, and, if you can share this, under what circumstances? Did you receive a second opinion, or was that the only time? How much did you tell the psychiatrist/psychologist about your inner thoughts and experiences at the time of the diagnosis? Also, and if I'm not asking too many questions, do you really think that this diagnosis fits your current state of mind, or have you ever questioned this diagnosis based on other things that you might have observed or thought about yourself?

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    2. Aspie or Asperger sounds stupid, would be a true shame for me to be called that.

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  2. Anon,

    Read my comments in the previous post, "Vive la difference." They can be found as Anonymous at 1:04, 1:22 and 1:50 (for Dr. Ginger). They might help you.

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    1. why do you think anyone wants your help?

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    2. Anon,

      It is not about people wanting my help. Unfortunately, some people don't realize that they need help until they read someone else's perspective and/or thoughts on a given state of mind or situation that can possibly pull them out of that dark, negative inner space - both mind and soul. That realization in them has been my goal.

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    3. so you know what is better for them than they know themselves.. good for you. "you should...", "you should not" ladedadeda

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    4. Anon,

      That is my point. They don't know until they are made aware of some things, and in that process of gaining awareness, arriving to a realization. It is not arrogance, as in my knowing better than someone else, and none of this is meant to sound argumentative. It is being helpful with a positive goal in mind.

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  3. He is entertaining, I will give him that. For a while, I thought he was holding the mouthpiece to a hookah, then I realized it was his mic.

    I'm not sure I buy his argument - it seems like he's really talking about The Law of Unintended Consequences, which can be wielded with horrific results by people of all empathic stripes. I think reducing human behavior to models as simple as the one he is positing can lead to all sorts of...interesting scenarios.

    I do, however, agree with the idea that "caring is as caring does." We would all do well to keep that in mind.

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    1. Lol I thought it was a vaporizer :P

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  4. This is for Former Plaything (I don't know if you saw this in the other post),

    "I wear 2 masks..one is made of steel, armour that shields me from everyone, emotionless and remorseless.
    The other mask is made of silk, the mask of a seductress who manipulates others by feigning affection and thriving in self-pity."

    So one mask is cold and emotionless, while the other is the mask of a seductress who feigns affection. Do you also become promiscuous or feel the drive to become promiscuous when being the seductress/feigning affection, since, from a psychological viewpoint, that usually has roots in something you might not be aware of (unresolved issues from the past having to do with sexual and physical abuse, or certain situations that have impacted you in very negative ways).

    What do you mean by this (can you expand on it), and what is behind the mask that you wear when feigning affection? When you say masks, do you mean personalities, as in alters (as in a sexual alter from a psychological viewpoint, because something like this can be difficult to control, as in watching out for yourself when being unaware)? I don't mean to insult you in any way, so don't take it that way. I am only trying to understand, and maybe help you in some area that you haven't thought of before.

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  5. Byron's "Lara" speaks to this quality (posted elsewhere on MEs blog) and it can be the hardest for people around me to understand. It is possible, maybe even likely, that our pursuits will give us cause to do both great and evil things from time to time not out of the kind of conviction that arises from emotional entanglement but rather in a casual manner that shocks, awes, horrifies, and confuses bystanders as much as the act itself.

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  6. Did anyone see The Purge and think that would help reduce violence?

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    1. I did, and I don't. Most violence is a reflexive response to anger, stress, and impulsivity or a response to opportunity for personal gain. A scheduled night of outlet for violent impulses wouldn't impact these.

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  7. Fucking awesome!

    Never saw the movie - I've lived a sad little existence beneath a box... *smirk*

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  8. I did and totally thought it would!
    I mean, it's kinda hilarious to force people into systems they don't (always) fit, causing them stress and frustration and then tell them "You gotta live with it and never ever do something against your frustrations!", of course there will be a lot of people who simply can't stand this and either act out or get ill, physically or mentally or both.

    But if you tell them "You gotta behave all year long and if you were nice and obedient you have this special night in which you are allowed to kill, rape, torture or whatever your heart wishes for" then I'd suppose there would be kind of an effect like with Christmas and lil' children.

    Or at least that's the "brave new world" I could envision to possibly work xD

    Though, I don't know how it'd turn out in real life, since there's evidence the death penalty actually enhances criminal behavior, if I'm not mistaken - and if that's true I don't realistically see this as a helpful strategy to lower violence and aggression. Would still be fun though.

    Dr. Ginger, did you see Purge:Anarchy as well?

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    1. "I did and totally thought it would!" Me too! :) I've been surprised though because everyone I have asked so far said they would never support something like that even if it reduced violence, and promised an almost completely safe atmosphere except for 1 night out of the year.

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    2. I'm not surprised, as the film is supposed to show emotionally charged how bad the idea is. If the filmmaker would have presented their idea more neutral, or (which would be more effectively) in a differently biased perspective idealizing the hypothesis most of the audience would have agreed on the propagated mindset - just as they do now but in opposite direction :)

      Though there likely would be a heavily negative response by the general public as to punish the "wrong" idea which contradicts the prevailing collective opinion on morals shortly afterwards, followed by an equally or more charged riot of all us antisocials and individualists, teens and wayward thinkers and all other non-conformists stating the pros and ignoring the cons which would yet again trigger a massive media war. Or at least this is what I've came to observe mostly when such a thing happens xD

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    3. As I recall, there are some "festivals" in Europe (the tomato fight comes to mind just now, but there are others that are much more violent) that can get pretty brutal. I think I remember reading the argument that these sorts of annual events help to discharge collective violence that builds up.

      The same argument is used for professional sports like football - it's a way of vicariously releasing the aggression.

      I'll see if I can't dig up more specifics...but first, coffee...

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  9. That guy is a sexy-ass sumbitch! Who's with me?

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  10. LOL. I was laughing so hard at this. Great post! I agree with him and try to tell people with less "fuckings", but they don't listen.

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  11. There is nothing more satisfying than hurting people under the guise of helping people. Remember this next time you see a philanthropist. :)

    ~ Sadist

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  15. I am very sympathetic to your viewpoint. It is very deep and meaningful.

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  16. When were you diagnosed with Asperger's, and, if you can share this, under what circumstances? Did you receive a second opinion, or was that the only time? How much did you tell the psychiatrist/psychologist about your inner thoughts and experiences at the time of the diagnosis? I find if I think about it, if I actually WANT to, I can sort of understand what other people might think or feel about something if I relate it to what I think/feel about a situation. It is not about people wanting my help. Unfortunately, some people don't realize that they need help until they read someone else's perspective and/or thoughts on a given state of mind or situation that can possibly pull them out of that dark, negative inner space - both mind and soul. That realization in them has been my goal.

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  18. Did you receive a second opinion, or was that the only time? How much did you tell the psychiatrist/psychologist about your inner thoughts and experiences at the time of the diagnosis?

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  19. There is nothing more satisfying than hurting people under the guise of helping people. Remember this next time you see a philanthropist.

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  20. There is nothing more satisfying than hurting people under the guise of helping people. Remember this next time you see a philanthropist. :)

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  21. Actually, I am diagnosed as an aspie, though my family would all tell you I'm a psychopath. My husbands swears I'm an empathy, just not a very good one. I find if I think about it, if I actually WANT to, I can sort of understand what other people might think or feel about something if I relate it to what I think/feel about a situation.

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