Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Almost a psychopath

From illustrious reader Daniel Birdick, regarding the book Almost a Psychopath: Do I (or does someone you know) have a problem with manipulation or lack of empathy?, in which people are apparently psychopathic without necessarily rising to the level of diagnosis:

I skimmed through the the Almost a Psychopath book. They adhere to the Hare definition of psychopathy and then label the "almost psychopath" as someone who behaves like a diagnosed psychopath, only less so. Very scientifically precise, no?~
This spectrum issue reminds me of the 2nd James Fallon video from one of your recent posts. Here this guy is, with the DNA and the brain of a serial killer, yet instead of becoming a murderer he instead becomes a neuroscientist. He is clueless about the impact of his own behavior on others up until the point when he sees the results of the brain scans, although his family is completely unsurprised by his discoveries. So, by virtue of his utter lack of caring and his genetic and neurological makeup, can we call him an almost psychopath? Or does the absence of antisocial or criminal behavior (relative to diagnosed psychopaths) indicate that he is not at psychopath at all, in any way that matters? Some, like good old Dr. Robert, base their notions of psychopathy entirely on what does or does not happen on the inside. The Hare checklist on the other hand is behaviorally based, with a few exceptions. I think the checklist assumes, to paraphrase the ultimate paragon of passivity, that you shall know a tree by its fruits. What you experience on the inside only matters when it expresses itself on the outside. I am inclined to agree. What you do matters more than what you don't feel. So what if you feel callous and unemotional on the inside. What matters is how you actually treat people. Right? Why then all the blather about empathy and emotional responses to social faux pas, like guilt and shame? Is it the whole authenticity thing? I find that to be another red herring. What self are we being authentic about? Where is this ghost in the machine and why won't it show up on a PET scan? Is it really "virtuous", whatever the hell that means, to be honest and admit that you don't give a flying fuck about whatever sob story some clueless twat wants to lay on you, or is it in fact more moral to pretend to care by aping the right facial expressions and body language?
Went on a bit of a rant there. Anyway...

226 comments:

  1. I find this conversation both intellectually stimulating and banal. Things are or they are not. Applying morality to anything is upsetting and unnecessary. Who cares if someone is moral? They made their choice how to move forward.

    When a move is made a counter move is produced. Morality is just on the periphery of my perception, something I remember but know is useless. If I choose to kill, either I go to jail or I've covered all of my bases and I don't even get arrested. Only the weak or slain worry about what society approves of. I am society.

    I only have use for notions I can swing into the skulls of those in front of me. Like power and intellect.

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    1. How you manage to find something stimulating and banal simultaneously is beyond me.

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    2. I guess some people like banal.

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  2. I vote honesty is more morally appropriate than feigning sympathy to encourage bad behavior or negatively reinforcing destructive behavior.

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    1. That's only relevant for your psychopath of a husband. For normal people though, honesty is only appropriate if it lines up with your agenda or you're too tired to feign what you should. Something that happens to me a lot. I find it easier to just avoid people who would want those kind of things from me than to actually give it to them. Empaths are so needy and they don't even know it.

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    2. Yeah, well, "normal" people are pretty fucked up.

      I find it easier to just avoid people who would want those kind of things from me

      Because you're a coward.

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    3. Some sociopaths are perfectly content to just sit in their room and avoid responsibility.

      I always thing I'm less than what I can be. And it's all about opportunity. I'm leaving soon off to the war. So for now I'm biding my time and leveling up. That's sound reasoning, isn't it?

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    4. Some sociopaths are perfectly content to just sit in their room and avoid responsibility.

      Not sure how this fact makes you a sociopath, instead of just a coward.

      I always thing I'm less than what I can be.

      Everyone does. Otherwise, why would time exist? People gotta have something to do.

      I'm leaving soon off to the war. So for now I'm biding my time and leveling up. That's sound reasoning, isn't it?

      Sounds more like Call of Duty reasoning to me.

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    5. Well I am a child of the Internet age so... :-P

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    6. Yeah, well, there's more than one way to use the internet. You know this, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

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    7. I'm well aware. I've always used my resources very effectively when I correctly identify my needs. So don't tell me.

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    8. ...and that's why you're living with your parents, afraid to leave the house. Because you've always used your resources effectively, and always correctly identified your needs.

      You must be a very very happy and at peace person, then. Happier than everyone else in the world.

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    9. I don't recall saying I've always correctly identified my needs. Nor do I remember I'm afraid of anything.

      I am in fact very, very happy and at peace. Happier than everyone else in the world? Not necessarily. But I do belong to a class of people who are happier on a more consisten basis. I'm not saying this makes me better than most people. I'm not saying it but you're thinking it.

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    10. I am in fact very, very happy and at peace.

      Okay, then perhaps you should tell me why are you here, without contradicting your previous statements.

      But I do belong to a class of people who are happier on a more consisten basis.

      "class" of people?

      What the hell does that mean?

      I'm not saying this makes me better than most people.

      Could have fooled me.

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    11. [i]Okay, then perhaps you should tell me why are you here, without contradicting your previous statements.[/i]

      I'm here because I'm a sociopath. I'm here because the things discussed here give me satisfaction. I'm here because the minds here cannot be found anywhere else.

      [i]"class" of people?

      What the hell does that mean?[/i]

      I say class of people because you brought up the whole world and everyone in it. I'm not stupid. I know there are other peoples with my mindset and level of happiness.

      [i]Could have fooled me.[/i]

      I'm not saying it but I'm clearly thinking it.

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    12. You are answering questions like a politician.

      I'm here because I'm a sociopath.

      Even if this were true, it's still not a good enough reason. I think here's a term for this sort of logical fallacy, which I can't think of right now. But lets just say if there was a dude named Möbius Descartes, it would probably be you.

      I'm here because the things discussed here give me satisfaction.

      And why? It satisfies what? The verb "to satisfy" requires an object, implied or explicit.

      I'm here because the minds here cannot be found anywhere else.

      And what proof do you have of this. You just said you prefer to avoid people, so how would you know?

      P.S. Use "<" not "["

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    13. I say class of people because you brought up the whole world and everyone in it.

      This sentence says nothing.

      Again, what do you mean by "class"?

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    14. I'm not saying this makes me better than most people. I'm not saying it but you're thinking it.

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      I'm not saying it but I'm clearly thinking it.

      Don't play chess with me, boy. Bad idea.

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    15. Even if this were true, it's still not a good enough reason. I think here's a term for this sort of logical fallacy, which I can't think of right now. But lets just say if there was a dude named Möbius Descartes, it would probably be you.

      If my reasons don't satisfy you then that's your cross to bear. The most satisfying justifications for myself, for why I'm her is this: I'm here because I want to be and I'm not not here because I don't want to be. That's all there is to it.

      And why? It satisfies what? The verb "to satisfy" requires an object, implied or explicit.

      It's okay that you want to know this. Everyone and everything here is an object. Reality is an object. So 'to satisfy' makes sense in my reality. I can satisfy myself if I do something with less conscious effort than the pleasure it affords me.

      And what proof do you have of this. You just said you prefer to avoid people, so how would you know?

      I don't need proof. You need proof. I don't avoid people. I fail to seek them out. I have been passively looking though. Today, at this pinpoint in time, my knowledge of the world and the architecture of the internet tells me that this is the place I want to be.

      Thanks for the tip, Mɵᴅʊsa.

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    16. "Then my words will come and trap you in your own words and I will devour your words with it." — Zwang

      Didn't work for her, it's not gonna work for you.

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    17. I say class of people because you brought up the whole world and everyone in it.

      This sentence says nothing.

      Again, what do you mean by "class"?


      Figure it out. If my answered don't inform you, infer by what I've already said.

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    18. I'm not saying this makes me better than most people. I'm not saying it but you're thinking it.

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      I'm not saying it but I'm clearly thinking it.

      Don't play chess with me, boy. Bad idea.


      Hey, bitch, you're the one who jumped onto my chessboard. Don't be upset with me because you're a slow thinker. If it makes you feel better, if chess is what I'm playing I wasn't aware until you said something.

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    19. AAAAAAnd.... ad hominum straw man nonsense.

      Game over.

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    20. Arguing with a sociopath is like playing chess with a pigeon. You think you have me in checkmate but I'm just gonna kick over the pieces, shit on the board, and fly away.

      If I'm being honest I don't really get your metaphor anyway because you don't have me in checkmate. This board is too big for me to see. I'm an ant to your field of view. You may 'win' though. So what. Who cares?

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    21. I'm so far gone that I legitimately don't get it. I legitimately don't know what the fuck you're on about. Game over. Stalemate.

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    22. This board is too big for me to see.

      Well then perhaps you should get out and walk around some. It's a small world, after all.

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    23. Shit Flingging MonkeyAugust 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM

      Medusa, you just spew what you think is intellect but it's just intellectual babble. It makes no sense.

      I get a headache trying to make sense of it.

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    24. Oh Caesar, when will you learn? If you can't see Medusa's moves you have no future here.
      Not that you're transparent, darling, but your intentions were fairly obvious.

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  3. Almost Sociopath

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    Falter Ego

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  4. The only empathy that matters is the one created in action, not in "feelings" or "thoughts". Who gives a fuck about how you feel. Who gives a fuck what you think.

    And you don't even have to call it empathy if you don't want. Call it manipulation, same difference. I don't give a fuck.

    It's just semantics.

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    1. I like you Medusa. You say it how it is. Empathy is just actions. I can't begin to wrap my head around real empathy and I'm loath to try.

      I'm actually afraid that I'm capable of empathy because I'll be weaker for my effort. I've never felt it before ..but in my head I hold the keys to unlock it. Maybe I'll try. I might learn something useful.

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    2. Doesn't matter if you don't "feel" it. You can think it. Same shit. Neither one really matters in the end anyhow, as eventually the lines blur by osmosis anyway.

      The whole cognitive vs. affective empathy question is moot.

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    3. Maybe you're right. But maybe there's something to be gained in more instinctual empathy that sociopaths are missing. Who here's to say?

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    4. The instinct necessary is already there. By definition. It's human nature.

      I believe the word you are looking for is "intuitive".

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    5. 1:05 Mɵᴅʊsa You're absolutely right. That's what I was trying to get at.

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  5. Almost a Psychopath

    By Falter Ego

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    1. ... Because you are so much more credible than the bulk of psychological research and consensus~

      I am left to wonder what part of the word "spectrum" you don't understand, and why you feel a compulsive need to define the term "psychopath" so that it lines up perfectly with your reflection- and your reflection alone.

      Anyway, who cares? I am content to be me.

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    2. I said drop the rock. Your last two sentences are lies.

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    3. But whatever. Your quip is still funny, badass. :)

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    4. That's how it looks to be provoked into a lame reply from the opposite side...

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    5. Oh, Mee! It's mee! Your buddy, Caesar!

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    6. Medusa, if I really wanted to "know" whether I am a sociopath, a "partial psychopath" or a clinical narcissist, I would seek a professional opinion. I've done a lot of soul-searching here which has proved helpful, but nobody on this site is qualified to provide me with a professional diagnosis, and I am not seeking one.

      I am what I am, and I am content.

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    7. I don't know what that was all about, because I only referred to the last two sentences of your 1:55 comment.

      You are doing better, though. I am only going to tell you this time that your last one sentence is a lie.

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    8. Keep your mantra going falter. I'm sure it doesn't take much effort for you to lie to yourself, you've had so much practice.

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    9. Er, wait, I underestimated you. Your last clause is a lie.

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    10. I just hope one day you'll realise, one of my favorite ideas, if everyone says the same thing about you its not a conspiracy, it must be true.

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    11. BAHAHAAAAAAA! Coming from you, that is the funniest thing I have read in awhile, MEE. :)

      You remind me of my parent's yappy little schnauzer: you are nothing but a pathetic little dog that everyone likes to kick. Want me to join the fray?

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    12. Deflection. Nice. But a little too see-through.

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    13. What does everyone say about me?

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    14. What makes you think I am not content, Medusa?
      I certainly feel content. Happy, even, much of the time.

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    15. Its cute to me that persecution validates you.
      Like your existence would cease if everyone around you didn't tell you you were something else.
      The valiant army of one that is ego.
      Let me guess... you've been honest here about your true self for the first time ever, and we don't know you because we think its lies.
      We can just push play on a record with you alter, and you start the oppression Olympics.

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    16. Every sentence someone types you have to explicate and contradict, and elaborate to prove to everyone how content you are...
      And now we're awaiting the novel. Without fail. :-)

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    17. How on earth would you know how I *act*? You are only privy to what I say.

      But I will cease straining at semantic gnats and ask you how what I say leads you to that conclusion.

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    18. I see how you act here. That, to me, is quite enough.

      Semantics don't mean shit.

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    19. You think I am not happy because I contradict people I consider to be assholes, Kany? On the contrary, it pleases me a great deal to do so, albeit in a perverse way.

      Go ahead and think I am a suicidal basket-case if it pleases you.

      Yes, that must be it. I am a suicidal basket-case in disguise. Now where DID I stick that razor blade? :)

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    20. Defend.
      Contradict.
      Justify.
      Convince.
      Lie.

      These are all verbs. In other words, actions.

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    21. Well, basket case I consider accurate.

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    22. On the contrary, semantics are critical to clarity in communication.

      I am not going to spend any more time discussing how happy I am. I have bad and good days like everyone, but on a whole, I've got it pretty good.

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    23. I haven't lied about anything.

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    24. But I will cease straining at semantic gnats and ask you how what I say leads you to that conclusion.

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      On the contrary, semantics are critical to clarity in communication.

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      Game over.

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    25. Let me guess... you've been honest here about your true self for the first time ever, and we don't know you because we think its lies.

      I don't think that most of you assume I am lying- but that is probably just because I have been honest.

      We can just push play on a record with you alter, and you start the oppression Olympics.

      That's nice, but I don't feel oppressed.

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    26. But I will cease straining at semantic gnats and ask you how what I say leads you to that conclusion.

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      On the contrary, semantics are critical to clarity in communication.


      That is just ridiculous. Semantics are critical in conversation, but sometimes a gnat is just a gnat. If I didn't think semantics were important, I wouldn't have a tendency to strain at them, would I?

      Get over yourself, Medusa.

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    27. Let me guess, you've been honest about yourself here for the first time ever

      I haven't lied about anything

      I'm winning!

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    28. I wish I could copy and paste easier. I love that you're explicating sentence by sentence. And you just can't help yourself. I never tire of it when I've got nothing else to do. :-)

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    29. Kany, wtf are you talking about?

      Winning what? A debate with you? That's no great accomplishment.

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    30. Get over yourself, Medusa.

      I did. Your turn.

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    31. You just lack fodder, so you have to grasp at straws. Why don't you be a good girl and please your husband instead of wasting your time with me?

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    32. I did.

      Could have fooled me. Your words indicate otherwise.

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    33. No, silly. I'm never actually debating with you. I don't even read what you say. I just like making you say it... over and over and over and over and over and over...
      :-)
      I keep telling you you're the butt of a joke, too, but you still don't see it. Sigh. Doesn't get old.

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    34. Mɵᴅʊsa 2:45

      Hun, your logic is terrible. You see the contradictory words but don't see that the logics are parallel to the same point. Are you so desperate to 'win' that you jump on the first chance without examining your own reasoning?

      For example:

      These statements are not contradictory or mutually exclusive.

      Semantics are important

      These people using semantics against me are not important

      Tell me how that could be.

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    35. You think UKan doesn't get off on reading what his wife writes here?

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    36. He loves this side of me. It surprises him.

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    37. I don't even read what you say.

      ...And yet you feel qualified to make educated and well-rounded observations concerning me, Kany. You make ignorant judgments because you are, self-admittedly, ignorant! How smooth is that?

      You think UKan doesn't get off on reading what his wife writes here?

      What on earth does that have to do with anything? Ukan can get off on watching ferrets mate, for all I care.

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    38. Ah, but I thought we determined ego, it isn't just me saying it. :-D
      But if it suits you to find me ignorant, fine. I'm taking the "I don't need to hang on your every word to see what you are written all over your every fibre" approach. Dismiss it as predicted. Now tell me again about how you don't care what I think by a sentence by sentence contradiction. :-) that's my favorite hing not to read... your essays. I fast forward to where I see my name.

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    39. Oh great, another clown. Always turning to that grandma shit when they're on the ground.

      Nice try, Julius, but you can't even give a straight answer as to how you define "class".

      You couldn't even read what Alterego said correctly, so your whole 3:01 point is moot. It is indeed contradictory to liken semantics to gnats and then turn around one second later to declare how important semantics are.

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    40. He loves this side of me.

      Mmmm-hmmm. And how long do you figure it will take before he gets bored, dumps you, and exchanges you for a newer, younger model, Kany? 2 years? 5 years... tops?

      You're screwed; I'm not. So of course I win. Elementary psychology. :)

      I'm going to bed now. Goodnight.

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    41. Alter, I have a feeling your husband often tells you that you don't hear a fucking word he says to you. If not yet, he will.

      And yet you feel qualified to make educated and well-rounded observations concerning me, Kany.

      She just told you she doesn't give a shit about that, because no matter what she says to you, you will still defend. contradict. convince. lie.

      And so there's nothing left but amusement at making you dance like a gnat, and burning you with a microscope.

      What on earth does that have to do with anything? Ukan can get off on watching ferrets mate, for all I care.

      You dumb shit. You said:

      Why don't you be a good girl and please your husband instead of wasting your time with me?

      She is pleasing her husband. Via doing this. You dumb shit. Do you hear a word that anyone says?

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    42. Lol. Sigh. Now you're just firing into the dark again. That's why you presume I can't be accurate. Because you can't look away from a mirror long enough to get an accurate picture of anyone. You misfire without aiming and think you'll watch someone crumble before your face...

      Goodnight.

      You aren't gone yet... will you reply to prove me right?

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    43. Well, now she won't. Because she likes to "contradict", for contradiction's sake. What a Christian!

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    44. She doesn't read I word I say, but all of her observations are correct, because I won't acknowledge their validity. Wow, that's logical, Medusa.

      If this is how she pleases her husband, he must get bored pretty fast. I retract my earlier statement. I give her 3 years, tops. :)

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    45. But he didn't liken semantics to gnats, deary. He...oh what's the point. Everyone's against Mɵᴅʊsa is Mɵᴅʊsaland.

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    46. No, I'm not gone yet. I spent a whole extra 3 minutes catfighting with you, just so you can both jump down my throat about not going to bed when I said I would. The nerve of some people!~

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    47. Lolz. You don't even know who Alterego is, you're just trying to defend her to get at me. How weak can you get.

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    48. Everyone here is so fucking ridiculous is makes my face melt. Me included. Comment sections of this entire post has devolved into 5 or 6 one-man circlejerks. Jeez, guys. Have some decency. Have some decorum.

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    49. Don't bother Caesar. Neither Medusa or Kany will *ever* concede to being wrong about anything. In over 9 months, I have not observed a shred of humility from either of them.

      But I'm the narcissist.

      :)

      Good night, for real this time.

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    50. I am very decorous with people who are honest. That's all it takes.

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    51. "Everyone's against Mɵᴅʊsa is Mɵᴅʊsaland."

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      "You don't even know who Alterego is, you're just trying to defend her to get at me."

      :-|

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    52. In over 9 months, I have not observed a shred of humility from either of them.

      But I'm the narcissist.


      HAHAHHAHHAHAHAhahahahAHAHAH

      You don't have NPD, you're just an blind fool.

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    53. How come there are more girls than boys in this place if sociopathy is more common among men?

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    54. Because girls inhabit a different sphere. This kind of board is more satisfying for girls than it is men. Because girls are satisfied in different way and seek satisfaction in different things. I hope you won't make me explain how this is so. Hopefully you have that knowledge already and are now able to connect it because I told you so.

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    55. Because very few, if any, people here are actually sociopaths. And women have more reason to be angry and fight others and themselves than men.

      That's my guess.

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    56. Hopefully you have that knowledge already and are now able to connect it because I told you so.

      Lol, you pigeon you.

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    57. Everyone's life is a struggle with ego----PD or no PD.

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    58. Plant the seed and watch it grow

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    59. I love it. I went to bed after I posted that comment, but I knew when I woke up without fail she would have replied in full. Even when I told her about it.

      I've admitted to being wrong a few times, never to you, because I haven't been, but I've admitted faults.

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  6. In general, low-empathy people (e.g. psychopaths) are inclined to downplay issues of intent, feeling, etc. and hence are inherently likely to argue, "it is what I do that matters, not what I think as I do it."

    Normal people don't think that way. In fact, when they hear you arguing that, they think you sound nuts. It would be a bit like a blind guy saying, "well, I drive my car OK. I haven't hit anyone yet, because I've managed to compensate for my lack of sight."

    Big issue with psychopaths: if they get stressed, they may stop trying to reign things in. At that point, all hell can break loose.

    E.g. put me under enough stress and I'll do very bad things. Where normal people freeze up, I'm likely to get creative, impulsive and thoroughly antisocial.

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    1. It would be a bit like a blind guy saying, "well, I drive my car OK. I haven't hit anyone yet, because I've managed to compensate for my lack of sight."

      There are two groups of people in the world: the one-eyed men, and the blind.

      Which one would you rather be?

      put me under enough stress and I'll do very bad things. Where normal people freeze up, I'm likely to get creative, impulsive and thoroughly antisocial.

      That doesn't much sound like you are "downplaying issues of intent, feeling, etc." at all.

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    2. Don't generalize. I think that way. I can rationalize almost anything.

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    3. "In fact, when they hear you arguing that, they think you sound nuts. It would be a bit like a blind guy saying, "well, I drive my car OK. I haven't hit anyone yet, because I've managed to compensate for my lack of sight."

      That can be a scary thing. His reasoning is sound to me. Who cares what happens in the future if it hasn't happened yet. At least that's his reasoning which I can't argue with.

      "Big issue with psychopaths: if they get stressed, they may stop trying to reign things in. At that point, all hell can break loose.

      E.g. put me under enough stress and I'll do very bad things. Where normal people freeze up, I'm likely to get creative, impulsive and thoroughly antisocial."

      Absolutely. I find I do absolutely sociopathic things when pressured. I've always seen it as a weakness. A compensation for not being able to think up effective empathic ways to respond.

      I once beat my 'friend' with a wooden sword scabbard for messing with my mouth in my sleep. I wasn't sure what he had done but I knew some of the things I might have done and I was incensed. It was an effective reaction. As it turns out he hadn't done anything at all and I had more or less imagined the whole thing. Such is life I guess.

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    4. And one other thing...

      "In fact, when they hear you arguing that, they think you sound nuts. It would be a bit like a blind guy saying, "well, I drive my car OK. I haven't hit anyone yet, because I've managed to compensate for my lack of sight."

      Stevie Wonder sure can play that piano like whoa. Beethoven sure could write that shit like whoa.

      I once beat my 'friend' with a wooden sword scabbard for messing with my mouth in my sleep.

      Quit with the video game ren faire fantasy land bullshit unless you want to end up a hikikomori.

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    5. Or was that some kind of blowjob euphemism that I missed.

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    6. We will not go quietly into the night.

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    7. Who molested you.

      She imagined it. Not exactly a psychopath, but slightly wacko, that one. What's more scary? lol

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    8. I learned something today. Good phrase Medusa.

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  7. How does I italics?

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  8. So for now I'm biding my time and leveling up. That's sound reasoning, isn't it?

    Do you play minecraft by any chance?

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    1. I don't. I see the appeal of it but I don't play it. I like to play MMORPGs. Like Final Fantasy XI and World of Warcraft.

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    2. That's why you think leveling up is a developmental stage or personal achievement.

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    3. Oh yeah. I live in a world were things can be quanitfied into points and achievement milestones. 'Learned Polish' 500LP. 'Finished Pride and Prejudice' 100LP. 30,000 points to next level.

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    4. You and every other waste of space in the world. What's your reward when you get to level 60? Will you finally become a real boy?

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    5. He won't, his max lvl is 40.

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    6. If I ever get to level 60, I'll start doing the things I never did before. Give in to reckless hedonism. Or kill my husband.

      Or I'll have matured and I'll just be happy and content.

      Or I'll change the rules and up the level cap.

      I don't know what I'll do.

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    7. What is your current level?

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    8. Huh. I didn't know you could plan not having a plan. Brave New World.

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    9. Attributing fantasy concepts to reality. Magical thinking. Reward induced behavior.

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    10. Seriously, level points? Also, reading Pride and Prejudice is not a fifth of the difficulty of learning Polish.

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  9. Caesar is Eden, you guys. I am very good with writing styles~

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    1. Who told you to take my cock out of your mouth? Say 'mfhmmfhmmmg.'

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    2. I know that Eden is all over the place. Bitch is obsessive and completely unhinged.

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    3. Thank you. You dawgs are making me doubt my reality ~

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    4. Shut up Plantar. Your podiatrist's office is calling~

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    5. Gungy
      If you have been on my case as this idiot, I am going to be mad at you. BTW, you were right about swearing ~

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  10. People are afraid of things they don't understand and things that are different from them.

    Being different and not being able to explain this difference invokes fear in them. They then resort to implementing the only solution their tiny minds are capable of, eliminating the different which will then logically cause their fear to disappear.

    It's ironic isn't it? In a world where people try to sell the idea of acceptance of an individual, they only practice it when it benefits them.

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  11. Someone from the neighborhoodAugust 7, 2012 at 5:33 AM

    One possible problem with diagnosing based on behavior only: Say someone gets diagnosed with psychopathy because of their crimes during the years between age 18 and 30, but then they change their behavior and manage to quit antisocial behavior altogether. They may even become a loving husband (or wife) and be great with kids.

    Are they still psychopaths or should they have their diagnosis recanted?

    If yes, the diagnosis would more or less take on the meaning that 'criminal' and 'antisocial' already has, it will become a needless notion altogether.

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    1. Sociopaths never stop, that's why it's called a personality disorder.

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    2. You're slightly misinformed. We're not all compulsive in how we behave. A lot has to do with circumstance and opportunity as well. Personally I've done a variety of crimes I don't intend to repeat ever again. There isn't any reason why I would either, since I did what I did out of curiosity and as experimental pass time.

      An example: I raped twice before I hit 20 and haven't done it since. I'm now in my late thirties and haven't even felt tempted to repeat it.

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    3. Were they guys? Do tell Someone from the neighborhood...

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    4. Yeah, I relate to this. I used to be a killer and a rapist as well. I used to eat humans and cut their heads off, and play football with them. I used to take somebody's eyes off and play ping pong with it, but now I'm doing fine, I'm a loving boyfriend and I don't misbehave anymore.

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    5. Studies have shown ASPD to subside as a person matures into middle age and beyond. Unsure if this is because individuals start to develop a sense of empathy or their impulse control issues manifest differently with age.

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    6. The psychopathy diagnosis was created as a basis for normal people trying to understand a certain kind of people. There's more to this than the crimes we do or the whole idea would never have come into existence in the first place.

      I understand what Birdick means when he suggests we focus on behavior only and forget about the 'inner life' of people like us, and sure, that would most likely work - if you're a psychopath. Viewed from the inside there's no mystery, nothing to understand, but that's no how normal non-psychopathic people think. To them the feelings are of supreme import, believe it or not.

      To take out the attempt to measure our inner life when dealing out psychopathy diagnoses would also take away it's meaningfulness to the normal majority it was made for.

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    7. Rape twice, but never again, and somehow that is sufficient to ameliorate lacking a conscience? That is a shoddy example.

      Because anyone was rapey or murderous at a point in their life and then they decided they got over the urge, their behavior should be forgotten? Fuck, that person could have had a revelation during or after that last exploit that caused them to reconsider future episodes. That rapist could have newfound fear.

      If we use the circumstance and opportunity presents itself reasoning, and somehow whatever risk is taken out of the mind of the recidivist, sure she would offend again. Until a repeat offense she has a conscience? Hell no.

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    8. Someone is 100% correct.

      The psychopathy diagnosis was created as a basis for normal people trying to understand a certain kind of people.

      The terms 'psychopath' and 'sociopath' were created for the non-psychopaths and non-sociopaths. The words are merely shorthand for describing someone else's external manifestation. They have no value to a sociopath or a psychopath, except as a series of letters in a line.

      Hence...

      To take out the attempt to measure our inner life when dealing out psychopathy diagnoses would also take away it's meaningfulness to the normal majority it was made for.

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    9. changed name... perhaps you should learn to tell the difference between an idiot and a troll. They are not the same thing.

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  12. Themes is working on hyper linking. Forgive him until that time.

    Theme for Alterego

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    1. Is Themes a "him" now?

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    2. he was always a him

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    3. What's Themes' story? We know nothing about him. How did he become Themes?

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    4. Everyone already knows the answer to that.

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    5. Themes is an unknown. He has his own Theme Song.

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    6. Themes is Monica

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    7. How do you know?

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    8. Everybody knows it, dumbasses.

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    9. I don't think so,dumbass.

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    10. Fuck all your dumbasses

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    11. You're creating tunes for the regular readers on this site?

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    12. I do. It's a way of expressing my feelings towards the regulars.

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    13. Said by an anonymous? How about I pull out my main account, huh, how about that?

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    14. Music touches me more than I let a real person come close so I like it. Thank you.

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    15. Ha. Monica pretending to be anonymous now. Pathetic.

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    16. Ha Themes is not Monica

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    17. Themes is a guy

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    18. He is a gay guy

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  13. come live in europ only need 28 on pcl-r

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    1. Yeah, I heard that. Absurd! Before we know it you'll only need 18 and then 8.

      Did you know the 'average' score among non-psychopaths is between 4 and 6? Well it is.

      (I'm not kidding, look it up!)

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  14. what is on ukans photo?

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    1. It's Reynard the fox, I think. A nasty and ruthless character, but I loved him, he's charismatic and clever. It's UKan, haha.

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  15. Is Gungy,Tyler and Lil Boo the same person?

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    1. MAN
      You should be a forensic scientist ~

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    2. Tom Hill is pretty cool. Many of us die and come back as new people ~

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    3. Lol. That's a pretty good one, Erin. ~
      I asked you some questions on another thread. I can't remember which.
      Can we start a thread in the forum to consolidate this conversation?

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    4. I don't go in the Forum. How about we go back on that other thread? I answered.

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  16. Sometimes, I want to be an Anon. That option is allowed on SW.

    Indeed it is. We are allowed enough rope to virtually hang ourselves. It's one of the beauties of this place. But it can't, and doesn't, work if it is clung to in an attempt to avoid reproach or responsibility. That would negate the capacity for positive benefit, don't you think?

    How can you grow and face yourself if you're clinging to a screen you hide behind. A hiding place only you think keeps you hidden. That's why everyone who has been here for a while calls you on it. It is one of your most glaring delusions.

    Ellicit, just saw this, and it explains perfectly why I'm in such religious opposition to anonymous posting. You can't grow if you don't accept your image.

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  17. Kany
    I am not an Anon to hide important info. Sometimes, I want to just comment as an Anon.

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    1. To be 100% honest, you didn't even cross my mind when I said that. I was typing generally.

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    2. LOL Well, I value being an authentic and open person on here. I take pride in that, as that is my life's goal.

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    3. Bullshit. You hide behind anons so you don't have to take responsibility when you're being a bitch.

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    4. While were on the subject, you also do it to hide when you're upset. Or to hide your affinities, and your pride. You're too timid to own your opinions because you're afraid they'll be wrong.

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    5. Once in a while but I need to use my inner claw, so usually I don't do it as an Anon.

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    6. We all know when its you anyways. You're only fooling yourself. You might as well just come out with yourself here. If anything, wed probably like you more. Cowardice is pretty strongly looked down upon.

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    7. Sometimes, people think it is me, when it is not, but I will take what you say under advisement ~

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    8. See, when you say things anonymously it gives us leeway to turn every stupid thing any anon says into something you say... it allows us to makeyou up to be even worse than you are because we wouldn't put things past you. Its better to be consistent and criticised for what you are then to be lumped into what you are not.

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    9. Sometimes she has good reason for being anonymous. I agree that it's shooting yourself in the foot to hide under an anon when you are upset or backed into a corner, but at the same time, some things are best said when not attached to an ego or a person.

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  18. Wow. Someone's got a guilty conscience. I just thought it was well worded of Ellicit.

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    1. Not a problem. I'm often impressed by your insight.

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    2. Has your name always been spelled with one l? I thought it used to have two.

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    3. It did have two and my previous account in the forum has three L's. That's due to my previous two Google accounts being suspended, and I wasn't going to give them a cell number to reactivate them.

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    4. I will never give Google my number.

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