Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Music cognition and broken brains

A reader sent me this New York Times article about music cognition that had a section on how people with Autism process music differently from everyone else, less emotionally:
Daniel J. Levitin, director of the laboratory for music perception, cognition and expertise at McGill University in Montreal, began puzzling over musical expression in 2002, after hearing a live performance of one of his favorite pieces, Mozart’s Piano Concerto No. 27.

“It just left me flat,” Dr. Levitin, who wrote the best seller “This Is Your Brain on Music” (Dutton, 2006), recalled in a video describing the project. “I thought, well, how can that be? It’s got this beautiful set of notes. The composer wrote this beautiful piece. What is the pianist doing to mess this up?”

To decipher the contribution of different musical flavorings, [Levitan and a graduate student a pianist] perform snatches of several Chopin nocturnes on a Disklavier, a piano with sensors under each key recording how long he held each note and how hard he struck each key (a measure of how loud each note sounded). The note-by-note data was useful because musicians rarely perform exactly the way the music is written on the page — rather, they add interpretation and personality to a piece by lingering on some notes and quickly releasing others, playing some louder, others softer.

The pianist’s recording became a blueprint, what researchers considered to be the 100 percent musical rendition. Then they started tinkering. A computer calculated the average loudness and length of each note Professor Plaunt played. The researchers created a version using those average values so that the music sounded homogeneous and evenly paced, with every eighth note held for an identical amount of time, each quarter note precisely double the length of an eighth note.

Study subjects listened to them in random order, rating how emotional each sounded. Musicians and nonmusicians alike found the original pianist’s performance most emotional and the averaged version least emotional.
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[T]he Levitin team found that children with autism essentially rated each nocturne rendition equally emotional, finding the original no more emotionally expressive than the mechanical version. But in other research, the team found that children with autism could label music as happy, sad or scary, suggesting, Dr. Levitin said, that “their recognition of musical emotions may be intact without necessarily having those emotions evoked, and without them necessarily experiencing those emotions themselves.”

136 comments:

  1. off topic question:

    are most psychopaths sexual deviants? is that the case for any of you guys?

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  2. the topic is great, our piano experts should pick it up soon.

    gotta post the following off topic, sorry. the 9:36 post (below) was at the end of an older post, did not get a chance to be viewed by SW properly.

    As I was reading this note I felt dejavu, to the point of questioning myself if I wrote the note and then forgot about it. Very curious.

    The only root difference between the gifted sociopaths and myself is that I perceive my actions coming out of respect and love for humanity. I also feel true joy when I see a happy person whose reason to be happy fits my moral code (being able to lead a life the way the way you want it to be, not defined by others, and not threatening key universal values--a touch of conflict with violent SW members).

    So this anon @9:36 and I, is there such a thing as sociopath who believes to be motivated by the good of others? Is s/he doing this to gain instant rapport subconsciously?

    How did this anon get to squeeze his 9:36 note in between 6:50 pm and 8:27 pm? I did not notice any irregularity in chronical sequencing before.


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    Anonymous said...
    Brilliant, Dio?
    April 23, 2011 6:50 PM

    Anonymous said...
    I always thought I was a really weird person. I attributed it to my intelligence - just figured someone with high IQ must end up seeing things differently.

    Reading this blog for a couple weeks has me thinking maybe I'm a sociopath or aspd or something. I'm a bit old to be realizing this now, which points to not a sociopath (generally self-aware). Also I couldn't imagine sawing into another person's flesh or holding someone's hand on a hot stove.

    The funny thing is, I've been really convinced for a very long time that I have empathy. Like when I see a person hurt my *immediate* instinct is to help them. But I realized shit I might just know that it's the best opportunity to build a relationship fast. Who's a cheaper date than someone who needs medical attention, for instance? Hey look I ripped up my t-shirt, stopped the bleeding, and saved your life. Instant rapport!

    Reading these manipulation techniques I'm thinking "yup", "yup", "yup", "check", "check", "check", etc.

    Actually I've known about sociopathy for quite a while. At first very disturbing and I came here to learn how to fight a sociopath. Little bastards keep showing up at parties. It's really obvious to me when someone else is trying to "win" a conversation, instead of just talking.

    Ended up finding a beautiful similarity between the more intelligent posters here and myself. Actually since reading this I'm no longer offended by the p/s types around me who manipulate conversations to gain image - instead I just see it as part of the game.

    You all are beautiful, beautiful creatures. Except the stupid ones. Except the stupid ones who are actually smart. That's another thing I've wondered about myself. Am I actually not really smart, but rather right at the maximum smartness to be smart but not smart enough to hide it level? Hmm.

    the anonymous feature is nice. I know some of you peeps are within cruise missile range of me

    I think perhaps I've gone way too long without just admitting to myself that yes, my true nature is that kid I used to be. If I become aware of the mask it's scary, but being scared of the mask is part of the mask.
    hmmmmmmmm

    April 24, 2011 9:36 PM



    Anonymous said...
    @Anon 9:36.
    That your impression of Aspie? Not so much.
    I could teach you, but then you'd know I wasn't really an Aspie.
    April 25, 2011 8:27 PM

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  3. 'You all are beautiful, beautiful creatures.'

    Say what? They all seem like scumbags to me.

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  4. one more thing that I can't resolve.

    since early childhood I assumed the code 'don't lie' that was given by my dad. i stay true to this, but use it to my advantage by exposing those who lie and by completely avoiding any notion of getting caught. it also is so much less hassle to have only one version to every story.

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  5. I also started seeing SW people as beautiful creatures, because they appear true to themselves, and they don't others define or control them. this sure seems to be the most important value in my mind. i dislike the slave mentality the most.

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  6. Good god, man, has there ever been a love-in so rapturous as when you're gazing in the mirror? Less mooning over yourself and more shadow play, please.

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  7. yes, frenzy, that is what's going on. except, do those who claim to be the real socios in SW care for others? like UKan, or Gag, or Note. Do they see the others as beautiful creatures? Do you?

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  8. Related to the post:

    I'm sorry but what does that mean?

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  9. i've had enough of this faggotry

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  10. you had enough faggotry.. take time out, go slap the monkey. pinch a loaf and make a beauty mask. do something.

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  11. i'm gonna go drink a six pack of beer, screw a fat girl and eat a bucket of chicken while i cry silently to myself, like a rel man.

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  12. i am the king socio, bow b4 me

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  13. Nice with a bit of positive debate for once...


    Socio o no,

    I'll answer your question:

    "yes, frenzy, that is what's going on. except, do those who claim to be the real socios in SW care for others? like UKan, or Gag, or Note. Do they see the others as beautiful creatures? Do you?"

    I answer for myself here, but what I say is common for my diagnosis category (Psychopath).

    I can experience a sense of mixed admiration and slight envy when I meet someone who really does have the qualities I find great. But it's usually not such a strong sensation that I can't abstract and basically stop experiencing it if I choose to.

    The more common thing in places where random people with psychopathic and/or sociopathic personalities meet is not a notion that the others are beautiful people.

    On the contrary, rather. We harbor a lot of contempt, and grandiosity makes is hard to approve of others: I am always the best!
    The point here is to understand that it isn't an attitude. It's a central part of our personality make up.

    I'm afraid we're generally not that likable beneath the charming surface... generally speaking, that is.

    Like everybody else we are individuals, and we have a variety of qualities and preferences.

    But I'll say that I agree with you, when you say the intelligent ones are - in a sense - "beautiful"; at least when we compare them with the common subdued self-denying, sleep-walking neurotypical person.

    But that was another generalization. I guess we all generalize. It's hard not to, giving the circumstances of mass consumerism and mass brain-death.


    M.E.,

    that's an interesting finding about the Autistics being able to spot emotional music so precisely. I'd be interested in hearing if autistics have difficulties with identifying the kinds of emotions that psychopaths have that blindness for (like Disgust - looks like everything else: anger, surprise, worry, concentration, etc.)

    I recognize this in a way... or I think I do. Yeah, last night I listened to one of the few things by Beethoven that doesn't appeal to me (An Freude, or Joy/about joy). I could detect some different emotions, but it was just recognition.

    People aren't supposed to feel every emotion they recognize in others or in music, paintings, T-shirts and cigarette labels.

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  14. zhawq,

    thank you, I appreciate your response. Strangely enough, despite the fact that I see them beautiful I also share your notion that I still am better, and upping others theoretically, and practically gives me an amazing high. It's as if I want them to approach only to prove I can be better with my very quick learning.

    I have to say, I am slowly getting scared of my own self, that I may have lived with a socio self for all those years and never really knew. It's like a coming out party.

    Once I accept that I went by a few strict moral codes, such as 'don't lie' and 'don't attack unless attacked' the rest of me is a high functioning socio with a score of 21 in the narcissist test we did the other day.

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  15. does your screen name mean anything, zhawq?

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  16. socio o no at 5:16am:

    To my mind true beauty is synonymous with meaning laid bare. Of course, I enjoy the restless quest for aesthetic perfection in expression. There are a lot of fine words and turns of phrases stage-managed elegantly here. But it's the exchange of alternative viewpoints, and my own urge to ponder the imponderable, which entices me to linger: the unfathomable is fascinating. I like to collect other people's ways of experiencing the world, much like stamps, and looking out at life through an unconscionable lens is rare.

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  17. "People aren't supposed to feel every emotion they recognize in others."

    But many of us can.

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  18. frenzy,
    are u flirting with me? i'm getting warm all over.

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  19. Whatever, impostor.

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  20. You all are beautiful, beautiful CREATURES (and I stress)

    Zhwaq wrote . . .
    We harbor a lot of contempt, and grandiosity makes is hard to approve of others . . The point here is to understand that it isn't an attitude. It's a central part of our personality make up.

    Music to my ears.

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  21. I am waiting for Medusa . . . our resident musicologist to show up.

    A donde tu?

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  22. en su casa, no esta muerte ya

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  23. Soul why are you always so positive? All this positiveness kinda weirds me out. Socio o no being positive even frenzy wasn't that negative. WTF is it spring time in SW? Least Zhawq was his normal neutral self.

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  24. If you have the moral code of 'attack only if attacked' then you aren't a sociopath, or maybe I'm trying to kill all goodness in you?

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  25. Sociopaths or narcissists are pessimists.

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  26. No they aren't. I am a realist. I don't care to put a positive or negative spin on things. I just want to have them flat. Cut and dry. To the point without prejudice. Then again my paranoia goes off when ever things look too nice. I start to wonder where the rub comes in.

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  27. You know when you get really good at something, it gets boring.

    How do you sociopaths not get bored with all the manipulation you do?

    I've found since I've become emotionally more self-aware and therefore more distanced from it than I was before, I can use manipulation pretty easily. But, it gets boring, since it's pretty easy.

    I think it shows that it can be pretty beautiful to be the one being manipulated. The effects last a lot longer than being the manipulator.

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  28. 'Soul why are you always so positive? All this positiveness kinda weirds me out. Socio o no being positive even frenzy wasn't that negative. WTF is it spring time in SW? Least Zhawq was his normal neutral self.'

    kesu, look closer

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  29. kesu,

    i learned the value of positive wordage in hypnosis years ago and that became my vocabulary. i'd rather put the spin on the positive side, that is my nature, and believe me if an agnostic is a sheep in wolf's clothing, so are pessimists.

    learn from God, the ultimate narcissist/sociopath, learn from religion, the governments, the ruling class. Watch The American Ruling Class video and decide. I am like you, meaning I see the reality, but I word it with a positive spin, while you are uncomfortable with that I am very uncomfortable all the sheepishness when I see all the negative low functioning remarks. yet, I can be sceli, I can be virtual sis, I can be socio o no.

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  30. Kesu, "All this positiveness kinda weirds me."

    Keeps you on your toes.

    not me "kesu, look closer"

    Thank you, not me, my point exactly.

    The question is "Why are some Socio's so negative
    and how does that serve?" "And how does it serve
    to see life through a lens of beauty?"

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  31. OUCH! now I'm a socio??

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  32. whoever stays around here, beware... the stuff is contagious, we're about to form a common SW culture...

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  33. I like what Kesu said yesterday, that he has pride and somethings hesee's as beneath him.

    Gag, LOL

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  34. I'm use to combative situations. Hostility is the norm for me. That doesn't mean I am constantly hostile rather I am just comfortable in that state. I think most of you know by now that I generally don't attack first. That is another reason positiveness can be off putting to me. It veils intentions. Today is making me feel stupid. Irritating how I didn't put that virtual sis and sceli were the same person. So sceli(Thats the name I like best out of all of them) why are you here?

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  35. I've never had someone jump me or start a fight with me, I'm always the provoker.

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  36. Positivesness threatens you? Fake respect and situatonal loyalty is more off putting. Btw I've seen a dog commit suicide once.

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  37. Positiveness comes off as fake to me. Always fake. Thus why I never respond to compliments.

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  38. Trudat. I wouldn't know how to either. I'd rather see actions that shows real appreciation and interest. But fake people are funny when you have them figured out and have them say exactly what you expected them to say.

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  39. 'Positiveness comes off as fake to me. Always fake.'

    whoa, that's quite a statement!

    btw, you aren't stupid, i've just been here longer than you and know these people and some of their little tricks. ;)

    oh sorry, was that a compliment? I take it back. You're dumb. ;)

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  40. I see things thru slit eyes

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  41. Well we all have a hand in creating our existance.
    Be it negative or positive, their both there in equal measure.

    Guess it's what serves you best.

    Being around negative people is not of any value to me. And time withthem is cut short. It's energy draining.

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  42. I'm negative towards others not myself, I criticise friends constantly behind their backs, I don't mind if I'm called two faced.

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  43. kesu, if you met me irl you might thing i'm fake then. I rarely do neutral emotions and am usually very positive or negative. Being neutral is like my respite, i enjoy it since it's rare.

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  44. I'm always intriqued by the power play when people who are threatened or don't really respect you but don't wanna show that they're assholes, lavish you with compliments about the smallest inconsequential things but consciously choose to ignore the complete picture.

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  45. I'm either a little up or a little down, usually in the middle, I never manage to go into an extreme mood, except when I'm angry, even then it isn't intense, you have to have heart to have passion.

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  46. kesu, i am here because i am still able to learn a lot. i really like the people here, i like peopls' honest declarations of their mind, feelings, or lack of feelings.

    you keep asking why, as if one can take advantage of you. relax. learn to trust yourself that no one can change you unless you want to.

    you like sceli. when you said 'you wanted to kick me' when i was feeling very lonely it felt like a connection to me. it felt good. just like you couldn't explain why you wanted to kick me, i couldn't explain why it felt good. but it did.

    so? is that not enough to be here?

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  47. kesu, i am here because i am still able to learn a lot. i really like the people here, i like peopls' honest declarations of their mind, feelings, or lack of feelings.

    you keep asking why, as if one can take advantage of you. relax. learn to trust yourself that no one can change you unless you want to.

    you like sceli. when you said 'you wanted to kick me' when i was feeling very lonely it felt like a connection to me. it felt good. just like you couldn't explain why you wanted to kick me, i couldn't explain why it felt good. but it did.

    so? is that not enough to be here?

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  48. when someone gives me a compliment, i smile and say 'thank you.' and not think anything about it. people's compliments hardly make a difference in my psychology unless I am down that day. but they are a good pick me up if I agree with the compliment and I am somehow needy that day.

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  49. Neediness is something I wouldn't show easily, though I must admit sometimes you must in order to get.

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  50. :) i said when I am not when I show. ACtually, maybe you explained why I am here better than I could. SW is the only place I would accept that sometimes I am needy and lonely. I never show weakness. And that may well be my biggest weakness.

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  51. oh, remembered one more thing i enjoy about SW. You know how some barks start all of a sudden, ro someone attack someone for no good reason, I bark back at those people as anon and use the kind of slang I could never use irl. And, that actually is fun, I bounce giggling in my seat that I'm saying such horrible things.

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  52. Let me clear something up. I talk about my paranoia knowing full well that it is irrational. In this way I keep it "contained" as in not letting it show on the outside. I know how to take compliments and even if they feel fake I'll say thank you. The thing I like most about this place is that there are no allies. Just as there are no true enemies. Who ever you may cross is just because of them being on the other side of the road. In that instance you have an opponent. It is very apparent. The way it usually plays out is in small bursts of intelligent aggression(most of the time). I like it though. As far as you being fake notme I think everyone is fake. It is even true to a certain extent. Even neurotypicals put on masks to fit in.
    Now all of my thinking stems from the need to identify clear objectives. In others and myself. This is both a strength and a weakness. Since I am only ever thinking about getting from point A to point B everything else that isn't involved is irrelevant to me. However my paranoia makes up some of that weakness since it is constantly looking out for others objectives. However in this way of thinking it is hard for me to understand not having an objective. IE: Me and a friend both play the same game. I'm amazing at it. I can out think out strategize and out maneuver most players in the game. I literally lead my team to wins. I am an invaluable asset. Since I am so hyper competitive it pushes me further makes me better and it makes me demand that my team live up to a standard. Even though the standard is far lower then the standard I hold myself to. My objective in this is very clear. To be the best. The absolute best. To be such a dominating and intimidating force that my mere presence is a cause for worry and concern. In fact often this is exactly how it plays out. I'm like this in all things I am competitive about. I've been called to serious often but yet so many flock to the one who holds the title of best or at least people who are highly skilled. Now my friend on the other hand is the exact opposite. Yes he wants to be good but he generally Derps(what we call his retarded behavior) around without a clear idea of what to do. He says he plays for fun. I say I play to win. Winning is the only fun there is. Losing to me is painful. It damn near comes close to a physical pain for me and can set me off rather quickly. Never will you see a more rage inspired me then when I lose because of someone's idiocy. Because of all this I can't understand his perspective at all. There is no clear objective. I understand enjoying ones self but my enjoyment usually comes from achieving. I have diversions such as this place. However I learn from this place. See new perspectives and what not which is still achieving to me. It is still gaining and moving forward. He loses most of the time unless he is playing the worst of the worst or I am playing and literally do all the work myself. I can't imagine it being fun for him. So in total I can't see his objective which annoys me.

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  53. i love screwing around when i'm supposed to be working and i love screwing up and letting people down. i love failing, i love the idea of being a deadbeat and a loser, i'm playing to lose. i know i'm not a sociopath, so what the hell is wrong with me?

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  54. there are people who savor every little bite of every gourmet meal. then there are people who may even forget to eat.

    who is to say the latter are annoying because they don't have a winner style objective around eating?

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  55. To me winning is there is. There is nothing else. I don't fall in love. I don't make real connections. I have no care for anything other then me. There is only winning. I speed eat. Why because I hate wasting time to do it and I don't feel hunger. I'm driven in competition. Without it I'm lost and bored. If you aren't the best the greatest the strongest the fastest the smartest the superstar the winner the ruler you are nothing. I can't define my world by anything other then these terms. There are predators and there are prey. There are the chaser and the chased. The master and the slave. The superior and the inferior. The alive and the dead.

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  56. is it possible to not be a socio or a narcissist, yet still be a winner? in moderate terms maybe but not on the grand stage.

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  57. Kesu, let's get married. i'll let you win every game we play. sorry about today, though. hehehehe

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  58. Of course. Not every winner is a socio nor is every highly competitive person. I doubt every socio is obsessed with winning like me. Maybe they are. I dunno.

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  59. I am absolutely obsesses with winning in certain areas and couldn't care less in certain other areas. Yu are too, you just don't see it that way somehow. Your eating habits is not those of a winner, duhhhh...

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  60. I hate being allowed to win... -_- It's like this.

    Friend: Fight the weak guys.
    Me: I don't want to fight the weak guys.
    Friend: Why not? A win is a win right?
    Me: No a win against the weak is meaningless. I want to topple giants with my bare hands.

    Being allowed to win is just as useless. In fact it is probably more insulting because if you allowed me to win it means that could have beaten me. My competitive side is not meant to be toyed with. I become another person when I enter that state. When it is going well people call me too serious. When it is going badly people say I am terrifying.

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  61. soulful, you eat in a fashion you enjoy the way your table looks, no?

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  62. No anon. The majority of the winners I assume you are talking about (bankers, politicians etc) aren't psychopaths, they may be narcissistic or they have been molded from childhood - teens, to occupy that certain seat. Psychopaths usually become murderers/rapists during their life-time.

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  63. kesu, you ARE intense. I like it, but it's also good to lighten up as you get older. imagine you being this intense at 95...

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  64. Go out and do something about it Kesu, rather than talk about it.

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  65. ok, on the light side, before i get going, should it be pink or red nail polish?

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  66. when i was young I used to hold off before answering the teachers giving the kids in the class a chance to answer. teachers would realize this is what was happening and after they waited enough they would call on me knowing I knew the answer. now, that was power.

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  67. I do you fool. I've been doing it since I was young... I can remember the day I pledged never to be weak again. I do compete everyday. EVERY DAMN DAY! In a multitude of things. Enough is never enough.

    Pink. It's feminine.

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  68. and, knowing I never raised my hand to try to answer students did not resent me at all. I would help them with their hmw, plus during the exams.

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  69. Shut up you geek, you are a nobody.

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  70. eww no, pink is vapid. red all the way :)

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  71. And you are a whiny man-child who is incapable of achieving anything.

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  72. notme, pink is in fashion now. you are hot blooded, red all the way.

    is adam talking to me? smartie is sceli. and it is my nail polish too.

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  73. so you must be super rich and living in a gigantic mansion and driving six sportcars if you're the best, the greatist , the strongestm the blah blah blah, right kesu?

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  74. lol i am sceli. I only wear red make-up for colour and dark eyeshadow/liner.

    i love me some Red. :D

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  75. Kesu is loving all this new found attention, it's a pity nobody significant is giving him any, I never have and neither do the important posters.

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  76. Anon:

    "does your screen name mean anything, zhawq?"

    It's a re-writing of the word Shark.

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  77. adam is jealous... you don't need attention today, you've been doing well lately, no significant raging. how old are you adam? I think you said it once but not sure, somewhere between 18-21?

    looks like it's just the four of us today. i was hoping to learn some from medusa related to today's post.

    do you have red high heels, notme?

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  78. but zhawq is a cute version of shark, not scary. cute psychopath, are we?

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  79. 'Kesu is loving all this new found attention, it's a pity nobody significant is giving him any, I never have and neither do the important posters.'

    this is one of those rare occasions where you're absolutely correct, adam! he's ignored by most of the main cast, unless they're hurling abuse at him.

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  80. YOU ARE RIGHT MR ZHAWQ!!!! :):):)

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  81. YES! But they aren't stilettos or anything. They are little red leather ankle boots with a nice heel on them. I mainly wear boots, different types, I love them.
    I have a cute brown pair, very victorian-like, also ankle height which lace all the way up. So cute. :)

    I get them all second hand but usually barely worn. :)

    Ooh ooh, I also have this gorgeous skirt which you might like, it's just below knee length with loads of colours, orange, red, yellow, green, and has little repeat images of indian dancing girls on it. sounds weird, but it's sooo lovely.

    sorry, i just love talking about my colourful clothes! haha.

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  82. Mr Zhawq..... R u from MIssissippi, Adam? Or, Alabama?

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  83. Why don't you find a fashion blog to talk about that? -.-

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  84. LMAO sorry Kesu! I couldn't help myself.

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  85. I like them all, notme. The boots, i love boots too.

    once i was wearing my red high stilettos with open toes (and red nail polish was showing) and this guy just grabbed my foot and started kissing my toes in the middle of everyone. I had just met all but one person at that table. good deal, to get toe attention.

    i'm heading out. talk to you all later...

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  86. Anonymous said...

    so you must be super rich and living in a gigantic mansion and driving six sportcars if you're the best, the greatist , the strongestm the blah blah blah, right kesu?

    April 26, 2011 2:54 PM

    I'm not particularlly materialistic. I do have nice things though. Like a fast car and nice place to live etc etc. I deem success through achievement. You can be born to money and never achieve a thing.

    As far as attention goes I don't need it. I receive daily recognition. People come to me to solve problems ask advice or to have me on their team. People like to win and I'm compelled to the state of winning. So people come to follow and ride my coat tails.

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  87. I didn't write the comment about finding the fashion blog.

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  88. you're a fucking hippy, kesu. kesu kesu i just smoked a dooby do!!! lololololhahahahah!!!

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  89. why do all the maschoistic women come on here? you are disgusting, if you had a sociopath as a boyfriend you would never want to associate with that kind again.

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  90. hey anon, shut the fuck up!

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  91. A person's life can be determined by looking at three factor. 1) genetics 2) parents 3) personal character. Of course there is a definite age factor here too.

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  92. Interesting idea. Why not post it under your own name?

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  93. dooby do who says what's thought by the rest of youApril 26, 2011 at 4:46 PM

    hey kesu! shut the fuck up!

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  94. and to cover a few of your next comments with the appropriate response:

    shut the fuck up!
    shut the fuck up!
    shut the fuck up!
    shut the fuck up!
    shut the fuck up!
    shut the fuck up!

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  95. dooby do and happier than youApril 26, 2011 at 4:51 PM

    lol :D

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  96. Kesu:

    "I can't imagine it being fun for him. So in total I can't see his objective which annoys me."

    He's there to socialize.


    Sceli/Notme,

    stick with the name Sceli, it's a good name.


    "but zhawq is a cute version of shark, not scary. cute psychopath, are we?"

    Oh I'm very, very cute. *S*

    I have a pretty face and used to be called 'pretty boy' when I was younger. Of course I felt I should be recognized for my intellectual virtues. Today my friends will sometimes tease me by referring to my looks, lol.

    But I guess that's the way it goes: We're never satisfied with what we have. I wanted more than my looks, so it's a good thing to me that I got more. :)

    Red! It's sensual.

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  97. dooby do and stronger than youApril 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM

    i could beat you all in an arm wrestling match, with both arms tied behind my back!! :D #1

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  98. it's hard not to trust a man with a beard, which is why i have one!!!! :D

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  99. Dooby do and brainless was gagged and thrown into the dumpster.

    He will not speak on behalf of others again, thank god!

    (what a numbnut)

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  100. dooby do watchya gonna do????!!!!!April 26, 2011 at 5:10 PM

    hey zhawq! i'm speaking on behalf of you, and saying that you think of yourself as a great guy!!! what do you have to say about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?? :D

    i learnt how to fly a helicopter, so that i could crash it!!!!!!

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  101. dooby do didn't really kill youApril 26, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    i framed myself for murder!!!!!

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  102. @Zhawq

    Ah, it must be so easy for you to play the cuddly, easy-going nerdy mask to make people clueless

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  103. What is the point in that? He has nothing to gain here, if anything his real self should show when he is anonymous. Zhawq isn't a psychopath.

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  104. i cannibalized a goat!!!!!!

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  105. Individuals with antisocial personality disorder tend o have long histories of violating the rights of others (Widiger & Corbitt, 1994).

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  106. I hate people who takes other people's names because they take away a part of my identity.

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  107. i violated the rights of a wardrobe!!!!!!!!!!

    tables are ironic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  108. My theory is that 99% of anons are a standard deviation below normal intelligence.

    Of course this is just an educated guess, if an actual study were performed, it would probably be two standard deviations below normal intelligence.

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  109. Antisocial Personality Disorder, Sociopathy and Psychopathy are actually three different conditions, though related.

    That's why I usually make sure to include my diagnosis when I say something that may not apply to the other labels.

    Just a way of making sure I don't mess up, hehe.

    Well, Braindead time has started, see ya later, folks!... '^L^,

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  110. Jason,

    "Of course this is just an educated guess, if an actual study were performed, it would probably be two standard deviations below normal intelligence."

    You can say that again! ;)

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  111. dooby do more the inventor than youApril 26, 2011 at 5:51 PM

    i invented the question mark!!!!!!!!!! :D

    i invented gravity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i invented croatia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  112. Zhawq

    i'm not sceli btw. i only have this identity, notme

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  113. how did all this skin get on my arm!!!!!!!!??????

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  114. Notme i am in my early 20s are you?

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  115. maybe yesme - why? who are you?

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  116. nan i bet you are younger. or at least act younger than your age

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  117. notme said...
    maybe yesme - why? who are you?

    April 26, 2011 6:41 PM

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  118. Zhawq said...

    Well, Braindead time has started, see ya later, folks!... '^L^,

    April 26, 2011 5:47 PM

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  119. 'nan i bet you are younger. or at least act younger than your age'

    hm, so? I can be mature and boring too.

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  120. is boring a bad thing?

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  121. is being young at heart a bad thing?

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  122. I bet you are borderline.

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  123. no, i'm a sociopath, like Gag.

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  124. I am a sociopath to those I dislike.

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  125. On contempt/rivalry with each other:

    I look at it like this. People like us see through most of the bullshit in life. We find something we like, and we run with it 100 and crazy percent. The idea of settling for average is completely foreign. It's not a state of thinking you're the best, it's a state of inevitably becoming the best (or pretty fucking good in your own right). The desire and drive, well, it's almost savage when you think about it, hell, it is sometimes in the literal sense.

    All that mastery, all that ego, and all those pathetic average/below average people you deal with day in and day out become scenery, barely a blip on the radar. Filler, if you will. When I run across someone like me, it's like waking up and enjoying the smell of napalm. The only question is whose side are we going to be on?

    Sure, working together is mutually beneficial. But here's the thing. Creatures like us weren't built with knees that bend easy. Nor hands that hold one another. It can be done, but it sure isn't fun.

    Contempt is all part of the fun, the game, the excitement. Bearing your teeth and drawing some blood, that's what it's all about. It's what keeps life exciting.

    People like to say, all things in moderation. Fuck moderation, and the person who coined that. If you're living life in moderation, you aren't fucking living!

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  126. Yes, a deep red nail polish with a subtle bronze metallic effect is the best choice when living life which abhors moderation. Matches the savage complexity of one's game face.

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  127. Pink is the color for summer, virgins and Italian men.

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  128. Don't you mean Irishmen? :P

    I don't consider myself a hedonist, it's not a lifestyle, just people drowning away their unhappiness. I'm just an all or nothing kind of person the way I approach life unless I need to be otherwise. Whether it's consumption, corruption, or cracking heads, I get what I want, and I get it all, or I pay the price trying. Probably a good thing I've never been big into gambling with my money :P

    But with life? That's a whole other type of excitement...

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  129. The fire in one's belly also chooses the shoes for the day.





    Irishman can wear pink, yet Italian have better bodies to fit a well cut shirt.

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  130. Notme,

    yeah, I realized I screwed up with the names. Didn't recall which other names Sceli mentioned as hers (other than virtual sis) and I was on the way out. So...

    Forgive me, deer? *s*


    Notable,

    "It's not a state of thinking you're the best, it's a state of inevitably becoming the best (or pretty fucking good in your own right)"

    In my heart I always believe I am the best. Even as I aim for more, I do this because I am the best and therefore must always strive to perfect my 'bestness'. *s*

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