Sunday, November 21, 2010

Love and other drugs

Watching these types of movies is the gateway drug to dating a sociopath because once this becomes something you want, reality will never again be good enough.

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  1. Interesting. I enjoyed the trailer. Has anyone seen this film, and if so, comments?

    From the limited context of the trailer, I can see exactly what you're talking about, M.E..

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  2. Yes. Obviously I'm a living, breathing rom-com waiting to happen.~ Luckily, because I'm a nerd, by the laws of romantic comedy I end up in a relationship with free-spirited cardboard box Zooey "Dull Surprise" Deschanel; and whatever my dramatic flaw (read: plot device) is, it gets resolved by the end of the first hour, just in time for me to win her back. Karaoke scene optional.~

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  3. I beg to differ; Karaoke scenes are most definitely mandatory. I refuse to watch a "rom-com" without one.

    From the reviews I've read for this one, it seems that it's one with a "happy ending," and not not the coital kind.

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  4. What? Don't you guys get the dark subliminal undertones here?

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  5. Not really, GagReflex, I only really caught on to the homosexual-pedophiliac overtones, but I could be mistaken.

    Words cannot express my feelings for you, PS, but this can.

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  6. I don't really see anything abnormal with this plot. I see two people as products of their environment being able to spend some time together despite. That's a positive, right?

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  7. It's the brazen use of inner, logical dialog in relation to something seen classically as an emotionally driven act, and the fact that the two know it, play it regularly, and are intrigued with each other because of it.

    Not typical rom-com dialog for a trailer. Very typical rom-com story, though.

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  8. Oh, no one, you know just what to say.~ And you even found a singalong version. Clearly we're meant to be.

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  9. products of their environment

    Touche,...I think

    btw, I clicked on your link for PS and acquired a new emotional scar and expect no sympathy as i was asking for trouble.

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  10. Gag, did you gag?`



    (i can't do official squiggly so that's my version.)

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  11. How can you do ` if you can't do ~? They're the same key. Just hold shift.

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  12. Looks good to me, notme..

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  13. You were scarred by the cop getting shot by the Vietnam vet, or 3 guys 1 hammer.

    I'd throw you a bone for 3 guys 1 hammer. I'm sure that would disturb the average joe.

    The cop video was pretty funny. I was rolling most of the way through it. Deputy Dipshit got what he deserved.

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  14. notme is simply exerting their anti-establishment worldview.

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  15. by no one's for link for PS at: 21, 2010 11:01 AM

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  16. lol no one.

    no seriously, maybe cos my keyboard is foreign. i've got four characters on that one key, and i don't know how to access the squiggly one. i can only do

    ` and ¬

    on that key. is there something else i should be pressing to get squiggly? i'm crap with technology.

    notable: i only saw 3 hammers one man!` hehe, not the cop one.

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  17. notme: Irish or UK layout?

    Either way, it looks like you should have a # key on the far right, and hitting shift should give you a ~.

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    ok people. that's what i had to do till i hit the jackpot. yay mofos!

    my laptop's from the middle east. so it's got letters all over the shop and without the correct corresponding character.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ celebrate good times oh yeah! it's the one under the main backspace key in case you were interested.~ thought not.

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  19. I'm glad it touched you as much as it touched me, GagReflex.

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  20. Let's be honest.

    These characters, based solely on the trailer, started out interesting but soon adapted the cliche mold of every romantic comedy.

    Kids, this is why we can't have nice things.

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  21. well thank the lord i live in the UK, but my dad is from Syria. he got me the laptop. bless his little narcy cotton socks. he's currently on a mission to suck the soul out of my eldest brother, telling him to get married and make babies and shit like that. i advised my brother to tell him to go shove himself.

    seriously though, my brother's too responsible and a people-pleaser. he needs to visit this blog.

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  22. I can guarantee you that most of the people here are relatively responsible and are excellent people-pleasers in real life.

    Your brother will instead need to look for help usurping the system elsewhere.

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  23. Hollywood did it to me again ~ I thought the tears and heartfelt moments were definitely original. Damn the focus groups!

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  24. 'I can guarantee you that most of the people here are relatively responsible and are excellent people-pleasers in real life.'

    i just mean that he admitted to me that he never asks himself what he wants, it's always what others want. i don't necessarily believe that's always the case, but he still seems torn as a person.

    i live in black and white, he lives in grey. that's the difference. both have their downsides.

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  25. getting married and making babies = sucked soul?

    Could it be...someone who already feels empty may need to do responsible stuff like that to feel some sense of soul?

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  26. NOooooeeessss!!!!!!!!!

    They made a movie about Mr. M.E. ... the terror, the unconsciousness, the romance?!...

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  27. Gagreflex

    he's got a girlfriend and says he's happy. there's nothing wrong in marriage and babies if people want it, but my brother felt pressured, hence my reaction. and truth is, he is angry just in general about my parents at the moment.

    sucked soul - hyperbole.

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  28. GagReflex, I believe you've been designated "Advice-giver of the day." Enjoy.

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  29. Now that sucks! Dunno, but it just feels to me someone here is trying to fill something that they perceive is lacking. Then again, thats my usual reaction whenever I sense forced expectations.

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  30. are you saying i am perceiving the situation wrong? my brother came to me, all moany and stuff. i just said what i ALWAYS say to people, 'do what the hell YOU want...oh, and get to know yourself so you KNOW what you want.' pretty simple.

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  31. Gagreflex,

    i get you. you may be right. he should get married, for one, it would get the parents off his back a little.~

    i'm getting outta here. :)

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  32. Argh! no one, I have the dreadlocks..

    notme; notyou no one in particular I'm inferring, but with your last comment, I sense a degree of vicarious expectations all round which to me = a need to fill something lacking in oneself. But then again it could also be geniune care and concern depending on whose perpective.

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  33. I finally ran into a aspie. I was wondering what the fuck was up with these blokes now I know. My friend and three other guys have to guard this guy or he will tear everything and everyone to shreds. The parents are loaded and I think the government helps pay for these guys to watch him.
    They call him the exorcist kid. His retarded parents taught him martial arts so he could defend himself. Of course now he's using it on his parents and the staff do they had to hire people who can take him without hurting him. My friend is over three hundred pounds. This fucking kid is like 140-150. It takes him and two other staff members to supervise him. Amazing. I didn't know aspies had superhuman strength.

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  34. How long can you keep up the play?
    Keep the boredom from setting in?
    What's lasting ingredient?
    I doubt this is something any of you have an answer to.

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  35. PS; loved the theme song Notme, be back after my stomach settle's.
    Too much sugar.

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  36. aspergers types are not usually known for strength/coordination and physical abilities etc, but more for abnormally focused interests and good looks

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  37. How long can you keep up the play?
    Keep the boredom from setting in?
    What's lasting ingredient?
    I doubt this is something any of you have an answer to.



    Personality, maybe?

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  38. Good looks? You thought you'd throw that in eh? This guy looks like a total muppet. I don't believe you for a second. I read they are clumsy, but from the video my mate took he doesn't look clumsy. I do know he is diagnosed as a aspie though.

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  39. Ukan, are you characterizations intended for your upcoming comic book series featuring aspies and psychos? This would interest me greatly.

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  40. They are usually not physically gifted nor particularly aggressive. Though some display weird styles of dancing. Maybe he is unusual. Maybe the diagnosis is off or there is some comorbidity.

    Are you using some sort of recreational drug UKan?

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  41. Did you know doctors in the UK will diagnose children when there's nothing wrong with them if it seems believable enough, and the parents want them to? You probably shouldn't believe it until you see evidence.

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  42. Possibly another case of wealthy parents incapable of rearing their own children, resulting in an uncontrollable child, thereby causing said parents to look for excuses through medical diagnostics for poor parenting.

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  43. I don't think so. My friend is a total knob and doesn't make up psychological terms to throw on website comment sections so he can sound smart(unlike most people here). I'm sure the kids parents, and medical staff are pretty qualified to diagnose a patient. I don't think any of you are even qualified to make a paper airplane.
    He had a meltdown due to something bad happening to him. I don't want to go into details on what the something is, but it wasn't pleasant.
    I did see exorcist kid. Do you think I just came in here to throw loose gossip. He is something special and I thought to share it since some of you are interested in a new pathology a week, though I know everyone is Borderline this week right? I was late with the aspie.

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  44. Idiot. Those parents and the government spend thousands of dollars on this kid's well being. In my country we take care of our sick. We don't empty them onto the streets (skidrow). Some of you are so stuck on yourselves being right by contradicting everyone you fall on your face like a aspie on a greased floor.

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  45. Aw, don't get your panties in a bunch, Ukan. I still love you <3

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  46. It's "Don't get your knickers in a twist", you hamburger eating american.
    It's annoying when almost everyone on here is a total imbecile and you can't tell a story without every amature psychologist trying to make a diagnosis. You people have no clue what you are talking about a majority of the time.

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  47. that's rubbish. sorry, 'garbage.'~

    i live in the UK and my huge resentment towards so-called medical professionals is that i never received a single diagnosis or invitation for an interview to find a potential diagnosis for any of my problems. i was overlooked, in brief.
    so, in my case, i'm sick of the whole thing. 'experts?' yeah right. useless.

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  48. ...Alright, calm down.
    Yes, doctors are 'qualified', doesn't mean they won't diagnose something they know isn't true, though, does it?
    Nobody said you were wrong anyway. It was speculation.
    Good god.

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  49. i was addressing anon 4.52 btw.

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  50. I was being sincere, too. You break my heart Ukan :'(

    I'm interested in reading more of your thoughts, though, if the majority of the commentary here is off-base. Please go on with your story.

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  51. Well, it is true. My boyfriend went to the doctor and he said:
    "Well, your son is just what I like to call eccentric. He thinks as I and my collegues do. But if you're worried, I can conceivably say he has (forgotten the name, that hyperactive thing) and give him drugs for it..."

    My friend was diagnosed with autism. She didn't have a single symptom.

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  52. Oh, and I also live in the uk.

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  53. No anon, they are QUALIFIED not 'qualified'. It's what happends when you go to school and finish. You get the quotes removed. You were 'guessing' now you look 'retarded'.

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  54. What part of UK? England?

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  55. I'm also very tired, so I'm not sure why I put the quote marks in. Thanks for correcting me. You'll notice I'm not flying into a fit of rage about it? You should try that.

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  56. And yes, England.

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  57. I wonder if Xanax would have any affect on Ukan, being a psychopath and all. Experts say that high blood pressure is bad for you.

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  58. Fucking brit. I'm not in a rage this is how I talk. I don't have a saucy english accent like you.

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  59. 'Saucy'? I don't think so, lol.

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  60. Goodnight, poppet.

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  61. Sound like he might be a borderline

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  62. aspergers types are not usually known for strength/coordination and physical abilities etc, but more for abnormally focused interests and good looks

    aspie, you are truly the bees knees.

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  63. thanks Pythias, you are very nice

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  64. This website about Apsergers had me rolling.

    They've got demonic possession on there and everything. Classic.

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  65. This site's possesed. Everytime UKan appears, I hear Hip Hop music.

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  66. aspie, do you happen to suffer from flapping hands?

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  67. That was my favorite part of that whole link. :D

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  68. This is surely a sign that we ought to have babies together, PS.

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  69. Gagreflex @ 1.21

    'notme; notyou no one in particular I'm inferring, but with your last comment, I sense a degree of vicarious expectations all round which to me = a need to fill something lacking in oneself. But then again it could also be geniune care and concern depending on whose perpective.'

    sorry, i had to run off before.
    no, it's genuine caring, it's my brother and i'm not really in awe of how my parents do things, that's all.
    but i do see where you're coming from with the vicarious stuff, it just doesn't apply much to me, unless i'm in severe denial, which is always a possibility. i'll go book a session with Freud.~

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  70. fapping hands?

    i'm gonna check it out.

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  71. No. Do you happen to suffer from murdering?


    Ain't no half steppin

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  72. notme, is this your way of telling us that you're going to kill yourself?

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  73. oh you, you'd like that wouldn't you?
    :(

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  74. of course not; who else would be able to succeed the Littlest Hobo theme song?

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  75. well, no one of course.~

    get it, get it?

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  76. i would like to resurrect an overlooked moment of comedy highlighted by Mr Notable the other day. To quote Medusa:

    'Finally, someone with sense (notme)'

    you're welcome TNP, it was a travesty that no one gave you a lol for that.

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  77. oh, notme, you're after my heart, you are.

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  78. i'm after everyone's heart. i'm the great Predator of Love!

    I shall destroy until eternity.

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  79. notme, you sure make people fall in love with you, sweetheart.
    I'm just curious why you felt a need for "a single diagnosis or invitation for an interview to find a potential diagnosis" for any of your problems. For the benefit of the newcomers here would you mind citing what exactly are your problems other than charming the hell out of people?
    What do you want the experts to do for you that you can't do on your own?

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  80. I knew an Aspie with flapping hands. It was really funny. He'd bob his head, too and had huge high-power glasses. He'd make the funniest faces. Was quite intelligent, but definitely in his own world.

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  81. based on these observations in correlation to the expert opinions from that site, this aspie is clearly an impostor.

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  82. Well, the website offered some alternative diagnoses. Demonic possession, anyone?

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  83. oh i hate you anon, you make me quake in my little boots with your inquisition.~

    charm is my middle name, otherwise known as my HPD/BPD. (god i'm such a show-off). I moaned about it like a child just the other day on here. are you a different anon to the one i spoke with before?

    so yes, had i heard of a 'personality disorder' five years ago (from a self-professed expert) i would have researched it like a fiend back then. or perhaps not. who knows? it's one of those, 'well, if only i had known...' things.
    i won't go into more detail though, but the point is, it was overlooked on more than one, two, three, four occasions. someone with a pd is oblivious, that's the nature of it.

    i know you're gonna probably chastise me for even bringing up labels, but you DID ask.

    i can do it my own...i'm a lone ranger, now that i actually know.

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  84. i realised i didn't actually answer your question there anon.

    oh well... ;)

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  85. not only are there goths and angry Europeans on this blog, but demons?

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  86. aspie is an indigo child. (what is that?)

    anon - to be succinct, i went cos i had a constant ebbing and flowing dysthymia. relationship issues brought it out.
    i had a particularly bad time and needed anxiety relief but they didn't give me any. anyway, that passed. but i still have dysthymia.

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  87. aspie's my favorite person tonight- keeping me clicking links instead of preparing this presentation I'm supposed to already have done.

    sociopathworld >> work right now

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  88. I've been a busy little bee, catching up on Dexter, Boardwalk Empire and The Walking Dead.

    The Grateful Dead was definitely a nice change in pace, though. Thanks, aspie.

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  89. I've recently watched all the Dexters through last season. Now I'm waiting until this season ends to watch it because I never like a show as much when I have to wait for each episode. It is definitely cute.

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  90. I really like this season. A lot less family drama and a lot more killing/introspection.

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  91. Nice. I like the interplay with psychopath x each season- Ice Truck Killer, Lila, Jimmy Smits, John Lithgow.

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  92. Oh, you're in for a hell of a treat, then.

    I'm not much for serial killers in general. I like Dexter, though.

    Brandon Sanderson recommended an author named David Wells who wrote a book called "I am Not a Serial Killer". It was pretty damn good. A lot of the dialog was sociopathic dialog, not too much of the serial killer tangent stuff, so I enjoyed it. Almost creepy, really; if the author isn't a 'path, he sure knows what goes on under the hood, inner dialog-wise.

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  93. I'll look into that. Also, I like your use of "under the hood" there.

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  94. Quite.

    There's also quite a bit of black humor that I think most people would either miss, or not find funny at all. I don't think I've run into that with a book before, and found that rather charming.

    The author is apparently obsessed with Serial Killers in real life, and Brandon Sanderson basically forced him to write a book about it because he was tired about hearing him talk about such all the time.

    I think the obsession is probably linked more to his possible sociopathy, and seeing that quite a few serial killers are sociopaths, the connection is certainly logical. I guess that's what I like about Dexter, the similar viewpoint on life.

    If David Wells isn't a sociopath, he knows more than he should.

    *cue dramatic foreshadowing music*

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  95. Watching these types of movies is the gateway drug to dating a sociopath because once this becomes something you want, reality will never again be good enough.


    Very true.

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  96. From mpth to notme: Thank you for trying to answer my question. I was indeed interested in hearing more specific symptoms to see if I'm similar, to learn more about myself. You mentioned dysthymia, that translates as persistent mild depression. You said nothing as to how that manifests. Uninterested in doing things? Sad? (I can tell you are slightly mad about it, but that's it). I read Lyncoln's Melancholy (what they called depression then) and learned that he drove his wife insane in the process because he was withdrawn, of course. So yes, you'll either dump the poor guys quickly or drive them to insanity if you stay long in the relationship. If you had an outlet where you have amazing levels of passion and the guys can have their own high level of focus elsewhere you could have a long term relationship, otherwise forget it. You are an empath and you'll release them early. Your writing clearly suggests you're gifted. What are you doing with your gifts, other than making people fall in love with you? Do you feel you're underachieving steadily, and that is actually internal sabotage?

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  97. notme:

    There are more than a few anons running around. I'm a bit late, but I assure you that was not the same anon you were talking with earlier.

    The resident socios pretend to get angry at me for not creating an "identity" for myself so they can track me, and I pretend to listen. As such, they pretend to believe that I am the newcomer who's finally created a name for myself, and I pretend I am them.

    Sadly, I will always be mixed with the anons.

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  98. to anon 6.54

    dysthymia - for me, it's just constant under-stimulation, chronic boredom/restlessness. so i remedy it in what some would consider unhealthy ways. then i can get over-stimulated pretty easily, pretty hyper. i go from extremes. when i am having fun, i hate to stop.

    sadness sometimes, but mainly i'd say i feel strange, like everything's surreal. a mild form of dissociation i think, which i've had for years, with a brief, wonderful break recently.

    as for my relationships, you hit the nail on the head.

    thanks, though i don't know what makes you think i'm gifted. i have limited concept of how people see me, partly cos my opinion of myself changes with my moods. i know, fun.~

    'Do you feel you're underachieving steadily, and that is actually internal sabotage?'

    it's hard not to 'underachieve' when you deal with life a day at a time. i am obsessive, going from one obsession to the next. my plans don't stick. i have a new dream every so often. my family just roll their eyes. lol.
    i was a very good student, went to uni, but i didn't sustain that work ethic after i finished. i had other things on my mind.

    'internal sobotage.' no and yes. i was a naive child, so i've grown through my struggles and my taking time-out from intense self-control.

    it is sabotage if you aren't utilising what you are naturally good at. so, i'm guilty of that. life is about priorities, and things get in the way of your plans. and that's usually when you learn the best lessons that are most relevant to yourself.

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  99. anon 12.12

    yes, thanks for the clarification. :)

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  100. mpth to notme (again)... thank you, you did answer a lot of what I was asking. You are definitely gifted in that your language assumes the freshness and honesty of a child yet you say very brainy and correct stuff. Innocence and intelligence combined are both an amazing gift and a huge aphrodisiac. I firmly believe that if you actually figured out what is one thing that really turns you on and assigns a level of meaning that you consciously or unconsciously expect from life the shit is totally gonna pour out of you and you'll be completely obsessed with that and there will come a product that just blows people's minds. I truly, truly believe that. If I were to recommend anything to you, I'd say sign up for an Improv Comedy class, the Harold style. WIth your truth telling you'll do wonders but more importantly you'll learn the fun and value of writing on the spot. You can do an amazing job, I wish I was there to watch. Also, I'd say go to the Paris Review web site and start reading the Interviews of the authors you liked or you hated. See what these guys are saying.. WIth your level of self-understanding, innocence, and articulation an amazing writer is screaming to come out. (mpth as in empath without the wovels)

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  101. mpth to notme... (first see 2:30) Just a touch more than above. There is a good chance that you are a very very high functioning level Aspie who is learning to truly let go of early controlled environment and letting her creative juices roll for a while. Particularly the dissociation is when you recognized that analyzing yourself is a good thing for you are gifted to look deeply into yourself and others. That is how writers work as well. New research suggests a lot of nature as opposed to nurture. meaning all the shit that came from parents may have come through the genes as opposed to their way of behaving around you. if you assume that to be the case what's gonna happen is that you'll see their inner child, their helplessness in who they are and stop being mad at them, and in turn stop being mad at you. you'll love them and self more and that'll send a lot of clouds away. you'll ease into a less-than-perfect world, soften up, and stop sucking your energy with concerns of relationship within the family but see the humor and learning in them as an analyst or a writer. don't try to solve their problems while you are working on yours, you focus on yourself. constantly identify what makes you happy, what you can create, and only focus on those and don't let sad thoughts interfere. improve your own suggestibility (may help to study some self-hypnosis) and literally take yourself on in a very dissociative but very enjoyable form. This is exactly what you are doing, so all you need to do is stop the guilt and keep doing it with smiles. are you following me?.

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  102. hi mpth

    it's interesting to learn that parts of me seem to seep out when i post here. you are quite perceptive, or i am quite transparent! it's weird you mention aspergers. for a long time i thought i had some autistic streak in me, even though i'm not familiar with what it really entails. i took an online test and i came out low. so, i was a little relieved only cos it's one less thing to worry about. lol.

    but i think there's some possibility to what you suggest, though i don't know enough about it. all i know is that i have always been obsessively analytical about my world, and i never accept things without question. i need to understand what it is i am expected to believe, to deconstruct everything. only then can i move on. i was like that for years, but the truth is, i'm pretty happy with the place i'm at in my head now. it's like I became a blank slate and from that, I build myself up anew. is that possible? i think it is.

    my mother is almost sixty and she is still trying to 'find herself.' i told her, 'darling, there's nothing to find, stop digging.'~ for me, it's more about shedding the extra stuff that doesn't assist our nature, not about an endless search for meaning and self-betterment. but like i said, maybe i'm the crazy, simple, deluded one, i wouldn't doubt it. lol. and i'm fine with being proven wrong.

    i do write actually, i've done so since i was fifteen. just observational stuff. i'm in my twenties now and i write poetry sometimes.

    i submitted some of my poetry to the national poetry competition, only to get feedback cos i often can't tell if what is in my mind is insightful, obvious or just plain reductive and innacurate! like i said, i have 'erratic-perception' syndrome.~

    'who is learning to truly let go of early controlled environment and letting her creative juices roll for a while.'

    yep, i'm pretty defiant when i feel my intellectual/instinctive autonomy is threatened.

    as for my parents, i'm pretty separate from them, (not so much my mum). i tend to avoid people who aren't good for me. i'm sensitive so i have limited choice of action. i'm impressionable in a way, (i know it sounds like i'm contradicting myself cos i said i was stubborn too, but it's possible to be both), so I can get sucked into their world, emotionally i mean. so i avoid them. i'm a believer in not making the same mistake more than once, and i know my tendency to do so. so i avoid.

    i am following you, and thank you for your input.

    also, i toyed with the idea of writing/publishing something on some area of human behaviour. i'm too into too many things, it's a little annoying. i'm voracious, in every sense. it shall be the death of me. :)

    i DO have a new mission though, which i won't divulge here. and it's a corker. :) it's no pipe dream either. pretty standard and mundane, but brilliant.

    i'm tired. I hope i've responded appropriately.

    do you mind me asking what brought you to this site?

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  103. mpth to notme...

    what brought me to this site... the need to understand socios and the reasons for my past style of dealing with them...

    when I read the views of an angry socio I cringe. When I hear them say they don't like people I see an enemy of humanity. Then among the socio came the strong empath, you. I like you. Possibly because I see quite a bit reflection of myself in you and given your age you could be my daughter.

    I'm over double your age and only in the last three years feeling the need to sharpen the saw in understanding a socio (before then simple riddance with no analysis was my choice, but not sufficient for what further I want to do before I die).

    I have come to accepting the fact that a high-performing good girl is not enough, something is amiss. I am typically the life of any party I'm invited to but I cannot say I'm likewise entertained by others. I always go hoping, maybe just maybe I'll get ten minutes of high intelligence and connection. Hardly happens. I'm bored by less gifted (so terrible to say, good thing never had a child). I treat them nice but typically leave parties thinking I could've done so much better by reading a good writer or watching a documentary.

    I'll never stop being good but will definitely learn to be good for the socios as well, as opposed to wanting them changed or lost. Only for selfish reasons. At this age I feel the need to become more selfish and learn to feel no shame around it (learn to drop nonserving feelings and have a blank plate like a socio, like you were saying 180 change).

    I am on idle or in my own world, reading and reading and watching, all about socios. I literally stopped everything and am busy creating a rebirth where I'm gentle and stronger to be able to manipulate the socios (remember the strong empath discussions we had earlier).

    I think it's great to work on poetry (to me the highest literature form, and also the most abstract). Poetry is good for fantasy and bragging whereas comedic writing is achieved with the simplest capture of basic truth (accordingly more therapeutical, and possibly financially more rewarding), so I suggested thinking any young person could use an increase in their personal finances.

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  104. What are you, dating? Christ, and I thought NotAble was the crown prince of ye olde wall o' texte around here.~

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  105. shove it post.~

    mpth is helping me with an apparent breakthrough here.

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  106. Aww, how adorable. Kitten's got claws. Rowr.~

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  107. you better believe it baby.

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  108. mpth.

    you have very kindly given me food for thought. i will get back to you on your last comment once i've done some processing.

    :)

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  109. from mpth... to postmodern sociopath

    I'm quite a cougar and that picture you chose has been turning me on. who the hell is he?

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  110. well, one didn't need to be a cougar for that one. don't know the term for people who like to kiss the dead. thank you for the introduction.

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  111. Post: not sure what you'd like me to say to that one.

    Notme: check these out:


    Dr. Tony Attwood says:

    From my clinical experience I consider that children and adults with Aspergers Syndrome have a different, not defective, way of thinking.

    1. The person usually has a strong desire to seek knowledge, truth and perfection with a different set of priorities than would be expected with other people. There is also a different perception of situations and sensory experiences. The overriding priority may be to solve a problem rather than satisfy the social or emotional needs of others.

    2. The person values being creative rather than co-operative.

    3. The person with Aspergers syndrome may perceive errors that are not apparent to others, giving considerable attention to detail, rather than noticing the “big picture”.

    4. The person is usually renowned for being direct, speaking their mind and being honest and determined and having a strong sense of social justice.

    5. The person may actively seek and enjoy solitude, be a loyal friend and have a distinct sense of humour.

    6. However, the person with Aspergers Syndrome can have difficulty with the management and expression of emotions.

    7. Children and adults with Aspergers syndrome may have levels of anxiety, sadness or anger that indicate a secondary mood disorder. There may also be problems expressing the degree of love and affection expected by others.

    Asperger types: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v,


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLQ1C5k1dN4&NR=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZjNmx6U6cc&feature=related

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  112. I posted something with youtube links and it got deleted quickly after. what's up with that?

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  113. notme: this is for you

    Dr. Tony Attwood says:

    From my clinical experience I consider that children and adults with Aspergers Syndrome have a different, not defective, way of thinking.

    1. The person usually has a strong desire to seek knowledge, truth and perfection with a different set of priorities than would be expected with other people. There is also a different perception of situations and sensory experiences. The overriding priority may be to solve a problem rather than satisfy the social or emotional needs of others.

    2. The person values being creative rather than co-operative.

    3. The person with Aspergers syndrome may perceive errors that are not apparent to others, giving considerable attention to detail, rather than noticing the “big picture”.

    4. The person is usually renowned for being direct, speaking their mind and being honest and determined and having a strong sense of social justice.

    5. The person may actively seek and enjoy solitude, be a loyal friend and have a distinct sense of humour.

    6. However, the person with Aspergers Syndrome can have difficulty with the management and expression of emotions.

    7. Children and adults with Aspergers syndrome may have levels of anxiety, sadness or anger that indicate a secondary mood disorder. There may also be problems expressing the degree of love and affection expected by others.

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  114. post.. not having met a cougar... do you mean you never approached a woman who happened to be ten + years older than you? or you have some other definition of what a cougar is.

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  115. I mean "cougar" in the sense of a woman who actively seeks out significantly younger men.

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  116. well, I'm not a cougar then. I don't seek, I choose from the set of seekers.

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  117. I will be honest, I used that term because I was upset that you were interfering with my interaction with notme and was curious if I could take you in another direction. And I could. So, no more. But, I really do like that picture and want to learn more about him.

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  118. mpth. i am all seven of those. this is bizarre. how did you know!?!
    what do i do with this information?

    looking back on my life and the difficulties i've had, it seems to make sense. i also just googled aspergers and skimmed through some info. I am certainly lacking in some of the traits, but the ones you've pointed out here are all me.

    it's a little bit scary, i've already got some labels under my belt, but i've never had a proper, thorough analysis. i just assumed BPD/HPD was the answer, which obviously is not far-fetched either given my relationship problems.

    like i said, should i do anything with this info? get a diagnosis or just live my life? it's all a little bit weird tbh. i feel like i'm turning into a label junkie...christ.~

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  119. No, here is the deal. For Aspie woman it's a known fact to be misdiagnosed as BPD, get that thing off your list, you are not a BPD. Aspie is a cool thing. I'm in the US and have no idea how UK system works and how all these diagnoses make any difference. I've never been diagnosed professionally, who the hell cares, I know I am an Aspie. Actually here is the bizarre thing, I only realized that yesterday. And you sure fit as well. The number 7 is the differentiating factor. Go to you tube, and search Asperger types. You'll see the differentiations and one of these secondary mood disorders will fit you. MIne is tending to be slightly narcissistic, forgot what that video called that one. I'll go see too.

    It just is good to know that you have a very different and gifted mind. Isn't it? I mean, my energy level is higher since my self-diagnosis for sure.

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  120. Oh, yes. Aspies are just sooo bloody gifted, aren't they?~

    Some of us have the wherewithal to be brilliant and socially viable, thank you.

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  121. note that Aspie woman is a pretty different animal than the male Aspie. Also, I think you (and I) are very high functioning levels of Aspies. And, most definitions won't fit us. But this Dr. Attwood is an expert on Aspie women.

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  122. post... and the anon who likes turtles...

    OK, you guys are cute too. I mean it, did not mean to leave you out.

    I actually have a collection of turtles at home but my reasons for liking them are: they live long, they are flexible in terms of home arrangements, and they can simply pull into their solitude. And, their slow approach is ok too.

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  123. i'll go have a look.

    also, do you think there's a connection with HSP (highly sensitive person). i don't know if you know anything about that but that fits me to a T.

    and post - shove it, again.~ teehee.

    mpth - you've been remarkable today. cheers.

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  124. Autism and Asperger's types, /watch?v=T9Yd8E-IlVw

    There are 8 types. I have none of 1-Spielberg, 3-Powell, 4-Numan, 5-Morisey, 7-Carroll. I'm a mix of 2-Einstein (a lot) and 6. Nicholls (some). What do you think your mix is?

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  125. notme, thank you for sharing your appreciation. Your welcome when we were in strong empath discussion a few days ago had meant a lot to me too.

    I'll check into HSP but Aspie by definition is that, isn't it, by being on the autism spectrum? It's 10:30 pm here, I'm off to bed.

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  126. I like turtles too!

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  127. I like the way my Turtle smells.

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  128. No. You people need too die...this is way too much ignorance for one place.

    And Fuck turtles.

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  129. yeah, i baby-sat some turtles but didn't like touching them much. i had an 'oh they're cute, eww they're weird' attitude. come to think of it, they may have been tortoises. i dunno.

    mbth. I'm 6 and 4 mainly. the extrovert who irritates/amuses and the daydreamer. and a touch of 3 and 5, the agressive and creative.

    no WONDER people think i'm from another planet, and i swear i've said the same thing.

    what a revelation. thank you so much. i'm freaked out right now.

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  130. YouTube can diagnose Asperger's like John Edwards can talk to my dead grandmother.~

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  131. this isn't youtube. this is sociopathworld. and here, anything can happen, right?

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  132. The amount of self-fulfilling prophecy in this thread is just disgusting.

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  133. Thank you!!!
    @ post

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  134. postmodern. why in the name of god would this be a self-fulfilling prophecy? you don't know me or my life, or how i think about things and come to an evaluation on things, right?

    why would i like to be called an aspie, seeing as you're making fun of them?

    it's called clarity, that's all.

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  135. what is your (collective) problem?

    are you that bored you wanna pick holes? fine, be my guest, i'm bored too...

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  136. "I have normal social problems, common to all human beings, and am vaguely intelligent."

    "You might have Asperger's."

    "Oh, no. That doesn't sound like me."

    "Oh, it's not bad. Aspies are special little snowflakes. Every major innovation in every field was made by an Aspie. We have no details to support any of our claims."

    "Oh, I must have Asperger's then. Yay!"

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  137. hehe..I like where this is going.

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  138. I WAS NOT LOOKING for anything. this woman spotted something in the way i write and express myself. I repeat, I was not searching for anything here. if i were, i wouldn't be on sociopathworld cos i sure as heck know that i'm not a sociopath (as appealing as that is).

    no, i would be on some other site, perhaps on BPD, or 'freaks anonymous' or anything like that. i have reiterated before that i was not in search of anything.
    the lady made an observation and it happened to be bang on.

    post - how sweet of you to consider me vaguely intelligent. i'm charmed.

    'oh no, that doesn't sound like me' - i never said that.

    "Oh, it's not bad. Aspies are special little snowflakes. Every major innovation in every field was made by an Aspie. We have no details to support any of our claims.' - she never said that.

    i love your bullcrap. in all my visits here, that's the first pile of crap i've witnessed from you postmodern twerp. congrats.~

    i still like you though. mwah

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  139. Yes... more. I feed on your impotent rage. It sustains me.~

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  140. John Edwards spoke to my dead turtle. So there!

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  141. Don't make fun of Turtles.

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  142. yes, i aim to please postmodern.

    so what's your analysis doctor?

    dare i even ask?

    out of interest, how many of the seven on that list would you say apply to you?

    also, i'm not a total idiot, i take everything with a pinch of salt, and thank you once again, with your infinite cynicism/wisdom, for reminding me to step back and be rational. (sarcasm undecided).

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  143. I have no analysis. I have no useful data, and therefore no opinion on your mental state.

    Just reminding you that if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

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  144. Postmodern and notme sitting in a tree.

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  145. well, i think that sometimes a handy explanation appeals to my mood. current mood - yes i'll take that thank you.

    perhaps tomorrow i'll think no more of it.
    it's just interesting.
    so are you against all labels? is that it?
    why do you call yourself 'postmdern sociopath' then?

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  146. i forgot the 'o' in postmodern.

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  147. oh postmodern, you've gone ever so quiet. i wonder why?~

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  148. It has a ring to it, I suppose.~

    I call myself Postmodern Sociopath for the same reason you call yourself notme. I didn't want to post anonymously, anymore, so I pushed two words together and went from there.

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  149. I have neither the time nor the inclination to hit F5 obsessively. I hadn't seen your comment until a moment before I wrote mine. :P

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  150. what's your fundamental objection to what has happened here today?
    i mean, aside from the obvious weakness of a diagnosis over the web.

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  151. What makes you think I object to anything? I just like to ruffle your feathers, doll.

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  152. i fell for it. c ya post. sleepy time.

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  153. I hope you guys get married and have lots of baby Turtles.

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  154. Summary:

    blah blah blah righteous indignation blah blah blah apathy blah blah blah

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  155. Oh, no one... you could summarize my very soul. <3

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  156. oh postmodern. you don't have a soul. get over it.~

    it just so happens that what was talked about here today was personal to me. hence my brief frustration with you goading me.

    i don't expect you to understand. but considering how generous i am in trying to understand the likes of you, it would be nice if you would extend the same courtesy to me.

    if this invites more trolling, peace out.

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  157. I do understand you, dear notme. Very well. I just like to pull things apart and get a good look at their internals. Like a watch or a car, no?

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  158. and i bet everything you saw was as predicted? oh i feel so naked. how could you do this to me posti?~

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  159. Well, that would be downright hubristic of me, notme. Did I tweak your delicate little cogs?~

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  160. a little. but then it's not hard.
    certain things get me going, like when i'm on a high and someone tries to pull me right down.
    or when i'm sincere and someone says i'm lying.
    go write these things down, they'll come in handy i'm sure.

    what makes you angry, besides bad grammar?~

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  161. People who would rather be wrong than corrected, mostly. I've never understood that. No matter how factual and dispassionate I am when I tell them they're wrong, they tend to just get pissy, as if I'm calling them stupid. I suppose I just dislike people who are stuck in their ways, unwilling to accept change or new data.

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  162. i agree. i think what it is in part is that people's emotions and loyalty to a state of mind overrules new data. then, once the indignation subsides, they (if they are half-way rational) start to think about it and hopefully assimilate it.
    emotion can obstruct the acceptance of new information. How that happens and why, is more complex. creatures of habit indeed.

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  164. Agreed. I think the main problem in my case is that my normal tone of voice sounds dismissive to many people, even when I have no such intent. A misfortune in diction, I suppose. I've tried to alter it, but as I can't detect the problem, I have nothing to work with.

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  165. i have my own problems. i feel like i sometimes sound patronising when i talk to people. like i'm stating the obvious so they shouldn't even need to ask. occasionally i get openly frustrated. but it depends who i'm addressing as well. i can also be a good teacher, very patient. my moods dictate it, and who i'm talking to too. also, people confuse my sincerity for sarcasm and vice versa. its endless and somewhat hopeless. lol

    do people say you sound dismissive, or is it just your feeling?

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  166. I've been told, a number of times. My penchant for sarcasm (and snarkasm, especially) probably doesn't help matters.

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  167. ah well, c'est la vie.

    so you can imitate facial expressions but not so much tone of voice.

    sarcasm is a great time and energy saver. cuts to the chase. and yes, dismissive as hell.

    i bet you feel like you are talking to four year olds sometimes.

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  168. I'm actually a rather gifted vocal mimic, as well. I just don't know what about my natural voice conveys dismissal.

    I prefer talking to four year olds. They have an excuse for being wrong, at least.

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  169. ah my friend, i can't help you there. my voice is naturally like honey and music.~

    just find yourself a girl who likes being put in her place, all the time. sorted.~

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  170. from mpth... Good morning, children. I mean, what the heck went on after I went to bed. You guys, funny. Based on what I read all I could say is that post could have been a middle child, someone who grew up feeling neglected. Why would he need to come after notme like that, had it not been for envy? On the spectrum he is trying to accept himself as is with no questioning, so feels threatened when he sees two women busy getting to certain levels of clarification. That's ok, that's your choice, but why are you trying to get in the middle of a discussion where nobody invited you? If you want to be a part of something, work on your 'yes, and' game. You could say no and teach something but you need to actually have something to teach, in thsi particular case you didn't. So, behave child.

    notme: see how you corrected your own spelling mistake above, to the point that you chose to send another note. That's what you stop learning as you get older, because some asshole socio tells you you're anal. By the way, for people like us all else are socio because we went too far to the other end. It's interesting you don't see your number 2 (I think that's the one dealing with correct spelling and sorts). With what you saw in your mix and with your inability to see yourself as Einstein you are clearly not like me in your mood issues, but I know someone who is. She actually transferred to a socio like life style much sooner than I did. I mean, I'm learning now, she was a master by 25. You may be heading that way, don't know. Her husband killed himself. Till now I never connected any potential causalty there but given how Lyncoln drew his wife insane, she may really have pushed him into that hole. She was way more smart than him, but never managed to see her Einstein and worried about serving the interests of the society, or seeking a higher meaning in what she does. She chose to indulge in pathological lies all her life, and became steadily worse after his death. She went for gambling, slept with a married man and then told his wife.

    Oh, well. I wish you channel very positively for yourself. This is a choice you will make. Do you have a strong motivation to be good to people by assuming a position that serves the society?

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  171. I'm a firstborn child. I didn't "need" to "go after" notme. I thought it would be interesting to prod for a reaction, and so I did.

    Welcome to the internet. You don't run the show.<3

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  172. Turtles don't run.

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  173. Ms. Aspie wannabee is almost as nauseating as Momma Morality.

    Not to knock your diagnosis, notme, but unlike ASPD, Aspergers is something you can safely approach a physician for in regards to diagnosis. Your name doesn't on on the list of "Life sentence if incarcerated," or any other psychologist's shit list.

    Best of luck, not me.

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  174. oh double shit! i just wrote a long-ass reply to you mpth and it hasn't posted.

    why does god hate me? argh.

    hang in there, i'll rehash it all up.

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  175. thanks TNP.

    I will obviously go to a professional.

    but don't be so disparaging of mpth, she's been very helpful and she's a smart cookie.

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  176. from mpth.

    notme, I don't like clutter or noise. I am not sure why these people are following our interaction. Do you know? I mean, why did they not move on to Monday/Tuesday and leave Sunday alone?

    I don't wish to share anything with them, and my natural reaction would be to ask you we take this to email, but the new trying me really wants to learn to operate around noise. So I shall not hide out from the noise (some socio some not), and go ahead and read it too, but will not relate to them anymore until I learn something from what they wrote.

    Sorry you missed what you wrote, I almost did the same yesterday and I never liked trying to recapture what I said earlier.

    Sometimes I feel so disoriented in my metamorphosis attempt. I'm sure Hemingway checked out because he just did not want to bother and never learned to see the beauty of life in little stuff. I'm good at loving little things, one piece of green leaf could get me going.

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  177. This Aspie diagnosis is extremely ridiculous and coming out of thin internet air.

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  178. from mpth...

    no one, you actually took the time to find a running turtle, lol. Why? Did you already knew about that video or you actually googled or something? So refreshing.

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  179. medusa... I'm all ears why you think it is thin air. Can you be more specific?

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  180. Anon, it sounds like you are trying to manipulate notme into a specific personality for some bizarre self-serving reasons, based off of the very little information provided by text here.

    Perhaps you want to be some sort of expert? Mother figure? Pretend mentor? Cult leader? It's very strange that you are so obsessed with your fantasy version of a stranger who has only been posting here for a short while.

    Plus, so many of the things notme said about herself contradicts an Asperger's diagnosis. Not to mention her low autism spectrum test score.

    And why force her into some sorta whatever? Why not just let her be and become whatever it is she will or wants to become instead of you having such a desire to guide her into some sort of idea of yours when I never saw her ask for such quasi-insight or advice?

    I'm not trying to purposefully disparage you, anon, so you don't have to take it that way, it just seems so obvious to me that you have some sort of weird projection issue.

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  181. WTF I just wrote out this long thing and it got deleted.

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  182. to mpth

    'I'm good at loving little things, one piece of green leaf could get me going.'
    ditto. i revel in the small things too.

    don't mind the 'noise,' it'll die down. it's a topic that interests us and they probably don't know how to be a part of it, so they don't like it. hehe.

    i find it irritating and humorous at the same time. no need to go to e-mail just yet. this is a forum for anyone. we can all learn something, even vicariously.

    like i said, i want to re-write my post but i need some food first. i'm whacked out.

    Medusa.
    Has my brain and ability to assess the relevance of information come out of thin air too? was i born yesterday? no. a couple of decades ago more like.

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  183. medusa, that happened to my long post too.

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  184. From mpth to The Notable Path.. You touched two issues, momma morality and that I'm not running the show. And, you belong to a very large percentage of people who'd feel that way about me. Please help me out here. WHat is the source of offense here? I see it in the second one. You are right, I'm not running the show here, and definitely in subtle ways acted as if, especially to you. I apologize. I really do. In my effort to understand the socio what's more important is that I understand what sort of reaction I'm getting from people. I mean if I were the movie director, no body could be mad at me for running the show, but if I'm a participant surely I am not running the show and should stop like acting one. I'll do my best, please poke it into my eye when I do that.

    Morality... How did I falter in that regard? What did I say to suggest that to you?

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  185. Anon, tell me, why are you so obsessed with trying to manipulate notme into a certain personality that you have concocted in your head, except for some kind of bizarre self-serving reason? Especially since she never asked for insight or advise in the first place. Why not just let her become whatever it is she will become and do what she wants to do, instead of trying to fit her in some kind of weird fantasy of yours?

    So many of the things notme has said about herself here contradicts an Asperger's diagnosis. Not to mention her low autism spectrum score. Not to mention you are diagnosing someone who has only been posting for a short while, by whatever you can pick and choose from what little text evidence there is.

    I'm not trying to get nasty with you anon, and it's not my problem if you take it that way, but it seems clear to me that you have some wierd projection and controlling issues.

    So why such an interest in a stranger? Why all the egregious flattery? Perhaps you wish to feel like an expert? A mother figure? A mentor? A cult leader? (Though you seem more like a cult follower....)

    Seems you are still a 'fixer', after all. Didn't work with your sociopaths, so now you are trying a different segment of the population? Or taking it to the internet since you can't figure it out in real life, and it's safer to do here? And notme is easy to manipulate? Seems to me you have controlling issues hidden in all this Einstein crap.

    Mama Morality still trying to get control over sociopathworld, when she can't figure it out in real life.

    Also, you are clearly reading way too much internet crap about Asperger's. Seriously, 8 different Asperger's personality types? Might as well add 2 more so that then we can cover the entire population of the human race.

    notme, this whole converstaion between you two is actually about anon, not you. It's for her purposes, not yours. Do you like being manipulated? It does seem that you are indeed very impressionable.

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