Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Seventeen face of psychopath

In a little bit of a twist on the movie Seven Psychopaths, this post (on a website for victims), gives 17 basic classifications for psychopaths. It's not at all scientific (doesn't really claim to be), but I think it's an interesting exploration of how different sociopaths can appear. Also, there is only 1 of 17 that is a killer (and I think only one other where violence is a predominant trait). You can read the descriptions on the site (some of them are rather lengthy), but here are the categories:

1. THE LIAR/CONTRACT BREAKER

2. THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC "CLIMBER"

3. THE SEXUAL PSYCHOPATH

4. THE EXPLOSIVE PSYCHOPATH

5. THE VIOLENT PSYCHOPATH

6. THE CHARMER, OR "SOUL MATE"

7. THE THIEF OR "COVETOUS PSYCHOPATH"

8. THE QUIET PSYCHOPATH

9. THE BRAINWASHER

10. THE RISK TAKER/THRILLSEEKER

11. THE PARANOID PSYCHOPATH

12. THE 'BAD BOY' OR 'BAD GIRL' ANTISOCIAL PSYCHOPATH

13. THE USED CAR SALESMAN (OR WOMAN)

14. THE MURDERER OR SERIAL KILLER

15. THE MORALIST OR SAINT

16. THE CREATIVE ARTIST

17. THE ACADEMIC PSYCHOPATH

According to this taxonomy, I guess I would be closest to an academic psychopath (somewhat literally). It seems pretty clear that there is overlap between the categories and that one person could show aspects of multiple categories.

Thoughts?

63 comments:

  1. I've worked sales for 4-5 years and made quite a decent pay for someone with no education, and now I'm doing law school.

    I wouldn't like to be called a psychopath though. Please don't call me that. Even if I were, I'd mind.

    But nice list yo.

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    1. Law school requires an undergraduate degree. No education?

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    2. Which I didn't have at the time I was working. Got it?

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    3. Then work and go to school at the same time. That's how other people do it. No time is a lot like an excuse for being lazy. Wah.

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    4. So why do you have contentions with the term "psychopath"?

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    5. Hmm. #2, 3, 4 and 10 all resonate with me. I fit the hypersexual subtype, without pedophilia.

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  2. Anon 12:31 - How about idiot? Is it okay to call you that?

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    1. Whatever floats your boat, Kyle. ;)

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  3. Remember in the film "The Exercist," the psychologically trained
    Dr. Damian Karris attempts to give the seasoned exercist Merrin,
    a rundown of the various personalities that the "posessed" child
    exhabits, and Father Merrin cuts him short? "There is only one," he
    says.
    There are NOT 17 kinds of "sociopaths." There is only one.
    The name of this planet should be called "Planet Insane Asylem,"
    third plant from the Sun.
    The only difference between the average "normal" citizen and the
    babeling nut case, is that the "norm" is a little less out of control
    and can resite his lines better.

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  4. I want to know, what is a paranoid psychopath? Potentially dangerous combination if I guess right. When you see the world through the glasses of a paranoid, then anyone is your enemy, and enemies deserve no empathy. So where does the psychopathy kick into play of a psychopathic paranoid? Would be an interesting story.

    I am especially interested in the answer because I myself have a paranoid personality disorder(diagnosed). To me personally it is more a state of mind that I accidentally slip into and am able to slip out of either by accident or real hard cognitive work.

    Because I am not constantly that way, I am able to recognize the difference between a paranoid period and one that is not. I am also able to look back at a paranoid period when I have slipped out of it and recognize that I was paranoid. When I slip into it, I usually do that unaware of it, and I believe everything I perceive is true. A big challenge with this disorder is to recognize when I am slipping into it and try to avoid it. When I am like this, I will not see the difference between a direct insult and something you just said. It will sound and feel the same way. Usually the person or group that is the target of this sort of reaction is someone I know, or that I have social relations with. If you are just someone, my thoughts never get the chance to construct the worldview that defines my disorder.

    When I see the enemy I have targeted, I lack empathy and urge to defeat them.

    So that were some confessions of a slightly paranoid, I guess wrong blog :p

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  5. That's why the terms sociopath and psychopath are not diagnostic terms. They can refer to a broad range of symptoms and have no clinical value. A similar example would be the term "motor vehicle". Does this refer to a car, truck, minivan, motorcycle or rv? A Lincoln or Kia? Two door or four door?

    These terms used and perpetuated by the media for shock value and are not used in clinical or diagnostic settings. If you don't like the images these words portray and feel the are inaccurate, here's an idea, stop using them.

    MelissaR

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    1. Actually, there is something called Anti-Social Personality Disorder, which is what used to be psychopathy and/or sociopathy.

      Psychopathy and sociopathy was a regularly used term in psychology earlier, and alse has been overdiagnosed in certain geographical areas in history. I remember reading a norwegian article comparing the overdiagnosis of ADHD with the over diagnisis of psychopathy in the early start of the 20th century. Both disorders were assigned to young troubled kids that had problems fitting into society.

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    2. for me, ive never used sociopath and psychopath interchangeably. the two are different in my mind. both are diagnosed with ASPD.
      they do share some similarities. but sociopaths are capable of empathy & emotional connection with others - to specific individuals though - a family member, a friend .. in specific contexts. Psychopaths are incapable of any type of empathy and are unable to form any emotional bonds with anyone. not one.

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    3. Psychopath Checklist Revised? Just because the terms are not the primary nomenclature used in the DSM does not mean they are not used diagnostically or clinically, particularly when you factor in the entire world.

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    4. Yes Some One there is a diagnosis of ASPD. If that's what one means than that's what one should say.

      MelissaR

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    5. Superchick.

      Lack of empathy is one of a list of criteria that could be met for an ASPD diagnosis, meaning out of 9 possible criteria you only need to have a few, so in theory you could be diagnosed with ASPD and still be empathetic. It may be highly unlikely but possible.

      MelissaR

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    6. Under the PCL-R you need a score of 30+ out of 40, from 20 criteria.

      Also, there is recognition from in trying to differentiate between ASPD and Psychopathy, but there is no consensus.

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    7. MelissaR:
      I was almost diagnosed with ASPD. The reason why I was not diagnosed with ASPD is that I stated clearly that I did feel empathy. I just don't always feel it. It is like a state of mind, that you can turn off. I have empathy for people I care about, and my own group. I don't know if my psyciatrist was reluctant to give the diagnose and therefore needed more proof, or if he did the right judgement by demanding empathy to not be present for me to have ASPD. However, I believe I do not have ASPD and that I am an variant of an regular empath, as they call it here. I do not agree that empathy flows in abundance in society in general, and therefore, not having empathy is OK in many situations. After all, we should take a look at history and how nature is mercyless.

      I would like to compare to Thai boxing. In scandinavian culture organized full contact fights among children is seen as child abuse. In Thailand, full contact and very serious kickboxing matches are regularly and openly arranged between children contestors. They beat each other until the stage is all bloody, and this is seen as sports there and not child abuse. I do not believe Thais are less empathic then we are in the western world, but they have different mental attitudes, the explanations might be many, but personally I believe that they grow up generally under harder and different circumstances then many of us here that really have it too easy. This variance in cultures really examplifies how something in human context really is different but still the same.

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    8. Not every sociopath is the same. You can be empathetic or not it all depends on the individual some do feel empathetic towards family and friends. Others feel no empathy at all. Psychopaths have different brain structures which is why they are they way they are at times a sociopaths brains looks different but most of the time it does not.

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  6. No "blue collar" psycho? And a moralist surely must mean "con man-psycho"/"liar", not a real moralist? No person with genuine morals (what traditional mainstream folks mean by "having moral" pf course; satanists and thieves also have morals but these are not seen as such) can possibly be "hollow"..

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  7. After reading all 17 descriptions of a psychopath, which seem valid but very well may not be, it humored me. I would have to say I relate closest to the Academic Psychopath even though I show alot of traits similar to the 'Bad Girl' Psychopath. Still I find that post redundant. Its so many posts the types of Psychopaths and how to classify them and where you're likely to find them etcetera etcetera. Though to me it wouldn't matter if it was posted because Psychopaths are, usually, good at hiding their Psychopathy. Which makes It meaningless to know the types when your, very seldom or, never going to be able to classify them.

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    1. Agreed. It seems like it would be a rare case in which someone could use these descriptions to actually identify a psychopath. The external attributes and behaviors she listed aren't exclusive to psychopaths.

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  8. I need more classification criteria for each type to be able to say how much agree, but based on labels alone it appears I am the lovechild of an Academic, Quiet, Sexual, and Creative Artist. Suppose they all got together, had an orgy, and spilled their juices into some kind of laboratory experiment.

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  9. ^One of the most comprehensive studies that I've found on the disorder, which describes the N (Narcissistic), P (Perfectionist) and A (Aggressive) personality types.

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  10. There is a lot of overlap, and it takes a lot of time and interaction with a sociopath to recognize what's going on. Once you finally figure out what your dealing with you can decide how to proceed.

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    1. If you have already known one sociopath, it is a million times easier to spot the next one.

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    2. What about the ones that pretend to be borderline?? He is numbers 3, 6, 8 and 12. He claims he is an asshole. That much I agree on.

      And yes, I knew there was something wrong with him almost instantly.

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    3. Very good point. "If you have known one sociopath, it is a million times easier to spot the next one." So true, and what a gift to be able to truly see what's going on. ... This time around, you can 'side step' a lot of pain and misery for yourself.

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    4. I agree also. The second time around, it is easier to spot a sociopath, and if you don't let them destroy you, then they can actually be very fun and help you grow. If you are one of their targets (for lack if a better word), then they will tell you or teach you things about yourself that you have avoided all your life.

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    5. "they can actually be very fun and help you grow"
      If you need this type of fun, ok have fun. In my opinion, to recognize sociopaths, just means that you are aware of this specific variant of "wolves in sheep's clothing".

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    6. ..and it means to be able to predict methods and weaknesses of the sociopath (at work for example).

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    7. ..and as a consequence it maybe means to learn to live with it, that is: beeing alert

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    8. basically it gives you back your power knowing what your dealing with,then you have lots of choices and your not in their grasp anymore.

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    9. Outing would be nice.

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  11. I guess I most identify with the Academic with shades of Charmer and Creative. But overall, I don't see this list as particularly helpful. It seems like it is describing archetypes rather than actual people. It seemed like the author of this list was hung up on the attributes of people who presumably hurt her at some point.

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  12. Ridiculous post. What do they know? Sheep trying to define us and we lap it up with glee.

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    1. I thought it was spot on.

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  13. The Quiet psycho is really the most interesting one, this is the most likely candidate to be able to "identify" with for the general population. Somebody not that bad, no big lies, no mayhem, no violence. Maybe somebody who, like the "cousin" zodiac sign Scorpio, uses "harsh legal means" to get things done or even perform good deeds because its more practical than evil shite that will turn people against them? Tell us more about the Quiet specimens..

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  14. I think it was kinda just for fun.

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  15. 6, 9 & 12 combo. I wonder what the nine really means though, it's not necessarily perverse right?
    Have you ever wondered if brainwashing someone destructive or 'evil' through psychology to help them become their best self is brainwashing? because if it is, i believe a good psychologist is able to do that. Even with someone of his own kind.

    Extra pointless comment- the reason i don't want to study psychology when im good at it, is because most psychologists nowadays are just judgemental, superficial and biased; not really socios to be good at their job.
    MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio

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    1. "most psychologists nowadays are just judgemental, superficial and biased; not really socios to be good at their job." As a psychologist, I do have to say, your thoughts will probably change as you get older, or at least evolve in to a more fuller idea about your perception of psychologists, and the good and bad that they offer to sociopaths.

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  16. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
    I agree, i mean, i respect Freud, Jung, Horney, Maslow... They were the creators of the complex science of the workings of the human mind: through their self-awareness. But, tell me, yourself as a psychologist, have you ever met someone that studies that just because they always want to be right? I mean, psychology is an evolutionary science, since it grows along with us, therefore, it could never be static. What i mean is that, results are never gonna be the same. So how could someone call oneself a scientist of the human mind if they're not using it to reach their conclusions, but do so 'by the book'? That's what i mean. But i agree with you. Someday, psychologists will be the most conscious people. It just saddens me to see that people my age that want to study psychology, or psychologists that have tutored me or assisted me, misunderstand the purpose & method of such, thinking it's about encouraging a person to change, or to decipher a person with tests, when it's supposed to be aware precisely of what the individual is unaware of. A psychologist is someone that helps you change without even realizing it, not by telling you how to or what to do. It's also someone that knows that a person is changeable & will never have the same perspective throughout life, so could never invariably rely on tests. Personally, I think one is psychologically healthy when no 'big 5' personality trait (as positive as may sound), no enneagram personality type (as advantageous as may seem), no MBTI letter (as relatable as may be found) shows preference over another. Tests are helpful to note which 'side' you favor and to help you identify which ones you must develop, but we must never accept or conform to any kind of limit, we should strive to have a little of everything. Like being unable to tell if you're an E-I, N-S, T-F or J-P would mean you can easily alter between both, making you more adaptable. That would mean we're balanced. Anyway, I deviated... maybe i'm just too young to remark on something as complex.

    OH!! Something i read precisely yesterday on a psychology book: 'the more complex the nervous system, the more adaptable the organism.' and adaptability means evolution. So by becoming voluntarily, or in this case unconsciously (through a good psychologist) adaptable, we would be developing our species right? not only making them feel temporarily better.
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    1. Pretty unlikely. Evolution has to do with a species, not individuals. So, adjusting the psychological state of an individual would not influence evolution unless it somehow conferred a competitive benefit that was then passed on to offspring and throughout the population.

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    2. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      :( you have a point. Anyway, it would be optimal if it were contagious or hereditary, which I'm not sure of...

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    3. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Hey? but how did we become sedentary if not by taught procedure & logic? Now it's normal for us. I know it still doesn't make it an instinct or basic need, but a useful strategy for us to broaden our society to the point it now is unquestionable. I'm pretty sure there are methods to become 'balanced' as i mentioned before, by willingly learning to develop logic, emotion, extraversion, introspection, etc.
      It can be taught, then habitual.

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    4. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      I don't mean evolution in the biological sense, but in the conscious/logical sense. A sign that we're an evolved species that is reason.

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    5. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      The only way for us to biologically evolve would be to change our natural environment. But i meant it in the way to develop our reasoning, something that can be reached once a species is successfully adjusted to their habitat, something unlikely to be achieved by endangered species today. They have basic needs to take care of.

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    6. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Most of us can overlook the reasoning of other species such as whales, butterflies or salmon because we don't think like or speak whale, butterfly or salmon, but their migration was incited by survival, a basic need. Elephant herds or any other kind of herd for that matter is due to a safety need. The chimpanzee's growing fond for other species is a demonstration of a love & belonging need (in this case friendships), Lions challenge the alpha male in order to lead the pride as a system based on accomplishment & prestige, which is recognized as a need, so whomever 'achieves' leads. Humans seem to be stuck on the self-actualization needs, reaching the specie's full potential, intellectually. So this is a way to do so: voluntarily developing & expanding our perception. Becoming receptively adaptable.
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    7. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Once the biological organism has adapted, the needs 'evolve'. & Ours are failing to be fulfilled.

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    8. Evolutionary psychology gets into this subject, but keep in mind that it is a blind process that takes place on large timescales. It has nothing to do with cognition or self-actualization. It arises because it confers a competitive advantage to the population.

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    9. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Because a species as capable as ours shouldn't have wars nor be narrow minded, superficial, biased, judgmental, gullible, conforming, shallow, destructive, uninterested, hostile...
      when we have amazing analytical, associative, summarizing, planning, decoding, judging abilities; that if properly used, wouldn't cause the outcome we live in today, but result in the thrive of our coexistence without major troubles. How could the brightest brain & creature at the top of the food chain recur to self-destruction? Where's the intelligence in that, if it goes against our very innate need of survival? It's illogical < The worst insult we could ever get from a thinking specimen.
      We're provoking our own extinction by not thinking.
      & I'M GONNA STOP NOW because I'm starting to feel annoying ;)

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    10. Dude, you've been annoying for a while. Don't worry about it. More interesting is why those issues- war, destruction, extinction bother you so much.

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    11. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Why would you find me annoying? it seems i'm being fair enough to explain the basis of my judgement. And I am not threatening, I'm a socio.
      & I agree with you anyway, what seems to be the problem?
      But Everything happens for a reason; intellectual development the one for sociopaths. Let me explain why I identify this ('self upgrading') as the issue. I find it to be the logical somewhat natural goal & reason of existence of a sociopath. (Yes, i have constantly wondered about the real reason behind my 'condition'... ever since i was 7) Here i explained along with examples of distinguished people with sociopathic tendencies.

      "...I believe that if we eradicate society's evolutionary defense mechanism, we might as well have a nuclear war and come to an end with our fate.
      ASPD- we figure there's a problem with the individual, but never consider it might be a response to a problem with society.
      Sociopaths (extroverts) & psychopaths (more of introverts) are conscious human beings that recognize a problem external to them at a very young age. They are logical in their thinking so act defensively to this outer threat, retreating, confronting, attacking the 'problem' (society). They are an individual defense mechanism, like the cells in our bodies. They adapt & learn from adverse experiences & become what we know them to be. Some may lack the guidance to realize their essential role in society's psychological health and become somewhat selfish, like Machiavelli, Hitler & Napoleon, that turn outwardly destructive or factiously motivated; while others more altruistic such as Kant, Marx & Gandhi, that turn socially influential & collectively motivated. They are both as capable of such things, it's only a matter of orientation."

      I hope someone explains if i am to be mistaken.
      If someone believes i am, please express yourself scientifically & methodically (for there is nothing more tiresome for a socio than an undeveloped opinion) Not with facts, studies or charts, since i doubt everything, but pure reason and logic.

      I'd like to meet your thought process and if it proves to be valid i'll accept my mistake & thank you.
      Oh, & Hieronymous Bot, if you still seem to have a problem with me 'being annoying' after agreeing with your opinion in the first place & explaining all that i have, I will logically assume you first commented to seem clever, imposing & nothing more. I would see what you did there though socio, you were looking for a fault. Wouldn't make me respect you any less anyway, but that's not the way to solve 'problems' (with an opposing argument) but rather a broader explanation for your judgement.
      I apologize if i seemed to be against you at some point, i never have been, nor am. I completely agree with you, but i beg you to understand what I'm getting at. I respect you because you have a fairly reasonable logic judging by every comment of yours.

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    12. I think it is the wordiness of your posts combined with the half-formed big ideas. If you are really 17, this is excusable as you still have a lot to learn. I was probably pretentious at that age, too.

      If these topics interest you, you will certainly have ample opportunity to explore them in college. You seem smart. But I think you are searching for some kind of higher purpose or meaning in your sociopathy that doesn't exist. If you are a sociopath, there isn't some teleological reason why. It's part of the natural variation in people; some people are tall and some are short, some people are pretty and some are ugly, some people are empaths and some people are sociopaths. We might be able to theorize about what environmental factors led to the emergence of these traits, but if you are thinking about it in terms of "natural goals" or "reasons" or "purpose" you are already on the wrong track. Nature is uncaring and unfeeling and blind.

      We are just animals that happen to have the right mix of chemicals and hormones sloshing around in our skulls to make us feel smart and purposeful and important.

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    13. "make us feel"
      How insightfull.

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    14. MR 17soontobe18 yr old socio
      Nature doesn't make mistakes, it experiments. Why wouldn't we be one?

      & You know, your last remark "We are just animals that happen to have the right mix of chemicals and hormones sloshing around in our skulls to make us feel smart and purposeful and important" makes me realize that you lack a purpose, that you don't feel smart nor important; & you blame nature.
      So we just exist for the sake of existing? And even if we did, why wouldn't we at least pretend to have something useful to do? Something important? Sociopaths are great at lying to themselves, i'll give you that, but, how come that with your judgment (sociopathic i believe) you are still here? isn't it logical to be suicidal? You are here because you're still looking for answers to this question that has been implanted deep within you but you deny to let it win; that's why i respect you.
      Does being a sociopath mean you are born without a purpose? and therefore desperately seek to find one throughout your existence? that you are 'condemned for eternity' to lie to yourself and never achieve something great because you're psychologically imbalanced? The media has lied to everyone. 'Sicknesses' like these aren't genetic, they're defense mechanisms, and sociopaths happen to not give into society's 'self-destructive modus operandi', they are the only real humans left along with empaths & psychopaths (& maybe other 'imbalanced' tendencies), even though they're incomplete (ASPDs lack empathy; empaths lack a little abstraction).
      & This notion of yours "Nature is uncaring and unfeeling and blind", well, 'it' gave you your judgment that lead you to your last conclusion (the one I mentioned first), so maybe that's why you find it uncaring; you have all this talent, and for what? in the end you're not really smart, you're not really purposeful & you're not really important, so why pretend to believe so? & if you convinced yourself otherwise, nobody would believe you anyway. Look at me now.

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      It goes against all odds for socios to have such an important purpose doesn't it? what's gonna stop us from believing so if not ourselves. We are masterminds, we play with society, we make believe, we learn through other's, we train ourselves & the whole world is our playground. Why not play to be a hero? Sociopaths have the ease to become whatever they want to be, aren't they the greatest con-men ever? Truth is, you are absolutely right, I'm being pretentious, because I'm a sociopath. I refuse to underachieve with abilities such as mine; I refuse to give up on my goal if I have the ease to really become whatever I want to; I refuse to destroy the very world & society from which I resulted; I am not gonna kill my 'creators' as my 'disorder' supposes I would, I'm gonna help them. And if I fail & my thoughts make me pretentious, then I will die as such. I will not conform to a future of being labeled a mistake, an imbalance, an error, a disorder, that somebody else made us to be. Just because it's written down and approved by many and most doesn't make it a strict rule. They say sociopaths are unable of empathy yet i understand where you're coming from; people really believe we're incapable of feeling because we're too smart to find a use for it, but i have. Feeling helps you understand others, to grow emotionally, to be on the same 'brainwave' as another; or maybe I've just made myself believe that I can feel. Anyway, I think that believing I do is enough, otherwise i would perceive my existence as trivial as you do yours. And I have plans, to achieve my aspirations. I promise you will hear of me someday. You may try to convince me otherwise, that I actually am sick or confused, as will most psychologists, but if I'm not behaving destructively, why am I wrong? evil? Why am I sick? It is sick when it's illogical, like suicide; you feel fear, anxiety and stress to make you react to a possible threat. So what is depression if not a constant sign of a threat? Look at teenagers nowadays, they don't believe they can achieve anything; I do. Most people are stressed too and they don't change anything. Most people are socially anxious when we're supposed to be a social species. Most people are fearful of experiencing new things because they have been traumatized so badly to be afraid of living. So, what are they here for? Try all you want, tell me all you can, prove me a million times wrong; I am past the point of doubting myself, for i was one of hundreds of sperms that succeeded once, so why not one of millions of humans?

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    16. Let me be the first to congratulate you on all of your future success. You certainly seem to have two of the triad covered. ;)

      Look, I too have my own narcissistic tendencies, and even though I feel like the world revolves around me, rationally I know that it doesn't. There is certainly some tension between the belief that I matter and the knowledge that I don't. What you see as meaninglessness, I find incredibly liberating. I don't think my life is trivial, but it only matters because it is fleeting and finite. If one truly believes (as most religions do) in an afterlife, what significance does this bundle of years hold against eternity? The prospect of utter annihilation makes my own existence incredibly special, because it is the only opportunity I have to experience anything.

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      I'm gonna take that as a compliment.
      & I sincerely find your perspective on life respectable. I believe you do appreciate your existence & maybe that's where we both differ. Maybe me being a sociopath means I feel the need to take control of my future; to gravely need to find a valuable use for myself; that I can't even appreciate properly my own existence due to my lack of feeling; I can't seem to reach satiation. And to set up myself such a difficult task would mean I'm most likely to not complete it in my lifetime alone, so i won't feel the need to aim for something bigger that might in the end turn morbid. I'm trying to make the best of my worst trait: eternal inconformity. I'm a logical machine; achievement is my power source; and it worries me. It makes my reasoning endless, my goals or purposes exponentially expansive & my methods incredibly detailed. And trying to develop emotion might help me identify when to stop; by trying to fix the problem that keeps me from feeling I've done enough; that's my current intention. And in case I fail, I still would've put my abilities to good use even if it proves pointless, because I wouldn't have become destructive but instead constructive, by starting with myself. I'm my own experiment. A psychologist might conclude with the fact that I am helplessly ill; but I think I can fix my lack of emotion issue, the same way I turned my innate introversion into extraversion, by power of will encouraged by logic (I figured it was better for communicating ideas when I was about 12). I don't deny the fact I am imbalanced, for my logical side is by far more developed than my emotional one, but that doesn't mean I will stay like that forever. That's why I don't believe in tests or static personality types (with what we started this argumentation), I do believe in 'voluntary evolution' more like 'self-upgrading' or voluntary development; because it's only a matter of will to become balanced. & Lastly I want to thank you, because I have learned something from you.

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    I call it voluntary evolution. Or self upgrading. Do you think it's possible?

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  18. You percieve it as a rare gift. But it is a personality disorder. You should meet the other million socios (or Jesuses). It will make you grow or fight.

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  20. I have read your book and can relate about myself with sociopath tendencies. However, I'm stuck on if I am or more Machiavellian. I tend to have the following outlook.
    1 I have emotions for animals and would kill someone who is cruel to them.
    2 I hate terrorists and want the worse for them.
    3 I hate authority and often plan to ruin them or their reputations.
    4 I am defiant with my bosses.
    5 I read people and if your against me, I will plant seeds and seek to ruin you. If your a nice person and I like you, I'm a good friend. However, my friends are similar to me.
    6 A family member is playing games with me the example, I keep fit and they want me to be fat as they are. They go out of their way to go one better or belittle what I do. I'm slowly planting the seed to ruin them.
    7 I want power to ruin those who have tried to ruin me.
    8 I adapt to my surroundings and play nice when I meet new people, some I like and others I'm not interested. I hid my true nature and often play little boy lost.
    9 I'm dyslexic and often see things other don't and read body language and emotions.
    10 There is a battle between being the emperor from Star Wars or Han Solo and My good side tries to fend off the dark side. Personally I want to dominate and ruin those who I know are threats

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