Sunday, February 23, 2014

Sociopath quote: self-control

“Most powerful is he who has himself in his own power.”

--Seneca



UPDATE: I've been thinking why I have bothered to learn self-control. I think the obvious is that I am able to accomplish much more in my life if I don't give into every impulse but instead spend just a moment contemplating the potential ramifications. Another less obvious reason is that if I don't have control over myself, other people will be able to exploit those vulnerabilities in me by intentionally triggering me. I know all about this because I intentionally trigger people's rages myself, to provoke what most people consider "disgusting behavior".

(I love how the "victim" is smiling in this video.)

86 comments:

  1. Easy for good old Seneca to say, he wasn't a psychopath.

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  2. “It is folly for a man to pray to the gods for that which he has the power to obtain by himself.” - Epicurus

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  3. btw congrats about "dusting" lovefraud - that was epic ;-)

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  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttkpWr8N5K4

    I never knew Nero was such a sick fuck.

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  5. seneca also said
    The first petition that we are to make to Almighty God is for a good conscience, the next for health of mind, and then of body.

    perhaps more apt given ME's recent indications that he would like to be 'normal'

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  6. what is normal?

    "Every normal person, in fact, is only normal on the average. His ego approximates to that of the psychotic in some part or other and to a greater or lesser extent." - Sigmund Freud

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  7. I love being a psychopath, i have no connections with anyone, and never have, i want to delve deeper, get worse and more depraved.

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  8. Just started trying to relate to others again, it feels pretty good, I kind of forgot what I was missing out on

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  9. Anon 5:11, that won't make you exceptional only dangerous.

    Why don't you become a profiler and use your powers for good instead of evil?
    You could be the new Sherlock Holmes.

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  10. Thanks for the quote, Ive been reading a little on Nero, i think he is my new role model, he was so cruel people thought he was the anti Christ.

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  11. The Ascension of Isaiah is the first text to suggest that Nero was the Antichrist[clarification needed]. It claims that a lawless king, the slayer of his mother...will come and there will come with him all the powers of this world, and they will hearken unto him in all that he desires.

    The Sibylline Oracles, Book 5 and 8, written in the 2nd century, speak of Nero returning and bringing destruction. Within Christian communities, these writings, along with others, fueled the belief that Nero would return as the Antichrist. In 310, Lactantius wrote that Nero suddenly disappeared, and even the burial-place of that noxious wild beast was nowhere to be seen. This has led some persons of extravagant imagination to suppose that, having been conveyed to a distant region, he is still reserved alive; and to him they apply the Sibylline verses.

    In 422, Augustine of Hippo wrote about 2 Thessalonians 2:1–11, where he believed Paul mentioned the coming of the Antichrist. Though he rejects the theory, Augustine mentions that many Christians believed that Nero was the Antichrist or would return as the Antichrist. He wrote, so that in saying, "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work," he alluded to Nero, whose deeds already seemed to be as the deeds of Antichrist.

    Some modern biblical scholars such as Delbert Hillers (Johns Hopkins University) of the American Schools of Oriental Research and the editors of the Oxford & Harper Collins study Bibles, contend that the number 666 in the Book of Revelation is a code for Nero, a view that is also supported in Roman Catholic Biblical commentaries.

    The concept of Nero as the Antichrist is often a central belief of Preterist eschatology.

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  12. im sorry but "anonymous" leaves me cold, if you have something to say, put a name to it, otherwise you are essentially having a conversation with yourself.....it lacks balls....pardon my french

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  13. ...it makes things like "I love being a psychopath" really easy to say....

    imho

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  14. I love being me.

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  15. Don't lose focus. It will not make you powerful, only stupid. Unless you already are, in which case... Go wild! (and enjoy getting caught)

    And what a coincidence! I love being me too.

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  16. OK ANON, I'm naming you 'Kiss of Death'

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  17. Nero used christians as human torches to light his garden parties. That's a creative way of making an example. He was such a tyrant that even other tyrants were disturbed.

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  18. You want a sick fuck in that category, look up Caligula. Hilariously deviant. And I think Malcolm McDowell did a Caligula movie too.

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  19. I don't think he was a sick fuck ; I think he lived in a less civilized society. Its strange how people like julias ceasaer, Nero, mao, stalin, mao, and castro were proclaimed tyrants, but if you look at their economic (and sometimes) political goals they were the Robin Hoods of the time.

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  20. What's the term for people like that? Super psychopath?

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  21. I THINK IT'S BETTER TO NAME THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWED THE LIKES OF HITLER, STALIN, ETC. THEIR NATIONS HAVE EXCESSIVE HERD MENTALITY IN THEIR GENES.

    Ask who followed HItler? Germans.
    Ask wHo allowed Hitler to victimize themselves? Low functioning Jews.
    Where were high-functioning Jews? Taking care of themselves alone.
    Ask what's common between Germans and Jews? Herd mentality.

    Who the hell follows such people?
    The complete opposite of the description ME put out today.

    "Most powerful is he who has himself in his own power." Low forms confuse this with being a 'control freak.' Not the same thing at all.

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  22. What ignorance, anon 12.22.

    Herd mentality is in everyone's 'genes', not in certain races. Look up Milgram. It's just easier to get it going in a culture that is going through desperate times.

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  23. Careful not to upset anon 12.22, Medusa. I think they have what I like to call, 'special' genes.

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  24. Nero's my hero. He got power, and did what he wanted with it, no matter what people thought. He should be praised. Jesus was a little pussy.

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  25. But if life has taught me anything, its that people can't say no to pussy.

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  26. Herd mentality is in everyone's 'genes

    It's not in a psychopaths genes, psychopaths by nature are never loyal to institutions, that's why in prisons psychopathic inmates are the ones who rat out the gangs/friends if they get some sort of gain.

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  27. Pussy can't say no to me. (;

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  28. I would say Jesus was the most powerful acording to the quote..:)

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  29. I just took a look at that LoveFraud website. She's very bitter, no? She probably has high blood pressure from being that angry all the time...

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  30. Be happy if you can bring your left leg up...

    ... doctors were particularly encouraged by Giffords' bringing her left leg, which was dangling off the side of the bed, up onto the bed.

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  31. My girlfriend asked what else I wanted at our wedding, and I had to ask: Can we get human torches made from christians?

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  32. All weak minded cult followers should burn.

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  33. If you burned them alive I would go to that wedding.

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  34. burning christians? German soldiers had belts that said 'God is with me' in German.

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  35. Anybody who believes that god is with them should burn.

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  36. Who's going to marry you UKan a judge or Preist?

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  37. Or anyone that doesn't believe God is with them will burn.

    Two sides of the coin.

    WV; waked

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  38. Well there's no point in wasting time finding all the christians, cult followers and Germans. Lets just round up groups of random people, throw them into a pit, douse them in gasoline, drop a match and hope that some of them happen to belong to one of those groups. I'd lead the operation and you could all be my loyal followers who carry out my every order without question . After we've killed everyone else, I'll throw you guys into the pit for joining my cult. Whose with me?

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  39. I will let you think you are the leader Misanthrope, but once all the work is done you will willingly jump into the pit.

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  40. Dude, I'm just here for the baby back ribs.

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  41. The ribs are in the pit. Go ahead and help yourself Not Able. I'll be right behind you.

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  42. ILIKE its whenb ur beind me!@# loolw

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  43. for one i think that people who believe in god should be skinned alive and then burned so that they can see how there supposed god cant help them and secondly i really like waffles

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  44. You've really taken the self-diagnois too far. Silly.

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  45. I have found self-control to be of remarkable utility. Everything from getting physically fit to excelling in work and academics, they have for the most part paid off. That isn't to say the lack of the impulse "barrier" has gone away - that part of me will probably never change. It's a trait I inherently have. However, cognitive control does help. Convincing myself that holding off will produce better results to what I want, and seeing it happen, is self-reinforcing.

    It's too bad I can't experience significant emotional gratification for it like empaths. I'm thinking it would multiply the reinforcing effect. I suppose feeling regret would help the same way, though personally I would rather have the former. Positive reinforcement seems universally more favorable than negative reinforcement.

    Speaking of which, I have a question for the neurotypicals who visit - do you find emotional gratification to be a stronger reinforcer than regret in a given situation? That is to say, if you can feel one at a certain junction, which one is superior? All things being equal. I would think regret would be stronger in most cases, but that is just a guess.

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    1. It's funny you mention this Bob, I have an example that is playing out right now. I have an ex who lives in my condo complex with his mother. I stopped talking to him almost a year ago. He is an addict and alcoholic, stole jewelry from me that was given to me by my mother and grandmother which infuriates me.

      I know that there are several ways that I could get him in trouble. He is driving without a license, and he did not apply to live here. He would not get approved to live here due to his past and more current arrest record. If this was brought to the attention of the Board he would be evicted and maybe even his mother. I moved here first and by the time she moved in I had stopped talking to him.

      Of course I've thought about getting him in trouble since he moved here, but decided to do nothing. I'm happier than ever and I know that history repeats itself (his mother was evicted from her last place due to him).

      Just a few days ago I was sitting in my living room watching tv, windows open (I live in the south so it's nice out) and I overheard a conversation between another resident and the Board president outside. The resident was complaining about the "riff raff" hanging around their building due to my ex (of course I know that anyone he associates with is a pillhead) and they brought up something that was stole awhile ago (big surprise).

      My point is, as soon as I heard that conversation I felt such a sense of gratification that my prediction of history repeating itself was right. And I didn't have to get involved or indulge my feelings of revenge, even anonymously, for him to keep on fucking up his life.

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    2. Bob, i would say you need both. they have to work together. the emotions may feel good or bad but if you don't process them intellectually it's a bit like eating a bad meal that tastes good but your body does nothing with it or doesn't tell you it's poisoning you until it's too late. so you keep eating it when you should learn to associate that "good" taste with something very bad. it's the same with emotion.

      with every other experience, with what we see, smell, taste, we're taught to be curious and explore and examine it. what is it? how is it useful? so why are we taught to take emotions at face value? just because they originate from within? in a way all experience originates from within by the time the mind experiences the thing.

      the feeling of regret may be something that rightly should be a feeling of accomplishment, and vice versa. if you don't evaluate the feeling intellectually and process it, it's just blind hedonism where you're only ever chasing after the highs. and you're living like a complete pawn.

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    3. What do you mean by the feeling of regret rightly should be a feeling of accomplishment? And vice versa?

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    4. i was just talking to someone who is being bullied at work. she doesn't recognize her strengths and feels guilt when standing up for herself. if you come from a family that pulls the rug out from under you every time you stand up for yourself then you'll learn to side with them. defending yourself will feel like betraying them. feelings become mixed up. that's what i meant.

      if you never question what you feel and never look below the surface, what you're allowed to feel depends entirely on others. and most of those others are mindless fear filled drones living at the mercy of other others. they don't know anything about anything, least of all you.

      if you tell someone off and they "hate" for it you might feel regret because you rocked the boat instead of feeling accomplishment for finally standing up for yourself. or you might harm someone as a misguided way of standing up for yourself and feel good. whatever pattern is formed, whether it's a way of feeling or thinking or acting, it's like we're wired to keep repeating it. maybe a survival strategy? like it worked for so far, so better keep doing it? .

      but we also have minds with which to challenge and break patterns, yet people seem lazy about thinking their way out of things. why is it that after the age of 25 or 30 people stop using their minds? or am i being unfair here? : )

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    5. oh and i'm neurotypical, more or less

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    6. Bob, you say you don't experience significant emotional gratification, but surely you experience significant mental satisfaction from reaching goals? in this respect we're all the same.

      the difference is while i might feel mental satisfaction from success at work i might feel fear rather than emotional gratification at the accomplishment. well i myself wouldn't, but i've seen it in the faces of people who acquire unexpected power. they have this look like they're suddenly in possession of a bag of gold and think everyone might try to steal it.

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    7. It depends on what you consider and/or feel is mental satisfaction. I consider it a task completed. That something is working as anticipated or planned. I wouldn't say it is gratifying, or necessarily satisfying.

      It's difficult for me to say. There is the odd occasion where I might feel satisfied. Perhaps? I'm unsure. I'll have to consider it if/when the next time it happens. I suppose there is the occasional relief, in that no more labor is needed to accomplish the task and I can go on to do something else. Perhaps that is what I am considering is "satisfying".

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    8. yes, task completed. i do periodic mental checks to assess if i'm where i want to be and if any action needs to be taken. if not, it's very satisfying. more a thought with hints of emotion than pure feeling. a lot of it comes from working for years in a technical field. i found using the same approach in my personal life frees up time so i can have mental downtime.

      what do you feel where you're rewarded? why engage in a task that does nothing more for you than bring occasional relief? with me, it's curiosity that drives me, about the world in general and nature of reality in particular. not feelings.

      but i see that many people are driven only to feel good, and within the framework/limitations imposed by their fears. this is where i have more respect for "sociopathic" personalities. although i think i understand the empaths more.

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    9. “Do you find emotional gratification to be a stronger re-inforcer than regret in a given situation? That is to say, if you can feel one at a certain junction, which one is superior?”
      Good question, but it’s a little narrow: the either-or fallacy. The regret especially those that one cannot do much about it has very little utility, and “emotional” gratification is kind of the same, if you stand somewhere in the sociopathic spectrum, you understand. If purely fulfills the emotions and has no other utility, then it’s momentarily/low value. For me fulfilling MY plans- some are very mundane- are the most empowering things I can think of. I think people who are somewhere in this spectrum do their best when they assume power and control is on their side. When it goes way, they usually go away with it too. My father was very high in that spectrum- had a really good character, though- he fought really hard for incentives that directly related to his goals, and climbed up the ladder high. But didn’t even bother to touch many other “good” incentives that others were killing themselves for.
      So, to answer your question. I repeat what you said “Convincing myself that holding off will produce better results to what I want, and seeing it happen, is self-reinforcing.” & anything along that road would be considered a positive reinforcement, and I will store other irrelevant positive/negative things for one day to review them, if circumstances/their utility changes.
      I hope, I answered your question.

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    10. Not really. I am curious from an empath's perspective as to which one they find is a stronger reinforcer/motivator for them.

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    11. The stronger reinforcer is emotional gratification. No doubt.

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    12. Bob,

      If you mean regret as in if I do what I really want and punch someone in the face who disagrees with me then regret ending up in jail, yes that it is very strong motivator compared to the emotional gratification of "doing the right thing" or walking away in the same situation. But maybe I'm wrong or there would not be so many people in jail.

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  46. Bob, I don't have a lot of regrets. I won't say none, but i try to avoid things that will bring me guilt or unhappiness. Another word would be shame. I don't like to be ashamed of myself.
    Self-control is useful for anyone. And positive and negative reinforcement. To me, even if you don't feel things strongly, I would think being rewarded by those in your life, would make things easier for you. Even a sociopath would like to take the easiest route, I would think.

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    1. Which do you find to be a stronger motivator?

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  47. Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias were smiling that ridiculous
    "duping grin" when the spotlight was on them.
    Do you suppose that school teacher Colleen Ritzler was smiling
    with Phlip Chism snuck up behind her, puched her in the face,
    and commenced his henious rape/murder?

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  48. But psychopaths with self-control no longer are psychopaths? Then they have stepped down to the level of "half-hollow" specimens such as zodiac signs Scorpio or Virgo? Virgoans often have steely self-control in combination with cold, calculated & indifferent actions..

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    1. Or are we just sociopaths with discipline now?

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    2. Why not write about sociopaths that build cute doll-houses which they give away for free to needy orphans? Or dolphin-loving psychopaths? Anything seems to be possible..

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    3. Tell me, what would you do or like to do, if you wouldn't have gained this self-control? Scratch and bite like a cat, to knock down the stairs...how uncomfortable. Do you see enemies everywhere around? Earnestly!

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    4. I left the collaboration with my sociopathic coworker, because of a presumed unpredictability
      I thought it would be tiring to be more cautious than confident.
      He doesn't know that I know. Ja this the golden standard, to leave, if its too much?

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    5. "I met a guy that gave half his savings to charity, he must have been a psychopath!" Real hollow folks reading fantasy stuff in here must sure get that "beady eyed"-look, a certain tightness around the eyes..

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    6. Or people who like strawberries? Or those who prey on my child? Infertile women? Jumbo Chickens? douchebags? yes, discipline is a good thing for empaths, practice it more.

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    7. You claim victim status?
      I just left. Are there more constructive ways? Outing would be helpful, or less targeting.

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  49. I think ME is psychic. She always posts exactly what it is I'm thinking.. Either that or we just think the same. I was just thinking yesterday that probably triggers peoples rages intentionally.

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  50. why don't they just hit lower and break something like with socker

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  51. To me this is what I call ''emotional resonance''. If u reach to the other with the right frequency(see, there is a sonic component here called voice), his emotions will reach greater amplitude. In this context, self-control is how far can you feel the wave before all that emotional energy take controls of your body. In my definition its what make the difference between psychos and socios. The socio can play with his soul (and that of other)as the scientist play with matter. I guess a genetic predisposition is in play, but the many traumas you feel in life imprint a memory in your body and you react accordingly to that memory. I don't believe we have an heaven, or a special place we go after life, there is no magic but crass ignorance. Every information is carried in energy. A few weeks ago I wasn't in such a condition because I lacked the appropriate knowledge, I was still oblivious to so much This new piece of lore allowed me to manipulate people much more effectively.

    I recently encountered my first test subject, she's a traumatized schizophreniac with a very ''dramatic'' background linked to suicide in her family and the subsequent loss of familial bonds. She is extremely dumb (delusional) and in search of a strong male protector. She see me as ''Jesus''. But I wont harm her... why? There's nothing for me to gain from that, because I see a void gratification in violence that carry a risk of getting caught(don't need to lash out if I have self-control right) and something more useful in having a flock of my own. It is power and thats what I call gratification. People seeing me doing good to her will be swayed by such a display. I found a scientific technique to make self-diagnoses, I'm probably what would be called a paranoid schizophrenic. I am also what a lot of you are jealous of, an aspie. True power can be achieved only true comprehension of self.

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    1. Oh no, did you get caught again? Calm down. Not everyone who plays with your doll believes in that doll! OK. I liked your muppets, and I knew “a delusional moron” is on the other side. Question for me was that who is this person moving the muppet? Asking me where I live? Who is my husband? How old is my child? About my facebook account? Thankfully, I didn’t give you any substantial/reliable information. But through interacting with you I learned a lot about “YOU” . My assumption is that you are a sick sadist person, and surely dumb enough to think that I believed in your Jesus statue. It’s not only funny, but hilarious if you think I took my interactions with you serious!
      BUT, You might be deluded enough to think your muppet Jesus can’t be held responsible. Well, I disagree. I knew someone was talking on their behalf. My question was to figure out A) WHO is this person? & B) WHAT kind of a game is he playing?
      My answer: A) a former colleague B) Playing a shitty game
      Now, I understand your situation. You are desperate to defend yourself and cover up your butt. But tell me, what are you afraid of? What’s your rage about? Why are you going so schizoid?
      Afraid of Disgrace! Legal prosecution! Lawsuit! Well, I’m sorry.

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    2. And by “muppets” , I meant superchick & your phony Jesus. Remember, I do have all those 50 plus emails. & I advise you to start covering up your butt soon! You are sick, sick, sick.

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  52. Rob,
    It has been fun.
    I am done.

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  53. Thanks again Robin. :)

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  54. Thanks again Robert. Plasticity...Parkinson.. Davis. I can associate .:)
    Jesus was Rob????

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  55. To Bob, Rob, PJL, Fred.G, I.Passover and other scholars from UCD,

    Don’t project your paranoia and schizoid behavior to me. If you guys want to work along with a sociopathic blog owner and make silly dolls, and follow me around to prove some sort of illusionary point, then more power to you all. I understand you guys have some sort of insatiable curiosity about me that has become the main source of entertainment to many of you.
    I want to publicly ask you guys what are your concerns or questions? You guys do not need to interact with me through fake email accounts (e.g. superchick, phony Jesus, mother Theresa….) and ask very personal questions. I understand some of you have a very strong sexist/racist view of me, plus are looking for some more juicy stories to construct something out of nothing. I tell you, I have nothing to hide. If you are interested in any personal facts, background information, history of anything…..special documents, or whatever. Contact me directly! I have a clean background and I am proud of it. Also I have a fantastic husband, good family and many good friends. And I have NO NEED to return to that University, or reconnect with any of you.
    That being said, I still respond to your concerns or questions.

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    1. I haven't contacted you at all. Are you referring to someone else?

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    2. @ A Touch. clearly you are displaying delusional traits and some sort of paranoia over me. I cancelled my email subscription because I was getting no where with yr accusations awhile back. And yes I did leave a real address because I was concerned about your sons health. And showing kindness as best as I can. I thought you were a nice girl and you were suffering from some kind of paranoia thinking. So I was being nice by interacting with you from time to time. And showing concern. But you clearly twist things around - and accuse people of what your guilty of. Get help for yr sake. Stop dragging my screen name into this. It's getting old. Please leave me alone. And please get off my case. And yes I'm being blunt. Fuck off.

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    3. anon feb 23 5;08 speaking
      call me trueSight

      I have no link to you A Touch. Everything I typed about is of my personal life. It was the first time I wrote here... I somehow got interested in this site a few months ago, and I thought I could help some of you here with my own life experience, since reading you helped me a lot. I am not the antisocial kind, more like asocial. Although I used to be. (toxicomany, animal torture, scheming for money, humiliating people on purpose, passive-aggressive behavior in general, vagrancy) I think antisocial behavior has a lot to do with depression and pleasure seeking in general, and yes, lashing out from previous humilitiation, frustration and traumatism. (we are also genetically monsters) but thats for me. The women I was speaking of is on of my therapy buddy, I have no fucking links to you whatsoever. Also english is not my birth language...

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    4. Truesight your name! bad choice. Right away, gives it away but I like pathological liars and people who never give up. You know, someone subscribed my email in couple porn magazines. So, I had to spend whole my day yesterday trying to unsubscribe myself. I’m sure they got some kind of pleasure out of it. My message to them is NOT COOL at all! And then I get scary emails from someone calling himself “mother Theresa”, talks about constellations, danger zones and things like that …and then there is someone who calls me an ingrate for not saying thanks for all these, so please stop it, THANK YOU!!!!!

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