Monday, April 5, 2010

Survival of the fittest

A sociopath talks about teaching children empathy and growing up.
I went to catholic grade school. I remember being "taught" do unto others as you would have done unto you. I remember thinking I get it but what's that mean? When I was maybe 23, 24? I remember hearing the word empathy, or empathetic fools or something like that in a nirvana song and saying to myself hmmm, what's that mean? I looked it up. After further research I came along a short story on how to teach preschoolers empathy and so I began doing so with my daughter. But I also remember thinking damnit! Why didn't anyone teach me this when I was in grade school, could I have been different? It was nice to learn what the golden rule real REALLY means, to this day I can't say I believe or practice it (lol) I treat people close to me very good, I treat people I may need something from with my chraming gift giving self, I treat people I could careless about like just that, and the people close to me can see the quick switch flip, they say oh I see "you" coming oh no... They say the transition in persona's takes 2 mild agitations and I switch. Let's say like the incredible hulk, only cooler, and more able to communicate clearly. Because I then become brutally honest, far from charming, and very demanding. Its almost a shame. Its a decent skill, it should be valued.

[On the application of the law of the jungle or everyone is equal] I can't say I enjoyed here's your turn now... I became resentful of those terms almost like people should earn their places. When I was in gym class I was often picked by the teacher to be a captain then being able to choose my teammates, the teachers picked me because they saw me as a good sport who always picked the lousy players first so they didn't feel left out. And I would pick the crappiest volley players first, the shy awkward unpopular kids, but not to make them "feel" good... I did it for several reasons... 1st reason: dorky kids, bad at sports probably smart, I could probably use an ally in my AP chem class or in case I found myself in a situation where having these ppl like me may be good (ace in my back pocket) cheating on a test copying homework etc... 2nd reason: the teachers LOVED the idea that I gave the overlooked kids a centerstage feeling even if just for 5 minutes during gym class. So I liked that it made me look good to the teachers, who then viewed me as mature and reasonable, SO if I needed to be a few minutes late I wouldn't get written up or they'd let me slide on dress code etc... 3rd reason: this is probably my favorite, most pleasurable at least to me... To see the frustration on the other teams girls faces. They'd arm their team with the best players high fiving each other and playing so serious and they'd get so frustrated with how poorly our team was as an opponent. They'd actually get angry. And I'd say aw good job you'll get the serve over the net this time cmon try again, while those girls opposite us groaned and sighed because they wanted to play and win... I loved the angry looks on their faces, screw them, who cares about high school gym... I'll tell u who did, my awkward unpopular teammates because for 5 mins they were special, who made them feel special? Me.

The means for "teaching"(because really its society saying this is how you SHOULD behave feel etc) empathy in brief goes as follows... Two small children around your age(in order to teach the lesson its tailored to the pupils age) are riding bikes in the street in front of their home. The first child loses control and goes in the path of a car that slams on the breaks in a panic. Tires screech! The small child lays in the street, his bike wheel bent, the pedal broken off. When the second child runs up to his friend after the dust clears he sees his friend scraped from the road, blood coming from his scratches NOW u child imagine yourself laying on the road and feel the pain of the scratches and scrapes, and feel the throbbing headache and the burning blood coming from your cuts... Imagine how upset you would be if that was you laying in the street, feeling all that pain and having a ruined bike...suffering. NOW that's how u know how someone feels in a situation... So the question you have to ask yourself is "HOW" would you like your friends to react to your injuries, and your family to aid you with repairing your bike, and the ppl to help you off the street. That's how to understand how to do unto others as you would unto you... In a sense empathy, imagine yourself in that situation and how would you feel and want people to react to you, that's how you know how to behave... Or some nice crap like that... It makes sense if you take it back to childhood we can all remember and imagine pain, so its easy to relate to the hurt child... for me its just react as society wants me to, or how I want to? A personal dilemma... Truly, depends on the kid! If its a kid I like guess I'd give him a hand, however if its say my friends daughter who is 11 and just fowl mouthed and disrespectful to her mother would I help her no, I'd probably look at the car to see if she damaged the car... That's about it... Funny thing is I'm ok with not having any feelings if I were to witness something like that... I'd probably see it more as a traffic issue than much else, and Really who cares?

Incredible hulk, perhaps we(socios) all have him inside of us...I'm fine with mine.

56 comments:

  1. when i was little i used to watch that show just to hear that piano theme at the end

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  2. aspie...go swallow a bottle of aspirin. day after day after day after day, you continue to dilute any sort of meaning this blog has with your aimless, mind numbingly stupid comments and most of the time you aren't even commenting with other people, just posting a series of pointless gibberish in a row until four or seven comments later you somehow stop. you deserve to be forced to eat your fucking keyboard keys before someone chokes you to death with your mouse cord!

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  3. that hurt my feelings, lol

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  4. maybe you need to hop off my jock strap and ignore my posts, dickhead

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  5. maybe you need to hop off my jock strap...?

    what does that even mean? i could get it if you used an object like a dick, dildo, or strap on, but jock strap? are you retarded?

    also, why did you chose to post TWICE when you could've just posted that hurt my feelings, lol, maybe you need to hop off my jock strap and ignore my posts, dickhead

    you know, in ONE fucking post! get it you stupid jock strap wearing aspie? if you're gonna insult someone, do it in a single comment instead of posting something and then after thinking of something clever posting that thing too.

    a fucking jock strap? man i hope you don't have kids because you are too stupid to even insult with the proper logic! now go to wallgreen's, they're having a sale on aspirin.

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  6. however if its say my friends daughter who is 11 and just fowl mouthed and disrespectful to her mother would I help her no...

    Why would it matter to the reader whether a kid is disrespectful or not unless of course he "empathized" somehow with the mother?

    Who lets an opportunity to to bolster their image escape so easily? Bad, sociopath, bad.

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    1. I dunno, it seems logical. I mean if you're dealing with a kid like that, I can understand how even a sociopath would come to the conclusion that a bad-mouth, disrespectful child would deserve a lesser reaction. Not necessarily empathy-based decision, I can see the logic there

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  7. i'll say it any way i wish to
    deal with it

    now get back to work at your job at walgreens and make sure the aspirin is stacked neatly

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  8. You don't do it for yourself, Aspie. You do it because you think it makes you look clever or smart, like some kind of genius constantly coming up with new and important ideas. But we don't care what you have to say. It's not funny. It's not insightful. Sometimes it's not even coherent.

    You rarely ever add anything to these conversations. You talk just to show that you're thinking, and we don't care, because your ideas are usually pretty stupid. Even when you do get a decent one, it's difficult to fish it out of all the other senseless drivel you post, trying to be an intellectual.

    You have strings of 4-5 messages in a row because you don't fucking think before you post. Slow down and put a little thought into what you want to say. Don't just type out the first shit that pops into your mind and click the "Publish your Brainfart" button.

    Think it through, type it out, and then reread it BEFORE you post.

    I usually skip past your comments when I see more than 1 or 2 in a row. I'd like it if I didn't have to do that.

    --not original anon

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  9. i just free streamingly post most of the time, i feel comfortable here

    i don't really care what you think, anonymous number 2, and anyway, how do you know what anyone else thinks with your use of the "we" word?

    what are you the collective consciousness of this board?

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  10. Um. This banter back and forth really has nothing to do with the post...kind of irritating really. Starting to feel like a Facebook wall...:(

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  11. apologies, i'm finished arguing.

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  12. Most of the people here aren't idiots, and your comments are so "free streaming" that nobody who isn't your mother or an idiot could possibly give a damn about them. I think it's pretty safe to say that my "we" in this case represents the majority of readers.

    Feel free to go on "free streaming" if you're comfortable doing that. I'll just keep ignoring the shit.

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  13. ok, maybe you have a point

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  14. anon2 cleared up my points perfectly about your continuous thought leakage, only they did it without verbally attacking you, yet reinforcing it none the less.

    the use of “we” was most likely making the reinforcement evident to anyone who actually paid attention to what was being expressed without taking a personal offense to it, which therefore would keep them from becoming all defensive about it...which you ultimately did aspie.

    just to be clear, you came off defensive by trying to appear not offended by what was said.

    maybe you should work on that.

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  15. I cant lie. Ive posted some things that are likely off topic as well, sometimes a post will get me thinking..."Hey, this reminds me of.." It likely appears random to the reader, but theres a connectionin my mind. My appologies as well if I get off topic, I tend to do it as well.

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  16. oh look...they said it for me again while i was typing and proof reading my comment.

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  17. Didn't mean to steal your thunder, ol' buddy.

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  18. Anon:
    "oh look...they said it for me again while I was typing and proof reading my comment."

    Who in the hell is "they"?

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  19. Anon 1, telling someone to "go swallow a bottle of asprin" is an offensive comment which is pretty much guaranteed to be followed with an defensive response. It's probably safe to say you were aiming for that, so recanting later that anyone who "paid attention" to your message wouldn't have taken it personally is gonna lose some face. Aspie is as free to post whatever as you are to complain about it.

    As for this post, I'm not sure how imagining your own pain is going to help you feel someone else's. Empathy is feeling bad because another person feels bad, not feeling bad for your own hypothetical situation and transferring it onto them. Then it becomes a "what if this happens to me; what would I want them to do" situation.

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  20. I'm Peter, I'm colorblind, and I like it. After I brag a little bit with some unnecessary details about my childhood, I'm going to go into a long winded rant about the right way to see colors. You like, look at a shade of grey, and you think, "Man, that shade is darker than the other one, it's about the same shade as the roses in my yard." NOW you know how to see color. It's like when I look at some stupid art which is just stupid, and everyone else is gaping their jaws and all impressed and everything, and I just don't get it. I'm just like damn I wonder how much that canvas cost, and how much time was wasted painting it? but really, it doesn't bother me that I can't really see colors. That makes me the Hulk.

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    1. What an awesome analogy. I mean, I'm really hard pressed to find more words.

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  21. Anon. Why do you care so much? You have a serious problem if aspie's harmless posts have you all up in a bind ready to bust a gut. Who is it you are really angry at? People who have such violent reactions to something so innocuous usually have projection problems. Your self-hate is all too evident. Weak. You should learn a more effective means of bringing someone down.

    Oh, and did you notice that aspie's username is ASPIE? I assume for a reason.

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  22. I'll just keep ignoring the shit.

    What made you stop today?

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  23. Ishtar:
    I don't like reading his posts, but I don't like skipping them, either. I'd like to hear what he has to say, because sometimes he does have some good points. I just can't stand reading some of the shit he says, especially when he asks 3 contradicting questions in a row, in separate comments. Anon #1 was right, so I threw in hoping Aspie might catch on.

    Medusa:
    The beauty about being right is that it doesn't matter if you're angry, hateful, or out of line. You're still right.

    And somehow I don't think Anon #1 was trying to bring about some kind of revelation about why Aspie is annoying. I think it had more to do with letting the guy know.

    If someone walks into your office every day, covered in rancid sludge, completely oblivious to it, wouldn't you say something? If you were that person, wouldn't you want something said to you? Even if it's insulting? I'm thinking yes. The fact that said person lives in a dumpster doesn't mean you should put up with the stench and shut your mouth.

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  24. "I don't like reading his posts, but I don't like skipping them, either. I'd like to hear what he has to say, because sometimes he does have some good points. I just can't stand reading some of the shit he says"

    what you mean then apparently is you don't like reading some of my posts

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  25. What you mean then apparently is some Jews died in the holocaust.

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  26. it was a terrible thing

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  27. Get a room you two.

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  28. Regarding the Nirvana mention, i think it was his suicide note and maybe the bleach or incesticide album liner that made any mention of empathy.

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  29. here is the correct working nirvana link

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  30. i like yours too zoe
    thanks for being kind to me

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  31. I am also an aspie fan.

    Wouldn't be the same here without you.

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  32. aspie = daft 2010, only dimwitted. it seems that both were a fan favorite due to their stupidity. well at least daft finally fucked off.

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  33. yeah, until you discovered differently

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  34. what is that supposed to mean? are you daft?

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  35. TheviocesarecallingApril 5, 2010 at 11:47 PM

    This discussion has gone out of control. Aspie, you do not need to say thank you to every single fucking person. It doesn't matter. And other people, stop encouraging off topic dicussions when others want a serious one. Go to a chat room if you want that.

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  36. you are right
    it is only due to my pathetic capabilities and lack of creativity and my shame that all i have to say is thanks

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  37. ThevoicesarecallingApril 6, 2010 at 12:14 AM

    Aspie, this is the wrong site to look for sympathy.

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  38. ok, thanks Thevoicesarecalling.

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  39. understanding the concept of "do unto others..." was never a stretch for me. and really, your more worried about the damage to the car than to an 11 year old child? something is wrong with you. your damaged, you should see someone about that and you certainly should not be in a position to be teaching children anything.

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  40. Dont worry Aspie, the Anon's are just mean little bullies that like picking on people. Who tells someone to go swallow a bottle of asprin??! lol Good place for them I guess, on a Sociopath related blog site. Aspie has a fan club...you should set up a blog.

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  41. Aspie, please pay no attention to Pandora’s comment since there is no need for you to further pollute the internet with you unorganized brain droppings in the form of multiple posts that scatter across a blog with no real gps system to link your thoughts in order.

    So for the love of logic, do not, I repeat DO NOT make a blog.

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  42. Please, "anonymous", logic post police endowed less, if you are gonna get all proclamatory and certain, at least spell your possessive adjectives right. Because otherwise you don't look very good and then you make me look bad.

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  43. Why don't you guys just fuck each other already. You know you want to.

    And other people, stop encouraging off topic dicussions when others want a serious one. Go to a chat room if you want that.

    This blog post is a joke, so I'd say this pointless banter is actually quite fitting.

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  44. hey aspie for real this is alot of effort for some attention from people who could care less about and you just fall right into the jaws of the wolf(sociopaths) get a life, or stick around for the torture either way you get what you deserve...

    who is "muymalgal" ?? sweetheart this is a site for sociopaths not people with a conscience you also need to get a life...

    and how funny bad sociopath bad for caring about the mom a sign of empathy in itself... Id say I wouldn't help a bad kid cause the kid isnt deserving not because id care about a mom...

    i love my incredible hulk inside of me, i loved the colorblind reference! how true how much did that canvas cost and really how much of your life did u waste standing in front of it just to gain the approval of others...

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  45. It's fairly obvious by now that M.E. is trolling us by featuring such idiotic fan-mail.

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  46. i am quite sure there is no incredible hulk inside of me. a least not at the moment.

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  47. I have an Incredible Hulk action figure I could put inside of you . . .

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  48. I second this motion.

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