Sunday, October 2, 2011

Sociopaths in literature: Byron's "Lara"

From Byron's "Lara":
He stood a stranger in this breathing world,
An erring spirit from another hurled;
A thing of dark imaginings, that shaped
By choice the perils he by chance escaped;
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Too high for common selfishness, he could
At times resign his own for others' good,
But not in pity, not because he ought,
But in some strange perversity of thought,
That sway'd him onward with a secret pride
To do what few or none would do beside;
And this same impulse would, in tempting time,
Mislead his spirit equally to crime;
So much he soar'd beyond, or sunk beneath
The men with whom he felt condemn'd to breathe,
And long'd by good or ill to separate
Himself from all who shared his mortal state;
. . .
'Tis true, with other men their path he walk'd,
And like the rest in seeming did and talk'd,
Nor outraged Reason's rules by flaw nor start,
His madness was not of the head, but heart;
. . .
He had (if 'twere not nature's boon) an art
Of fixing memory on another's heart:
It was not love, perchance — nor hate — nor aught
That words can image to express the thought;
But they who saw him did not see in vain,
And once beheld, would ask of him again:
And those to whom he spake remember'd well,
And on the words, however light, would dwell.
None knew nor how, nor why, but he entwined
Himself perforce around the hearer's mind;
There he was stamp'd, in liking, or in hate,
If greeted once; however brief the date
That friendship, pity, or aversion knew,
Still there within the inmost thought he grew.
You could not penetrate his soul, but found
Despite your wonder, to your own he wound.
His presence haunted still; and from the breast
He forced an all-unwilling interest;
Vain was the struggle in that mental net,
His spirit seem'd to dare you to forget!

263 comments:

  1. OK, I realize he was "mad, bad and dangerous to know", but a sociopath? He loved that sister of his..... I have never ever blogged(?)before..but this website is sooo important. I am such an empath, I love everyone , or at least I want to . I was raised by a sociopathic mother. I gained much from trying to win her love only to be constantly thwarted with new rules, gamechanges and rings of fire to walk through . I developed a state of hypervigilence not uncommon with acute anxiety disorder...I trained my mind to percieve every possible angle of escape ( in case of her usual violence)and of mirroring(to be what it took to be recognized if only for a moment)My mother made me who I am...or I made me who I am -to be near her, until I grew up and got sick of her pointlessness. She is neither very intelligent or self aware . I have nothing to do with her now, but only because I recognize her ability to harm me still. I feel my concern for her wellbeing is misguided after reading some of the postings here and I am very grateful to all persons for being so honest about themselves here. I wish she could experience my love , the joy of loving another human being is priceless to me, but now I finaly realize that -it IS just me. Not everyone values emotion like I do. I had the very uncommon and unpleasant experience of (please forgive spelling)alexithymia. This is what my shrink called my psychological break with emotions when I watched someone I loved-who loved me back- die like a dog (from cancer) because my mother and her sociopathic father both wanted to save money on her( my grandma) pain meds, so they staggered the doses further and further apart to prevent frequent refills. One day while she was begging my grandfather for her medicine, in my presence, I felt like dying myself to take her pain away if I could -I was just a little kid and could do nothing-then it felt like a switch was flicked in my brain and I started to laugh. All my pain and sorrow were suddenly gone. I could feel nothing..I could only observe like an outsider. It lasted for years..Im guessing this is what helped me survive my chilhood and organize my mind in such meticulous detail concerning my envionment and the reactions of people in it to anticipate ...well, everything possible I guess. I never forgot what it was to be "whole" so I fought through many fearful memories yada yada I wont bore the thinkers out there with my prolonged suffering to find suffering again...but I chose it. I hungered for the pleasure enough to endure the pain and we empaths enjoy the pain alot more most are willing to admit. I can not say what it is like to be you , if you have never experienced emotions, but I am willing to concede if it is the hand you were dealt, I do not see any point in not accepting that we are just diffirent and neutral. I cant hate my mom for being born just like her father. I cant love her in close proximity either. I made a point of letting her know that now that I am the young and the strong and she is old and weak it would be in her best interest to behave around grandchildren and the like...I hate what she did ..sometimes then I remember who I am and why . Thanks for sharing all you molders and shapers. I have to ask : Where does the paranormal fit in for sociopaths ? Ghost sightings , ufo's, I mean space aliens! , telepathy...is it thought or emotion or does it not exist in your world? I ask because I have seen ...I dont know what..but is there anyone out there with no emotions who has had an encounter with any Otherworldly phenomena..or is all this too the realm of the empath? And am I correct in thinking sociopathic persons have no emotions ? or are there degrees of "emotionlessness" ? -Miss Mouse.

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  2. "I wont bore the thinkers out there with my prolonged suffering to find suffering again...but I chose it."

    This thinker would love to endure such boredom.

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  4. ME, is not the only one here running the show.

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  5. @anon

    How very cryptic and vague of you.

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  6. -----That sway'd him onward with a secret pride.-----

    And this my comrades, is the secret power which keeps this community stumbling onward.

    M.E.'s secret pride is bursting at the seems at this point. Lord Byron , rock on!

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  7. @anon

    Do tell . . . or is the show running its inhabitants?

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  8. If it wasn't a show would anyone bother?
    Honestly?

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  9. What is the difference between show and real, sweet Bluebird?

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  10. The level of absurdity and grandiosity in real life is limited, and we cannot slip into disguise to egg the story on whilst the audience watches. The masks can be dispensed with in the show, the fangs unsheathed, we need not worry the parade will leave a dent in our waking life reality.

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  11. @Bluebird

    More risk you say? And no risk. Yet the thrill of risk?
    Fangs which can only bite the ego. Your mask is off here Bluebird. How does it make you feel alive?

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  12. David, you're a fucking idiot sometimes. Look at the time-stamps.

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  13. @Nikita

    Doesn't everybody want to strip off the facade every so often and let their ego be judged? Even sociopaths want validation. In the end who we are is nothing but an illusion. In the end, the ego is nothing but a hollow shell. If I show you who I am here, you can only hurt my pride. If you hurt me too bad, I can turn tail and hide, I can call you a monster, you need never see my face, I need never open this webpage again. In real life, you can't hide your face from those around you, neither can you assure that the people who degrade your perceived self worth will never come in contact with you again. It is not more lively to dwell here than in the real world, but the interplay transcends that which our day-to-day worlds can provide. And it is liberating, is it not? If you are sociopath, I assume you are putting on faces all the time. You can't give the game away too soon-right? Otherwise there are consequences. Here, there are no consequences. Hence-havoc. Hence-fun.

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  14. Who is judged in a game with no rules? if the ego is an illusion that there is nothing to judge sweet bird. So how similar are you to your BFF?

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  15. Your humor is contagious.

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  16. It is only illusions judging illusions. The difference between me and anybody else in existence is merely superficial. But if we do not hold holy superficiality, we would be forced to confront the distressing reality that we are all one and the same and nothing holds any importance or relevance, and there are no standards by which we can judge. Who can live by a thing? We revert to pointing fingers, casting judgements, hoarding vanity.

    How similar am I to M? Is that the question? Well, we are both vulnerable. Otherwise we would not both have been prey. But where she is caught in the deluded world of pushing away her failings and blindness, I am obsessed with putting it into light. Where she denied that she has any emotions whatsoever, that she is human, that she was hurt, I accept my weakness and in doing so attempt to transcend it. Where she is bitterness and hostility like concrete, I forgive like a rolling stone and look towards something beyond these petty lies we tell each other and these petty vanities we hold to be ourselves.

    Of course, that is all superficial. In the end, I am no more separate from her than I am from anybody else. In the end our subjective existences are a passing candle flame that cannot ever be validated or invalidated. It is up to you, my dear friend, to decide if it is worth making a judgement at all. But that is the existentialist way of things-nothing means a thing, and life does not have some outside purpose or cause. If it is worth it, to you, to make these judgements on value and worth, than make them for the simple sake of being alive and having the competency to do so. You can be held accountable for nothing more or less than what is relevant to your brief existence.

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  17. Thank you for an opus. I meant how are you similar to socio-boy?

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  18. Shall I be the first one to point out this is an old post?

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  19. Nikita said...
    Your humor is contagious.

    Like mad cow disease.

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  20. @Nikita

    It's hard to shut up my mind sometimes.

    I don't think I am similar to him. Though he used to say I was "just like him". that was a long time ago. Back then he was a different person. but his selves undergo spontaneous combustion and rebirth all the time. He used to think we were exactly alike and he used to say he was once "just like me".
    But I think this was just projecting the person he wanted to see onto me. He said we were similar because I used to carry around a video camera and record everything, and he used to do that also (before he became ever so much wiser). And because he was always philosophical, just like me, and existentially confused. We were kindred spirits, he claimed. Lots of little things I'd do that would provoke this response. I think he was merely desperate to identify with somebody. Now he tells me I'm just like M-he hasn't said I was "like him" for months, I think because I fell in love with him, and that was something he did not identify with at all.

    How am I like him? I'm not cold like him. Maybe manipulative, but empaths are manipulative in a different way than sociopaths. I don't believe I'm narcissistic, but if I were narcissistic than I don't think I'd see myself that way. I can love unlike him. I'm not like a sociopath-I will level with you here: I wish I was like a sociopath. I'm hypersensitive and pathologically guilt-ridden. I wish I felt nothing sometimes. I try and tell myself the full range of human emotion is a fantastic thing, but everything affects me too deeply. I feel wrong, and bad, and like I am screwing things and people up all the time. And I take everything personally, and my feelings consume me. I wish I were detached and cold. I wish I were like him.

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  21. I have wished to callous my heart, bluebird. It can be done, but only superficially. You are who you are. You are never wrong to listen to your natural feelings.

    They are one version of your map. One layer. What will you see if you lay a piece of tracing paper over with the map you want-perhaps a less self-abusive map?

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  22. How far are you going to take this?

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  23. Can I have my post back?

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  24. How far will one go, to be another?

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  25. How far will one go, to be another? Far enough to look into the mirror and paint someone else as self-portrait. Yikes....

    empath anon@3:44... start applying the socio tactics on your mom, lie and tell her that you love her, pump her ego and narcissism. In the process you may be surprised to see that you are actually totally cool with accepting her as she is while not letting her manipulate you even for a moment. You can give a lot of successful no's when presented with love (clearly, while it may not be her that you love, by the sound of your long post I sense that you love the concept of mom and believe that a child should love mom. I'm potentially suggesting you a path to let go a lot of unnecessary guilt trips in your brain--while reserving the right to be completely wrong).

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  27. Were you copied? That's funny.

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  30. Those of you with a narc dad/mom and a sibling where one of you was the one chosen to be loved and the other to be dumped. If you have photo albums you can look at the body language of the narc dad with each child separately, and you'd be amazed at the change of personality in the pictures. I've been in the photo albums this weekend, it's unbelievable to observe. I notice that with the loved child the narc parent looks relaxed, happy, like a normal parent, and with the other s/he looks like the best shit that happened on this earth in complete pause, with intense jaws, and even looking away from the photographer, hilarious!.

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  31. Just like Lord Byron in the pause. Big shit lost in space pause... lol...

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  33. I was loved by dad, the others loved by mom, both parents with strong narcissistic tendencies. Photos fit every combo in terms of body language.

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  35. Both parents with narcissistic fathers and both parents loved by mom and dumped by dad.

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  36. I'm at a mall. So weird when I get eye contact with an attractive male who signals back. I never learned how to follow up on these. I never stay with the look. He'd need to be either hugely confident or a narc to get over the intimidation. And there we are. Main reason for my joy of socios. Any suggestions, ladies?

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  37. Nikita, your testing is getting funny. What are you testing? New picture?

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  40. How far will one go, to be another?

    If you are not "there" in the way that fits... if you are a triangle, and the situation requires a circle, and you really want to be in that situation, if you can successfully be a circle, even for a few months, wouldn't you do it, Nikita?

    I went out with this guy -man I was in love with him.. when we broke up, someone who knows me well said "oh, you were just trying on that life".
    I didn't understand that then, that she was essentially telling me I was being fake (I guess that's what she meant..what else could that have meant? She is one of my mentors, and wasn't being an asshole)

    It occurs to me now that my life has been richer, my experiences more varied, and my life fuller because I have done this kind of thing. I don't regret any losses.

    I can and want to be authentic, I just have a hard time. I question everything I do. This isn't a joy.

    I have a great deal of empathy. I can't explain this any better to you, but understand it isn't as if I woke up one day and said to myself: "How fake can I be today? Who can I trick?"

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  41. Curious. I dated different types of guys and certainly had to fit the scene and ws a version of myself with each based on the interaction. But, never thought I was being fake. I don't understand why you feel fake just because you tried a certain style of life with a man?

    Pretty much you are a different person in each interaction based on where the other is coming from. If he is too intense you're the light one, if he is too light you're the deep or dark. All relative.

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  42. @ anon

    "I have a great deal of empathy. I can't explain this any better to you, but understand it isn't as if I woke up one day and said to myself: "How fake can I be today? Who can I trick?"

    You have feel empathy but you like to trick people? I smell bullshit. It sounds like you are extremely insecure and nothing more. Just another angry empath wishing they could be stronger than they really are.

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  43. @ Sceli

    do you date alot of socios?

    I can somewhat relate. I love powerful men. I used to pick weak men but eventually I got bored running circles around them.

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  44. I love reading these posts and aobserving the almost universal impulse to define each other by given labels and then insist we adhere to them.

    Empaths can be deviously manipulative motherfuckers, and sociopaths can be surprisingly considerate and ethical beings.

    Our limitations are not all that define us.

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  45. Nikita, your posts are such a turn on - why would you delete them

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  46. I can't say that I dated a lot of socios. One for sure (when I ran into him some years later he asked me if I am still breaking hearts--guess I was good at not showing the hell I went through). I like people who are fearless, charming, strong and while they last. First sign of gaming and I am out of the picture, so it's really hard to be tricked into anything by a socio or an empath for me. I know what I like and I am willing to starve (sexually that is, I don't need men for action and fun) when what I like is not hitting on.

    It's like trying on different shells, I just can't get obsessed by a man, it's all about the quality of the interaction and the fun in the activities (including sex). I get turned off at the first sign of drama and pack away really quickly. It's that dad's love thing that I always had that keeps bullshit away at the first sign of appearing. So, not much about dreaming of a happily ever after story.

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  47. There's a lot of estrogen floating around today.

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  48. @Seamus

    Makes a change.

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  49. and sociopaths can be surprisingly considerate and ethical beings.

    Don't try running that one in reverse too. The last thing any of us are is considerate and ethical. ha ha ha. If you actually believe that you are setting yourself up.

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  50. @ Sceli its sad that you keep bringing up posts about me from the day prior.

    I am guessing you are one of those fat, ugly bitches that is easily threatened by a women who embraces female sexuality.

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  51. Sceli: to oversimplify, you are unwilling to form deep lasting attachments in a fully erotic/intimate relationship with people who are less than perfect per your standards.

    Which is fine. But it does mean that a certain sense of deeply shared history will not be yours in that kind of relationship.

    But so long as you feel loved in the process enough to satisfy your desire to be so loved, it's all good, I suppose.

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  52. And your wrong about limitations not defining us. In life you have to embrace who you are not try to find a way out of it. You are going to be who you are whether you like it or not.

    Like trying to get someone to not feel empathy or trying to get a sociopath to become compassionate. It's a waste of time and it just leads to a road of delusion.

    In life you have to find out who you are and embrace the good with the bad. Sociopaths have strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. The best way to play it is to play your strengths and avoid doing anything that highlights your weakness: Like being empathetic.

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  53. Kenmeer livermaile said...

    Sceli: to oversimplify, you are unwilling to form deep lasting attachments in a fully erotic/intimate relationship with people who are less than perfect per your standards.

    I say...she is one fat bitch who makes up stories to make her self feel better since she can't get laid. I see chicks like this all the time- its always the grenades that claim they are picky.

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  54. If you'll reread what I actually wrote, I said that our limitations are not ALL that define us.

    For example, your incomplete reading of what I wrote, or deliberately ignorant response to what I wrote, does not mean that you will always respond to me in a manner in which you are, in effect, arguing with yourself not me.

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  55. "Empaths can be deviously manipulative motherfuckers, and sociopaths can be surprisingly considerate and ethical beings."

    Bahahahaha I think I just peed myself laughing.

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  56. If I was arguing with myself you wouldn't be the one responding you cunt. Who can complete anything you are writing Kenmeer. Your lucky if they are still awake third word in. When was the last time you saw a ethical and considerate sociopath, kenny? How is that for ignorant. Or maybe your not ignorant, ken, maybe your just a sucker.

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  57. @Nikita

    How far...? I don't know. I'm an uber empath essentially. I can't take it anywhere. You can only go so long and so far defying your nature before the rubber band snaps back. I think knowing him has made me more savvy...and I've learned a trick or two maybe. But my emotions, I don't know, they're very powerful in a sense.

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  58. @Sweetcheeks

    Or maybe picky women have standards. But wait, I thought Sceli was a homosexual man. I'm not having pops at either of yous. I was just under the impression that Sceli was gay, and a man. Sweetcheeks, nothing wrong with women expressing female sexuality whatsoever. I think it's good when women are comfortable being women. I don't think a lot of women are unfortunately.

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  59. Blue

    I know your comment wasn't directed towards me, but I wanted to give you a tip. It doesn't matter how much you study him, the problem is your emotions will get to you every time. You have said to me that you are obsessive and it looks as though you aren't willing to walk away anytime soon. I hope this guy is as great as you say he is because you are in for one hell of a rollercoaster ride.

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  61. How old are you, Bluebird?

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  62. @ anon

    awww shit maybe. I will have to go back and read through all the dribble. All I saw was blah blah cancer and their weird take on yesterdays post. Normally only sexually repressed people or fat/ ugly chicks play the "whore" card for stupid reasons like a pin up picture or flirty comments.

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  63. @Sweetcheeks

    Nothing wrong with being a flirty lady. I'm one myself ;)

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  64. is it safe? can I stay?

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  65. @John

    I'm 19yrs

    @sweet

    I will walk away at some point. The most beautiful guy I've ever seen is in my bio class and he seems very into me. I'd drop socio boy for this foreign beautiful man in a heartbeat. But I'd still like to keep his friendship.

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  66. @Blubird

    I'm 19 too. Party!!!!

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  67. Luke you are like trying to tell a deaf person to hear. You pathologically lie so much you believe your own bollocks so you are entirely decieved already. How can anyone listen to what you say on people when you are a walking mark. It was so easy to manipulate you that even erin did it. How is your spastic son luke? Did you convince him you are a man yet or was it your wife who needed convincing. Maybe Erin's psychic powers will tell us.

    Luka Brazinni ha haa hah ah. The Big Kuhuna. The Don of Peri-on, ha ha ha, Senor Luka the cartel hitman. Ha ha ha. You are a joke I'm glad you came back so we can laugh at you. It's like duct taping up one of your old punching bags.

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  68. "Empaths can be deviously manipulative motherfuckers"

    Sometimes.

    "sociopaths can be surprisingly considerate and ethical beings."

    False. Nomatter how you look at it. If you want to talk about people not being defined by their limitations it would make more sense to say that not all sociopaths end up institutionalized forever. Being ethical and considerate has nothing to do we sociopathy. Ever.

    "I'd drop socio boy for this foreign beautiful man in a heartbeat. But I'd still like to keep his friendship."

    Yeah good luck with that.

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  69. I would love to suck off your handicapped son Luke. I bet he would twitch all over when he blows. Ami was such a let down in the end.

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  70. a) "Empaths can be deviously manipulative motherfuckers"

    b) Sometimes.

    c) Which is contained in 'can be'.

    a) "sociopaths can be surprisingly considerate and ethical beings."

    b) False.

    c) Prove it.

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  71. "Prove it."

    I do believe that you are fucking with us Ken.

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  72. So, Ukan, are you a low-functioning sociopath or just garden variety insecure more-or-less normal? You say you;re a socio, and you claim to speak on behalf of all socios, but who can really tell? Not us suckers. Either way, you're functioning rather... lowly... here.

    One reason FB is so popular (that site initiated by a person some say is a high-functioning socio) is that consistently rude people get bumped off comment threads without requiring a moderator or an Ignore function or any such thing. Instead, people just spontaneously remove them from their Friends List and/or Block them.

    Here, UKan, we have to tolerate you unless the blow owner decides to remove you, and in a forum such as this, that would be rather dull, since part o f the topic here is how and why certain persons are so inherently inconsiderate of others' feelings and fortunes, and how and why they do or don't express that lack of consideration.

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  73. Your the one with the burden of proof on your head mate. You wont find any psychologist that will agree with you nor do we. Ethical sociopaths? How about cocky codependents or stable borderlines?

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  76. "Bahahahaha I think I just peed myself laughing."

    Oh, sweetcheeks, I wouldn't want to offend you by accusing you of such prospects, but sheer numbers make a strong case for my statement. There are 14 million more or less socioipaths in the world (if we average the hi-lo estimates).

    Among those 14 million, naturally selective variation -- both by genetics and environment -- virtually guarantees that some will be smart and progressively adaptive enough to recognize that ethical integrity based on the Golden Ruler will serve them better overall than the ducks and dodges of a lifetime of conning and scamming.

    Would such a creature perfectly adhere to such a transcendental understanding? Highly unlikely, but then empaths stab each other in the back too.

    I have passive/aggressive tendencies, alas, and the result of these is that despite my high compassion and devotion to integrity based on mutual respect, I often do things that really suck. Main difference between me and a sociopath is that I have to con *myself* into believing I'm justified in being a dick whereas a typical socio simply doesn't concern himself with that question.

    You socios think you're *so* special! It's cute. But the fact is, one needn't be a 'norm' to be a sucker or place unjustified faith in unproven things one feels certain about or merely to fool oneself into thinking one knows more than one does. It happens all the time to pert near everyone.

    But if it makes you happpy, hell, I'll suspend my natural skepticism and take you at your word that you really are a sociopath. I mean, you're trying so hard!

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  77. You may as well be asking me to prove that books have words in them. Fucking numbskull. If you don't understand why there are no ethical sociopaths then you don't understand what a sociopath is.

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  78. "I do believe that you are fucking with us Ken."

    Misanthrope: I am simply maintaining the highest epistemological standards I possibly can with my limited homo sapien brain.

    Folks here are spouting convictions as truth left and right. My strong tendency is to holler bullshit at unsubstantiated statements.

    But I DO fuck with those who fuck with me, and it's obvious to see who lashes out first.

    But you know, I like that comment, Misanthrope. It makes you think you are on of the real socios who, I assume, must surely exist on a blog professedly written by a sociopath.

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  79. I claim to speak on behalf of all 'socios'? Ha ha ha. Where the fuck did you get that shite from?

    Mark Zerzberg has assburgers he is not a sociopath. This is a sociopath site where the strong trample on the weak. People don't have any rights like facebook. If you annoy us we just play games with you and draw out your insecurities till you can't take it anymore.

    Mark zersberg wasn't even ethical he fucked over his best friend. That's how people are in general when they get a opportunity sociopath or not.

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  80. I take that back, Misanthrope. Well, not quite. I still am willing to believe you;re a sociopath, but are just another so-so cage-rattling socio who thinks he's slicker than he really is.

    But that's just my opinion. You might be a very sweet person who thinks he knows more than he does and gets pissed when someone challenges him on that.

    If you're going to cuss me, though, I'd prefer more creative slander. Fucking numbskull has a nice punch but it sounds like something that, you know, a fucking numbskull would say.

    But you tried, you knuckle-fucking monkeywart, and that's better than licking a dead dogs ass until it bleeds, I reckon. Don;t believe me? Try it!

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  81. "I am simply maintaining the highest epistemological standards I possibly can with my limited homo sapien brain."

    You poor bastard.

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  82. @ Kenmeer

    why would you believe there is such a thing as an ethical sociopath? are you speaking for yourself or are you speaking from experience?

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  83. Go read the DSM you idiot. Or any written book on psychopaths besides dexter. Its not convictions its definitions which you are trying to change to meet your fancy.

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  84. "You wont find any psychologist that will agree with you nor do we."

    Yippee. The clinical record shows that psychiatry does well to maintain a 50% consistency of diagnosis rate. I'm not knocking psychiatry, just acknowledging that it is still a very young science, akin to the state general medicine was a few centuries ago.

    Appeals to authority depend on the reliability of the authority. The shrink community changes its opinions on so many disorders and pyschoses that the DSMV-??? is like waiting for next year's new car models.

    Besides: you're a socio, right? You can con a shrink. After all, they're just norms (most of them, at least, or so one hopes).

    P.S> You met one unrestrained ego you met them all, socio, norm, narc, paraschizo... and they all share an equal disregard for turth or logical discourse or intellectual hygiene or epistemological integrity. Eg wants to be right, wants to WIN, just like a classic socio.

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  85. Well, I've concluded, UKan, that socio or not, you're a profound waste of time but I've enjoyed spanking you pointy little ass anyway. Must be the numbskull in me.

    If you are a socio, you need to try and manipulate less intelligent persons than me. Unless you *like* getting your ass kicked? Sociopathy and masochism are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    Crawl tall, UKan. Hold that drool-maker high!

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  86. How are you arguing traits of a condition with the people who put a name to it? Who would trust the your opinion over a professionals, Ken?

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  87. Norm? Socio? Narc? Its interesting you use those words.

    You are using words psychologists made up. People with doctorates. Yet here you are telling them what the definition of the word they made up is with no qualifications. You have serious delusions of grandure. To you the people who fit in the pclr are low functioning. People who fit in your own self made definition are high functioning. Let me guess what's coming next: you are the high functioning sociopath right? Save it we hear this every week. Another narcissist who thinks they are special.

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  88. Ken, you keep tossing the word epistemological around like it proves you're smart, but if you really were, you'd know that you sound a lot smarter when you speak in 'everyday' English, and are still able to make your point.

    And for fuck's sake man, I called myself a 'homo sapiens' when I was eight and I had just learned what the word meant.

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  89. @ Kenmeer

    you can throw all the big words and statistics around here all you want, but you apparently have never dealt with a real sociopath. It's either that or you are yet another victim trying to rationalize your own delusions that you can change a socio or teach them to love etc.

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  90. Making me look good and yourself look like a delusional idiot is not manipulation kid. Your supposed to get me out of character. Not get me to do what I do here weekly.

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  91. Ken I don't understand why idiots like you come in here and think they can glaze over their stupidity with arrogance and fancy vocab.

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  92. i can't believe how right you guys were about luke

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  93. Ken

    Just because you don't want to see the monsters in this world, doesn't mean they aren't there. Not only do they exist, but they are watching you and licking their chops.

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  94. Is that the real Luke? How do you know?

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  95. Someone'll have to describe what the anon just posted; I just get a blogger™ logo with two gears in it, followed by a script-error (short story: mobile-browser, disagrees with practically everything more complicated than the comments page here).

    And of course we were right. He even told me to stop reading in between the lines. What does that tell you?

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  96. Yes it's Luke. Just click his blue name above.

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  97. That link won't work for me either.

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  98. That's because you are using your iPhone Wheatley.

    ---------------------------------

    Welcome to Friends of JJ

    Welcome to the blog site for Friends of JJ. We'll be working on this site over the coming weeks to add forums, as well as some sort of newsletter.

    This blog site will follow-and announce-the progress for Friends of JJ as we continue to work through the process of setting up the organization. We'll post details about our plans, as well as make our history together with you, our online followers.

    Friends of JJ is an organization my fiance and I are in the midst of setting up. It's named for our 5 year old son, JJ who is pictured to the left with his kitten.

    JJ has bilateral schizencephaly-or Cerebral Palsy as it's more commonly known. As with any child, there are challenges to raising him, those challenges are just different than raising other children. Regardless of the challenges and the difference in physical ability, we do our best to treat JJ like we would any other child. We make sure to get him out of the house, bring him to the dog park with our little dog when we go, bring him to the supermarket every time we go, bring him to ball games, and bring him to events.

    We understand that often it can be difficult to get our kids out. Especially if we have other children! Not only do we have all of the equipment, but also have to find enough seating for everyone, a simple trip to Applebee's or Shaw's can seem like a day long event. We believe that if we're able to come together as a group we can not only introduce our children to other children like them, but we can ease the burden on ourselves as parents, and perhaps find some peer support ourselves.


    Friends of JJ's mission will be a mission with several goals, the first of which will be to help our children socialize normally. There social interactions are extremely important to the mental health and development of our children. We plan to get our children out in a group of kids with whom they can interact normally. A group of their peers whom they don't have to feel inferior to due to physical limitations beyond their control. We'll bring the kids to ball games, and seek opportunities through our connections in which they can even have opportunities other kids dont. Chances to meet their favorite athletes (you can see JJ pictured to the right with Tom Brady, QB of the New England Patriots), chances to meet other celebrities. Chances to hear from successful people with similar problems to those that our children face. People who have not only done well despite their challenges, but people who have risen about standards set for typically developing children and adults.

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  99. here is the link:

    http://friendsofjj.blogspot.com/

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  100. Beyond social interactions we hope to help parents and families understand their children better. We understand that often times parents simply don't have time or the availability to make their child's therapy sessions. Little notes back and forth can't really express everything one needs to know either. We hope to be able to fund individual therapy at our clients' homes during the weekend when parents are home. A physical, occupational, or speech therapist can make a house call and help you learn the things you need to know to ensure you're maximizing your son or daughter's development at home. To show you the stretches or other exercises that should be done, the things your child needs to practice every day to one day help them learn to walk, run, talk, or otherwise become more independent.

    We also understand that often insurance companies and school systems can be difficult to deal with. We hope to be able to act as advocates for those parents who need them. We'll do what we can-once we have the financial ability-to help parents with equipment monetarily. We'll offer advice and try to be a sounding board on various subjects important to us as parents of special needs children.

    I'm glad you're here following us. We hope you enjoy our blog and are able to contribute to, participate with, or benefit from our organization.

    Sincerely,

    Randy, CT, and most of all...JJ




    by Luke at 1:34 pm

    photo

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  101. That kid is really cute.

    I feel sorry for him. And not because he has CP.

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  102. Wealth of InformationOctober 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM

    Here it comes

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  103. Fat wanker. Funny how he asked me if I was the "big dumb guy" in real life. I did expect him to be younger though.

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  104. lol luke looks like a fat, ugly, football coach

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  105. He either doesn't know how Blogger™ works, or has completely stopped trying to hide himself.

    In any case, I feel kinda bad for them. Fuck.

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  106. He looks like the kind of guy who thinks he's in the Secret Service 24/7.

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  107. He looks exactly like what I thought: A douchebag blowhard

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  108. ewwww Wheatley. go slap yourself now. he was a willing participant and came to this blog on his own free will. everything that has happened, he has brought on himself.

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  109. Awww. Look at all the effort he puts into helping those retarded little rugrats. I guess they all remind him of that little vegetable he's got on his shoulders. Thats where his soft spot comes from Hahaha. I was right.

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  110. Lol. I don't mean I feel guilty or anything, just that now he seems so human and vulnerable and how he's only helping people with a kid that has a serious handicap a little bit by showing them they're not alone and with legal and health and generally practical issues that prevent them from having a 'normal' life and their kid from a normal childhood, I feel less of a drive to 'go after' him.

    That picture's not helping either.

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  111. everyone in the forum thinks you guys are a bunch of idiots

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  112. He feels guilty about completely abandoning his other son.

    Hence the 'empathy' moment that brought him here in the first place.

    It was a symbol not only of his own childhood, but also his CP son's physical suffering, as well as the suffering of the son he left behind.

    Also, perhaps, he thinks he was the cause of his son getting CP in the first place.

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  113. Ukan needs to have a seriously handicapped child. Maybe, there would be some hope for Ukan, then.

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  114. @ Wheatley

    you couldn't tell that he had a sad little life from his comments? What did you think he was - a fucking mobster?

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  115. Friends of JJ Organization was founded from this address


    56 Doyle Ave, Providence, RI 02906

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  116. Yeah, Wheatley, that's how I felt about Erin. And Zwang. For about two minutes.

    You the kind of person who feels bad for narcissists, eh? As long as they have a good sob story...

    Good for him for wanting to help kids with CP, but that doesn't make him any less of a narcissist.

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  117. Ah fuck, I really hope he is not Jewish.

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  118. Some baller Randy your house is worth $159,000 and its classified as a condo.

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  119. Luke should only have pride for who he is and what he does.
    Most of you shitheads would never be man enough to deal with what he does, and do what he does.
    Go Luke!

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  120. Shhhh Ukan

    You don't want the cartel after you now do you hahahahahaha

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  121. I think it has more to do with the fact that he used to be just a name and an obnoxious personality. And now he's all in my face about being a human too. And I've got this thing for humans, I think I've mentioned it before. Anyway, the feeling is starting to disappear already, so nothing to worry about: I'm not that human after all. :P

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  122. Luke should only have pride for who he is and what he does.
    Most of you shitheads would never be man enough to deal with what he does, and do what he does.
    Go Luke!

    Yeah so much fucking pride that he lied about all of it right?

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  123. Man you are such a coward, Erin. Any 'ol spine will do, eh?As long as it's not yours.

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  124. Jesus Fucking Christ! Etin already has 907 forum posts? *faints*

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  125. Randy Lutz
    Accounting Clerk at APC by Schneider Electric

    Location
    Providence, Rhode Island Area
    Industry
    Information Technology and Services
    Randy Lutz's Overview
    Current •Accounting Clerk at APC by Schneider Electric
    Past •Controller/Accountant at P & P Quick-Sett Services, Inc.
    •Business Consultant at self employed
    Education •Johnson and Wales University

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  126. I'm no yankee, but I don't think 'Schneider Electric' is a fortune 500 company, is it?

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  127. I knew you were a liar Randy. You were extactly what I thought you were maybe I should be a psychic. A fucking office clerk.
    You thought it would not come to light? How many of you will stand in the slaughterhouse, but refuse to think the blade will come down on you.

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  128. E-mail:

    randy.lutz@rhodynews.com

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  129. "Just because you don't want to see the monsters in this world, doesn't mean they aren't there. Not only do they exist, but they are watching you and licking their chops."

    SC: just because you say that I "don't want to see the monsters in this world", doesn't mean that this is an accurate, or even remotely close description of my beliefs on the matter.

    Oh my. Scary monsters. Would it make sex with you more exciting if I was scared of you, SC? (Why do I envision you as a skinny youngish white guy with a mullet?)

    When I first visited this blog a few months ago, there were more intelligent posters here than not. Not today. *sigh*

    "How are you arguing traits of a condition with the people who put a name to it? Who would trust the your opinion over a professionals, Ken?"

    You really can't talk a straight line, can you? I'm told this is classic of socios, but it's also classic of almost any old online fool who can;t stand to open his mind long enough to learn he might not know as much as he thinks.

    Anyway, to answer your question: I would. I've dealt with quite a few.

    But the free spankings are over, Miss Ann. From now on, you'll have to pay. Fee: think before you speak and make sense that addresses your topic.

    I have pink-tasseled buggy whips! (You know you wanna.)

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  130. Nevermind that. I just googled it.

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  131. here's his Twitter

    Man, that's one unattractive dude.

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  132. Mabye we should post some of the shit he wrote here all over the web.

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  133. His MySpace

    Note the McLovin reference in the comments.

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  134. ouch! no wonder he is so miserable and desperate for attention. i bet his fiance is a hag.

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  135. Oct 01, 2011; 9:56pm Re: "He doesn't need to be held back mentally because the other kids in the special needs room are affected mentally. I want him to compare himself to regular kids, be smarter than they are. I tell him every day I expect him to be the smartest kid in the city, not just in his class or whatever-and I"m being very real about that.

    He has a computer that speaks for him. I'm having spanish and german programmed into it and he's only 5 years old. I intend for him to speak at least a half a dozen languages. I'm also having math programs put in so we can work on his math skills. He's physically handicapped, so he's going to need to make up for that with his mind. He needs to learn how to be tough as well, so yea the main classroom until there's a reason not to.

    I'll have to play it by ear, the only way I'll allow him out of a normal classroom is under one of two scenarios-a) to go to an advanced class. b) to an individual tutor that understands how smart he is capable of being".



    sounds like luke is going to push his kid pretty hard.

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  136. Ha ha ha ha. About his 'fiance'. Send her a email.

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  137. About me:
    Okay, so I was looking at this and realized the last time I updated it in anyway was at the end of 2008-I guess I should at least make updating my myspace an annual thing right? Here goes nothing. Lutz Accounting is still going, I've worked with a few different clients this year. The economy is not helping things, and we've been slow as of late but things will pick up in time. Hit up my site, check it out, let me know what I could be doing better. www.lutzaccounting.com I'm still a few classes short of my degree, as my mouth keeps getting me suspended (big shocker I'm sure to those who know me, lol) but oh well, I'll get the 5 classes I have left finished sometime in the near future. After that fk JWU, I can't stand this damn school. Perhaps I'll look at Bryant for my Master's. In the meanwhile I got the AS this past spring, so that's good. I'm still writing some, albeit not as much as I'd like-things get busy with everyone around, and one gets tired trying to keep CT, JJ, and the puppies from tearing the house apart on a daily basis, lol. I've got a few real good short stories I'm still trying to perfect, I'll get those done one of these days and go from there. I still think my ideal career would be to own, or run a book store. I'd love to be able to hang out all day reading the greats and writing my own work.


    More like Lulz Accounting

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  138. Show her what he really thinks about his fucking family.

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  139. Ugh, yeah Erin, I noticed that when he was talking about how he's going to raise his kid to not be weak.

    Sounds like an awful narc parent. Making his kid into what he wants him to be, instead of just letting his kid be whoever he is and learning to be proud of that.

    Disgusting.

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  140. as my mouth keeps getting me suspended (big shocker I'm sure to those who know me

    Yes we know about that big mouth of yours luke. It got you in trouble yet again. I bet your friends are going to laugh at the fact that you tried to play games in a sociopath site and got fucked over. You are the only person who couldn't see that coming.


    I've got a few real good short stories I'm still trying to perfect

    How telling this statement is. Let me tell you Luke, you really need to work on your story writing skills.

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  141. letting his kid be whoever he is and learning to be proud of that.

    That's really the only way to raise a kid.

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  142. @Medusa

    Did you just call me Erin? Bitch. ;p

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  143. I'm done for now I got shite to do today.

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  144. WHOOPS Eden, totally FREUDIAN as ALL slips are!

    Kidding...

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  145. i might just use that email address...

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  146. Anon:

    "hey kid, how's life? hit me up sometime: rcl250@jwu.edu is the email I use most."

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  147. Phone number: 401-345-1974

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  148. Income: Less than $30,000

    Yet he manages millions....

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  149. i wonder if he is gonna still hang around here **smirk**

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  150. I thought it was kind of cute, Medusa. You don't have a crush on me, do you?

    Anyway... I was playing catch up, and ran across that quote of Luke's in the forum. Thought I'd post it up for Wheately's benefit. He's not so human Wheat... he expects his kid to be some kind of super human, and is probably looks down on his handicap. He'll never be able to live up to daddy's expectations.

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  151. "Income: Less than $30,000"

    A narc would put the highest income possible.

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  152. A narc would put the highest income possible.

    Only a moronic one who doesn't realize his wife, friends and co-workers can see his MySpace page.

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  153. I should probably say this, just to keep my honesty-streak going.

    With that one word ("disgusting") you've pretty neatly encapsulated why I suddenly felt bad for Randy. I don't think of people as something I should have an opinion on, just as a loose collection of incredibly varied attributes. The moment Randy 'became' a human being, he became interesting to observe and understand. Because I think people are fascinating.

    I've actually tried to learn Randy's 'secret knock' a couple of times whike arguing with him because of the reason mentioned above, only for him to make it clear it was ridiculously long and complicated so I'd just give up.

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  154. "Only a moronic one who doesn't realize his wife, friends and co-workers can see his MySpace page."

    A narc wouldn't care. Narcissists rule their household with an iron fist, or any environment for that matter.

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  155. Being flawed makes him a lot more human actually, Eden.

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  156. He isn't a narcissist though, a narcissist would be ashamed of a disabled child.

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  157. "He isn't a narcissist though, a narcissist would be ashamed of a disabled child."

    He is ashamed. That's why he wants to push him so hard to be some kind of genius robot kid.

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  158. Not if he can use it to brag about 'overcoming things' and 'not giving up' and stuff. He's a narcissist because he's pushing his child because of his handicap, not despite.

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  159. The smoking, drinking and clear lack of impression management on his profile, indicates to me that he is a beeper.

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  160. If he were a narc or a p, he'd project an image of perfection, wealth and all around pretentiousness, his photographs would have to be perfect and there would be bragging all over his page.

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  161. If a psychopath had an unattractive wife, he wouldn't post a picture of her (it would make him look poor) psychopaths are experts on impression management.

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  162. Pardon me Wheat, I forgot in order to make a point with you, it needs to read like like an A+ essay.

    I meant to say... he's not MORE human. Is that better? We are basically making the same point about the way he is with his son... stop being so damn anal.

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  163. Who are you kidding that's exactly what he did. He claimed to be a ex drug trafficker who made tons.of money and a manager of a fortune 500 company who is rich.

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  164. How quickly you abandoned picking on me (for things like having an adequate vocabulary and for using the words that means what I intended to say) and went to picking on Luke!

    I've read about socios having short attention spans and being chronically bored.

    What I hadn't read about (that I recall) but makes perfect sense is how fragile and shallow your egos can be.

    And all this psych-label mongering reminds me of all the flags waving futilely, frantically, phonily after 911 as so many people "Stood United".

    AH, but I'm bored too, and a certain amount of agitation by the insecure and/or self-inflated seems to be passing my time well enough this afternoon. Besides, I learn things here...

    For example, I've learned how easy it is to fool sociopaths (or at least folks who act rude, shallow, and nasty) simply by being rigorously honest.

    That is useful, but no thanks from me. That wopu;d be so... normal... and that isn't done around here. Around here one is either an empath of some type or some flavor of the sociopathic spectrum from Aspies to narcissist (yes, some psych sources consider Aspies part of the 'socio-spectrum', although in a few years they'll surely rename that spectrum and perhaps discule Aspies, since they're still learning what is consistently veerifiabl and what was just plausible hypothesis).

    Wheatley: I like the term homo sapiens. I simply do. I would say that I'm sorry if it offends you but that would be insincere, and I'm a very sincere person. And, sincerely, I don't use bog words to impress caterwaulers like you and some of the others on this thread. That would mean I need your approval to validate me, and I surely don't.

    OK. I really need to get back to work. It's been a little but fun, a tad annoying, moderately informative, and better than a poke in the... oh, stick it wherever it makes you feel good except anywhere near me.

    Now, fulfill my prediction, please, asnd continue another round of group hooting centered on guessing/projecting what my 'labelk' is between bouts of yakking on what a fool/idiot/sucker you say I must be.

    UNless I took the fun away with my expectations.

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  165. Oops. Rigorousn intellectual hygiene and epistemologickaboodle type stuff bids me to also mention that my foolish vain ego is also part of whay I've been replying to this stream of self-indulgent ego-driven jive. JUst because I note that your foolish egos are 90% of your posts doesn't mean that I think I'm above you in that regard; it only means I think I'm either more aware of this fact or more sincere about it. SOme of you here could be quite aware of it and insincere about it, although if so you're not fooling anyone. Well, not me at least.

    Happy festivities,

    Kenmeer Livermaile

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  166. What? Why are you so offended? My comments aren't exactly A+ material, in case you hadn't noticed.

    I was just trying to say that I'm a little bit more reluctant to mindlessly undermine Randy's sense of self-worth, now that I know more about him and there's more information to 'study'.

    Ken, funny how you only explained the 'homo sapiens' thing, and not the 'unnecessary long words' thing. It just occurred to me: are you calling yourself a homo sapiens because you don't want to be more specific than that?

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  167. I'm not offended, but sometimes you sound too much like sceli...
    Perhaps like her, you're a bit aspie? ;p

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  168. You are a self inflated pseudo academic with no credibility. The fact you are trying to lump asssburgers and sociopath is laughable. You watch two of them in the room and you will see the difference immediately. My first semester in business class was with a guy with assburgers. He punched numbers and would talk like a robot while I stood and walked around the room talking loudly and placing my stuf on different desks to make people feel their space was getting smaller. When we spoke about doing things unethical he refused to take part in it talking about his belief in god. I pushed keeping money off the books of the school and using spaces we weren't allowed to do fundraisers in. He stuck to school I dropped out and went back to being a criminal when I got bored even though they voted me as president for next semester.

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  169. "Ken, funny how you only explained the 'homo sapiens' thing, and not the 'unnecessary long words' thing."

    Funny how you ignored that I addressed those words that you, the word police, think are unessential. That would be a classioc socio hallmark: blatantly ignorant something plainly stated. Keep it up you could even set up a gaslighting attempt.

    And lookit me! Still here letting my primal emotions kick me around out of boredom and lack of more disciplined motivation! How sad.

    Now all you socios say, 'I feel sorry for you, (insert random insult here)' in that insincere way. Restore my faith in inumanity.

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  170. Okay, maybe not offended; more like annoyed. Aspie? Could be, actually. :D

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  171. What if your daughter had CP, Eden?

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  172. "Adequate vocabulary" doesn't cut it. Most of the time, people who are using unnecessary long words are trying to distract you from the fact they have nothing intelligent to say. You also don't seem like English is your first language; more like second language, and you've read a lot of random wikipedia-articles.

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  173. "What if your daughter had CP, Eden?"

    I have two daughters, and I'm not the one who came on here making up a bunch of lies about myself. I'm exactly what I say I am.

    I can say that I would never tell either one of my kids, that I expect them to be the smartest kid in the city, or learn a dozen languages; handicapped or no. Who sets those kinds of standards up for their children?

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  174. So Eden
    You would do everything perfectly with a kid with CP and love it when a whole group of people laughed at you and your child ?

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  175. Do you think these people would spare you,Eden?

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  176. I've been meaning to ask, Erin: why are you posting as anons so much?

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  177. Do you think your twin is funny, Wheatley?

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  178. I don't have a twin. Not that I know of, at least.

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  179. I don't see anyone here attacking his child. Just him... and rightly so. Luke is exactly what he was made out to be when he first got here, and deserves what he gets.

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  180. So I checked in (I know, I know) and Wheatley made me laugh out loud. Not with him, mind you. In-fucking-credible.

    Seriously lol!!!!

    The blog watch dog made me verify that this post's secret word is pifitics. I hereby name this kind of blog posting 'pifitics'.

    Still laughing. Simply can't believe it.

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  181. I am sure if Eden or Medusa had a kid with CP, they would do everything,perfectly,just the right balance of pushing the child and not pushing the child.

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  182. "Adequate vocabulary" doesn't cut it. Most of the time, people who are using unnecessary long words are trying to distract you from the fact they have nothing intelligent to say.

    =

    GLIB

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  183. I am sure if Eden or Medusa had a kid with CP, they would do everything,perfectly,just the right balance of pushing the child and not pushing the child.

    Erin, I haven't seen Luke worry at all about pushing the child too much.

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  184. Kenmeer = M@

    Funny you complain abut the forums and say you are getting nothing out of it and act like you are going to leave, now you are coming in here to complain about the comments.

    Because you are so fucking important, time to school everyone?

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  185. Oh wait... that's right.

    Having a CP child
    =
    Okay to be a narc parent.

    I'll try to remember that next time.

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  186. Eden,I guess it is OK for you to be a parent with an attachment disorder.

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  187. And I guess it's okay for you to be a parent with severe emotional issues.

    Oh wait... we know how that turned out. You're the only one with proof.

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  188. Aren't you going to tell us anything about these ethical sociopaths Kenny?

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  189. Yes,Medusa
    People have problems. They are not perfect like you who spams the forum with a guy opening his ass.

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  190. Fortunately for my children, I am capable of attaching myself to them. I love my children very much. They are the only beings I have felt that way about... and it is because of that love, I can say... I would never set the bar so high, that it could never be touched by them.

    I tell my eldest that she needs to live up to what she knows her potential to be. I don't tell her that her potential, needs to exceed everyone else around her.

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  191. They are not perfect like you who spams the forum with a guy opening his ass.

    Right back at 'cha, love.

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  192. Do you tell her what her 'potential' should be, Eden?

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  193. "They are not perfect like you who spams the forum with a guy opening his ass."

    lol that was actually a pleasant surprise! It was also a very clever joke, Medusa...

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  194. Medusa
    I am sure you would handle a kid with CP a lot more maturely that Luke .

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