Saturday, June 30, 2012

Nothing to lose

I was reading a NY Post feature on comedian Adam Carolla.  Some may have heard of it because he controversially alleged that women are not funny.  What I found more interesting (and relevant) was his discussion of his carefree early life of chaos, and how that has changed for him now that he has gotten successful:

Q: While working construction in LA, you once had to talk down a guy with a gun. What went through your mind?

A: If you don’t have that much to lose, you don’t really worry about that. Now that I have a nice house and some cars and a family, the notion of being in a situation like that is horrifying. But if you’re heading downtown to get some free government cheese, then going back to watch your black-and-white TV, and you’re an alcoholic, you don’t wanna get shot, but it’s almost a lateral move.

This idea of the inherent freedom in having nothing to lose reminded me of something that Hervey Cleckley said in his book Mask of Sanity:

By some incomprehensible and untempting piece of folly or buffoonery, he eventually cuts short any activity in which he is succeeding, no matter whether it is crime or honest endeavor. At the behest of trivial impulses he repeatedly addresses himself directly to folly. In the more seriously affected examples, it is impossible for wealthy, influential, and devoted relatives to place the psychopath in any position, however ingeniously it may be chosen,where he will not succeed eventually in failing with spectacular and bizarre splendor. Considering a longitudinal section of his life, his behavior gives such an impression of gratuitous folly and nonsensical activity in such massive accumulation that it is hard to avoid the conclusion that here is the product of true madness - of madness in a sense quite as real as that conveyed to the imaginative layman by the terrible word lunatic.With the further consideration that all this skein of apparent madness has been wovenby a person of (technically) unimpaired and superior intellectual powers and universally regarded as sane, the surmise intrudes that we are confronted by a serious and unusual type of genuine abnormality.

I started thinking, maybe this nothing-to-lose principle is one of the reasons that sociopaths traditionally self destruct after a certain degree of success, in addition to other more obvious things like need for stimulation. Maybe they don't like success because it means they have more to lose, and so less freedom in a way.  Interestingly, Harvard Business School professor Clayton Christensen has suggested that companies who have made it big on innovative technology typically fall behind because they are unwilling to take the same sorts of risks that characterized their initial successes.

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    1. Ha! I got first on the 'Nothing to lose' post!

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    2. fuck you. And fuck Kany.

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  2. Shit, so close.

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  3. Anyway, after actually reading the post..

    I can relate to that, I suppose. But I'd say a sociopath doesn't do well with power because even though we want power, the process of getting it is infinitely more interesting. What do you do with power once you have it? Use it to get whatever you want without actually doing anything. ...so what do you do now that you've nothing to do? I'd also say that I'd be full well willing to risk it all just to have something to do again. But my mind might change if I actually had a nice situation in front of me. Who can say?

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  4. Yeah that's how it is. I always thought I would die around twenty so I really didn't care. Everything after I got out of prison to me was time added. In the end it all turned out right and we are living a life unimaginable to people our age. If you see how we act and what we do day to day you would think we were lazy failures but in reality we are more successful than anyone we know our age.

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  5. UKanJune 30, 2012 12:03 AM
    Bollocks. I do my job and she understands that. I'm providing for her and our family. I don't take my work home and she is separated from my business. Don't act like you know anything about my world. From your perspective every soldier will come home and murder their wife. That;s far from the truth.


    who do you think you are? walter white from breaking bad? you ain't providing for no family, your doing this shit for you and you only, this ain't about no wife, this aint about no providing. this is about power and your own needs.

    He protects me. And I know he can protect me against more people than anyone you've ever met. Imagine having a demon on your side.

    you are weak, you aint no better than monica and all those freaks if thats the real reason you are with him. why does he respect someone like you ? open your eyes lady, youre nothing to him, youre blind. he aint protecting you from nothing, hes gonna die someday with his drug bullshit and your codependant ass will be left alone, devastated by his death. Lets be real here, if you die, hes gonna get over you pretty fast, but will you ? your ready to risk your life for some protection ? what exactly is he protectin u from ? aliens ? any dude with money can offer you a nice house on the beach with the same protection

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    1. Lol. I have faith in my husband's ability. His many capabilities, generally unsurpassable, get us both through a great many things. We work together. Call me what you want. We know what brings us together. And by now many people here do.

      And thankfully, he's protecting me from you, gangster!

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    2. Shut up, you annoy me.

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    3. Stop being fake. If you want to make statements just come out with your own name cunt. Don't try to hide your name behind some bollocks of aint and what not that you think can hide it. You used Your and Youre incorrectly and then correctly again you idiot. You tried to swap up writing styles but you can't stay consistent with your character you fucking knob. You shouldn't have used codependent either goober because some cunt that uses the word aint isn't going to be spouting off psychological diagnosis that she has used to describe herself in the past even though your character is supposed to be new. You are fucking up all over the place.

      You know nothing about our life. You want to play it safe and watch TV show fantasies about my life and make judgments you only sound like a fool. My wife is provided for lavishly. My family is secure. Most people in my country can't say the same and Im sure you can't either.

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    4. Prescient Points Dwayne
      Where you been hiding all my life, Sweet cheeks?

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  6. This article really crystallized something for me. I have screwed up every academic and career opportunity set along my path through self-sabotage, although I did manage to salvage my academic record by manipulating my professors into changing my grades, years later. (There’s one for ya poptart)

    I’ve shamelessly made up ridiculous excuses for my absences (my grandmother died, my father went into a diabetic coma, LOL!), left right in the middle of major rushes after verbally decimating manager types, and repeatedly and not shown up for various jobs after accepting them, simply because I couldn’t be bothered.

    Each and time I have self-destructed spectacularly, it is because I felt that my freedom was being restricted, whether it be through a schedule or someone else’s expectations or demands. This is true both interpersonally and professionally. Owning my own business has been a godsend.

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  7. You are so much a bad ass alter. I don't know how you made it through your life of stealing candy bars, calling in sick, and breaking windows. It's a wonder you are still breathing.~

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    1. No kidding. How did you manage to survive? Talked your professors into higher grades? Jeepers. You must have initiated a conversation with them to do that.

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    2. You're such an idiot. I never once alluded to stealing candy bars or breaking windows. Do you think that by associating a falsehood with me often enough, you will breathe life into the caricature you have forged? I am not whom or what you think I am, Ukunt.

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    3. You are nothing, which is what I think you are. I highly doubt Im wrong.

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    4. Yes, we're all conspiring to create a horrid image of you . We email each other and talk about how we're going to throw specific insults at you. We talk about how we'll all call you a narcissistic delusional biddy.

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    5. Define "nothing", ukunt; anything you say will be a reflection of your own subjective bias. You're too fucking judgmental for a drug dealer, ya know that? And someday, it will be your demise. In your arrogance, you will fatally misjudge a person, and it will spell the end of you, mark my words.

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    6. Yes, we're all conspiring to create a horrid image of you . We email each other and talk about how we're going to throw specific insults at you

      What the fuck are you even talking about, kany?

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    7. Ukunt LOL
      Brings back fond memories

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    8. I won't mark any of your words, because you know nothing of my business and never will. You have no sage advice you fucking christian. Your whole life is playing it safe.

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    9. To the contrary, I know a lot about your business. My father and uncle were both heavily involved in it for years. That shit rubs off.

      If playing it safe equates with sublimating my risk taking propensities into more acceptable venues, what's it to you?

      If you end up *in* jail and I stay out of it, who's the idiot?

      Wanna play chess? :)

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    10. Lol. Too judgemental for a drug dealer? Oh my gosh, that's hilarious! Have you ever heard of a crack head?

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    11. To the contrary, I know a lot about your business. My father and uncle were both heavily involved in it for years. That shit rubs off.


      I knew someone who's brother knew someone who did something one time too. I know all about it.~

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    12. Yes, too judgmental. He overestimates himself, and underestimates others. One day, it will be his demise.

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    13. You are so wise Falter. You can even see the future.~

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    14. Ukan Be PrescientJune 30, 2012 at 1:59 AM

      Don't think you can be one up on me. I can see the future and it ain't what you think, you whore ~

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    15. I'm not trying to one-up you, I am trying to warn you. Take it or leave it.

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    16. One's uncle twice removed, does not his father make.

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    17. Warnings from you? You know what Falter I hear the same warnings from you as I do from every idiot that has no experience in my business. You people watch TV and think you know something about my life. Reality is you don't and your advice is utterly worthless.

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    18. Hahahaha! You know so much about his business. Maybe you can take my place as his confidant with all your understanding and knowledge of how he has to think. With your prowess in the game you can improve his business dramatically.

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    19. Surely. Im sure her father and uncle taught her everything she needs to know in the game.~

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    20. She could probably run her own weed business. She just won't because of her moral compass.

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    21. Yeah selling joints is drug dealing. She comes from a long line of gangsters.~

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    22. UnfortunatelH, he sold coke, crack, speed and LSD, in his day. He sells pot currently, but I don't even count that.

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    23. What a loser. This is the person you learned the game from? A demoted nobody who works his way down. Please, give me more advice you learned from your failure father.

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    24. I am not interested in his game, nor I am interested in yours.

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    25. I am, however, interested in chess. Wanna play?

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    26. We are already playing a game Falter.

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    27. I didn't think so. You lose, by default. :)

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    28. And I asked you if you wanted to play another one. But I actually have to sleep, now.

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    29. Good night. Give my best to your husband.

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    30. Ok. Good night.

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    31. although I did manage to salvage my academic record by manipulating my professors into changing my grades,

      So all those times you bragged about your academic performance, your anthropology degree, law school, you were telling us what you earned on your knees or bent over your professor's desk. hahaha

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  8. Why do you keep insinuating that I am trying to be a badass? Honestly now, did you read that into my comment because I lied about my grandmother dying?~

    Or am I supposed to be "ashamed" because I am not a badass?

    And it's a wonder you're still walking, with all the heroin you routinely stuff up your ass.

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    1. No I honestly don't remember anything about your dead grandmother and I don't care. You boast about your paltry life of petty crime and I just have to laugh at it.

      I've never shoved heroin up me arse. If you want to follow the ravings of Monica the Sucker so be it. You can join her in her retarded notions.

      Signed,
      James and Ciara

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    2. Thou doth protest too much, James

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    3. Methinks he doth. Write ciara.

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    4. You can assume I am James, if you are that stupid to follow that whore Monica. I put up my own wedding picture, but it was not me. It was the fake me, or an alien. Ciara just admitted all her relatives knew she had a drug dealer for a husband. I just spammed SW for days after James and Ciara came out, but I vociferously deny I am James. Can we close this stoopid thing, now.

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    5. I am james. What are you going to do about it?

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    6. Are you getting scared, Charles?

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    7. Nothing James, just don't be a fucking asshole K?

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  9. That was a facetious question, retard. And I'm not boasting about anything; that's your domain. And why shouldn't you? You're such a badass, selling drugs to the weak and spending their money on frivolous luxuries.

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    1. Yeah that's right. Hopefully I can wheel in some of your christian friends and have them backslide right back into my hands.

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  10. Good luck with that. I'm the weakest of the bunch, and I ain't too malleable in *your* hands, kunt.

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    1. Loerve loerve this line of thinking Ukunt and Dwayne lol

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    2. Dwayne? See, you're doing it again. You are proving my point as we speak. :) I only post as myself, Ukan.

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    3. If you were truly perspicacious, you would notice that I sometimes employ the asterix: *xXx*, as opposed to the / i tag. (Stav also did this.) Furthermore, you would have observed that I occasionally lapse into slang. When I do, "ain't" is my preferred expression. It would seem that you are not so clever, after all.

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    4. Clever enough to manipulate you constantly into making a fool out of yourself.

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    5. Who's making the fool of himself right now, ukunt?

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    6. Wrong again. I am not the one stupid enough to wrongly associate you with various false personas, whom you may be sure are currently laughing at your gross foolishness. I can't say I blame them. :)

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    7. It doesn't matter what's true Falter. You don't get it. It matter what you convince people to be true.

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    8. Oh, but it *does* matter, at least wherein I am concerned. I am only interested in those who can perceive the truth, anyway. :)

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    9. What matters to you doesn't matter to anyone else, because you are now widely percieved as a joke. Funny how that works, doesn't it Falter? I find a little weak spot and chip away. You collapse on yourself. Did you know that I almost line for line used the same game on several people that came before you?

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    10. What weak spot? And who the fuck cares? I am not interested in your validation or approval. In fact, I am currently enjoying myself very much, kunt. :)

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    11. I am not interested in your validation or approval.

      I cant tell.

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    12. By all means, delude your grandiose ass into believing I give a shit what you think, if it bolsters your fat ego. You're a peacock; all strut and no substance.

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    13. I'll admit im grandiose, but in this case we can't blame it on that. You did dedicate an entire thread to me. As well as at least 60% of your comments.

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    14. You just happen to be awake right now, asshole. I initially came here to offload shit I dont talk about anywhere else, but right now, I am here to spar with you. Does that surprise you, kunt? Are you enjoying yourself, badass?

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    15. Oh I didn't count this one, but thanks for adding another to the pile of threads you have dedicated to me in the forums most notably the one titled "Ukan".

      Yes, I am enjoying myself. Fucking with you is better than Angry Birds.

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    16. Yeah, I was drunk when I posted that, but every word of it was true. :)

      And I suppose fucking with you is better than messing with Facebook, for now.

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    17. But one thread does not a pile make, hoser.

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    18. Two threads by your words. Don't back track now. Should we dig around and see if there are more?

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  11. Do you know I have jumped over the backs of people bigger than your ass? Do you know my earners can beat your earners any day of the week. I beat the badasses down and now I am the main earner with my earner, that is.

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    1. My earners can earn your earners and make your earners earn more than they have ever earned before. That's how I earn earnie

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    2. Over and out ~

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    3. LOL shall I pour you another? :)

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    4. Make it a double. And stop being such a sucker that you think every ukan is me.

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    5. Uh, the fact that you have an icon makes it pretty clear, most of the time. But I wont pretend to always know when it's you. I am sure you are not above posting as anon, or a pseudonym.

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    6. Yes you never know. I could be anyone on here. I could be everyone on here Falter.

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    7. But I am not stupid enough to fall for your tricks, ukunt.

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    8. No, I haven't. You were wrong each and every time, asshole. More than once, you have accused me of skittering off and inventing some new identity. You have even accused me of impersonating you. You consistently misjudge and underestimate, and one day, it will be your demise.

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    9. No, you're right. Your reputation remains in tact.

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    10. You are far more concerned with my reputation here than I am, poptart.

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    11. Maybe. But today it's your demise. Karma just never comes my way so I just keep fucking people over.

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    12. Hey, Im concerned about your reputation too Falter. What do you think we can do to recover it?

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    13. My "demise"? How is that? Do you really think you will succeed in chasing me away, kunt?

      And even if you could, do you honestly think it would matter? I know you suffer from delusions of grandeur, but this is a fucking *blog*, retard.

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    14. Why would I chase you away when you are so much entertainment. David was a snack. You are lunch. I have to keep you here until dinner arrives.

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    15. We would never think you would leave before david did, ego. Of course you can take more shame than he ever could.

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    16. Don't you have enough on your plate with that bitch of a wife on it?

      I will come and go as I please.

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    17. What shame, poptart? How have you shamed me?

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    18. You will come when I tell you to. Like you did just today.

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    19. Hah! Good luck with that. :)

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    20. When someone calls your name.
      Well, I suppose shame is beneath you. But the rest of us benefit from your delusions. Don't worry.

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    21. I suppose that any time I post in the future, you will believe it is on account of something you said? How quaint. :)

      Medusa was right. You *do* feel a compulsive need to feel in control of every interaction here. It is cute, in a pathetic, self-deluded kind of way.

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    22. Hah! Good luck with that. :)
      You doubt me. I figured that. How about a recent example.

      You know I had the feeling you were somewhere in the woodwork so I decided to start putting you out there so you would pop out. We should go back and look at the times because I forgot how many minutes it took for you to fal for it, but it was at least two comments later. You are like the genie in the bottle when Im bored and have nobody else to pick on. I rub you and I get three wishes before you disappear in embarrassment. I know how to bring you out of the hole. And I know how to knock you back in. This is just a game for me Falter. You are nothing but a pop up mole and Im just trying to get tickets to buy a pair of roller skates.

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    23. HAH what a perfectly narcissistic and deluded assessment! How have you "knocked me back into the hole", specifically?

      So you were only *pretending* to accuse me of goading you on, when all along you knew it was someone else, just so that would "pop out of the hole" and call you on your bullshit, yet again?

      Wow, how very impressive. You're clearly at the top of your game. ~

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    24. You deny it worked? Look at your response. It's 50 pages long. I actually became aware at that moment why you were the only one that was so frequently effected by the spam filter.

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    25. I am not denying it worked: I only ever post as alterego on principle, and I can get a bit worked up about my principles, albeit temporarily, and briefly.

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    26. ukan's people come to him when he tells them to because he make them up in his head. he like the multiple personality old lady who waits in the commutation train i take. she sit there all day talking to herself,

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  12. I will respond when someone calls my name if and when it suits me. As I recall, you have 'called my name" on several occasions. Only rarely do I accord you the dignity of a response.

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    1. You only respond when we call you a name. Which is every time we mention you. See how that correlates. Usually you respond with an essay about how you're baring you're soul here, you don't care what we think, and you just come to be honest. You don't have anything to prove but we're wrong about you on the following points.

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    2. I only respond when I am interested and or sufficiently provoked. You rarely have that effect upon me, poptart. Your husband is more of a challenge. I don't see the two of you as a single entity.

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    3. only respond when I am...sufficiently provoked.

      There you have it folks. Whenever bored use above formula.

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    4. You respond to every jot and tittle, kunt; who are you to judge anyone else's posting habits?

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    5. Do you need to be someone to make a judgement?

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    6. When I'm not abandoning the blog altogether.

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  13. UKan, thanks for showing mee, how foolish this kind of behaviour looks from a distance (one, that alter is doing).

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    1. Atleast I'm not stupid enough to fight back, because I don't really care about people opinion, I only want to provoke them into talking :)

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  14. Socio take HUGE risks for almost zero reward, they truly are idiots.

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    1. I know, and I do it too, but a person can only be called an idiot, if s/he fail to get that reward s/he wanted to get. And there are things that aren't worthy to risk anything.

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  15. AlteregoJune 30, 2012 2:47 AM

    Don't you have enough on your plate with that bitch of a wife on it?

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  16. Dr Eric Fomentile PhDJune 30, 2012 at 5:58 AM

    I see your had one of your periodic altercations. SW has been quiet, of late. The Forum seems to hold the rascals, while the big people talk, downstairs ha ha

    At any rate, I come with a purpose. One of your denizens asked a question which I thought was worth taking time from my Saturday( at the Jag dealer) to answer. The question was "Why would Monica come to SW when it is filled with people who will humiliate her?" I endeavor to answer, and in doing so, hope to offer answers to others who will relate to the complex mechanism which I will explain. It is the defense mechanism of Splitting. Eden, feel free to take any of my big words and put them in your theo. We, shrinks, do talk in a puffed up way ha ha

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    1. Dr Eric Fomentile PhDJune 30, 2012 at 6:02 AM

      There are some defense mechanisms which are more subconscious than others. Reaction Formation and Splitting are two that fall in this category. SW is full of both. I hope to offer some assistance to all of you, as you will see both in play as you watch the interactions between you.

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    2. Dr Eric Foemtile PhDJune 30, 2012 at 6:05 AM

      Splitting is when a person "splits" off a part of himself. It could be any part on the whole personality spectrum. I will confine myself to two of the prevalent ways people split on SW.

      Many of the denizens split off the weak part of themselves. Monica( and "victims") splits off the strong part of herself. At any rate, both groups i.e the weak and the strong are both Splitting

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    3. Dr Eric Fomentile PhDJune 30, 2012 at 6:07 AM

      The problem with Splitting comes in that it does not work. If one could split parts of themselves off with NO ensuing consequences, that would be one thing, but there are events that happen in the lives of people that are a direct result of the splitting.

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    4. Dr Eric Fomentile PhDJune 30, 2012 at 6:10 AM

      To make it really simple, a person who has split off the weak parts of himself such as his vulnerability will hate it when he sees it in others. He will jump on it when he sees another person being weak. I hate to name names but UKan is a perfect example of this, as are many of the little rascals on the Forum.

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    5. Dr Eric FomentileJune 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM

      Monica has split off the strong part of herself, so she is looking to find that. UKan needs to find the weak part of himself for him to be whole and not delusional, as he, obviously, is. However, he does not have a good prognosis, to my trained eye.

      Monica, on the other hand, is forcing herself to pull on her inherent strength by going to the very people she was forced to live with i.e. an abusive mother.

      Good work, Monica.
      At any rate, any splitting can only be healed by forcing oneself to go to the hated place within oneself. With Monica, it is her victimhood. With UKan, it is his abusiveness.

      They are both opposite sides of the same coin, Folks. They are equally dysfunctional. They are equally sick, if you want to say that. They just manifest differently, at the tip of the iceberg.

      Below the surface, you have the same mess, Friends.

      Well, Saturday calls. I hope I have been of service.
      Thank you ME for allowing me to be a part of your fine blog.
      Over and Out
      Dr Eric Fomentile PhD (Oxford)

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    6. ^Gee, Doc, you use the same terminology as Monica.
      Do people really swallow this?

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    7. No way is that Monica. What are you fucking stupid?

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    8. Let me say that this little Rascal is not impressed.

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    9. You fucking people. You see conspiracy everywhere. Can't a damn zebra be a zebra? WTF?

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    10. Monica is not that fucking smart, either.

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    11. That person sounds like a shrink. WTF?

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    12. You protest to hard. And no I don't consider this
      so called Dr. intelligent.

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    13. It's you, Monica, without the gutter words.

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    14. Interesting. So, you think this shrink is Monica? Why?

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    15. "They are both opposite sides of the same coin, Folks. They are equally dysfunctional. They are equally sick, if you want to say that. They just manifest differently, at the tip of the iceberg."

      What an interesting thing to say, Eric. Your brother Frank seemed to think Monica was perfectly stable.
      Now, you're contradicting his assessment by saying she is equally as "sick" as UKan?

      Why do you bother trying, Monica? You can't hide. You don't have the talent,and you're too predictable. You do this every single time I expose your delusions for what they really are.

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    16. Crazy theory, Eden. But, who knows?

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    17. "I see you had one of your periodic altercations. SW
      has been quiet, of late."

      Really, when was this written? Quiet? LOL

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    18. You must have worked on this essay really hard too. Not as hard as you worked on that 4 page essay you did, trying to "diagnose" me. Tell me something Doctor Monica, is it common practice for shrinks to come on a blog, and lie about someone asking them to diagnose them in public?

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    19. Stoopid theory, Eden.

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    20. You are the best one on here, Eden. If you say something, we believe it. We are on your side.

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    21. Shut up, Snake. Eden knows what she is talking about. Don't diss her like that. I think it is Monica, too.

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    22. Sorry, Hank. I will listen to Eden, from now on. You are right about her. She has one of the highest IQs of anyone on here. She is as smart as Post. I am sorry.

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    23. Monica is Snake post and Ze-Ze, also

      I love your 8:40 post you were seething.

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    24. Fuck, this is confusing. Eden could fuck up a wet dream.

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    25. Is it true that you envy me, Monica? It must have stung when Ell pointed that out yesterday, yeah?

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    26. Ok Eden
      I will tell you what I admire about you and what I don't. I will continue as I think of more.
      Admire
      Pulled yourself up and made a profession for yourself. You made your own business, at which you are successful

      Don't admire
      Are not an independent thinker

      Admire
      You are not afraid of life

      Don't admire
      You show your sexuality, but not your heart and soul. I find this to be sad.

      Admire
      You seem to love your children

      Don't Admire
      I don't think you have good sense with them and expose them to things which will hurt their innocence( and don't seem to realize it)

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    27. Ok Monica, and I will point to the things that are delusional, because it's what you need to believe, not because it's true.

      Example Number One: Don't admire
      Are not an independent thinker

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    28. P.S. Love how you're not willing to give full credit about my love for my children by saying "seem to".
      Why would you admire someone for "seeming" to love their children?

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    29. What is Independent Thinking?

      The Oxford Unabridged Dictionary offers many definitions of "independent," including "not depending on the authority of others" and "not dependent on others for forming an opinion." Making up your own mind, in other words. But what does that really mean? Does it mean forming an opinion without input from others? No, of course not, otherwise we "reinvent the wheel" every time we make a decision. We all need relevant information and data on which to base our opinions. It's the way that we seek information and how we apply it that makes us dependent or independent thinkers. If we uncritically accept whatever values or ideas we've been taught by parents, teachers or church, never questioning these ideas or asking ourselves if these ideas really make sense, then we are dependent thinkers (even if the ideas are true!).

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    30. Ok Here is what I mean by independent thinker. It is someone who can stand up and be who he is, from his gut and sense of self. UKan can do this, although he is delusional. He will stand up and be who he is. That is an independent thinker, to me. I don't like Ukan or admire much about him, but I do admire this about him. I admire some other things, too, but there are plenty of things I don't.

      I think Post is an independent thinker. I think Haven is, I think. I don't know her that well. She seems to be.


      Medusa is, a great deal of the time, not all. It is hard to be one all the time.
      Alter ego is an independent thinker, too, although her thinking process can be fuzzy, sometimes when she tries to answer people who are just trying to fuck with her, and doesn't realize it.

      There are degrees of it, but I see you as low on this, Eden.

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    31. Tell me why that is Monica. Give me hard evidence of my dependent thinking. You are so desperate to believe this about me... I want to see you prove it. You might want to bust out some quotes of mine that prove it too.

      Tell me who I've been depending on my whole life to think for me.

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    32. Your debating skills suck, and could use some serious improvement, so I'm not going to make this easy for you. I want you to brake me down in as much detail as you can muster.

      I really want you to pull a strong case on this one because it is my strong belief that you only say I can't think for myself to devalue me. Not because it's the truth.

      And when you're done, I will give you my rebuttal. Because I also believe I have strong evidence to that will contradict your claim that I show very low degrees of Independence thought.

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    33. I also think that you say I don't have independent thought in order to cancel out all those so-called things you admire about me.

      The street kid that pulled herself up out of homelessness, to go on to successfully own her own business, and financially support two children on her own, BUT not because she can think for herself.

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    34. I just lost my post. I have to go out :D
      I will post, later.

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    35. Right... you have to go out just when I challenged you to do a better job of staking your claim. How convenient. Like always.

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    36. I have to take a shower and go out and I want to express it right. It is rooted in your not knowing your own emotions, enough, so people can lead you. I really do have to go and I want to approach this thoughtfully, too xx

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    37. Bullshit, you're running away, and you don't know the first thing about what is deeply rooted in me. You can't even see your own fucking self. When you come back, you're just going to repeat the same weak statements that you always repeat, because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

      All you know is: Monica wants to lead EVERY group she's in, and Eden won't submit to her.

      You won't make me your follower by trying to convince me that I can't think for myself, Monica. That shit s=doesn't work on me.

      My father started trying to get me to believe that I had a very bad memory, and that I block out traumatizing experiences. He repeated that to me often, from the time I was 3. Didn't seem to work out for him did it?

      And it's not going to work for me either. You won't be able to control me, Monica. Not ever. You are not the leader in this group. You should probably leave.

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    38. I'll say that again. You are not a leader here.

      How does that make you feel?

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    39. How does it feel not to be able to manipulate an entire group of people into sympathizing with you? Especially the woman you envy.

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    40. It is your black and white thinking that is preventing you from seeing the truth here. You HAVE to see thing on terms of leader vs. followers. Everything has to be an absolute.

      Were you up in the forum when absolutely everyone here was basically telling me that I was an idiot to believe in the benefits of fasting? That includes UKan, who you claim I follow. I stood my ground, and still firmly believe that it works. No one one can deter me from that... not matter how much scientific evidence they stack up against me.

      That's how much I believe in my own life experience.

      I know you were there because you keep track of me everything I do on this blog, don't you?

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    41. This is what you do in your interactions with Raven, Monica. Exactly what you said 'spot on' to the other day. Exactly what your mother did with you.

      "... they destroy the ‘object’ that elicits these emotions.

      * A damaged object diminishes envy since the object no longer has qualities worth possessing. .."

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    42. And I will add that I admire Raven. I don't feel the need to pick apart her character to decide if there are flaws in there that should get the big red X next to them along with the few ticks she has earned.

      You try to devalue her constantly because you admire her too. The envy fuels what is almost an obsession. You bring her name up almost every day. No one does that with someone they have dismissed as white trash.

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    43. "Admire
      You are not afraid of life"

      I think this says it all. This is what she envies most.

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    44. And I will add that I admire Raven. I don't feel the need to pick apart her character to decide if there are flaws in there that should get the big red X next to them along with the few ticks she has earned.

      You try to devalue her constantly because you admire her too. The envy fuels what is almost an obsession. You bring her name up almost every day. No one does that with someone they have dismissed as white trash.

      (and yes, this is Ellicit. My fucking Google is suspended again)

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    45. How did your Google account get suspended?

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    46. I don't know. It comes up as suspended due to 'unusual activity'. Just like last time it followed a pattern of my comments showing as published then disappearing. The previous Ellicit account I only ever used here.

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    47. Eden, I want to punch you in the face because you are so defensive when I am trying to answer your question, but I will force myself not to react, in kind.
      Yes, you can stand up about the fasting. You can stand up when you KNOW your own mind. However, you don't know your own mind/emotions enough so a loser like Kany who has the sense of a fucking flat tire, can wind you around her finger.

      You have to know your own emotions or you will need a "stronger" person to give you marching orders.

      Tonight is date night, I have to go :D

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    48. That was weak and you know it. You Will never be able to prove your theory that I don't have a mind of my own, Monica. Because it's not true. And you're jealousy over MK, or UKan, or anyone else I have a lot of fun with one here, is not change the truth.

      Now you're saying I don't know my own emotions? How can you possibly know that? So now you're dismissing my prove because you disapprove of my choice in company.

      Monica that isn't proof at all. So you don't like who I hang out with on SW, how does that prove I can't think for myself.

      Try again.

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    49. "You have to know your own emotions or you will need a "stronger" person to give you marching orders."

      What the fuck is this about? Another devalue?
      Not only do you want to believe I can't think for myself, but you want to slip in that I'm not as strong as everyone else here?

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    50. She'll be choosing your favorite colour for you next.

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    51. I think we can put this to bed. Nothing else you could possibly come up with will be based on fact.
      You aren't capable of putting up a descent argument to prove your case against me.

      You envy me Monica. Plain and simple. Nothing you say will change the truth about me. I am a very independent thinker. It's what saved my life, while you still remain trapped in your victim hood. I am also very strong. There isn't a person who can come from what I have, and end up where I am, without a strong mind and will.

      So you go on and suffer your envy of me, Monica. No matter how much you try to devalue me in your mind, it won't save you from that narcissistic trap you're in.

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    52. "EllicitJune 30, 2012 4:32 PM
      She'll be choosing your favorite colour for you next."

      hahaha! Good one.

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  17. UKan gives off an impression of a malignant narcissist. He makes up truly pathetic excuses for attacking people, for his own fun,ha! From what I've seen he attempts to tear people down whenever they don't agree with him, vindicative, childish and petty revenge. He has to be the omnipresent figure controlling everything, and pulling all the strings. Whoever doesn't fit his 'agenda', or is some kind of threat, gets immediately verbally assaulted and is subject to attempts of discreditation, any form of it. You seem so proud of being a sociopath, have to tell about all the mischief you caused and how destructive you were. Almost as if you need to prove you're one. Look at your job choice, you love seeing people getting hooked, it earns you money you say, but it also gives you the satisfaction of feeling superior to them. So much projection, so many posts, you have to be seen and heard, Big Brother of SW.

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    1. UKan can be anything, just like Mee or any other undiagnosed person here, he adopted a disorder, that, according to him, describes him...

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    2. God Complex much Ukant?

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    3. He's just another cunt.

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  18. What about the mention of tom cruise in that article? He seems like a socio

    "He comes across as a guy who’s battling to be normal, like he’s from another planet, and he’s studying guys and saying, “What would a guy do in this situation?” Then he mimics the behavior of an American male in front of other American males. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, but he comes across as uncomfortable in his own skin."

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  19. Themes for SW Regulars
    Multiple Orgasm Series because it fits so well

    Theme Song for UKan Number 2

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    1. Themes how come none of your shite has a link?

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    2. Click on the name UKan. I just tried it. It works

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    3. Not the brightest, is he...

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  20. This is not posting. Excuse me, if it posted 3 times

    Theme Song for Monica no 3

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  21. Charles and Julie Ann Valliday

    UKan and his wife.

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    1. Time to leave now UKan and never come again.

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    2. If you keep posting, I'll give people more informations about you

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    3. hahaha! You are such a stupid twat. You have no clue who they are. You're trying to find a needle in a haystack!

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    4. Go ahead. Post everything you've found you dunce.

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  22. I like mask of sanity too. Well, sociopaths are pretty daring and reckless in some ways generally right? That's just happening regardless of "level of success"?

    "Maybe they don't like success because it means they have more to lose, and so less freedom in a way"

    But don't sociopaths quite like success? The whole winning thing? To create some effective mask and to get what they want. You call sociopaths "they", but don't you identify as one ME?

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