Thursday, May 16, 2013

Book appendix (part 3)

From an interview with a friend:


I like talking to you because you are like a stockpile of knowledge with the capability to process important components of that knowledge and to assimilate them into an intelligent decision—the best decision.  Whereas I feel like I might fall on to decision that is fourth best, even though I have been exposed to the same data.  But I have forgotten that information in the meantime, and am unable to pull it forward when the time to make the decision arises.  And you even take into account my personal preferences.  I don’t know how, I guess because you know me now.  But something I find very humorous is that when I start explaining emotionally frustrating things to you, maybe about my marriage, and you’ll say “That’s because he __________” and I am always wondering why you have so much insight into my emotional life.  Insight that I didn’t have—like I am still hashing through the ideas emotionally and haven’t been able to reach any conclusion, but you have been able to reach a conclusion by just listening to me for a minute.  Sometimes I discount your conclusions, I will be honest.  At those times I generally conclude that you didn’t input the right information.  Other times I will be surprised at how spot on you are.  It seems like you know my husband better than I know him. I’m always surprised with your assessments of people, because you can kind of sum them up, taking this vast amount of data—a person—and you break it down into the important bits for that output.  You tell me, “well of course that is what happened because of these few things.”  

Also, you’re blatantly honest.  At first I was scared and there were moments in this house in which I was afraid that you would provoke fights in social situations. Then I started finding the humor in it.  Now sometimes I will use it to find out things I really want to know by just asking you, although I can still get angry at some of the things you say.  Overall, though, it is refreshing, and I have a much harder time getting offended at anything you say than I used to.  Even now telling you these things, it’s odd because I think now you will understand me so much better and when I come to you with another emotional problem you will say, “Oh, it’s because of this,” or “something something something” and I will feel ok.  

When I come to you with an emotional problem though, I don’t feel like you give empathy or emotional support.  Sometimes you will say, “that’s just because your husband's a retard, sorry.”  So maybe that is empathy.  Maybe it is refreshing to hear that it comes down to something that isn’t emotional—that my problems aren’t fundamentally an emotional issue, but something separate that can be intellectualized.  It takes out the sting in the hurt.  

I remember one time you were talking to me in the car and you said something like, “I don’t think I want to marry a guy who is as intelligent as me.”  And I asked you, “someone more like me.”  You said “no, not really.”  And I thought, oh ok, smarter than me then.  

I think you’re a better computer than I am.  If you had learned all of the stuff that I learned in college, I think you could do so much better with it than I can.  But that’s alright, I supposed I have other skills.  You’re like a data processor, but better because you can also process emotional inputs.  You can’t ask Google why my husband did something.  It’s like the best thing—kind of like a fun toy.

64 comments:

  1. You are a blonde tan and chunky looking piece of meat, are you sure not from Jersey?

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  2. Based on this alone, I don't think ME could possibly be a psychopath. The ones I have known hog all the airtime to talk about themselves and analyse their problems. One long blah blah.

    So ME, if you're on hand to talk to your friends about their husbands, slice and dice everyday situations, you're not a psychopath. Must be a mis-diagnosis.

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  3. You are so full of yourself!

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  4. I like the comment from Dr Phil when ME says she wants to demystify sociopaths. "They're not really mystic to me, they're just users and abusers." Ha! Talk about deglamorizing their BS.

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    1. LOL I saw that too!!!!! He calls the BAITER'S for Backstabbers, Abusers, Imposters, Takers, Exploiters, and Reckless people.

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  5. :) Good Morning Sociopathworld!!!!

    Monica I agree with you, M.E. is a hottie! I'd marry her!!!!! LOL

    PS- To the Anon who asked me this : "There is this one guy/lady on youtube who posts like EVERY new Dr.Phil show"

    There are a couple of them but heres how to get the most episode, just simply go to youtube and type the capital letters "DRPH" (for Dr.Phil) that is how most of the people title the beginning of each episode......... Iam not sure if M.E's will be on there yet cause it just aired yesterday, but it should be there shortly ;)

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    1. Look at this link at the second box down and you can scroll and see 2 pictures of M.E. as she appeared on Dr.Phil HOTTIE!!!! The first box has a short clip of her on there too :)

      http://drphil.com/shows/show/2035/

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    2. Thank you Rich, Sweetie
      I am so glad you are back!

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    3. Thank you Monica, and Iam very GLAD to be back :)

      Man I just took a crazy rock solid nap after that job interview I had a little alcohol (Not gin or liquor, I learned from my mistake that time they locked me in the Psych Ward, LOL) and just fell into a comalike sleep!

      :)

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  6. I was quite disappointed when ME parroted the ole 'that's a good question' to Dr Phil. I expected a little subtlety but one look at her get-up should have spelt obvious all the way. Ah well.

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  7. People probably appreciate your perspective because you approach problems so differently. Most people that listen to other peoples' personal problems offer sympathy, comfort, support, and camaraderie. You, however, see peoples' problems for what they are, problems. Puzzles to solve. They will not get your insight from any other source, because you are unique in your ability to provide it.

    And they never really stop, do they? They always come to you for help, for your perspective, because even spending so much time around you, they'll never acquire your point of view.

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  8. http://www.drphil.com/assets/d/d3a36668b6246de03abde05faabdb4e0.jpg

    Look at that pretty face

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    1. She is really ugly. And she is what? 40? A myth has fallen...

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    2. She's gorgeous. She's the queen of all beauty. She's beauty itself. Along with Ellicit.

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    3. I agree with you Ellicit, M.E. is hot!!!!! Hi BTW, I haven't seen you since Ive been back! Hope you have been doing well :)

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    4. Rich
      Have you seen the dental assistant again^^

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    5. Hey Monica!!! LOL
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      I miss her though :( No I never was able to go back after they handed me a bill that said it would cost me $2,500 OUT OF POCKET including myinsurance paying to fix my teeth :(

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  9. ok, M.E. besides being a sociopath, you are also intelligent and can't understand cues that a more stupid person can. Nothing to do with being a sociopath but with intelligence. Meet a retarded sociopath sometimes... Being honest is not a very sociopathic trait. I am glad you are like that with friends, but again it has no connection with being a sociopath. And it is good to be married to an equally intelligent man, they don't act like retarded, they also analyse well reality, but don't choose a sociopath, that evilness will screw it all, unless you screw it before.

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    1. I meant 'can - can't' in the first sentence, sorry.

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    2. @707
      Was it more intelligent, or equally?

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    3. Are you stupid, or is English a foreign language to you? I've always wondered what it would be like to be stupid. Maybe you can enlighten me?

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    4. why so angry, andy? :(

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    5. did ME say she wanted a husband equally intelligent, or more intelligent than she?

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    6. I just felt like being an asshole :)

      Gotta get it out of my system somehow.

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    7. good to know, Andy, you sweet thang.

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  10. You are lucky to be a lawyer; being a sociopath is even well seen.

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    1. Sociopaths do not make good lawyers, most of them don't have the staying power. You've been misinformed.

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    2. Depends if they want to win. The might be good lawyers for good rewards.

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    3. Hey, lawyers get paid whether they win or lose. You watch too much TV!

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  11. I think Dr. Phil went into that show planning to be an ass. I heard M.E.'s subtle accent from the beginning, and Dr. Phil is a moron if he did not. Of course, he did hear it, but it is very easy to tear into something so subtle, and he certainly did not have her on the show to be nice to her. For what it is worth, M.E., I think the accent is a very nice touch--probably one of the most positive things you displayed for us and definitely enough to subtly alter perceptions.

    Beyond that, I have nothing nice to say. He picked up on a lot of the things I used to rag on you for, and he laid it bare on national television. Asshole or not, Phil's evil magicks blasted through your super sociopath powers like a red-hot cattle brand through a wax IUD. For the first time ever, I think you actually have my pity.

    Bravo.

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    1. He is an adept NT with many years of experience and who looked like pretty bored by users and abusers self-believe of grandiosity. He was more interesting to observe than her. She looked very stiff and disquieted, swallowing saliva, forcing a pose. He took all credit from her in a very nice subtle way. He almost looked like the true sociopath! X-D

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    2. Pan, you are an idiot. It's entertainment television you boob. Of course Dr Phil goes out there with the intentions of being an ass. If he can't "help" someone, he trolls them and tears them apart. How was he going to help a self proclaimed sociopath who isn't a sociopath but a flaked out narc. Get real Pan. Grow up.

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    3. I have absolutely no problem admitting you're more familiar with the antics of American talk show hosts than I am. But if it's all the same to you, I would rather not "grow up" and get my education in that particular field. You can keep the pride of that achievement all to yourself.

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  12. What accent? All I could hear was lower-middle class Yank. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    I doubt ME cares too much what Dr Phil thought of her. She went on that show to generate publicity for her book. Mission accomplished.

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    1. I cannot correct you, because I cannot place it. But the subtle nuances of her speech do not jive with any natural American I have ever spoken to or seen on television. I suppose there could be a whole swath of people in Alabama or Arkansas too hideous and stupid to spread or get any air time, but I doubt it.

      Strictly speaking, M.E. may not care what Dr. Phil thinks, but she did care very much how she was presented on national television. If you look closely, you can almost see something die inside of her while he talks. That is not the look of someone who does not give a shit.

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    2. I did notice that she had a unique way of saying sociopath, like she was savoring it.

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    3. Is the show anywhere online?

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    4. Yes, she died on her feet. Dr Phil was withering in his dismissal. I guess that's why psychopaths generally keep it a secret. Most people don't give a sh*t, they just regard them as puffed-up assh*les. She didn't interest him.

      Yeah sociopath... ME seems attached to that label. Why, for instance, does she not call herself a psychopath?

      I'm not American so I can't comment on the accent. I'd have thought though if you're going to put on an accent, you'd go for something more upmarket than that?

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  13. i dont know why people say me isnt a sociopath. many of the sociopaths i met are not particularly good liars or actors, they just catch people by surprise, target the weakest individuals, and relentlessly change tactics or stories until they find one that works. her weak performance seems rather typical for a sociopath who thinks she stands to gain something from claiming to be a sociopath, including the ridiculous talk about killing etc. just one more part in her shitty act of pretending to be what she imagines people see as sociopathic.

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  14. ME gets a mention in The New Yorker:

    Identity—psychological in one case, cultural in another—is also the subject of two of the more surprising articles I encountered this week, Psychology Today’s “Confessions of a Sociopath” and Grantland’s “Hard Knocks: Shanghai.” The former is, or at least appears to be, what it claims to be, as the writer’s bio suggests: “Diagnosed sociopath M.E. Thomas,” her pseudonym, “is an author, law professor, and founder of sociopathworld.com.” “I have never killed anyone, but I have certainly wanted to,” begins the piece, whose pleasures stem more from voyeurism and a lurking sense of unreliable narration than from writerly polish or nuance, of which there isn’t much.

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/05/weekend-reading-earl-sweatshirts-comeback-a-sociopaths-diary-seal-killers.html

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  15. Has nobody considered the possibility that if ME wants to remain anonymous, the person on Dr Phil may have been a stand in, a stooge, an actor?
    Somebody who has always claimed to be a smart manipulator who protects their identity with a nom-de-plume, suddenly appears on tv going "Hi, here I am." and everybody takes it at face value?
    Come on, we don't even use our real names on this blog.

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    1. The possibility is there. It wasn't an actress. That IS me. She is a natural brunette, but that big ass grin is unmistakable. And hey there Pan, her accent is that of a neutral english speaking american. The kind you find on news channels. Come to think of it, she has a lot in common with "talking heads".

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    2. You think Dr Phil would let a stooge on his show? She would have been well checked out by his researchers in advance. That was ME alright.

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    3. Shut up your fucking liberal Nazi mouth.
      Her accent is not American.

      It is foreign, exotic, and very intriguing.

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    4. Exotic maybe if you're from Milwaukee.

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    5. Given M.E makes six figures (if that's even true) she would easily hooked another sociopath onto her little scheme.. Or atleast narcissist.

      When i saw 'her' on the show i didn't doubt that it was her, and whether it is her or not i do not doubt that the person appearing on the show has some severe issues, considering sociopathy as one.

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  16. This blog really made me feel cool and love myself. And then watching her up there was like watching myself from someone elses perspective, and I didn't like what I saw... ME i hope you can bring yourself to turn this blog into more of a how can we grow out of being this way guide.

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    1. There's no way out of it. You're trapped in hell. Why I don't know, it seems so unfair.

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  17. is anyone feel let down by the dr phil thing?
    I may have to pretend that interview does not exist for me to keep reading here. Does anyone feel that way?

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    1. can you say why?

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    2. Can't you think for yourself?

      Take it with a grain of salt.

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    3. I feel the same way buddy.

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    4. @ "can i think for myself" are you talking to me, anon 928 ?

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  18. AnonymousMay 15, 2013 at 6:40 PM
    My armchair diagnosis? Borderline Personality disorder. She is lying if her lips are moving, she fantasizes about what is wrong with her.... Anything for attention. A sociopath has no ability to feel for another, clearly she does

    This is from a few posts back. Why didn't the poster put it here, directly after dr phil show?

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  19. Another reason I don't believe ME is a psycho - the fact that she allows the comments here to be unmoderated. A true psycho would want to control that, and run one of those boring blogs with only gushing comments allowed.

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    1. Butterfly EmpathMay 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      If she wants us to believe she doesn't have feelings or a conscience, she wouldn't bother moderating the comments.

      But I have noticed a few deleted ones, so that doesn't REALLY match up either.

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  20. I disagree. I think a true socio, couldn't care less.

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  21. Actually, I agree with Anonymous May 16, at 9:57 pm. She exibits the main traits: Self-mutilation, like you said, constant attention seeking, destroy's relationships, highly manipulative, are some of the majors. Maybe she's a self proclaimed sociopath? And for attention says she was diagnosed? Also, she smiles like Jack Nickleson when he played the joker. That was the ONLY creepy thing about her. Personally, I'm more of a sociopath than she is, (and I"m not one, because I feel).

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