Monday, February 4, 2013

Lance Armstrong and keeping secrets

People think he's a sociopath. I don't know, I just don't get the vibe from him. But I did relate to him in another way. I also have a secret that I keep from almost everybody, even people I genuinely like or even admire. For various reasons, I have been contemplating telling more people about me (not something I generally recommend, but they're probably going to find out from third parties and it seems like it's better if it comes from me).

I was reading an interview of Matthew McConaughey of all people, weighing in on the Lance Armstrong admissions and how it felt to be lied to:




"My first reaction was I was pissed off," he said, explaining that he wanted to be "delicate" in how he addressed the scandal. "I was mad. I then got kind of sad for him. First off, I had a part of me that took it kind of personally, which I think a lot of people have."

"For him, it was impersonal because he was living a lie," McConaughey added. "It was a whole unanimous facade he had to carry around."
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"What I realized is that those of us that took that personally, like, 'Oh, he lied to me,' it's not true," said McConaughey. . . . "What I mean by this is, what was he supposed to do? Call me to the side and go, 'Hey man, I did it but don't tell anybody.' Then I would have really had a reason to be pissed off at him, going, 'You want me to walk around holding this?'"

First of all, unanimous facade? That makes no kind of sense. But it's a good attitude to have. The thing is, yes, I've done horrible things to people or good things to people with horrible motivations. I'm not a good person. I don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt. But it's also true what McConaughey said -- it's (almost) never personal.

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    1. Are you now. What kind of crimes do you commit?

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    2. I keep secrets ;)

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  2. It wasn't the lying that made me think he was a sociopath. It's was the whole package. He didn't just lie he created his own little cult and he bullied the people who didn't tow the line or said anything sideways about him. He took doping to a whole other level making hotel rooms into transfusion centers for his team pressuring them to dope as well.

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  3. When you are having orgasm, you should not care about the consequences...and Lance had about the best orgasm in the World!

    He would secretely sh*g himself to this joke!

    Hahahaha !!

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  4. I think he's a typical malignant narcissist, like this guy.

    Lance had a false self (the cancer survivor who beats everyone).

    Lance had an inverted moral compass. Cheating was good. He bullied guys to get them to do it.


    He was (is) totally self-deceived about the bad stuff he did. Among other things, the fact that he had a team of guys and did make some sacrifices for them convinces him that he's not an amoral sociopath. But he also knows he's a ruthless guy to his enemies (and he's proud of it). Bernie Madoff seems to think/feel along similar lines.


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    1. I think malignant narcissism is essential for the psychopath to commit harm.

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    2. I dont think he is at the level of a Sociopath/Psychopath. BUT, he is most DEFINATLY a HIGH-LEVEL Narcissist, you can just tell in his interviews and how he carries himself.

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    3. I disagree. I believe he is a psychopath which includes narcissism.

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    4. UKan's post describes a psychopath. Armstrong did not give a shite.

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    5. He was (is) totally self-deceived about the bad stuff he did.

      He knows exactly what he did. This guy wasn't sneaking around doping in the back bathroom nobody uses before the game. He was rigging up entire hotel rooms brazenly doping not only himself, but others. He threatened people who informed on him. He pressured new team mates to dope, so that they would be more willing to stay silent. In one case he had somehow convinced this old lady to leave threats on this guy's voicemail who was throwing Armstrong's dirty linen on the street.

      Just read this article

      Only a psychopath can turn a bicycle team into something resembling organized crime.

      People like to throw around narcissist a lot here. You have to remember that psychopaths are as narcissistic as you can get. This guy wasn't making up stories about something extreme. He was out there doing something extreme and he had no shame in his game.

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    6. UKan -- He's self-deceived in the sense that

      1) He blames the competition for forcing him to dope.

      2) Destiny picked him to be the king of dope. It fell to him to create a USA team that could dope and do better than the competition.

      3) He didn't do anything bad, but at the same time, he's a hero for cheating so incredibly skillful.

      Basically, he did nothing wrong. It was all forced on him. If anything, you should admire him for doing such a great job of cheating.

      You can label it (psychopathic, narcissist, etc) -- but he's basically in the organized crime mold, the ringleader mold, etc. -- which is why I provided a link to Steve Raucci. A fictional character like Lance Armstrong is Walter White (Breaking Bad).

      The un-self-deceived way to do what Lance did: I'm going to cheat because I want to. I'm going to build a kick-ass team of cheaters because that will be good for me. I'm breaking all the rules, but so what; what other people think doesn't matter to me.

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    7. He got high and decided to take over the world.

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    8. Anon 2:08

      You got high and decided to post? UKan's post was much more informative and correct.........

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    9. Okay Pinky, good for you.

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    10. All the celebrity narcs come out to write a book on how they got too arrogant, power hungry, entitled. So they can reinvent themselves.

      The cunning will make you believe they were self-deceived to gain sympathy from you.

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  5. :) Good Morning My Sociopathworld Friends!!!!!!!!

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  6. Yeah what I do to other people to further my wants is never personal. It just is what it is

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    1. What about when it's family or close friends that bear the fallout from what you do, is it personal then?

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    2. I would never expose my motives.. It's quiet manipulation. I make sure it's easy to cover up.

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    3. How do you make sure your crimes and ruining people are easily covered up? Surely it's impossible if you're doing things like that and profiting from it. Your motives will become apparent by virtue of repetition, won't they?

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    4. That's not an answer. Do you think anyone's impressed by your posturing?

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    5. " Crimes? Haha"

      My mistake. I thought I saw you referring to yourself as a sociopath.

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    6. Well i am a sociopath but i dont commit crimes or break the law. And I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm just saying it like it is for me.
      I also don't "ruin people" as you put it. Simply everything I do is because it serves me in some way. I do things because they either benefit me materialistically or "emotionally" you could say. Sometimes I do things for people because it furthers my wants or it's a set up for the future. I like to create positive relationships in case I ever need something from them. Other times I'll just have something I want, it could be a material item i want my parents to buy for me or even just an emotional response i want from someone. For these things I will manipulate the people. Subtly. My motives are never "exposed by virtue of repetition" because I'm very careful about it.

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    7. " i am a sociopath but i dont commit crimes or break the law.

      I also don't "ruin people" as you put it. Simply everything I do is because it serves me in some way"

      I see. So why do you think you're a sociopath then? I mean it sounds like you're just a manipulative person.

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    8. Not all sociopaths are violent or get in trouble with the law. In fact, most are not that way. I'm definitely a sociopath haha. I don't feel love, I think violence is funny, I manipulate, I feel no remorse or emotion, other things too. You can always read some of my comments on the last several blog posts.. That'll give you an idea

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    9. I don't understand how you can say you feel no remorse if you've never done the kinds of things a normal person would feel remorse over? I have read your comments.

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    10. It's true that I haven't really described things I do that normal people would feel remorse about, but I'm telling you that I don't feel it..

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    11. And yet you commit no crimes and ruin no one? Perhaps you're just an ordinary asshole? No offence intended by that, but you just don't sound like a sociopath if you're that restrained and careful about what you do.

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    12. I think you need to go research sociopaths because you obviously have no idea what hey do and their behavioral patterns

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    13. He is so careful about what he does BECAUSE he's a socio. If your world has no borders, you have to create borders for yourself, in order to live a comfortable life.

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    14. See MyMind knows exactly what I mean

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    15. Yeah, since this also counts for me, it's not that hard to know.^^ But thanks.

      Do you have remorse in a logical/intellectual way, M. Brig?

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    16. Yes, I know logically when I have done something wrong if that's what you're asking. I am aware of how it affects others, I just don't care

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    17. Nope, that's not what i asked. I think i should have used regret instead of remorse, so it's more clear what i mean.

      I mean, when you have miscalculated something.

      For example, you want to play someone out, and just because you overlooked one tiny detail, one of your good friends, gets hit by your plan, too.
      Happened to me once, although i never felt something like regret, i thought "Shit, I should have known it!"

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    18. Oh yeah totally. Like when one of my plans I've weaved gets screwed up because of something I overlooked. Because then I have to work twice as hard to fix it if that's what I want to do

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    19. And it will get messy and emotional and it pisses me off when that happens

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    20. Quote from M.Brig:

      "I don't feel love, I think violence is funny, I manipulate, I feel no remorse or emotion, other things too."

      I thought sociopaths DO in fact feel emotion........ Am I wrong here? You cant feel Anger? Lust? Greed? Anything?????

      That dosent sound like the typical sociopath to me, although I may be wrong......

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    21. Actually, here are all the emotions listed as Wikipedia puts them......

      Affection ·
      Anger ·
      Angst ·
      Anguish ·
      Annoyance ·
      Anxiety ·
      Apathy ·
      Arousal ·
      Awe ·
      Boredom ·
      Contempt ·
      Contentment ·
      Courage ·
      Curiosity ·
      Depression ·
      Desire ·
      Despair ·
      Disappointment ·
      Disgust ·
      Distrust ·
      Dread ·
      Ecstasy ·
      Embarrassment ·
      Envy ·
      Euphoria ·
      Excitement ·
      Fear ·
      Frustration ·
      Gratitude ·
      Grief ·
      Guilt ·
      Happiness ·
      Hatred ·
      Hope ·
      Horror ·
      Hostility ·
      Hurt ·
      Hysteria ·
      Indifference ·
      Interest ·
      Jealousy ·
      Joy ·
      Loathing ·
      Loneliness ·
      Love ·
      Lust ·
      Outrage ·
      Panic ·
      Passion ·
      Pity ·
      Pleasure ·
      Pride ·
      Rage ·
      Regret ·
      Remorse ·
      Sadness ·
      Satisfaction ·
      Shame ·
      Shock ·
      Shyness ·
      Sorrow ·
      Suffering ·
      Surprise ·
      Terror ·
      Trust ·
      Wonder ·
      Worry ·
      Zeal ·
      Zest


      Are you saying the only thing you feel is "indifference"???? Well if it is, that at least you feel ONE emotion! LOL :)

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    22. The try-hards will come to their senses eventually.

      Or maybe not...

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    23. Ha, that's awesome Rich! QM

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    24. Anon @ 2:16, hopefully..... There seems to be alot of people who just want that mysterious sociopathic identity, and not knowing what it really is....... Maybe they are just confused.....

      But there are definatly a few socios here, thats for sure ;)

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    25. Oh, interesting.

      There is a difference between feelings and emotions.
      Feelings are exactly defined and, if you will, solid constructs.
      Emotions (from "motion" = "movement") aren't defined, they aren't solid constructs, yes, we got words for them, but those aren't definitions.

      Let's compare feelings to emotions: try to describe hunger (feeling) and now try to describe love (emotion).

      Also feelings can be the results of emotions, and feelings can become emotions.

      Another thing to add, is, that feelings don't need emotions to exist and vice versa.

      All in all, psychopaths are capable of feeling feelings, the only thing they don't feel are emotions. If psychopaths wouldn't be able to feel something, they wouldn't be impulsive, which is, at least as much i know, a characteristic trait.

      Psychopath: Feelings +
      Emotions -

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    26. If your world has no borders, you have to create borders for yourself, in order to live a comfortable life.

      If your world has no borders it has no borders.

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    27. Edit:

      There are way to much different logical outcomes and associated conditions, to get to a definitive conclusion.

      And the argument: "But, no conclusion is a conclusion!", does not count! <3

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    28. @UKannade

      That's a really nice argument!


      It's just pretty useless because it's not a problem of logic or abstractness. It's just a problem of phrasing.

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    29. No borders, no borders, until you're caged inside four walls with 'Bubba'.

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    30. See the post at 1:10pm where he says he gets pissed off?????? That is most definitely an emotion, yet he denies having emotions....... So either he is confused, lying, or do sent understand his own feelings and emotions..... I'm not trying to throw him under the bus or anything I'm just curious about what he feels or doesn't feel.

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    31. I do have feelings, I just don't have emotions. I don't feel love, I feel lust. I feel anger too among other things. But I am also largely indifferent to anything that doesn't apply to me with the exclusion of a few things. You could say my emotions are "shallow" if you need a label. But then again I don't love.. I call it attachment. I'm attached to those I'm close to but I don't know what love feels like

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    32. Yeah, that's what i meant.

      Being pissed of, is not an emotion, it's a feeling. Emotions are much deeper and harder to understand.
      Pissed off only means, that he, most likely, forgets it and will go on to do something else.

      Also that could be the reason why sociopaths, are so good at reading mimics(they display feelings, not emotions) , because it's more in their focuss.

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    33. Exactly. And I also don't hold grudges.. I will forget how I felt shortly after usually a short period of time

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    34. Very interesting, thank you guys for elaborating on that....... Now I understand the difference between what I have, which I consider feelings/emotions because its hard for me to differentiate between the two when I am feeling them......... thanks for you guys perspectives on this, it has broadened my mind more to your feelings compared to my own :-)

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    35. Thank you very much M.Brig....... Alot of the time I tend to p"project" my own feelings/emotions and think that others feel the same way I feel exactly. So it is refreshing and new to me when I get to see other peoples feelings and understand how they feel apart from myself anf my own projections.

      Thank you as well MyMind........ I find it fascinating how other people feel and experience their life compared to how I experience my own life.

      ;)

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    36. That's really awesome, Rich. Not many people can accept socios for who they are.

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    37. http://www.sociopathworld.com/2010/08/psychopaths-feel-emotions.html

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    38. That's a good argument, but yes emotions are not experienced in the same way at all. MyMind explained it well with the difference between "feeling" and "emotions"

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    39. That's a really nice argument!

      No it's common sense.

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  7. Good Morning Rich!

    How are you?

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    1. Hey MyMind!!!! Iam well, just hanging back and having a cold beer :)

      How are you doing today?

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    2. Nice to read!

      I'm doin' pretty good right now. And now, i'm going hit the bong.

      Have a good one!(Beer)

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    3. Oh man!!!!!!! I am so jealous!!!!!! Good for you man. I smoked multiple times daily for about eight or nine years...... I quit cause I wanted a job and now they give me take home methadone that I couldn't get before from dirty drug tests....... my brother grows medical marijuana in Cali for the medical dispensaries there and just came on Christmas which was the last time I smoked. He brought like eight different strains. He left me some lemon haze that I smoked new years and I still have two strains left, one is called Charlie sheen ans the other is indica, I believe its called pk99 or p99. I got them for when I can smoke!!!! Enjoy bud!! Hit one for me!!!!!! Have fun!!!!!

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    5. HAHAHAHA :D

      That's a shame and nice at the same time :D

      Sometimes i'm kinda happy about the fact that i'm functioning pretty good stoned.

      I just(time) build one for you! :)

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    6. Charlie Sheen? Lol!

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    7. Actually i just smoked two for you.

      And good look with your work! :)

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    8. Thanks mymind!!!!! I appreciate it buddy!!!!!!


      Anon yea its called Charlie sheen it is in a green prescription bottle with small pica of Charlie sheen smoking a cigar........ look it up online its a real strain :-)

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  8. Sometimes bad things happen to god people, but do god things ever happen to bad beings? This is one of the questions I ask myself.... Thanks again for your blah

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    1. Since stochastics do not care for good or evil, good and bad things happen to good and bad people.

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    2. Bad things happen to good people more than bad things happen to bad people.

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    3. That's subjective.

      Oh, this time it's even a definition problem.

      Irrelevant statement.

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    4. I don't believe there's such a thing as a 'bad' person, and neither a 'good' person for that matter.

      It's about perspective. From their different views the one sees something that the other does not, and they act upon what they have seen.

      It may seem foolish to the one if the other were to sell all he has, to buy a single piece of land, but the other may have discovered something there he deems valuable.

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  9. I realized that the writing Vegitopath put on the Forum was cheap writing and I should not put something on here that is not worth your reading.

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    1. you are the veggie?

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    2. Your writing isn't cheap. I think you should make your own blog or Tumbler. QM

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    3. veggi messed up my bookmark posts :(

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  10. Dear Mathew M.

    You always looks looke like you need to take a shower because you had group sex with lots of massage oils the night before you went runnning so to have your washboreds photographed.

    And also you got cast really real good as narcissist in Magic Mike.

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  11. You're going to out yourself to people before a third party does it for you - is it because of this blog? I appreciate finding information on sociopathy, but I don't see the benefit for you of informing people. And why would you want people to know you're not a good person and don't deserve the benefit of the doubt? QM

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    1. Oh, I see. You wrote a book. Hey, good luck. I hope sales are good. QM

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    2. I can't wait to read M.E's book. Zoe and I will buy the first copies :D

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    3. let's all meet at the book signing.

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    4. Ill come!!!! Maybe ill be the only Empath!!! :) LOL

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    5. I thought I was the only Empath here..... Am I wrong? Are you an Empath too Zoe? Do we stand alone????

      If so, Iam sorry :) WE will be the only empaths there ;)

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    6. i think it's mostly empaths here.

      i have a conscience and wouldn't pass the psychopath tests. or is that fail? but have to say, the label empath makes me cringe.

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    7. Why do you claim to be an uber empath while you're living out of people's goodwill without giving much of a thought about their work?

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    8. I think zoe would pass the psychopath test with ease.

      I, also, believe she's ugly inside and out and that is why she belittles people. And has received little love. Poor thing!

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    9. i think anonymous is trying to crawl under my skin.

      i don't believe it's working.

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    10. my spider senses are tinnnnggggggglinggllingling.............kaaaaneyyy!

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    11. i think i agree with the anon. you pontificate a whole lot zoe

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    12. you posted in the wrong thread ugly. aspie's in the other one.

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    13. pontification free and tiresomely true: anonymous likes to feed off the goodwill of others by shaming them.

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    14. Zoe offers more than most anyone one on here.

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    15. You're right. She's the one that gives you the most attention, that's what this love is about, isn't it? I'll tell you what, she doesn't care about your problems, she's feeding her own narcissism by helping you.

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    16. lol. anon is desperate to crawl under someone's skin. poor shivering little wormy thing.

      okay let's play. how am i feeding my narcissism? isn't it possible i'm also helping myself?

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    17. Zoe is ALWAYS projecting.

      Calling others narcissists when she is a psychopath. WTF

      Ask yourself WHY she has to communicate in that pontificate manner.

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    18. Zoe, have you called any trolls narcissists in the last couple years? You know you shouldn't feed them ;) QM

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    19. Shut the fuck up QM! No one rattled your cage.

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    20. QM
      I am surprised you are female.

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  12. theory: M.E. is two people. one male, one female.

    thoughts?

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    1. Zoe - You are a real smart ass! And this is not a compliment.....

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    2. so i either guessed right (unlikely) or you don't like me for some reason. :(

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    3. Well, now that Zoe's been properly chastised, why do you think M.E. is two people flash? Because he dates both men and women? QM

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    4. that reminds me of something i've been meaning to post..

      why is it that some people get so easily offended? how does that even feel? i don't think i've ever felt offended by what someone said or did that wasn't directed at me. with the exception of rude body sounds and such. that's a whole other thing and don't even get me started.

      so what does it feel like? i don't mean when someone attacks you, but when they're just doing their thing which has nothing to do with you in any way, and just their existence offends you. what is that?

      is it a narcissist thing?

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    5. early ME seemed more like a guy. some later posts had a different feel to them, more feminine. posting would be less work if you took turns, and there would be more time to play around in the comments section.

      i would say ME the guy does most of the blogs but not all, and the female ME spends most of the time splashing about in the comments section.

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    6. don't forget the fun factor.

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    7. I'm not sure about that, but I've wondered something similar.

      If were writing a blog like this, to conceal my identity I would seed it with misinformation, personal facts that either mislead or make me more sympathetic. I can't imagine not changing a few details about my family and personal life to make it harder to identify me.

      Not that it matters, but I wonder how much to take at face value... QM

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    8. oh good point anon. i do that with my comments, changing details where they aren't relevant to the story or comment. but it's the little things...

      for example in an early early post, ME referred to his sister as "lady", which made him sound like a guy. some time later there was a post where ME something about hearing "i'm hungry" from those close to her (?). i may not be remembering this one correctly.

      of course it could all be fiction.

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    9. a few months ago a comment was posted by one of the regulars, then vanished. when we delete comments, the placeholder remains so you can tell something was deleted. i read the comment, then it was gone. i'm pretty sure it wasn't one of those threads where you had to hit "load more".

      assuming it wasn't ME messing with the person, then at least one of the regulars is on the ME team.

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    10. it could be a university research project. the inevitable publication would out him/her/them.

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    11. This is so much fun on which to speculate. I, almost said speculum.

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    12. I missed the post that refers to M.E. as female and have assumed he was male. I guess he could be multiple people or have a team. He seems to post / tweet around the clock.

      Of course I don't understand his motives well enough to surmise anything, I'm just idly speculating here... QM

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    13. zoey 1:44 post

      What bullshit!!!!

      I disagreed with one of your psycho babble statements and you were still offended two days later. You're such a LIAR!

      Empath my ass..........

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    14. oh you must be the anon who still hasn't made their point lol. just because you disagreed with it doesn't make it wrong. make your point.

      waiting....

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    15. and bump it to here pls cause the threads got vegitpathed and when i do a search on zoe the name is on every post.

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    16. we overlooked the obvious. the site is run by hollywood writers trolling for ideas for shows like criminal minds and dexter.

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    17. anon @ 2:34

      ME referred to him/herself in a recent post as a witch. sort of weird for a he. of course it could be intentional.

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    18. Male occultists also call themselves witches, I believe. Funny.

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    19. most guys wouldn't know that. most writers might. hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    20. well the main author (ME) is female according to some book descriptions, I wouldn't be suprised though it there have been a few unannounced different writers from time to time as the writing is sometimes pretty different, of course she has also had commentors guest author in the past

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    21. zoe is planting seeds all over the place

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    22. what is she on?

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    23. what am i on? pure monday cut with freezing cold

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    24. @monica

      nothing much. just playing around

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    25. Zoe @144

      In that TED conference on Lying , i think, they showed Cheyney and his upper lip curled . He looked disgusted, repulsed, in a state of contempt.

      Is that what you mean when you ask about someone who is offended by another when it isnt personal? He looked like he had contempt. Is that what you mean by offended?

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  13. "Confession has to be part of your new life."
    ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein

    Will armstrong benefit from this confession to receive more narcissistic supply? Staying silent had none.

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    1. Is confession equal to transparency?

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    2. "Is confession equal to transparency?"

      It depends on many things.........right?

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  14. I don't know when it hits you that you are spinning on one of those old time carnival rides. I hate anything that goes fast. I let my best friend shame me into going on an enclosed ferris wheel. I remember the sense of giving up when I was getting so sick and there was no end in sight. What could I do? It was the same as when I went to a black church and they told me I could not be saved unless they dunked me under the water, every little bit. I dressed in a white robe. I looked like a choir member Three men dunked me. There were a few seconds that I thought they made a mistake and I would never come up. People must feel this way before they die. People must know, in those last minutes. I bet they give up and go quietly because what good would a fight do?

    I am thinking about death, a lot, lately. I have reached all of my earthly dreams, except for having enough self esteem, but I may never reach that.

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    1. There are some relationships that are a pure sandpaper or lemon when it gets into a cut on your finger. You try, with all your might, to make it not hurt, but it persists in abrading, either slowly or fast.

      I think we all want a place in the world, but the world doesn't seem to want to give it. It is like it is shaking it's fist and saying, "Screw you". Just as you are coasting down the highway in your red convertible, top down, designer shades, you check yourself out in the mirror and go off the road.

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    2. Take your place anyway. QM

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    3. On a new subject, the devil is a slick bastard. He can talk you out of it all: your money, your pants, your sanity. He specializes in sanity. He has been doing it for ages, so he is damn good. You are an amateur in the hands of a rank professional. I must have won the lottery for relatives who twist me around like the little bastard with the red, forked tail and the pitchfork.

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    4. Love you, QM.

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    5. The devil is smart - he's lived longer..........

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  15. the thing that bothers me is that he now confessed
    the only reson to do that is to keep controle of the situation
    i like the think sociopaths would not take controle over cold hard cash ( i know i would not do that)
    he's gonne loos a lot of money

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    1. how many of you would take controle over cash?

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    2. The only thing you can control is yourself.

      He knew being exposed was a possibility. After all the more people who are privy to what you're doing the greater the risk of exposure. He he added it up and chose to take the risk knowing full well he might be right where he is today.

      He confessed because at this point in the game it was the best option left on the table. The end result (try and see the big picture) will be greatly determined by how well he plays his hand.

      At this point, his viability in the marketplace of public perception is on thin ice. His challenge is to use the situation in a way the public can accept and turn it around for his personal gain.

      He needs self control, vision and the ability to lead people in the direction he wants them to go all while making them think it was their idea.

      People love to forgive. They love humility and contrition. They love to believe in redemption.

      Money is the least of his concerns.

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  16. Arms Lancestrong.

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  17. So, according to assorted descriptions of ME and the forthcoming book, ME is a female. And a practicing attorney and accomplished law professor.

    And a 747 pilot, an accoutant, and virtouso violinist. (just kidding I made this sentence up).

    Interesting. Good luck with the book.

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    1. There's a definite market for M.E action-figures in here... perhaps somewhat of a market for Lance Armstrong as well, by the looks of it.

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    2. @ aspie - Where did you see that? I did a quick search and didn't find anything. QM

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    3. various sites, fritz agency was one

      always envisioned ME as male

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    4. You're right, I missed that. From the blurb: "HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT: Inside the Mind of a Sociopath, the first-ever confession by a high-functioning, non-criminal, diagnosed sociopath and accomplished law professor, a story of cruelty and manipulation followed by redemption and ultimately love and friendship, combining memoir and the latest research on the science of the "empathy-challenged"

      I thought she was male, too. She did a great job of being ambivalent. QM

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    5. yeah there is another one that is a lot more descriptive where she is described as "a charismatic charmer, an ambitious self-promoter and a calculating businesswoman" and high functioning similar to Dexter.

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    6. of course, there is the possibility that the author is not really a she but it doesn't appear that way

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    7. "Film/TV rights were licensed by NBC Universal with Steve Blackman (Private Practice) attached as show runner for pilot)"

      Maybe there will be a tv show too?

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    8. Mmm, maybe, but rights to books are often purchased by studios that are never produced. Or they take a decade or more. It's very political. If so M.E. is going to be as famous as Stephenie Meyer or J.K. Rowling.

      aspie, remember the story about ruining people, you know, C & K? That definitely made me think M.E. was male. And also the seduction of the co-worker she was involved with. The co-worker sounded like a gay man. Maybe she just switched genders of C & K? And the conversations with her sister and friends also gave me the impression she was male...

      What do you think? QM

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    9. http://www.methomas.org/

      picture at bottom looks decidedly male...

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    10. Good research, but that guy has to be in his 70's at least; our M.E. is in her / his 30's. Also, that site doesn't sound like anything like M.E. - unless it was just put together for commercial purposes. "Live, Love, Learn"? No way.

      I wonder, though, could an attorney serve as a proxy for an author who wishes to remain anonymous?

      I wish he / she could do an interview after the release. This is too good a mystery! QM

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    11. I think that was before my time, QM. I may have read it but don't recall it really.

      The writing and the presentation of the content for the most part suggests a male author to me. Sociopathic qualities, such as elaborate planning, logical analysis, violence and non emotional relating in general suggest male to me. A sociopathic attorney brain - that might come off as male. The content itself I take with a grain of salt and see it more like a shaped intention than honest communication. Certain things in a mechanical realm, which I won't elaborate on, do slightly suggest female brain I think. Some here have claimed strongly that ME is female, though usually as a form of insult. Or at least it seemed like that. All very interesting as far as the book launch and all that goes. Me could get famous if keeps it high functioning. We should all get free ebook copies :)

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    12. I'm really interested in figuring out why I thought ME was a man. Her voice as an author is intelligent, dry and confident. It's easier for me to see her writing as possibly feminine from the early years of the blog, whereas now it seems more masculine. But I probably just misinterpreted a few cues and then assumed from there. I'm curious because I've considered using a male identity online, but it may be trickier to execute than I thought. QM

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  18. does anyone know what happened to tnp?

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    1. Cancer finished him off.

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    2. i hope not. tnp was okay

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    3. He posted in the forum today so he's still kicking.

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    4. Speaking of the forum:

      " It's already known that the brain doesn't remember feeling, just events connected to them. The memories themselves might hurt people but that is post traumatic stress. "

      Is this debatable? Because I am remembering things which make me feel bad for myself as a little person, things I had no idea were going to impact on me the rest of my life, events which have essentially molded my life journey into an episode of Buffy Vampire Slayer. It is not helping me to feell pity for myself. I do, oh i do. And angry. But I do not want the memories. They hurt me. And I am the one who is doing the remembering. So I am responsible.

      These memories do not serve the present. They are f u c k i n g it all up. I am too centered on the self and fearing. I am reading a book called The Wisdom of Insecurity by Alan W. Watts so I can find how to deal with things which put me to feel so insecure. I am trying to intellectualize my way out, i am trying to have a meaningful time on earth while alive, I am trying to practice a loving relationship.

      I do not want to keep retraumatizing, so I can ffffeeeeel empathy for myself as a little baby. Because it is overwhelming me, and putting me to ocd thinking.

      Monica, I am angry at you because you think its a great idea to retraumatize. It is as bad as when Ukan does his torture on you. For you to go and tell me to go through the above and expect to find something, some magical parting of the sky so jesus will come and lift me up and kiss me, is a really shitty thing to do to an atheist.

      I hate this place and all the ramblings of the "intellectuals" with phd wtf. Go author another book. Do not put ideas into my head I can have a better life if I heal. It sucks worse now than it did before. The only difference is now I'm aware. Isn't that more torturous?

      And before someone says "you mad, bro"? go fuck yourself.

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    5. I can relate to what you're saying, anon. Learning mindfulness techniques is one of the best things you can do. Applying them when you're having the difficulties you describe will help.

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    6. Monica, I am angry at you because you think its a great idea to retraumatize. It is as bad as when Ukan does his torture on you. For you to go and tell me to go through the above and expect to find something, some magical parting of the sky so jesus will come and lift me up and kiss me, is a really shitty thing to do to an atheist.

      Anon
      What I am saying must hit you, or you would not be upset. Last night I cried the most bitter tears. I cried for a long time and the tears were like fire. I could only do it because I know God is there and I am His. When it is all said and done, I was not my mother's or even this worlds. I am His and He is my loving father. Without that, I don't think people can do this <3

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    7. Indeed.

      Also, 'Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.'

      Just let it take care of itself, why do you accept some sad reality that you don't even agree with?

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    8. Anon 3:50 AM
      Sounds like one of monica's passive agressive stories to me. Anyone, else?

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    9. Monica I understand. I am upset to have to do "rebirth".


      I am not a disciplined person to begin with, and I have things to do. I am losing my time and not want to die having dwelt on the past. The things I want I am not doing.

      Sure, the nice thing to absolutely know without a doubt in my mind, is that I wouldn't be doing my goals now anyway. I am kidding myself if I think I would be doing them. Because I have always been undisciplined. And self destructive, and learned helpless, and not taking necessary risks, and being rejection sensitive. Always. I cannot blame any of what I said about this. SO there is consolation in that.


      what i am is angry, so angry that the reasons I am the above is from this past things which stunted me. It makes me feel so terrible abt myself.

      I told my bf of my intimacy problems, and I think he knows this partially due in light of his "cheating". But I told him i wanted my ego out of it, that I will not allow to be close r e g a r d l e s s. I said it is a compulsive choice for me. He cannot do anything about this I( I did not say, but I think I implied, But this is false though, because I believe Haven created a list, and Ayn Rand said if a man wants to keep, he will do the things necessary.

      I find my telling him the truth a very nice thing. But I worry it was a wrong thing. Even though he looked happy I communicated to him, and I desired to take my ego out and just be, he came to me and said he was glad i said it. But if someone told ME this, I would think Red flag red flag. . . I fear I did a wrong thing by oversharing.

      My good male friend says I am giving me and him mixed signals, and that I should be happy I am in a relationship which is ambiguous thing with no definition because that is what *I* wanted and what I put out to the world. I have to say, it is true. I cannot really complain.

      I am seeing this person's patterns as we go along. I think he starts to get pulling away and will start to see others, especially if i do the above. I told him those words "real" or "imagined" paranoia, and said i am afraid of this insecurity making me unattractive to him. (I am pretty inconsistent with this insecurity, which compensates because I show strength and non victim status. ALso he admires this honesty.

      Here, I am told to go with my gut. I do not trust my gut on this one.


      But I cannot go on to feeling too insecure and bring up my concerns to a person who wants essentially what I want - - to feel secure. Can I? But really,i dont know what he wants. Maybe he dont know. BUT...he did a 180 WHEN I DUMPED and has not come through yet, with his new leaf to me on introductions to family.

      Even if he had not cheated I may still have the paranoias.

      This is why I am angry. I do not want any ideas in my head. I want a clean slate, And it feels too late for this. I keep wanting to dump him. But it wouldn't necessarily be bec of him.This is maddening to me. Then there is the "be careful what you wish for" and I worry if I get what I want with him, I may not be happy. :O. Wtf



      I

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    10. Awww Anon
      Thank you you sharing that. It may have been very hard for you and I appreciate it, greatly. I want to think about what you wrote. I wish there were fast answers. If there were, I would be a superstar, already ~
      I will be back, later, today or tomorrow and we can talk. I would like a name with which to address you. I think you are Intimacy Anon, if I am not mistaken.

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  19. can sociopaths attach memories to music? For instance; does a song ever remind you of a person or a particular time?

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    AnonymousFebruary 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM
    more- does music inspire any feelings inside?

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    Just saw "A Late Quartet". Really recommend. And not just for the musicians here.

    Christopher Walken , Katherine Keener, Philip Seymore Hoffman. Has anyone seen it??

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  20. :) Good Morning again Everybody!!!!

    How are you all today?

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    1. Good Morning Rich, MyMind, Zoe, QM and Everyone!!
      I wanted to ask your opinion on a situation I had last night, but I think I should wait until the new article, so you can all see.

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    2. Good Morning!

      I can't wait to read it!

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    3. Hey everybody!!!!!

      I cant wait to read it either!

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  21. I don't think lying makes him a sociopath. A ton of people would keep up a lie to stay as famous and adored as he was. That lifestyle is difficult to give away, hence his bullying, he didn't want to lose his place in the world. I agree that this may have made him narcissistic, but a sociopath? I doubt it.

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  22. This comment section is too friggin' long…

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    1. CEO SociopathworldFebruary 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM

      Good job Themes. Everyone loves a brass band ahaha ahhaaha ahhhahhaa.

      In a good mood today, everyone. Carry on.

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  24. I am glad this site exists because it definitely provided me with info to better understand my "condition". I have been obsessed with this subject since learning what sociopathy is and that I am in fact the epitome of sociopathy. I am just trying to take it all in and see how I can use it to my advantage if that is possible. I have come to believe that we do all fall on a scale of intensity for sociopathic tendencies. I hate to admit that I am on the very high end. I get great pleasure out of deceiving others, playing others, and draining them till they are dry. It is so easy and people are so naive. I can stand in front of you and make you laugh till tears roll down your face. Pat you on the back. Have you loving me and wanting to be my friend forever. All the time, in my mind, I am thinking of how stupid you are and how much I hate you for being so easy to fool. I could have my hand on my gun quietly deciding in my mind if you are gonna die at this moment or will I spare you. Most likely I will spare you. Not because I care or you did anything to save yourself. There might be just too much of a risk of a camera conveniently catching my image or a witness walking nearby who may identify me. Other than that, nothing stops me. I know some people who comment here think they are sociopaths and I laugh aloud at some posts because some seem to think this is Hollywood crap or something. Like this is some romantic, vampire fairy tale where a man is torn between his good and evil sides. You are jackasses. This life is miserable. You have to force yourself to feel things. Unfortunately, I have made a habit of using very bad methods of stimulation like drugs,, violence, etc. If I listed some of the "lighter" things I've done in my short life, law enforcement would be at my doorstep before I hit POST. Think about it all of you who think being a sociopath is cool, fun, easy, or something to desire. It is anything but.

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