Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Psycho-path to success

A reader sent me a CNN feature about psychopaths, which has been sort of a theme recently but this one has an interactive quizz! And clever headline! "Bad Bosses: The Psycho-path to Success." And quotable quotes:

  • "Most of us have an image of psychopathy that's inaccurate -- we think of the killer, a crazy person ... the fact is, psychopathy is a personality disorder that may or may not result in criminal behavior." 
  • "Squint at the symptoms of psychopathy, and in a different light they can appear as simple office politics or entrepreneurial prowess." 
  • "They can't get any one thing done because they're prone to boredom, but that can be easily called 'multitasking.'" 
  • "Risk-taking can be beneficial. A lack of empathy can be beneficial, if you need to make a rational-based decision."
From the reader:

I saw this today and immediately thought of you.  Especially funny is the interactive flash quiz at the top, where it you can answer questions about your boss to find out if he/she is a psychopath. It comes replete with scary pictures, including Christian Bale's "American Psycho" dvd cover. On a more serious note, I find that knowledge of psychopathy, and all it entails, is slowly creeping into society's collective conscience. The word is used conversationally, with increasing accuracy, by the general public, and mentioned increasingly often in movies / on tv. Perhaps you can write a post regarding this phenomenon? Personally, I am dismayed by this pattern, and hope it is just my imagination playing tricks on me, because I have always relished the complete ignorance of psychopathy's very EXISTENCE most people display.

There does seem to be something of a trend, doesn't there? There's the "Occupy Wall Street guy, the remake of American Psycho starring (possibly? please be true, rumor mill) someone famous for acting like a psychopath. Next up should be a book, of course by me. Then a scripted television show, about my life. Then a reality television show, which I will produce. And then cashing out and becoming a life coach. At least that is my five year plan.  Maybe the extra publicity will be bad for the average psychopath, but it's sort of a prisoner's dilemma situation, is it not?

But realistically, will being aware of the existence of psychopaths really change the way people live their lives?  Just because I'm aware of the dangers of automobile travel, does that mean that I do not travel in a car?  At a certain point, all of the information about the baddies (terrorists, murderers, rapists, white collar criminals) and the health risks (cancer, AIDS, accidental death, mental disease) in the world just becomes background noise.  Adding one more thing to worry about will not affect the way most people go about their lives.  I don't think about cancer daily.  Then again, I might if I actually got diagnosed with cancer.

354 comments:

  1. Enlightened individual who has realized who is the center of the universeJanuary 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    I have realized that the writer of this article is the center of the Universe and everything else is satellital to him, but it is not a matter or perception or delusion. I truly think he is the center of the Universe and everyone should know so.

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  2. I don't think there will be general knowledge any time soon about what socio/psychopathy truely is about.

    Most people are indoctrinated with the idea that a psycho/sociopath is simply a cold-blooded - serial - killer.

    It surely would be to the disadvantage of sociopaths should the general population get educated about what the PD precisely is. And it would create paranoia.

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  3. "What we refer to as 'conscience' is not a purely intellectual mechanism but has a strong emotional component."

    Oh come on. Why would our conscience be so easy to selectively shut off, if this were true? *Nobody* walks around all day feeling empathy for the disenfranchised and underprivileged.

    Perhaps individuals with psychopathic traits find themselves on executive committees because we have ambition, drive, and are resourceful enough to prevent emotional handicaps from crippling our ability to make sound business decisions.

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  4. self actualized sw memberJanuary 24, 2012 at 1:59 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOQP3czk6nY&feature=related

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  5. What's brown and sticky?












    A stick! :D

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  6. "prevent emotional handicaps from crippling our ability to make sound business decisions."

    Except for irrational decisions about how the world works

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  7. Alter, you can't shut your conscience off, seeing as it is the voice of the holy spirit, right?

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  8. http://kimschmitzlookingatthings.tumblr.com/

    I don't know why this link is amusing. Or do I.

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  9. Psychopathy is as new as psychology. And psychology in general is becoming part of the collective unconscious. So topics that used to be highly complex are becoming typical topics in conversation. I really love the common knowledge, as it means average people are becoming psychologically interested, which is good for the general growth of the field... like the spread of quantum physics. It makes the world better. :D

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  10. Prisoner's dilemma:

    Two men are arrested, but the police do not possess enough information for a conviction. Following the separation of the two men, the police offer both a similar deal—if one testifies against his partner (defects/betrays), and the other remains silent (cooperates/assists), the betrayer goes free and the cooperator receives the full one-year sentence. If both remain silent, both are sentenced to only one month in jail for a minor charge. If each 'rats out' the other, each receives a three-month sentence. Each prisoner must choose either to betray or remain silent; the decision of each is kept quiet. What should they do?

    Funny thing is I have played this game many times with the police. They add a twist to it by telling you that your partner has informed on you already only they don't think that you were as involved as he says you were. That you only had a minor part, however they say your partner is trying to blame the entire thing on you. That it was your idea.

    Usually it was my idea, so funny that. I would end up remaining silent. My first partner ratted me and another bloke out on an arson. I didn't even do that one. They did to impress me. I had an alibi, so I ended up getting off on the whole thing. Plus they took footprints from the dirt next to the fence where they threw the cocktail. Their's was on it, but mine were entirely absent. They had nothing, but this blokes testimony which was flimsy at best. I had my mum's testimony who happened to check up on me around 4:00am with all my luck. I even woke up and looked on the clock when she looked in. So when they came in saying that one of my partners said I did it and it was my idea I told them that was impossible. They called my mum and confirmed my alibi. I was let go a couple hours later and released to my parents.

    On a larger case I threatned my partner while we were in the police car together. He was a minor. I told him that he would get next to nothing on a charge and I would end up holding the larger bag reguardless of what happened. Alternitively if he ratted he would end up with the bad end of the stick as I would end up serving a long sentence as a hero and he would die on the streets disgraced. Not in those words of course.

    The one with the loose lips isn't always the winner, ME. Sometimes staying in the dark and moving your pieces is the best strategy. That being said your new found hubris is more refreshing than your past false humility. Cheers for a better article.

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  11. scott dicksuck is not a sociopath. he's a spoiled child, nothing more.

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  12. I like it better when ME is arrogant, so i can relate better. Humility is truly awful.

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  13. I forgot to add the the police tell both partners that the other is ratting, when in reality nobody has said anything yet.

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  14. I like it better when ME is arrogant, so i can relate better. Humility is truly awful.

    I agree. More arrogance and manipulation M.E.

    Don't make me take all the scorn here.

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  15. Wow M.E. that lalst link was truly tasteless. I'm not sure why I'm surprised though. At least we know you pay attention to what goes on here I suppose.

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  16. Take the last two days, put them in a blender and come out with one core truth. There are some woman, in this case, as that is what I am dealing with in my real life, although it could apply to men, who cannot get above the level of simple animal, in the emotional realms.

    They can't for reasons which are not germane to the central point. One cannot expect a one legged man to run a marathon. One can't expect a woman with no empathy to be what we think of as a woman.

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  17. "Psychopathy is as new as psychology. And psychology in general is becoming part of the collective unconscious. So topics that used to be highly complex are becoming typical topics in conversation. I really love the common knowledge, as it means average people are becoming psychologically interested, which is good for the general growth of the field... like the spread of quantum physics. It makes the world better. :D "

    I like how you said that.

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  18. Theme Songs for SW RegularsJanuary 24, 2012 at 6:28 AM

    Theme Song for notme no 4


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR6PKtgEL_w

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  19. If no one showed you empathy, then you don't recognize it. If someone then shows it to you later on, you look at them like they are maybe out to get you because they cause a stir in you that makes you feel out of control. Being out of control is something a child is.

    Being a sensitive child stuck in an adult's body is freakish. No one wants to be with freaks.

    If someone like me decided to go and feel all over the goddamned place, after years of being taught that's really not cool, I could not survive.

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  20. "No one wants to be with freaks"

    Now that is not true at all.

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  21. Umm..ok then, some people are freak magnets and they look at you with some kind of weird fascination, or pity, or they want to cure you, or I dk something. But you need to act all the same, every goddamned minute of the day.

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  22. No you don't, you can just do nothing. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to tread in water gulping air, you can just float and breathe too.

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  23. Anon 6:37

    I hear you x

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  24. Thanks. And it isn't even sad.

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  25. "One can't expect a woman with no empathy to be what we think of as a woman."

    And what be your idea of a woman, Monica?
    You?
    If being a woman means being like you, I happily turn in my Chick Badge.

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  26. This is what I think. A fully "human" person has access to all parts of himself. Wisdom allows him to use each part in the appropriate place and way. However, he will never have complete wisdom. He will always err. He can approximate the goal, more, by having access to all of his sides.

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  27. wisdom doesn't need compassion.

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  28. Anyone stuck wanting to see their cookie cutter ideas of anything are closed minded people. No one here likes people who don't think out of the box.

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  29. wisdom doesn't need compassion.



    You are 100% wrong, in my opinion. It is the core of it. One cannot have true wisdom, without it.

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  30. There are more people willing to see "out of the box" than you realize.

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  31. Psychopaths are not the typical alpha male, a narcissist is the alpha male. A psychopath is more of a sick creepy evil fuck, than an alpha.

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  32. true wisdom is rational and self serving. it doesn't contain compassion.

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  33. If you cannot feel your own feelings, then you cannot feel other people's feelings. You have no wisdom about what it means to be human. What other kind of wisdom is needed?

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  34. to be self serving you must have compassion for yourself.

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  35. IF you have true compassion for yourself, you will have compassion for others.

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  36. 7:30 you must be a beeper.

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  37. There is such a thing as having compassion for others and not for yourself, too.

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  38. If you are in the middle, everyone is a big nothing, and no one really matters, not even yourself. How can you go in life just wishy-washying around in circles?

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  39. I am not a beeper. Why do you ask?

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  40. People who lack empathy are generally far more intelligent than those who have empathy. I've witnessed this.

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  41. You get a dog and feed it and take it to the park every day, and you will see how simple life can be.

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  42. yes, and then what? what happens when all is fed and tired out. what then?
    I'm not living here in this fucking hell hole of life just to eat and run, so fuck you.

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  43. "This is what I think. A fully "human" person has access to all parts of himself. Wisdom allows him to use each part in the appropriate place and way. However, he will never have complete wisdom. He will always err. He can approximate the goal, more, by having access to all of his sides."

    Wow Monica. How very judgemental of you. As if not having access to empathy and a fully expressed set of emotions makes someone less human? Does a person that's missing an arm qualify as less of a person because they don't have a full range of motion?

    People are born with what they are born with. It makes them no less human than anyone else. It just makes them different.

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  44. "Psychopaths are not the typical alpha male, a narcissist is the alpha male."

    Wrong (ok maybe occasionally right because nothing is absolute). Narcissists are beta males because their identities and self worth is dependent on the approval of those around them. However they're often LOUD beta males which makes them appear to be alpha males because they're always in your face.

    A real alpha male doesn't give a shit about what anyone else thinks.

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  45. Haven, the people in the conversation above .. do they strike you as beepers?

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  46. If by 'people' you mean Monica, than no. She's co-dependent and indulgent of her own narrow minded delusions and opinions of the world, but she's not a beeper.

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  47. @ Haven if someone has an impairment in not being able to achieve the state I describe, I am not judging. However, I think it is a fact. I must add, that I do not believe that anyone is stuck, any place, ever.
    Alterego would be one example, in my humble opinion.

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  48. Monica, I think you are as confused as Caroline on definitions. Wisdom and compassion arent synonomous. Both are components in the concept of enlightenment, but they are not the same nor are they dependent upon each other.

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  49. "A real alpha male doesn't give a shit about what anyone else thinks."

    all people with large egos are sensitive to criticism.

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  50. A real alpha male doesn't give a shit about what anyone else thinks.

    Marilyn Manson is alpha and Donald Trump is Beta? WUT

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  51. @ Sarah
    I, humbly, disagree.

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  52. "A fully "human" person has access to all parts of himself."

    You are saying people that lack qualities you value do not have full access to themselves. However, just because someone does not have the same range, or has a different range, of capabilities, does not mean they do not have access to all parts of themselves. Not having empathy, not having a kidney, not having a finger, are things that are not available and therefore not actually a part of that person. Making it absolutely possible for someone to access their full self, without the ability to access things that someone else possess but aren't natural to them.

    You don't like being considered judgemental, but you are actually placing a judgment on someone by trying to place a qualititative value on their experience of the world; their ability to achieve wisdom.

    btw, there is no such thing as 'complete wisdom'. Wisdom is only complete when you are dead and no longer capable of continuing to gain wisdom.

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  53. Well Monica why dont you look up the definitions and get your lesson for the day. Its not a matter of opinion. You are wrong based on definition. The way you are so stubborn about sticking by your own made up definitions is totally reminiscent of Caroline. I can see why people think you are the same person.

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  54. Monica... disagree, humbly or otherwise, but you are still wrong.

    Compassion and wisdom are different things. Compassion is an ability to feel sympathy for another human being. Wisdom is the ability to apply knowledge in a meaningful way. They can function together, true, but they certainly do not need to.

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  55. "all people with large egos are sensitive to criticism."

    Most people in general, large ego or not, are sensitive to criticism. Someone that is alpha will not let that criticism alter their perception of their Self though.


    "Marilyn Manson is alpha and Donald Trump is Beta? WUT "

    You are interpreting things into my statement that don't exist and neglecting the fact that there are no absolutes.

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  56. Haven I would consider you an alpha woman. Today, right now, I would.

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  57. what kind of men are attracted to/want to possess alpha females?

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  58. Curious. I am what I am.

    I appreciate knowing your opinion though.

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  59. come over here and make me.

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  60. Alpha Haven, shut that bitch up.

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  61. "Someone that is alpha will not let that criticism alter their perception of their Self though."

    Untrue. People with no self respect take criticism easily. You are stating YOUR opinion of an alpha, not a factual alpha. Most powerful guys are sensitive to criticism, it's why they squash competition.

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  62. I disagree, Haven. I do not think one can have true wisdom without experiencing one's own emotions, and HENCE know the emotions of others. That is the basis of true wisdom, in my opinion. We can agree to disagree, Haven :)

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  63. Anon 822 is a narc (a pseudo alpha) and you are hurting his ego by disagreeing, Haven. Have you no compassion? Or is it wisdom, Monica? Lol

    Good morning Haven, love. I see you jumped right into the fray ;)

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  64. People with no self respect bend to the will of everyone around them. You don't know what you're talking about. Someone that is alpha would have a high self respect and not be dependent on the vision another holds of them.

    What I see as alpha may be different than what you see as alpha, but thusfar you haven't shown me anything more correct than my vision of it.

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  65. Since when does lack of empathy mean you can't feel your own emotions, Monica?

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  66. You are not taking into account who the criticism is from, 8:22 It is ignored when coming from someone the receiver can't respect.

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  67. Just my 2 cents, Haven. I think you have a lot of strength. I think you are a leader. I think you fight for what you believe, and you listen to your core. All these define you, in my opinion. BPD is a form of definition, too, I suppose. However, the former qualities are YOU, not BPD.

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  68. Good Morning Sarah =) Oh no! I must be such a terrible person to injure such an important thing as an ego. Heh. I'm terrible with egos. I uphold my views regardless of how other people feel towards them. Gee, maybe my compassion is impaired right along with my empathy! Oh noes! =D How are you doing this morning?



    @Monica ... I believe you are confusing emotions with empathy. Regardless. Believe what you want to believe. It doesn't effect me. Except to keep me amused when you believe that opinions definitionally similar to fact.

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  69. will someone please correct my grammer up there? I can't get it right.

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  70. Haven, what you are describing is the average Joe, a person with a reasonable view of themselves. That's not alpha.

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  71. Alpha is the person all the others in the group look to for survival.

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  72. Alpha personalities do have a reasonable view of themselves, though they can also be blown to more extreme proportions. Alpha does not always mean egotist.

    Personalities lie along a spectrum. An alpha and your average joe (what I call a beta) share the same human characteristics, but in the alpha there will be more confidence in the self and less dependence on others. The magnitude of traits and the amount of self assuredness is greater in one. That doesn't mean the other has none, it just is not to the same degree.

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  73. Alpha may be passed around depending on what is needed. That is why there are departments and heads of departments. No one person is good at every single thing.

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  74. "Someone that is alpha would have a high self respect and not be dependent on the vision another holds of them."

    Amen to that!

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  75. @ Haven we have a terminology difference, here, but I need time to think about what you are saying. I will get back, at some point, after I do.

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  76. High five and hip chuck you, Raven.

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  77. Look Monica... I'm on the Twitter once again! 4 times in 2 days! Damn I'm good. That makes me what? A prophet here at SW?! Better start talking more about "a socio this", and "a socio that". You're missing your mark these days! :D

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  78. I've been quoted a number of times by ME, Raven. A few more than you.

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  79. @Raven Good for you :) :)

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  80. was there a tweet the other day about giving up goals ..something about knowing when to stop doing something?

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  81. Sometimes I want to read the twitter quote in context. How can you do that?

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  82. @Raven you were all dissing the Twitter until you got on it
    LMAO

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  83. Monica I think Raven is being facecious.

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  84. YO MLK, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT LAST NIGHT I HAD THE BEST DREAM OF ALL TIME.

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  85. @ Haven on the surface, maybe. Down deep, it means something to her but she will be the last to admit it lol

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  86. Busy morning. Putting out fires left and right. Looking forward to sitting down with a smoke.

    Yes, Monica, Raven is fucking with you about the twitter. You are really the only one whose panties get wet because you made the twitter. The rest of us are mildly amused at best.

    Notice how Monica and Caroline both have to "go think about things" when their belief is challenged? Im starting to think they really are the same.

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  87. "Monica I think Raven is being facecious."

    Uh yeah... she's a retard. She probably will tell you what facetious means too, but the definition will completely changed from the one in the dictionary.

    Monica.... Let me go... a little slower.... for you. I have... been getting quotes... on the... Twitter account... since before... I started... using my Blogger... account.

    I'm toying with you... you learning deficient... retard. I don't place my self worth... in the Twitter... account... or in what M.E. thinks... of me... like you.

    Is that slow enough... for you to process... or are there... still... too many words?

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  88. OK, I like being in the Twitter. Kill me :)
    Have to go. Talk later.

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  89. Sometimes ME puts stupid stuff up there, too, yanno. Plenty of my histrionic drivel, is there. It doesn't mean, it is genius, lol

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  90. You know what also doesn't have to be genius? People who get the meaning behind my words and actions...

    Oh wait.

    Apparently they do judging from the reactions of the anonymous posters, and Caroline/Monica/Erin/Ami, to the shit I post on here. :D

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  91. it's a strange feeling i get when criticized, as if the person has just stepped on a landmine. a petty low quality rock has been thrown at a magnificent statue.

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  92. I was making fun of myself, Raven.

    I do not think that *I* have thrown pearls of wisdom anywhere. This has nothing to do with you, whatsoever.

    I happen to talk out loud here, throwing everything back onto my own self. *You* are not part of the equation. I will from now on address you when ever *I* post in your presence, if that helps.

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  93. Caroline, you already made it clear you were no longer going to "engage" me. But here you are, at it again. You just can't help yourself. You've written me off too many times to calculate, since I first got here... but you always come back around. Admit it; I'm irresistible to you.

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  94. Monica & Caroline both like to use commas inappropriately too...

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  95. I'm a fan of the Oxford comma. I don't pretend my grammar is anything spectactular though.

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  96. Compassion and wisdom have nothing to do with each other. Monica you are an idiot. Just like your counterpart caroline.

    You fucking givers. People like you are not wise. They are the stupid cunts that walk into the alleyway to help the man beckoning them with a broken arm in a sling only to get raped and chopped up. That's not wisdom. That's being a sucker.

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  97. @ Missus I have to give you credit for something. You said that I do not discern between people who matter and people who don't. You were right.

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  98. @Kanney: That is precisely what makes it so easy to shut out: the small quiet Voice is easy to ignore.
    I do so often, to my own detriment and to the detriment of others. Sometimes, my own urges and impulses scream so loudly that they drown it out entirely.

    As a teen and very young adult, I did not have a conscience. In fact, I remember the *very moment* I realized delightedly, at about 14, that I didn't have to tell the truth to anyone. I didn't have to feel guilty about anything. I could literally do whatever I wanted without any emotional burden whatsoever, and it *felt* incredibly liberating. It was a sham, though, because on that day, I became even more of a slave to my impulses.

    I can still shut out my conscience easily. And I am never burdened with emotional guilt or regret.

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  99. That I should remember the very moment makes me suspect that my will was engaged in the process. I was a crazy risk-taker as a child and I manipulated some of my friends to get what I wanted (the victim types were easy for me to identify back then), but I only became an outright *liar* as an adolescent.

    I have to consciously avoid trying to manipulate situations and people now, in much the same way I choose to demonstrate "empathy", compassion and other forms of altruism. The key, for me, is being mindful. Sarah hit the nail on the head right there, hehe.

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  100. I wish I could take a little of you in to me, Alterego. I am guilt ridden from my toes to my head lol

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  101. Amount of comments by the omnipresent Irish ip on this blog, 48 out of 109. This person must be locked up in solitary confinement with internet access limited to this blog.

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  102. Theme Songs for SW RegularsJanuary 24, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Theme Song for Mania


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tlU-1u1JC8

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  103. Well, Haven, I am certainly not the grammar or punctuation police, but I find their overuse of commas interesting. Generally, Ive seen people omit (like I sometimes do) more than overuse. That both of them have the same habit lends some credence to the idea that they are not two but one.

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  104. Where are the violators, Ma'am?

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  105. Is Hannibal David's alter?

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  106. Lol comma police, that would be Monica and Caroline.

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  107. What is the case, SW? Is Monica, Caroline? Anyone want to volunteer for the police force?

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  108. I'll respond to this here sue to the bug thingie in the previous thread.

    Kanney said: Alter, I think you should make a note of the fact that everything Eden said, you quoted directly, and responded to with a personal anecdote of some kind...

    Kanney, she was engaging me regarding my beliefs etc. How can I respond meaningfully without resorting to my own experiences when they are challenged? This does not make me a narcissist.

    I am not a narcissist, I am *mirroring* myself here. This is a process, and I daresay I am almost through. By all means, feel free to ignore my posts if they irk you!

    I don't think I am a full-blown sociopath either, just that I have traits. I am willing to listen objectively to the opinions of others, including yours, but I just do not possess most of the characteristics of a narcissist. Try to stuff me in that box all you want, but I won't fit, because it is the wrong one. But don't worry. I don't give a shite if you wanna keep trying. :)

    You should try actually listening to more than just the sound of your own voice, from time to time. It would really sharpen your analytical skills. Just some constructive criticism that you may take or leave, at your discretion.

    You know, it is OK to be wrong sometimes. :)

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  109. David, get off it already. We are not all variations of Ukan! Don't you realize how desperate it makes you look that you should obsess so much over him, in particular? Ugh.

    Caroline, I really don't know how to counsel you regarding excessive guilt.

    What, specifically, is causing it?

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  110. Theme Songs for SW RegularsJanuary 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Theme Song for The Comma Police




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDj_5FWU3tU&feature=related

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  111. Comma Police just made me giggle. Cheers.

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  112. Themes for SW RegularsJanuary 24, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    David's Theme Song no 2



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf71XpAot8I

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  113. Re: Alpha males

    Haven is right. Real alpha males are not all about their egos. I am unquestionably married to one. He successfully climbed to the top of his professional echelon in a very competitive field, in spite of tremendous resistance and even a lack of formal education (he works alongside and now directs people with Ph. Ds, though he does not possess one.) In the process, he navigated the machinations of a malignant, narcissistic manager who relentlessly sought to get him fired whilst taking credit for his work.

    To make a long story short, my husband is now partners with the CEO and and the narc dude is out on his ass. A bit of judiciously applied humility was imperative to the process.

    The cream always rises to the top.

    Kanney, bragging about my husband doesn't make me a narc, does it? ;)

    @Gag: Thanks for the encouraging words yesterday. I am glad my posts are interesting to you. :)

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  114. @ Alter My guilt? I marinate in it. I felt my family's problems would go away if I was only better.

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  115. Alterego you are the most narcissistic in here. It's hilarious yesterday you talked about being humble. All you do is talk about yourself. Seriously every single comment is you describing yourself. Every single comment is amount 'I', 'me', 'my', and 'I'm'.

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  116. Shut up with your stupid idiocies, UKan. Respect someone like Alterego who you should kiss her shoes he he

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  117. @ Alter My guilt? I marinate in it. I felt my family's problems would go away if I was only better.

    But you couldn't be good enough could you Caroline? Tell me, was it because the bar was too high or that you were too weak to reach it?

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  118. When someone has more to talk about then their petty little shit their a narc right Ukan?

    Your just jealous, you reek of feeling of being out done.

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  119. @ Ukan As a matter of fact, I was the perfect child, straight A student, popular, all the rest. The bar was too high.
    The guilt makes no sense, in reality. Of course, you look for anything to hurt people with. You are not fit to kiss the feet of someone like Alterego, in my opinion.

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  120. Caroline, guilt is a control issue. You feel guilty for not being able to control things that you cannot control. Guilt is completely useless unless it is related to something within your control (I know the socios think its useless period, and for them, it is a pointless discussion).

    It would be helpful for you to identify what guilt is yours and what isnt. What is yours you need to learn from then the guilt can be lessoned. Forgiveness of oneself is more important than forgiveness for others.

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  121. This is sociopathworld, not abuseworld. hehe

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  122. Talking about myself on this forum does not preclude humility. Like I said, I am attempting to mirror myself here precisely because I DON'T reveal much about myself in rl.

    If I am wrong, I can admit it. Can you? How about your wife? I have yet to hear either of you say a single positive or constructive comment to anyone, except Raven, whom you consider a sociopath and thus worthy of your approval.

    Perhaps you think I ought to spend more time attacking people, like the two of you?

    But you go ahead and think whatever you want of me Kannit, I truly do not give a flying fig. Just promise ne you won't kiss my shoes; foot fetishes are not my kink. :)

    No danger of that, I suppose. You don't kneel - ever. I'll bet you don't even know what humility feels like.

    @Caroline: How do you feel that if you were better, your family's problems would go away?

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  123. A giveaway to a narcissist is that their writing is filled with pronoun density (I, me, myself etc)

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  124. Just out of curiosity Caroline. Go to my blog and search for Unrelenting Standards/Hypercriticalness , Failure, and maybe some of the Emotional Inhibition, Suppression and Self-Sacrifice schemas. It's a lot of information that might resonate.

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  125. @ Sarah
    @ Haven


    Thank you. It is a trying to control what I could not control. You are 100% right.

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  126. Ha ha. There she goes again:

    Talking about myself on this forum does not preclude humility. Like I said, I am attempting to mirror myself here precisely because I DON'T reveal much about myself in rl.

    If I am wrong, I can admit it. Can you? How about your wife? I have yet to hear either of you say a single positive or constructive comment to anyone, except Raven, whom you consider a sociopath and thus worthy of your approval.

    Perhaps you think I ought to spend more time attacking people, like the two of you?

    But you go ahead and think whatever you want of me Kannit, I truly do not give a flying fig. Just promise ne you won't kiss my shoes; foot fetishes are not my kink. :)

    No danger of that, I suppose. You don't kneel - ever. I'll bet you don't even know what humility feels like.

    @Caroline: How do you feel that if you were better, your family's problems would go away?


    I think you set a record Altered Ego.

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  127. Actually this font is better:

    Talking about myself on this forum does not preclude humility. Like I said, I am attempting to mirror myself here precisely because I DON'T reveal much about myself in rl.

    If I am wrong, I can admit it. Can you? How about your wife? I have yet to hear either of you say a single positive or constructive comment to anyone, except Raven, whom you consider a sociopath and thus worthy of your approval.

    Perhaps you think I ought to spend more time attacking people, like the two of you?

    But you go ahead and think whatever you want of me Kannit, I truly do not give a flying fig. Just promise ne you won't kiss my shoes; foot fetishes are not my kink. :)

    No danger of that, I suppose. You don't kneel - ever. I'll bet you don't even know what humility feels like.

    @Caroline: How do you feel that if you were better, your family's problems would go away?

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  128. @ Ukan no one likes your stupidities, anymore. Add something useful or shut up.

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  129. You know inside you are worthless because it's true, Caroline. Around you people can see it. It's not low self esteem for you, it's the fucking truth

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  130. @Ukan: Bwahahahaaaa! That is actually, super-cute :) I guess it just really tickles my funny bone, to hear YOU call me a narcissist.

    But I am genuinely curious. *Have* you ever felt humility? Have you ever said anything positive to anyone here other than to Raven? (Of course, you attacked her too, at first.)

    Or are you going to twist this post into an attack too, thereby stunting the potential for meaningful communication, once again?

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  131. No one is worthless. Even a socio has worth. Caroline might feel like she is, but she knows that is just a perception, it is not Truth. Just because you get your jollies from making others feel worth less so you can feel worth more, does not make it Truth, UKan. She may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but even she knows that.

    Caroline, can I ask what it is that you get from coming here and subjecting yourself to this abuse? Is it comfortable for you? Doesnt it only add to your issues?

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  132. Ukan is a comedy show. He is so stooopid lol

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  133. @ Sarah I figured out that answer, last night, but I don't want to share it, as people like UKan will use it to try to wound me.


    Sarah
    You get the same abuse. Why do you come?

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  134. @Caroline

    UKan isn't stupid. He just tells you how it is. Talking about your abuse on a sociopathic site? How stupid is that? If the pain is too strong for you to handle, suicide may be a solution. Or move on for posterity's sake. What's the point of thinking about the pain instead of living your life and trying to forget? And if you can't move on and want to talk about it, you shouldn't be talking about it here. Google "victim of abuse forum" and you'll find thousands of forums with people of your own pathetic kind. They'll give a rat's ass about your problems.

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  135. Please don't tell me you actually get wounded by what anyone says here, Caroline...?

    @Ukan: a narcissist is defined by a set of personality characteristics, but it is funny that you should count the number of pronouns in my posts after swallowing the bait some anon fed you, and use it to bolster your crack analysis. And you are still avoiding my questions. :)

    I have never mentioned what I do for a living, but suffice it to say that in a professional capacity, I function in a completely altruistic position. But I'm a real narc, alright. Always thinking of me, me, ME! :D

    I am sorry, but what is it that you do for a living, again?

    LOL!

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  136. Who is a narc more likely to take advice from, Tony Robbins or Jesus?

    You really put your foot into that big mouth of yours this time, Ukanned. :)

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  137. Ukan is his own dupe, hyping as strength and originality what is, in fact, the most glaring of limitations. He's far too intelligent not to know this.

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  138. He is bright, J. I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

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  139. @ Extremity
    I have my reasons. I can't share them or I will have people like Ukan all over my stuff

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  140. "@ Ukan As a matter of fact, I was the perfect child,"

    OMG Caroline! Did you just tell everyone here that you're perfect?!

    @Haven and Sarah

    We have already been down this road with her. You're not going to get anywhere with her, or help her. It's a revolving door.
    She's here because she is trying to replace the sociopath boyfriend she is still so obsessed with. The one who made her feel as no other man alive, could never! She has this idealized version of what a real sociopath man is, and it's delutional as hell. No matter how many times you kick her in the head to wake her the fuck up, it's not going to work. She won't let go.

    If you want to wear yourself out trying, go for it.... but I'm telling you; you'll never get through. Medusa tried every trick in the book! lol It was the funniest shit I've ever seen on here! But I really don't want to watch it again...

    I don't kick her in the face to teach her lessons... I just kick her to keep her gut in knots!!

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  141. I'm far too intelligent to think you said anything in that sentence J.

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  142. Raven, Im not sure why Im even being nice to Caroline. I come here to vent the shit I cant really vent in my everyday life. I guess I was getting my wires crossed because I was in work world where I help with issues like that. I also saw an opportunity to engage her because now I have a little Caroline/Monica puzzle thanks to you ;) its not entirely amusing, but its a break from the very real world I work in.

    I guess I also answered her question about why I come here. Honestly, it is kind of comforting to me to be surrounded by pds. I let my hair down, get in dirty. Its also helped harden my shell in ways it needed hardening. Mostly, it reminds me that while everything is sacred, nothing is sacred. It helps me refine which parts of me are useful and which are counterproductive. Reminds me not to take it all too seriously. Any of it. It makes me laugh. That enough reasons for you Caroline? Also, I dont take half the shit you do because I (usually and I admit not always lol) think before I type. At least a little. I value the shit I do take, though. Sometimes it makes me think and sometimes it makes me giggle. Either way, its good.

    Also, Im fucked up, didnt ya know?

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  143. A narcissist wouldn't take advice alter. Your religion is a smoke screen for you to hide behind. Its a pride of the fake past thing narcissists do. Talking about how had you used to be and how you changed your life because of jesus. You were nothibg special when you were younger nor are you now that you are older. Its typical of narcissists to boast about how they were such an awful person in the past but reformed miraculously. As if jesus cures sociopathy its fucking laughable. Its hard to take you seriously at all. You were just as full of yourself when you were younger as you are now. This christian bollocks is just a way that you have twisted your uglyness into self righteousness.

    You talk about your sinful past with such pride. You should of heard yourself from here. You took a lot of pride jumping on that young lads cock ajd forcefully seducing him. You took a lot of pride because you felt rejected before. Yes, what a relief. You didn't care about her feelings. You were just so angry that he chose your fat best friend over you. You were jealous of her. You couldn't have that fat cunt have one up on you, that's why you persisted over his protests. You of course mask your boasts as testimony. Ha ha ha. You never really asked forgiveness sincerely alter because you are not sorry you are proud of it. Now you turn your sins into accomplishments like jesus turned water into wine. Envy. Pride. Lust. You are no christian you just a self righteous slut.

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  144. sarah usually sound like a stuck up bitch but she actually sounded cool just now

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  145. ^^^^^^throwing shit against the wall to see if something sticks^^^^^^^

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  146. Ooooh, alter, you got told.

    Ok, Ukan, do me next!

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  147. @ Sarah
    I have my reasons for being here. When I don't, I will be gone lol

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  148. Ukan you are half a man. Fank is Franks brother.

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  149. You don't matter yet J. Go bite someone elses ankles till you become relevant.

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  150. @Sarah

    You don't have to explain, I get it. I don'[t care either way if people are nice to her, or mean. I just don't want to sit through any more counceling sessions with her, that are dumed from the get go.

    Believe me... it's all been tried. All she's going to do is spin your shit in circles. She'll make you think you finally gave her something useful, and that she's going to try to work it out... and the next day she's back here spewing the same catistofic ingnorance and weakness, as before.

    I just don't waste my energy on trying to make a narcissist see themselves. It's all apart of the PD as you well know. The PD's core job is to protect their false image.

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  151. Lol self righteous slut. Thought he was talking about me for a sec there ;)

    I love the way the nword gets tossed around here. We're all narcissists. Its a key component to the pds, especially cluster b. Even those histrionic martyr types are total narcissists. It is why npd is being excised as a seperate pd in the dsm 5.

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  152. @Caroline

    I feel like I should apologize for being rude to you, you're a pretty nice girl. Who abused you?

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  153. If I'm half a man than your brother is no man at all. At least I finish what I start not devote myself to becoming a religious leader and utterly fail at it within a week.

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  154. @ Extremity
    I am not going to say, as you could be a UKan, in disguise lol

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  155. Want to take on my shit Ukan? Leave the ladies alone, buddy.

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  156. True Raven. I truly dont give a fuck about her anyway.

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  157. No you are a basket case slut sarah not a self righteous slut. There's no mistake in that. The word narcissist is reserved for those who properly wear the badge.

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  158. She'll make you think you finally gave her something useful, and that she's going to try to work it out... and the next day she's back here spewing the same catistofic ingnorance and weakness, as before.

    wow the narcissism in this statement is just ..wow. You sound like every narcissistic shrink who walked he earth. Yes yes, your statements have changed my life. I am never going to feel this way again thanks to you. Please. Barf bag, please.

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  159. Ukan Take Fank on. What are you a pussy?

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  160. That was pretty direct extremity

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  161. Its funny when he says basketcase I picture Ally Sheedy in Breakfast Club ;)

    Oh I cant believe UKan talked to me. I feel so special. What an honor. I hope I dont make David jealous.

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  162. @Caroline said...
    @ Extremity
    I am not going to say, as you could be a UKan, in disguise lol

    Nah, lol. I insult people sometimes when I'm here for fun, but really I'm a nice guy. I actually feel bad for people who've been abused. A friend of mine had a boyfriend who abused her. I don't really know what she went through since I wasn't the person getting abused after all, but seeing her like that was painful to me. If you still don't want to talk about it, I'd understand.

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  163. @ Extremity
    Well, why don't you talk about you? Then, I may talk about myself, but I am not promising. Ukan lurks.

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  164. ROFL Extremity. I could feel the warmth of your of your words. Like you are handing her a cup of cocoa and putting you hand on her shoulder. Smooooooooth

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  165. Yeah. I don't throw throw the word around here. I'll say narcissistic at most. But she earned it for sure.

    And guess what Caroline, you might want to learn to explain yourself in a new way. My memory is too good for me to miss this:

    "I have my reasons for being here. When I don't, I will be gone lol"

    You made this same statement as Erin. Almost to the letter.

    You won't ever leave. You'll just keep coming back as other names, and think we'll eventually buy it.
    Fucking sociopath junkie...

    Who the new Socio in your Socio and Juliette?

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  166. TCO is my socio romeo! How did you guess I'm obsessed with idealistic love?

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  167. You just don't like, nice people, Raven. Why IS that?

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  168. @Caroline said..

    Ask me what you want, I'm all yours.

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  169. I watcha bodayyyyy!

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  170. why would someone be a sociopath junkie?

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  171. No Caroline. I just don't like you. And any bitch who chooses the lunatic pupu platter, on the PD menu. I know you. I'm related to someone just like you... and she is a burden and plague to her family.

    In ten years, all 4 of her children will be either dead, locked up, or shooting up in an alley they just turned a trick in.

    You are the epitome of weak and useless. And I'd like nothing more than to squeeze the life from your body, like the puss of a zit! :D

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  172. That's not me. I don't give people away. Even if it is obvious

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  173. Theme Song for SW RegularsJanuary 24, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Extremity's Theme Song


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-y2LUh-9AA

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  174. @ Extremity What kind of woman do you like ?

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  175. I like the ones with the inverted penis labia, who don't talk about their inverted penis labia.

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  176. i have inverted penis labia but i am a sikh. is that a no go?

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  177. I thought you were giving that faith up, Frank. Change of heart?

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  178. i tried bahia but the rice sucks and they smell. Any further ideas?

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  179. Mormonism is pretty in and you can have a few wives.

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  180. anyone else before frank f makes the final decision?

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  181. Raven doesn't like nice people? I'm nice! And she likes me (apparently)! So there!

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  182. It should include idolatry.

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  183. it is a hard decision, as frankfurt is a small person.

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  184. Hi anon! I solved the "Petals Around the Rose"-puzzle! Took me four hours! :D

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