What's the difference between a porsche and a pile of dead babies?I dont have a porsche in my garage.
ha ha...would you rather have the porsche?Have a nice vaca M.E.
"Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools."A. Einstein
That wasn't a joke.
Whats the best part of having sex with an eight year old in the shower?Slicking her hair back and making her look six.
"Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools."And what is Einstein remembered for? Being a reclusive pussy.
Wouldn't anger be a sign that your not affectivly getting what it is that you desire?
Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.Margaret Thatcher^That is TNP referring to UKan's constant boasting.
That's frustration tik...
Also, Notable never said he was a lady, so that makes him one.
He never said he was a faggot either.
Yeah, and an ass-sucking piss drinker. He never said that either.
Has anything lately made anyone really angry?
This fucking idiot cyclist plowed into me last night and knocked me over. I picked up his bike and dumped it on top of him then kicked him a few times when he was down. Looking back now I think it's kind of a funny coincidence considering Adams retarded story obout beating that girl with the bike. That made me pretty angry(obviously).
I think he was drunk as well. Drunk driving isn't exactly out of the ordinary but for some reason the thought of drunk cyclists has never occured to me. It just seems strange for some reason.
Imposter ukan: Don't bite my name just because your too pathetic to make anybody listen to you.Brilliant, misanthrope. I love it.
I have so many more things to boast about anonymous. We haven't even touched the surface of my ego, believe me.I love when people that are nothing shake their fists at the gods denouncing their greatness. Its cute.
To paraphrase Res: It takes a big man to hide behind the anonymity of the internet ::laughs:: Man up or shut up.
That's just what people who are annoyed by anonymity say so that anonymous people come out of the hide-out.
I know someone who has 21 drunk driving tickets and never drove a car. They are all for riding a bicycle. LOL
To paraphrase Res: It takes a big man to hide behind the anonymity of the internet ::laughs::Man up or shut up.Lol, a self injurer telling us to man up or shut up, man up? I'm guessing your a little more sentimental than i am. It's not our fault you got raped.
People with BPD often experience something medically termed Being an Emo Douchebag (BED). They like to go on frantic emotional rants, often on their LiveJournal and they can't relate to other people, making them sad-sack loners. This often leads to them becoming self-injurers and possibly even An heroes because nobody understands them, not even themselves. This symptom of self injury has led every emo in the world to e-diagnose themselves with BPD.
Why borrow my screen name if your not even going to use it against me? Troll better you little freak.
I got big time angry few years ago and then with my ex socio/narc a few months ago. Anger in general is an issue for me. If can talk my way into thinking no one is out to get me, I'm cool. But it is a struggle. Once in a while, though, people are really out to get me... That is another story. I hold it in for as long as I can, but when ready and in rare moods it is a perfect storm.
When i am angry it's at the world, one person can piss me off, then i will be murderously angry, i degrade anyone who i come into contact with until i feel good again.
Angry... Spending every minute of every day being normal. Lives alone, keeps to themselves may not be a good tactic but it would be a lot more relaxing than great family member, lots of friends. It's driving me insane.
Adam, when you degrade do you plan in advance or it is impulsive?
Anon 10:24Do you exercise?
Of course. Why?
It differs, usually impulsive.
That's me above.
What happened to Postmodern sociopath?
I am curious, that's all. -Not everyone takes advantage of the powerful effects of exercise. But (IMO) if you're planning in advance that is another thing.. So why the insanity? Again, just curious. Don't get your knickers in a knot
What? From the whole family/friends thing? It's just a phrase. In all seriousness though, it's a lot of effort, no tea breaks. And people can be very annoying. No chances to relax and be yourself.. What ever that is.
He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still” Lao Tzu (Authentic Power)“The best happiness a woman can boast is that of being most carefully deceived”George James (Games of Lust)“To greed, all nature is insufficient.” Seneca (Desire for More)Thatcher would smile . . .
I was wondering about Post too. Anger is ugly when it's not balanced out with a good sense of humor. Too much anger can kill you. Exercise is great way to dissolve some of it.
Too much anger can kill youIt sure can make you a bitter person, but kill you? How do you figure?
I'm talking over a lifetime. It can eat away at a person. And so can guilt.
that's why exercise can help. people don't realize this. it can cause high blood pressure, even a heart attack.
Yeah about guilt... Not so much. I always wondered about people and stress. I have low blood pressure but I don't worry about things/people much if at all.
are you a sociopath?
Looks like it.
12:29 anon:Seneca. Yeah this place IS kinda like a Roman Circus. Hmm no wonder xo
My blood pressure is always unusually low.
People don't get mad at you being anonymous, they just have no respect for you. Usually people who use it are people who got fucked with, and are so embarrassed they have to hide their name now. The others are new people afraid to put a name on you in case they say something stupid that can be attributed to them, or regulars saying something so stupid they wouldn't have it attached to their normal name. In the time of been on sociopathworld it has been rare to see anyone anon post anything above fart jokes or naivety.
Ouch. The truth hurts. Do it again please.
As my ex's ex said regarding our ex:"I've learned to run to the hills when I meet someone who has to tell me what they are."
Well some people are just dumb, you need to explain to them. Your like I have been robbing you all week. How dim witted are you? I'm going to take some more money out of your purse now okay? Wow, you still think I'm good don't you? You fucking dimwit.
No, not like that.He would go around trying to convince everyone and himself that he was "honorable" and "a good man". It was some kind of theme for him, and so so far from the truth.
Anyone got any suggestions on how to alleviate boredom in a young socio/psychopath?
You shouldn't boast about things like that otherwise people will realise that your insincere.So what did he do to you?
Something else about the cyclist was that he was wearing flip flops. Who the fuck wears flip flops in the middle of january and while riding a bike?anon. Drink heavily then go out onto the street and where the night takes you.
Nice, but it gets old very quickly.
So what did he do to you?You talking to me?
Ha, Medusa. I know someone like that. He's a loser. He tries to convince everyone how trustworthy he is and how he's a good person. He's nothing but a mooching bottom feeder. I refuse to associate with him and people think I'm being judgemental. Nobody sees it, because their suckers.
Sometimes you actually have to do things to gain people's trust. Not everyone will just take your word for it, but the one's that do are the best. Has anyone else noticed that when you give your word or swear on your life, alot of people just automatically believe that you'll keep your promise. I've never understood that. What are they going to do if you break your promise, kill you? It's crazy.
You know what Tik, I woke up today angry.My girl now stays home and doesnt go to the club with me, so I can keep her seperate. I drive a hour and a half, spend eight hours there and drive a hour and a half back. I get home around 7am. I woke her up and asked for some breakfast and she makes me oatmeal. I fucking hate oatmeal. I got mad and she made me a breakfast sandwich. I go to sleep and wake up in the afternoon, and I'm hungry again. I ask her for some nachos (my favorite), and she get some fucking shredded wheat crackers with cheese and tomatoe. What the fuck is this shit? I dont eat health food on Sundays. I'm saving health food for a special occassion like when I get fat, or when the doctor forces me to. I told her "What the fuck, this isnt nachos!" I was texting a warning to a friend of mine who was trying to make moves at one of my earners club. That got me angry, because he didn't call me ahead of time or ask. He thinks he can walk in and out of the game at will. He's fucking wrong. While I'm doing this I'm telling my girl that people like that is why I keep my house out of the city, so I can strike without people knowing where I am. She starts contradicting me! How is she going to define my motivations? I had enough and started getting verbally abusive till she got that whole silent thing.If I work hard I want to be rewarded. The last thing I want at home is awful food and shit conversation.
Ukan, damn, what, is this 1950?Why such entitlement?You woke her up to make you breakfast? Come on, dude. I'm sure you can feed yourself sometimes.She puts up with you, the least you could do is let her sleep.I'm guessing that the 'silent thing' is probably borne of a deep feeling of helplessness. Her making you not what you want is probably the best she knows how to protest without putting herself in danger.
Chill out Medusa. If I ever get round to going on a killing spree he's on the list. Not that I care about the woman, I just abhor stupidity. He's like the gangsters in my town, no tact, subtlety, real intelligence or class.
Sometimes you actually have to do things to gain people's trust. Not everyone will just take your word for itYeah, I didn't take his word for it, due to his history of being untrustworthy, and somehow it was my fault I couldn't trust him."You will never trust me. Nothing I can do about that."He never even tried to gain my trust back after losing it. I suppose he just felt entitled to it, because of some apologies by text message.God, I hate how I'm still so angry. Takes everything I've got to keep myself from destroying him in one way or another.
Kill him!... Then send us photos.
My house is the 1950s. Entitlement has nothing to do with it. If I work and you stay home, you have to do something. You think I'm supposed to go out there and risk my neck everyday, while someone sits around at home doing nothing? THAT is entitlement.You want a example look at your ex. Sitting around doing drugs while you took care of the bills. How did you feel about that?
He'll probably be dead soon enough. A couple of times when I was with him I looked at him and thought "this is a dying man".Not sure where the feeling came from.
What would she protest about? Before blowing up at her about all this shit I didnt do anything to make her protest. I especially didnt do anything to deserve wheat crackers, oatmeal, and arguements. This is the first week she got to stay home, and she was very happy. Now it seems like she took my kindness for weakness.
UKan, he's been clean for a decade. I did not have anything to do with his bills.Does she not have a job?
No she is a homemaker
Medusa, you have no idea, you would be doing the same thing as UKan's girl if you met a socio, they would put the fear of god into you.
The only thing that didn't seem conscientious or reasonable was waking her up to make him food. Besides that, if you're a homemaker as a life/career choice, the least you can do is act like you give a damn. Anything less would send almost anyone off the handle.If she doesn't want to be the homemaker, and do her duties for that sort of position, then she needs to go out and make money too. It's only fair.Some people aren't cut out to be homemakers, and the lifestyle doesn't suit them. They get too used to living life, and or being independent. Maybe that's her thing, maybe she's just adjusting (poorly).
I met one (why do you think I'm here?), and I didn't put up with that bullshit for very long at all, so you are incorrect. I do have some self-respect.Ukan's girl has got herself trapped, though.
Not all socios need fear as a tactic.
I'm around. Haven't read in weeks. New layout's not bad, ME.
We have a defined relationship. People tell us everywhere we go that they want a relationship like ours. I know how you view it, with all your gender politics, medusa. This is the way she wants it. She is anti feminist, even though she's a liberal. I believe in more gender equality than she does. She dresses 50s and listens to 50s music. When we first started dating I told her anthing she did for me frequently I would feel entitled to later. That's how I function, right or wrong. She put in effort where she felt comfortable. Is she trapped? Yes, but she created her own trap. Like what Not Able said, do your job. I go to work thinking of US and striving to make the most money I can every night. Last night I hit a high amount. I expected to be welcomed home with a feast, not fucking sleeping, oatmeal, and wheat crackers.
I wouldn't mind being financially supported, but at the same time I would resent having to cook and clean out of obligation, rather than because I enjoy doing it, or because it was a conscious choice.I don't think I could ever live that kind of life. I couldn't handle feeling even a little bit like slave.UKan, did you ask your girl to not work, or was it her choice? I seem to recall you not wanting her to work? How would you feel if she decided to get a job and be a little more independent? Would you feel threatened?
I guess she loves you UKan. She wants you to eat better so you'll live longer and she can have you longer. That's why women do that. Not to pick a fight. Hi Post!
That's just it, Medusa. You aren't cut out for it.I've known plenty of women that love being homemakers, and plenty who despise it. You're either going to be one or the other. There has to be the pleasure in nurturing others to make it work. It's not about loving your partner, it's about being a natural nurturer, which some people just are.If you feel like you would be a slave, then clearly you aren't cut out for it. Not a bad thing, just something you should realize if you haven't already.
I wouldn't mind being supported. I could handle cleaning/cooking a few hours a day. Then I could go to the gym and head to classes. Maybe I feel that way because I've never had that.
People tell us everywhere we go that they want a relationship like ours.Come on, you know people only see the facade. You tell us all the time yourself that you are abusive towards her in private. How many of those 'people' are aware of this? How many of those people know she thinks of you as an evil demon? Also, it's not about gender politics. If she seemed happy in her situation, well great! I really don't care. But she sounds unhappy, resentful, helpless and lost, at least from what you tell us here.Also, the 60s blew the happy facade off the 50s, in case you forgot. Sounds like she is attached to the facade of the 50s.I wear 50s dresses but that doesn't mean I want to be a housewife or actually pretend that I live in the 50s beyond any sort of superficial image, does it? Ridiculous justification there.
In euros, I make close to 200k a year. What contribution will she make to that with no degree? When I started dating her she quit her job in a few weeks, because she was so caught up with me she couldn't leave. We seriously haven't been apart for a entire day in a couple of years. We complimant each other. She fills in the blanks and helps me act less reckless and more civilized. More calculated even.She is rational, and tries to hide her emotions. She's pretty strong minded. She refuses to cry and when she has she has done it, she did out of my sight because she does not want to be seen as weak in front of me.She's not some squirming victim getting beaten into chores. She's spoiled. She gets what she wants when she wants and for that what I ask is very little.
What's funny is I actually really do enjoy cleaning and keeping house. I can't cook, but I'm good at and like all the other stuff.BUT I WON'T DO IT OUT OF OBLIGATION.I only do it because I want to. Or if I feel appreciated.If I ever do decide to be a housewife, it would only be tolerable (and I would probably enjoy it) if I truly felt appreciated.Otherwise, it feels like slavery.
All very interesting, none of this solves my boredom though. Come on oh wise and aged socios, how do you handle it
you can start by eating a dick it will probabbly do you wonders
Reflect on your past, i can't remember yesterday, it's hard to have good memories of others when all you see them as is cardboard cut outs.
Ukan, it's not so much about how much of a financial contribution she can make compared to yours, it's more about having a sense of control over one's life.If you have to hide your true feelings/self from the man you are going to marry (especially out of fear)... you are really setting yourself up for destruction. I suppose most people do this, and I suppose this is why most marriages fail.She's made her choice, though.
Define abusive? I said I hit her head through the wall last year when we were drunk and playfighting. Besides that I have never laid a finger on her. I verbally abuse her though. I apolagize to her later when I calm dow. All couples fight, but I cut people with my words. Imagine what its like with a cutting voice behind it.
Already did that mate, pretty dull.And I have a really bad memory as well.
She has pride. Its not hiding your feelings. I admire it. Most women lack pride and they try to guilt you with their tears.
Verbal abuse is just as bad, if not worse, love. More insidious and mind-fuckerying.
You are backtracking. tries to hide her emotionsYour words. Now you are conveniently saying that it's pride.And I believe you've said before that you think that pride is a lame trait.
This just got interesting.
I have been told that as well, that's part of the reason why i was kicked out, my parents say my words are extremely hurtful, sometimes people ask me how i can wound people with my words, why I'm so good at pointing out vulnerability in people, I ask them how they can't see it.
Actually, yeah. Ever get a good answer as to why they don't see it?
My ex's super-subtle ambient abuse affected me way more than the one time a dude tried to choke me to death.
People generally avoid me after a while, I'm almost impossible to outwit in an argument, my aunt walks out of the room when i bring my friends over, i humiliate her in front of them and I'm overly sarcastic, i know what society accepts and what it doesn't, I'm completely normal by societies standards, so freaks are easy targets. I told you guys a while back how i attacked my aunt, at the time i wasn't sure why i did it, now i know it was my sub conscience looking for control. If you act like
I didn't mean that >>> if you act like
I would have pride too, if i was given that much of a persons selective memory :)
The above was in reference to her not crying in front of me. She should hide her emotions from me. I use them against people. It's who I am. I am verbally abusive, and it is worse than physical abuse. However its who I am. In relationships you take the good and the bad about someone.
Anyone else have a complete disregard for social relationships? Even with friends, i never try to put them ahead of myself, they talk about their family and how much they care about them, i take a step back and think of what goes through their head, i never think of making a person happy or try to reinforce a relationship, my mental landscape is dull, i don't know i guess people bore me.
Heh, you are so back and forth tonight, changing the facts/truths with each comment. I know you are aware of your own bullshit, though.
UKan, would you smash it?
to cut a long story short, (I can get verbiose sometimes), I agree with Medusa on every point.I definately am a natural nurturer, but grew up with a very narcy, brain-dead, patriarchal dad who was abusive to my mum, (physical and verbal) and as a result it gave me a distaste for being a homemaker since I associated it with abuse and the annihilation of the self. blah blah blah can't be bothered to go on, but basically, i'm still a nurturer but can't stand to be told what to do if it's done in that way that makes narcissists such delightful creatures.~Ukan, fair warning to you...your kids may have no respect for you, and fear means nothing when respect is out the window.If marriage is about compromise, then that most certainly includes respect. It's kind of a minimum.I'm not saying you are anything like my dad, I have no idea. I'm just giving my own experiences.
verbose not verbiose. :D
@notmeLet them hate me, so long as they fear me. - Caligula
I'm like your pops on steroids, you'd have more than BPD if i raised you.
My mom is a homemaker. She came of age in the 50s (my parents were pretty old when they had me). She wanted to be a singer. She got trapped, and eventually took it out on me.
Used to. Now I try to make them work, just in case I do something unwise, being seen as the lives alone, keeps to themselves type would not help my case. People are boring most of the time. They can be fascinating though, they're so irrational and just, weird. And, brilliantly stupid. Wasted time though I reckon, an unsolvable puzzle. Mostly they're just frustrating.
Ha ha, Medusa you must have dated him a while. Clever girl.
3 months the first time, 6 months the second. So not really.
'Let them hate me, so long as they fear me. - Caligula'keep telling yourself that. It's futile and doesn't work. Certainly not with those with a modicum of self-respect and awareness. In my opinion.
Who should I listen to? Caligula or poor little you?
I'd love to be a homemaker to a non-abusive man who works full-time out of the home.I think in many ways, if you enjoy your own company for long periods of time and that of any children you have, it's the most freedom *the average* and *otherwise self-supporting* woman can have for 8+ hours on weekdays - a 'get out of jail free card' in terms of family to stay with plus (hidden) savings is important to avoid entrapment though.Yes, I'd be serving a man but chances are I would be in the working world anyway, and I couldn't care less if people looked down on me for not making the 'most' of myself. I also think it would be *far* less stressful than working full-time; doing housework, chores and childcare after work; plus relationship nurturance and entertaining as well. Why would any woman *choose* to do all of that unless she had been brainwashed by society to see it as a 'successful' life?Sure, I'd be cleaning, cooking, and doing mindless chores for most of the day, but I'd rather be doing that for big and little people I adored than be chained to a desk in a pointless cubicle farm with a bunch of kunts who couldn't care less about me – nor I them. Don't even get me started on the slave commute, no freedom to move around or spend the day outside, and the requirement to baa or be punished.If I had time during the day to fit in a spot of reading or study in between doing my homemaking duties I'd be in heaven. I've never understood what it is that homemakers with no children or school aged children do all day that requires them to be at home – but I envy them their comparatively royal lifestyles.Personally, I think more working men are trapped by the mindlessness of the daily grind than (non-abused) homemakers, especially men who earn low wages or never achieve their dreams, but the difference is that society pats them on the back for it and tells them that they're doing something incredibly important for themselves, their family, and the world.
YAY! how cool is that, M.E changed the backdrop to how I asked him/her to. I feel so special, cheers M.E. It looks great now, it's something to look at. :DBtw lots of peeps have been missing, super aspie, aerianne, pythias etc. Hey Post. If your reading i've got an extra special link for you. Wait for it...
Edit: more working men *and working women* are trapped by the mindlessness of the daily grind than (non-abused) homemakers
You think you are different than her Medusa, you are not. You are very similiar.
Medusa is a female bodybuilder
Caligula was assassinated fairly quick after he became a Caesar. All that fear and hate didn't help him in the long run.The words do ring true though, if you think about it. If someone hates you, and doesn't fear you, you're in quite the pickle.
I would much rather stay at home all day than have some stupid job, for sure.That's pretty much what I do now. I'd be happy to cook and clean and be a homemaker, as long as I have time to write, do music, stuff like that that actually matters to me. As long as I am respected and not treated like a waiter or a maid.
Adam, you should always listen to poor little me. Did you mother teach you nothing.For Postmodern-hehe
Didn't Post already share that link?wv: bumsockOy vey
dunno, probs. :Pbumsock, oh god that's good. :Dare you guys happy about the moon? I am. :O
Fall out boy are amazing live, saw them last night.
Actually I will have to take my last comment back.No matter how nice the guy was, I would start to feel like an employee. Getting 'paid' to do a job.I don't deal well with being anyone's employee. Problems with authority or some shit. Hence why I work for myself now.And even if the guy didn't make much money, my pride would make me feel like a gold digger.I'm thinking that you would actually have to be the same sort of person who would work in a cubicle to be able to handle being a homemaker.Unless you have children and they are your life and you don't mind sacrificing your own for theirs.
She's hardly a maid or servant. She does what she wants 90% of the time. You get told what to do more in any other job.
And unless it felt more like my husband and I were in 'business' together in terms of keeping a home. As opposed to it being a trade agreement.Or something.
Deep down most women want to be homemakers. Its built in the,.
So is empathy. I guess thats another thing I missed out on.
If someone woke me up demanding breakfast, I'd feel like a servant. No matter how much freedom I have the rest of the day.
Gotta love it when men think they know what women want more than women do.
Deep down, everyone would prefer not to have to have a job. Not a gender thing.
Being a homemaker *is* a job in terms of basically running a guy's life for them and being their personal assistant - it's just one I'd rather have than most including self-employment because it comes with (a little more) security. I had my last manager ringing me on Friday nights and Sunday nights *including after midnight* until I stopped answering and pointed out it's not in my contract to pick up the phone after hours - what's the difference to someone waking you up to demand breakfast?Both actions are indeed totally disrespectful - but there are plenty of guys who don't treat homemakers like slaves and it's up to the individuals involved to work out their roles including what they're prepared or not prepared to do *shrugs*
My girlfriend told me that. I disagreed with her. Now from the responses here, I think shes right.
Right, I assume I know what women want? That phrase came from a women. You obviously dont know what you want, and have admitted you have no idea what your gender is.
Ha ha what? What does gender have to do with what I want or don't want?It's pretty simple — I want to be able to live well and do what I want without having to work crap jobs for someone else. I have no ambivalent feelings about that. Isn't that what most people want, regardless of gender?You said, "deep down most women want to be homemakers."Do you know 'most' women? You just said that phrase came from a single person.
Medusa, are you bi?Also, are you neither very feminine nor very masculine?
For the record, I also hate when women think they know what all other women want deep down.
Not actively bi.Not actively straight either, at the moment, for that matter.I am both very feminine and very masculine. Definitely tread the line in terms of socially established roles, always have.
Is that not what your doing. Every other women in here just agreed with her, except you. I think you are the one assuming what women want.I hate when women develop a wall because the one time they made themselves vulnerable someone took advantge of it.
What i mean is that are you confused about your sex and sexuality? as in physiologically.Ukan said you 'have no idea what your gender is.'
So, UKan, the two women here, on a sociopath blog no less, represents all women? Also, you missed the fact that I agreed, even if for only a limited time. Until I actually thought it through.Again, most people don't want to work if they don't have to, male or female. It's just easier for women to do that, or admit to it, without having the stigma of being a parasite, though it is less and less as time goes by.Be clearer in how exactly I am pretending to know what all women want? I've only been speaking for myself. I do say most people want the most return for the least investment. Nothing to do with gender.And what 'wall' do you mean? Do you mean that you think because I don't want to be a homemaker it means I have a 'wall' up?notme: Ukan phrases it like that to make me look confused in his effort to win an argument, but I'm not.I couldn't care less what gender I am, whatever the fuck that even means with regards to anything beyond sex organs. I am what I am, I like what I like.Physically I am obviously female (no I'm not a tranny if that is what you are asking), personality wise I am me.
If you dont know what gender you are, you are confused. You are a women. Now you know.The ratio was fitting. All the women in this room and my girlfriend vs a women who doesnt know her gender.
We know what wall were talking about Medusa. Dont pretend.
Gender is more than the physical aspects. You know that.I play metal guitar. Does that mean I am 'confused' because that's a 'guy thing' or does it simply mean that I like guitar and I like metal?Take a biracial black/white person. Most people would see them as black. Similar to how playing metal guitar is seen as 'male'.Should the biracial person be forced to identify themselves as 'black' instead of 'biracial'?Should I pick up an acoustic guitar and start playing Jewel songs?This is what I mean when I say I have no gender. I don't care about social expectations crap, or roles.The only thing that makes me female is my vagina, and other's expectations.
Culture and gender are two different things. One is sociological and the other is psychological.
I really don't know what wall you mean.Do you think the 'independent woman' thing, or however you see it, is a wall?
You're a softy. I see through you. One day it will come crashing down on you.
Gender is also sociological. Obviously! Otherwise you wouldn't have used the term 'gender politics' earlier. Nor would you have said "most women want this or that".
oh ok, i get ya Medusa.Ukan, 'I hate when women develop a wall because the one time they made themselves vulnerable someone took advantage of it'i smell contradiction. I thought you and all socios looked down on trusting people?I think maybe what you mean by a wall, is self-denial or whatever. Right?The only thing i agreed with is that I am a nurturer and always will be. I don't agree with abuse and control though. by the way, i used to love jewel. Hate her new stuff. But her voice is my fave female voice.
Women are nurturing with few exceptions. I don't believe you are one of them for a second.
Distrust is good. That's not the wall I'm speaking of.
Hello. I can tell you that "most women" are not happy working, serving, mothering, OR being spoiled rotten. You pick the life you've chosen for a reason and you take the good with the bad. And if you're lucky enough to find someone you can tolerate living with, if the sex is good, all bad is usually forgotten ;)
And what 'wall' do you mean?The wall you create around yourself that makes you like a spiteful bitch with a chip on her shoulder between her crying, pathetic sessions where you seek comfort and approval.You aren't here to learn how to survive from a bite wound and avoid it down the line. You're here to try and kick sharks in the nose and laugh about it until you get bitten again.Your tough girl act is a weak wall at best, inviting the indignation and aggression of others. You're like an animal in the wild trying to use the color patterns of a toxic cousin, praying you won't get gobbled up since you're powerless against it.It's why you were trampled the first time, and why it will happen again. You can't accept who you are and instead you embrace a petty facade that mocks empowerment when in reality it makes you look foolish and vulnerable to anyone who looks long enough.
One day it will come crashing down on me? Dude, it already did.
Gender and gender politics are seperate. Very seperate. Modern gender politics in its extreme denies gender exists. I went to a womens conference with a girlfriend I had several years ago, and heard with transgendered female speak. They project themselves as a minority onto the majority of women, which is crazy. A majority of women have a clear identity of what gender they are.
'Women are nurturing with few exceptions. I don't believe you are one of them for a second.'Ukan, is this addressing me or Medusa?
I am extremely nurturing when I am in love. Otherwise, not so much.Speaking of walls.... I think a good amount of sociopaths are borne from putting up such a wall. Such extreme sensitivity at a young age caused the formation of such a huge coping mechanism.
Mila speaks the truth.
Lol, TNP finally found an opening to attack me, and such an opening where he would also have UKan's support, because he can't do anything without waiting for someone else's opinion first.
"You aren't here to learn how to survive from a bite wound and avoid it down the line. You're here to try and kick sharks in the nose and laugh about it until you get bitten again."Not true, but I can see why you'd think that since you defend paranoid socios."Your tough girl act is a weak wall at best, inviting the indignation and aggression of others." Threat?"makes you look foolish and vulnerable to anyone who looks long enough."stop looking then?
I wasn't talking to you, Mila.And I don't have the most seminal record of collaborating with UKan. Once again, you take an attack aimed at trying to open your eyes and spit in its face without applying logic first.Stupid. Spiteful. Bitch.You'll get every bit of agony you deserve, and then some.
You aren't here to learn how to survive from a bite wound and avoid it down the line.You're right, I'm not here for that, nor did I ever say I was. Why the hell would I come to sociopaths to have them teach me how to survive a sociopath? Are you kidding me?I survived the bite wound without you, oh Master of Wisdom and Sage Advice, believe it or not.I am here for the logic games, and to pick apart people's brains as well as my own. Education and self-exploration, not survival.It's why you were trampled the first timeYou should see the other guy.I mock empowerment? No, I mock bullshit.
Yeah, calling me a stupid spiteful bitch cunt is really effective in opening my eyes!!!!!Jesus christ, would you quit pretending to be so magnanimous and God's gift to mankind?And I don't have the most seminal record of collaborating with UKan.Which is exactly why you took this opportunity. You know I am more apt to take UKan seriously than I will ever take you.
Logic games? Tossing the chess board over and scattering pieces all over the floor when you don't get your way is not playing the game.You're a one sided, one-way, bullshit cannon.Compared to you, I'm the goddamn, fucking Buddha when it comes to wisdom.
Ukan, you didn't answer my question. Were you addressing me or Medusa?
Compared to you, I'm the goddamn, fucking Buddha when it comes to wisdom.Lol. I'd like to see a poll on that one.Man, you sure are upset over a mere stupid spiteful bitch cunt. Looks like weakness to me.
notme, pretty sure he was talking to me.We all know you are nurturing :)
oh ok. i was gonna say, i fell off my chair. lol
Anger is my natural reaction when I see stupidity and weakness in others.
I'm feeling all awkward right this moment. Friends? Maybe? No? Ok...carry on then...
I suppose, to make you happy, I should be crying all day and cutting myself and should be coming here every day shouting "WHY OH WHY?? WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ME? I'M SUCH A VICTIM OH NOES! I'M A HELPLESS IDIOT! I'M HURTING SO MUCH INSIDE! HELP ME, OH ALL YOU GOD-LIKE MEN!"Being strong in the face of extreme pain is apparently a bad and stupid thing, and obviously threatening to you.Anger is my natural reaction when I see stupidity and weakness in others.Sounds like weakness to me.As tik said up above:Wouldn't anger be a sign that your not affectivly getting what it is that you desire?
More of your same old bullshit. I'd be surprised if anyone here was fooled by it.You're not being strong in the face of extreme pain. You're just wearing a mask of ridicule.You're right, I'm not getting what I desire. Your vacuous drivel is still here because you can't own up to what you need to do.
Good Lord, you really do live in your own make-believe world, now don't you?I cannot take any of this personally or seriously, because I know you are having woman problems. Take it out on her if you have to take it out on someone. Or better yet, take it out on yourself.I'm not a stand-in.
P.S. My favorite thing about you is your ubiquitous imaginary posse.
My woman problems? *laughs*Your constant erroneous cold reads and vacuous commentary is a testament to your fundamentally flawed and vulnerable mind. You can't play the game this late in life. You missed that day in school, and the only time you'll get it right is when you're lucky.If by stating that most people with a competent mind will see past your bullshit is claiming that I have a posse against you, coupled with the fact that you think I am seeking to have UKan back me up, then you are one severely delusional and paranoid individual.The only person living in a make-believe world here is you.
Not a cold read at all. You said so yourself and you also recently said you are going through some really hard times.By posse, what I mean is that you always need to conjure up support from the outside for yourself and your opinions for some reason. You can never seem to speak solely for yourself.Do you see yourself as weak on your own? I feel sorry for you that your manipulations and gaslighting attempts do not work very well, you, who pretends to be the Sociopathic Guru Bizarro Donna Here To Help You.The more your attempts to make me feel weak fail, the stronger I feel. Clearly this is the opposite of your intentions.You are shooting yourself in the foot.
'By posse, what I mean is that you always need to conjure up support from the outside for yourself and your opinions for some reason. You can never seem to speak solely for yourself.'actually, Ukan does this a lot.Having said that, I think you and Note should just get a room. ;)
I'm not having woman problems or hard times right now, nor feel weak, so no, you aren't right.I don't need to conjure up support to prove a point. I know I'm right.My point isn't to make you feel weak. It's to open your eyes. Any way I word it will garner the same reaction from you, and as you are rarely a civil person, what's the point in using kid gloves?No one's trying to gaslight you or strike you down. I'm just tired of your same old, pseudo tough-girl BS. You contributions usually amount to shitting on people for the sake of shitting on them, which you've already admitted to. Even the sociopaths here amount to more in the realms of helping and having dialog, and we're notoriously indifferent and harmful.That says a lot for your character.
UKan doesn't throw people into some sort of "we" and "us" category. Or pull some "us against you" bullshit out of thin air. Not that I've seen. But anyway, this is not a Ukan vs TNP competition.One of brothers does that shit. Pretends he's speaking for everyone without even knowing anyone's opinion. Or assumes everyone's opinion is the same as his. "We agree on this and that. We feel this way and that way." Without actually consulting anyone.Annoying as fuck all.
You are one black kettle, love.Who do I shit on? You, when you are being as asshole. I don't do it when you are not being an asshole. UKan, when he is full of bullshit, but he can take it. Anons who are being dicks for the sake of being dicks. Not sure who else I shit on. Enlighten me.Oh, SHIT, I forgot, TNP = EVERYONE, therefore since I shit on you, by transitive I am shitting on everyone in the world. Right?I don't throw empty insults out like you do. "Stupid" "cunt" "bitch" "vacuous". You know I am not any of those things (and, to use your handy technique, I hardly think most people here think that about me, but I don't really care), you just say them for effect, or because that's the best arsenal you have. That, my dear, is what I call shitting on someone for the sake of shitting on them. Like a child when things don't go his way who starts throwing his toys against the wall. When I shit on someone I use logic.You want to open my eyes? Really? Laughable. What, do you care about me or something? What kind of sociopath are you? Are you oh so sad that I am blinded to your truth and that is why you are so angry? "The poor lost child I tried to save her from herself!"
Trying to gaslight me now? Laughable. Your senseless squabbles with many are readily available throughout the archives.I typically avoid that language with people, but I find you especially tasteless and base, so why bother holding back?No, Medusa. You are vacuous in my eyes, and a complete fool. You've done nothing to prove otherwise.Your version of logic in arguments is avoiding the point and finding loopholes to crawl through and empty your bile.I'm the kind of sociopath who is tired of your verbal diarrhea and volatile weakness pouring out day in and day out. Anything to reduce it would be a godsend, at this point.
How is asking for examples of your claims gaslighting? You can't even do that, instead you go back to empty insults: 'fool', 'vacuous'. Without even bothering to back up your claims with any kind of logic or examples.I already just used 'laughable'. Come up with your own words, christ.And yes, you did say you were going through a hard time recently. Not sure if it was here or your blog, but you did say that. Don't lie and say you didn't.I'm all for having my eyes opened, but you are not capable of that. You are stuck in fitting everyone into your version of the world. Your version of the world is not appealing to me.Here's some advice, since I bother you so much — go hang out at your own blog instead of here, where you can garner all the praise you desire and require to feel whole, instead of trying to bleed it out of me.This is not your blog. Did you know that?
Volatile, you say. There's the keyword right there. You have a weakness for volatile women.The BPD love-of-your-life that you lost, and all.Do you want the control back that you didn't have with her?Trying to fix something in your head through me, or some fucked up bullshit like that?Or what?Just trying to figure out why I get to you so much, but it is power, though, isn't it? Not one I asked for or are interested in, but there it is nonetheless. A power you clearly resent and/or envy, a power that I could give two shits about possessing.Pisses you off, I guess.
Thatcher was brilliant.
*sigh* I had hoped for something more from this. You guys really need to study yourselves. Everyone has flaws, you should probably double check yours before you start an argument. I don't even like empaths but she clearly won.
Wow. I haven't read too many posts by TNP, but Medusa really put him in his place here. I'm glad I didn't read this after having established some kind of respect for him. I'd feel like a moron right about now.
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