Sunday, April 26, 2009

How did you become you?

Shocked (and impressed) question from a friend after I explained to her how to seduce her crush. I didn't tell her, only smiled in response. She wouldn't understand.

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  1. I've gotten this question too, from a few observant souls (and there aren't many). A girl I knew in high school asked me this, then spent a few years trying to be me and tagging along and this annoyed me.
    Did a little ruining. She's spent 3 stints in a mental hospital, her fiance will always love me and the last time I saw her in public she began shaking visibly and dropped her things at the cashier's desk.

    Do you ever get any wannabes, and what do you do with them?

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  2. Check out the "chapters" section - "The Seductive Process" (there are 28 steps) in this book. Sounds like a total primer for the sociopath Don Juan (or Donna Juanita). But seriously, for all the work that something like this would take, if done well and thoroughly (which would probably take months), shouldn't a person just freakin' marry their object of seduction? Or is the thrill of the successful seduction done a few times in a lifetime good enough to 'satisfy' a sociopath? Yeesh. Why waste one's time?

    http://www.seductionbook.com

    This guy who was in my life recently - it seems like he followed a lot of the steps, but some don't quite apply, and some weren't done all that sneakily. He's probably either just a narcissist (and perhaps a malignant one at that) or just really young and insecure (although pretty intelligent).

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  3. Jane wrote: "Do you ever get any wannabes, and what do you do with them?"

    My suggestion: make use of them.

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  4. Jane it would have been better if you had kept her on side. I agree with the other post, why waste your time?? I don't think there is anything intelligent about your "ruining". You sound more like a neurotic bunny boiler. Maybe you should have been in the next padded cell. Ha ha ha. If that had been me then id have made sure her fiance broke up with her by getting to know everything about him and "being" the girl of his dreams, then got him to marry me....only if he was wealthy though else whats the point?

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  5. oh and then i would have made sure there was no "pre nup" because he would be soooo blindly in love with me, id stay married for the a few years, whilst becoming the woman of his nightmares, id make sure the sex was bad and i'd let myself go a bit (maybe stop shaving and living in my p j's) forcing him to look elsewhere, then i'd make sure i got solid proof (maybe hire a detective to take a few pictures), then file for divorce and take him for half of everything he owns. Then i'd set up house somewhere else, find another rich dick and do it all over again. I'd make a career out of it.

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  6. You sound like a wannabe sociopath yourself my lovely little anon lady.

    One thing I have figured out is that I don't use people intentionally and that it just seems to happen on a subconscious level; and in the end, I always end up getting some sort of positive benefit while whoever gets the negative.

    No one contemplates over what to do with someone; you shouldn't have to. You're a moron and easy to read; I can see through you like water.

    Fascinated with Sociopaths to the point where you want to become one are you? I don't know why anyone would want to become one; believe me, the price of freedom is loneliness.

    - Anon Sociopath.

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  7. Who would want to be a sociopath Dove, even your user name is symbolic of something you will never achieve. Don't call me a moron. To brag about putting someone in a mental institute 3 times, well that sounds like a wanna be sociopath. I am not/would not want to be a sociopath, but if your going to use someone at least do it properly.(oh and yes you do use people "intentionally") My mother was genuis at it. Im a bitch not a sociopath.

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  8. A sociopath has a personality disorder. This site is almost like "woe is the sociopath", and its irritating. Your not free Dove if your lonely. To be free is to feel good, to feel alive, to be lonely is depressing and isolating. That to me is a contradiction? Just because you are a sociopath doesn't mean you have no purpose in life or no meaning, so get a grip! What is worse? A sociopath who does something mean...or an empath who does something mean? The sociopath knows no different, the empath knows better. Being an empath allows a person to feel the whole spectrum of emotions, and being intentionally mean can be part of that. An empath may very well be able to feel guilt and remorse, but how deep that goes or how long that lasts depends on the individual empath. You can't tell me an empath has never committed murder or become a professional thief, or hurt someone because they wanted to. So im not going to stand on the empath soap box ok! I can be cruel, but i can equally be loving. I can be manipulating but i can also be honest, i can feel love but i can also feel profound hate!! There are people i want to upset and others i want to nurture. I really believe even empaths can show what some highly paid "psychologist" termed "sociopathic traits" doesn't make someone a full blown sociopath doomed to a life of misery though does it??? So to all of you self diagnosed sociopaths how much of your disorder is the real deal and how much of it is self fufilling God damn prophecy?

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  9. Mr. Dove wrote: “One thing I have figured out is that I don't use people intentionally and that it just seems to happen on a subconscious level…”

    Interesting. In my experience life with other humans is very often a game and most people are very eager pawns. Winning requires strategy and strategy requires intentionality. When I look forward to envision what I want to achieve and then reason backward, I can clearly see how people might be of use to me as I pursue my goals. Obviously this is all a very deliberate process.

    But hey, whatever works for you. That’s all that matters, no?

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  10. Inside The DoveMay 3, 2009 at 5:33 AM

    I can see myself hurting those I would have loved in a third person perspective and out of choice I try not to.

    I know that if I didn't have a disorder than I would most likely feel horrible about what I have done, said or ect.

    I may not have the skills or mental capacity to feel what they feel, but I do have a choice; and as hollow as it is, I will avoid harming people to the extent of my control.

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  11. "Dove" what makes you unique is when you do eventually stumble across your "reflection" you will fully appreciate/be appreciated, fully understand/be understood, fully accept/be accepted by that person. What that person will symbolise to you will be your "complete freedom". Ride your loneliness like the patterned waves of the ocean, allow your melancholy to ripple its way through your body, but be hopeful, don't despair, you will find your island. Your island will be all you will need, it's quality will far outweigh quantity. Then you will learn to love yourself, thats the only way you can learn to love another. In the mean time, accept yourself "minus the label", for labels can indeed be your own worst enemy. Don't allow your label to depress you, who on earth is fit to assume God's position and tell you what you are? You are human like the rest of us. You bleed like the rest of us. To be lonely is a "feeling", probably the worst of all of them, it consumes a soul and manifester's into something more debilitating. Your should never assume you can see through me like water. Carry on underestimating and casually overlooking and you will continue to feed your lonliness.

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  12. I was just passing by--reading some of the lovely entries out of boredom/curiosity--and I noticed that a lot of people on here talk about "playing games" with "empaths". I was wondering what the connection between a lack of empathy and an interest in emotionally hurting people was? I mean, just because you lack empathy for others, doesn't mean you should/will find pleasure/entertainment in using them. Is that a separate trait of sociopathy or is it supposed to somehow stem from a lack of empathy? Because, I don't really see a connection between the two. Counldn't you be completely lacking in empathy while still treating people the way you would want to be treated? I just don't see where PURPOSELY hurting/using people would be of any interest either way (unless it's for revenge--which empaths also do). Not feeling remorse or emotional attachment is way more common than people are willing to admit, but actively trying to mess with other people just seems like a waste of energy. Just wondering.

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  13. You asked a dumb question, series of dumb questions in fact, where you yourself answered them if you read the entire comment.

    First you asked about the connection between a lack of empathy and an interest in emotionally hurting people was and then asked the same question in more detail, then did it again and answered it yourself in so many words....plus this question(s) wasn't directed to sociopaths, because at the end you clearly stated the people in general are not remorsefull....so why did you leave your comment?

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  14. Sociopaths have no place in society and need to be rooted out and extracted; if necessary, terminated.

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  15. anonymous and dove.

    this is a game.
    anonymous doesnt understand that.
    he/she is trying to reason with dove.
    but he/she can not win
    because he/she is playing doves game.

    sociopaths do not like baseball games, because everyone is playing by the same rules.

    this is amusing to me. its where i get my tits and giggles. anonymous truly wants to help, sure the white text on black is depressing, but he really feels for this lost guy.

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  16. daniel, what makes you so sure anonymous truly wants to help. people do want to understand, but that may be more to protect their own asses than anything else. maybe there is a tendency in empaths to want to make it into something they can understand. maybe they wish it had a motive, like revenge, because that's something empaths understand. but it sounds more like you do it for the kicks, to manipulate and screw people. so it's ego gratifying. makes you feel like big shits. sorry sociopaths, empaths can understand that too.

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  17. we all have a dark side. maybe empaths are intrigued by what they see as the dark side in sociopaths, a side that maybe they don't want to see in themselves.

    but you're right daniel, it is dove's game. this is all very interesting. thanks for sharing.

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