tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post7144752609609496726..comments2024-03-18T07:07:07.291-07:00Comments on Sociopath World: Diagnosis sociopath: mask of sanityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-70453379718313080382015-06-23T23:24:20.201-07:002015-06-23T23:24:20.201-07:00Ettina and Anonymous / The emotions aren't ex...Ettina and Anonymous / The emotions aren't exactly "faked" they just are superficial. The sick satisfaction at control/uncontrollable rage at loss of control is just so much stronger in a narcissistic,psychopathic, or sociopathic person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-23999078345015053832012-08-23T17:36:55.897-07:002012-08-23T17:36:55.897-07:00Ellard's quote isn't really flawed since i...Ellard's quote isn't really flawed since its implied that he's saying that psychopaths are the ones who do the terrible thing... whether or not you think someone has to be is a different story.Wicked-Lovelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535282287131083704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-24363243023228944682012-08-23T17:35:32.307-07:002012-08-23T17:35:32.307-07:00It hasn't grown up yet because it's a baby...It hasn't grown up yet because it's a baby is an error to me. Better examples to be found.<br /><br />The other thing is about SYNONYMS, not cause and effect.Wicked-Lovelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535282287131083704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-21710823909427112312012-08-23T17:34:27.365-07:002012-08-23T17:34:27.365-07:00Ahh...alright. Circular reasoning would be - the t...Ahh...alright. Circular reasoning would be - the tests came back positive (effect) because he has cancer (cause) and he has cancer (effect) because of the tests (cause).Wicked-Lovelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535282287131083704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-59125540952636543492012-08-23T17:32:33.594-07:002012-08-23T17:32:33.594-07:00You can't have the cause because of the effect...You can't have the cause because of the effect and the effect because of the cause... that doesn't make sense.. one of them caused the other... that's why one is the effect and the other is the cause... Wicked-Lovelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535282287131083704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-87338000159575090492012-08-23T17:30:24.236-07:002012-08-23T17:30:24.236-07:00"People with these traits are psychopaths bec..."People with these traits are psychopaths because psychopaths have these traits" isn't like other circular reasoning.. it's just not enough details.. it's just like saying someone matches up with the definition/traits of psychopathy. If its been used the way I think its been used, its just rather lazy, didnt give details as to why or what traits they have.Wicked-Lovelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535282287131083704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-65976007939554071012012-08-23T17:05:59.405-07:002012-08-23T17:05:59.405-07:00If a shallow emotion is a faked emotion, then anyo...If a shallow emotion is a faked emotion, then anyone on a bad day who's forced to work in the service industry is vis-a-vis a psychopath. It's very common for people who are not part of the mental health field such as Peter above to resort to ad-hominem insults when facets of abnormal psychology are backed into a corner. "People with these traits are psychopaths because psychopaths have these traits" is not cause and effect; it is, by definition, circular reasoning- supporting a premise with the premise rather than the conclusion. The diagnosis of psychopathy was born of a need of the criminal justice system, and if you'll do your research, you'll see it is no longer used in clinical settings, but only in the criminal justice system. Furthermore, when Hare's PCL-R was challenged by graduate students at Berkeley, who found it to be so subjective as to produce a diagnosis of completely normal and a diagnosis of psychopath in the same subject, staggeringly often, based entirely upon whether the clinician was hired by the prosecution or defense in a criminal case; Hare circumvented the scientific peer review process and sought help from the criminal justice system, claiming they misquoted him and defamed his character. Needless to say, after 3 years, the study was published and Hare's claim was thrown out of court, but the instance gives us a good indication of where the doctor's "science" really lies.<br />MonChausseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042487210213957722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-33468276185099402032012-03-21T18:06:15.349-07:002012-03-21T18:06:15.349-07:00I think a shallow emotion is a faked emotion.I think a shallow emotion is a faked emotion.Ettinahttp://abnormaldiversity.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-68378020530959544592012-03-08T07:27:21.972-08:002012-03-08T07:27:21.972-08:00Is there someone willing to talk about what a shal...Is there someone willing to talk about what a shallow emotion is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-66362170636138153212010-04-25T14:40:24.556-07:002010-04-25T14:40:24.556-07:00Cleckley observed that the primary psychopathic ch...<b><i>Cleckley observed that the primary psychopathic characteristics of glibness, superficial charm, emotional detachment, and lack of remorse or guilt could be used for successful criminal or noncriminal careers. Psychopaths can pursue what they want without experiencing anxiety attributable to a concern for how their actions might impact others.</i></b><br /><br /><b><i>So, if you know that someone is a psychopath then he might do terrible things, case in which you are aware of the danger.<br />On the opposite side, if someone does terrible things, he might be a psychopath, case in which you seek treatment or whatever. </i></b><br /><br />in other words anyone one with the primary psychopathic characteristics and ability to pursue what they want anxiety free is a psychopath, whether they have done terrible things or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-67503378774107800752010-04-24T01:31:20.538-07:002010-04-24T01:31:20.538-07:00You'd have to have a functional brain to be ab...You'd have to have a functional brain to be able to tell the difference.Ishtarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-65197135896746206002010-04-23T10:44:52.688-07:002010-04-23T10:44:52.688-07:00There's no confusion on my part.
The guy call...There's no confusion on my part.<br /><br />The guy called a basic cause and effect relationship circular logic.<br /><br />You have the effect becuase of the cause, and you know you have the cause because of the effect. Thus, your reasoning is flawed/circular.<br /><br />That's a really moronic thing to say, especially when you're speaking with the authority of an expert. Idiots everywhere will assume that what you're saying is true and find fault with the entire concept of psychopathy, particularly because the obvious problems of accuracy superficially appear to add credence to his statements. The only real problem is our lack of understanding of the disorder. As the poster above suggested, we need to know more about the underlying causes and mechanics so we can devise more accurate and definitive tests.<br /><br />This is not at all what Ellard the Idiot was saying.<br /><br />Again, M.E., please start quoting people with functional brains.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01541806171758034219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-82951831135117793122010-04-23T03:26:34.909-07:002010-04-23T03:26:34.909-07:00The conclusion you can take out of the quote is th...The conclusion you can take out of the quote is that a psychopath is a person who does terrible things. <br /><br />So, if you know that someone is a psychopath then he might do terrible things, case in which you are aware of the danger. <br />On the opposite side, if someone does terrible things, he might be a psychopath, case in which you seek treatment or whatever. <br />The term psychopath is standing in the middle. If you want to know what causes this condition you should look in the brain chemistry field for an explanation. <br />This guy's logic is however primitive, searching for a way to stop the behaviour and the cause of it instead of controlling it. <br />END.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-32856915187237835522010-04-22T16:01:23.313-07:002010-04-22T16:01:23.313-07:00Peter, I can see why and how you are confused.Peter, I can see why and how you are confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-44117803031948117792010-04-22T12:25:20.260-07:002010-04-22T12:25:20.260-07:00Here's another.
I know he's has cancer be...Here's another.<br /><br />I know he's has cancer because the tests on the giant ass tumor growing out of his nuts came back positive.<br /><br />The tests on the giant ass tumor growing out of his hairy ass nutsack came back positive BECAUSE HE HAS CANCER!<br /><br />OH NOEZ!!!! CANCER IS FAKE!!!<br /><br />DDERRRRRRR!!!<br /><br />For the love of all that is holy, start quoting people with functional brains.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01541806171758034219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-90422252921790837862010-04-22T12:17:28.429-07:002010-04-22T12:17:28.429-07:00A baby is a baby because it hasn't grown up ye...A baby is a baby because it hasn't grown up yet.<br /><br />It hasn't grown up yet because it's a baby.<br /><br /><b>Here's another one for you.</b><br /><br />Idiot (n)<br />1. A person who is a moron.<br /><br />Moron (n)<br />2. A person who is idiotic.Peter Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01541806171758034219noreply@blogger.com