tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post4444115484019658186..comments2024-03-28T00:33:57.308-07:00Comments on Sociopath World: Conversation with a reader: loyalty (part 2)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-6014656476594103822011-08-15T21:52:20.841-07:002011-08-15T21:52:20.841-07:00Okay, the thing that confuses me is that if this g...Okay, the thing that confuses me is that if this guy is a sociopath, he really doesn't seem that different from normal people. I mean, I understand never being reactive to emotional ploys or whatevs, but most 'empaths' eventually end up pretty dead to any problems other than their own. I also think most people are inherently selfish, so it would be a farce to say 'empaths' put others above themselves. Even when a person is using emotional ploys to play at someone, it is usually just that, a ploy, with a manipulative motive. So my question is, how is there really much difference? I am personally a very emotionally volatile person, but I am also selfish. For example I dated this guy I ADORED but I still wouldnt quit smoking for him or quit smoking pot or not go to family events when he wanted me to. Yeah, I was more flexible for him than he was for me, but wasn't that just a result of me wanting something be it security/sex/entertainment from him more than an intrinsic love or devotion? I really dont get where the big difference is between a sociopath and a normal person or an emotionally manipulative person vs. an emotionally fake manipulative person. Is the only real difference a lack of morality (which is flexible to the person's values based off of imagery of the self) or what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-47961570584307064902010-11-21T13:15:00.360-08:002010-11-21T13:15:00.360-08:00Interesting point NorthernStar.
I've always h...Interesting point NorthernStar.<br /><br />I've always had relationships with Bipolars/Depressives/BPD's <i>because</i> they are so reactive and unpredictable. This may seem crude to say, but "normal" people tend to bore me.<br /><br />Having a relationship with them for the long-term, however, is a different story, particularly if the stimulation value is outweighed by the drama and emotional demands that that precipitate from their mental illnesses/disorders.no onenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-34711332427073396962010-11-21T03:52:09.089-08:002010-11-21T03:52:09.089-08:00"Sociopaths don't like too much drama. Wh..."Sociopaths don't like too much drama. What may be drama to us is way too emotional for them to see and experience...at least when it comes to relationship stuff"<br /><br />I completely dissagree with this statement. I enjoy having friendships with people who have (diagnosed or undiagnosed) bipolar disorder. I don't have a huge array of emotions myself, so I enjoy watching and interacting with people who have far too many. Perhaps you meant we do not have long term, meaningful relationships with overly emotional people. The argument could be made that I just enjoy toying with their emotions. That accusation is partially valid, but it is mostly that do not have to contribute much of anything to a relaionship with such a person. They have enough emotional and verbal issues for five people, so all I have to do is nod and look sympathetic.NorthernStarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-75704817209692104602010-08-30T09:03:07.799-07:002010-08-30T09:03:07.799-07:00Do you cryyourself sometimes. IF you do, tsktsktsk...Do you cryyourself sometimes. IF you do, tsktsktsktskEz namnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-67518263775234670142010-08-24T03:06:30.932-07:002010-08-24T03:06:30.932-07:00I hate when people cry. It makes me irritated at t...I hate when people cry. It makes me irritated at the awkardness of it all. I yelled at a few of the people I dated for crying. Why not do it in private? Its like taking a shit in front of someone.UKan Suc Kitupnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-36490457981131574272010-08-21T20:25:23.178-07:002010-08-21T20:25:23.178-07:00Correct. That said, in my experience men are just ...Correct. That said, in my experience men are just as vulnerable to that domination. I just used "chick" for convenience.PostmodernSociopathhttp://postmodernsociopath.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-86475129437866922722010-08-21T20:13:47.473-07:002010-08-21T20:13:47.473-07:00don't know...I assume a man.
Gracedon't know...I assume a man.<br /><br />GraceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-69248047425849292392010-08-21T18:34:55.904-07:002010-08-21T18:34:55.904-07:00His E.M. a guy or a galHis E.M. a guy or a galEz namnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-45609885553814688572010-08-21T17:12:42.982-07:002010-08-21T17:12:42.982-07:00Because sex isn't nearly as complicated as peo...Because sex isn't nearly as complicated as people make it out to be. Most normals are just blinded by emotion. It's really a simple science. Find the right buttons, and press them with the right rhythm. Awareness of body language comes into it, too, I suppose.<br /><br />As for motivation to be good at it... I dunno. I suppose it's just domination. If you can rock a chick's world, she'll keep coming back for it. It's like being a drug dealer.PostmodernSociopathhttp://postmodernsociopath.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-13840152718328369752010-08-21T17:02:09.393-07:002010-08-21T17:02:09.393-07:00Why are sociopaths so good in bed? At least the on...Why are sociopaths so good in bed? At least the one I was with was good. How the hell do you guys pull that off and leave the rest to the wind. Why is there so much intense emotion there...or was that my imagination just like everything else was?<br /><br />GraceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-31357013862969427382010-08-21T11:00:46.907-07:002010-08-21T11:00:46.907-07:00@2: Heh. That might just work.@2: Heh. That might just work.PostmodernSociopathhttp://postmodernsociopath.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-542744446233205842010-08-21T09:02:45.273-07:002010-08-21T09:02:45.273-07:00PS: " I have to lie to women, really. "H...PS: " I have to lie to women, really. "Hi, you're pretty and I have no conception of empathy" is not a pickup line. Men don't seem to care as much. I was dead truthful about it from day one with a guy and we had a great time. I think the stigma is a bigger deal among women."<br /><br />Just tell them, "I'm quite good in bed, but I have no clue on how to get into your head."<br /><br />Jokes aside, lying is essentially a core part of life when you're a psychopath. Or a person with secrets, for that matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-67789734841057788362010-08-21T08:47:47.710-07:002010-08-21T08:47:47.710-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-77727305188830114942010-08-21T01:40:51.560-07:002010-08-21T01:40:51.560-07:00Hi Aerianne,
I hope you didn't take offense t...Hi Aerianne,<br /><br />I hope you didn't take offense to my comment. I was referring to the fact that you didn't know what you'd signed on to, in the beginning. I was fortunate that he laid out such weird parameters and rules that not only was i intrigued, but I was curious. I started doing the math,early on in the relationship, and after several months, he admitted that he is antisocial. Sure, i wanted to believe that means he spends dinners at home and doesn't like rowdy parties... but...<br /><br />Basically, I was given the information I was already aware of. But I had already learned to navigate the waters. It didn't change anything for me. I was somewhat relieved to know the truth.<br /><br />These things can work when the normal has a clear understanding of the emotional differences and doesn't take offense to minor slights. And if the socio is high functioning and wanting to do and be his best, he can be the best companion.<br /><br />i made my comments to you because of your 'down-graded' comments. You are dealing with new information, while the relationship takes backward steps. It seems that your best and most logical course of action is to be low-key. <br /><br />You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. I just hope that this guy is worth it... that you can see long term with him. If not, why prolong the agony of the break-up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-36503779954156497342010-08-21T01:00:05.126-07:002010-08-21T01:00:05.126-07:00Grace said it all. Listen to that on your on the r...Grace said it all. Listen to that on your on the right path.UKan Takeovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-79539081221751251032010-08-20T20:48:51.072-07:002010-08-20T20:48:51.072-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-27521544161873787822010-08-20T20:16:00.716-07:002010-08-20T20:16:00.716-07:00It was only ever a problem with women. I have to l...It was only ever a problem with women. I have to lie to women, really. "Hi, you're pretty and I have no conception of empathy" is not a pickup line. Men don't seem to care as much. I was dead truthful about it from day one with a guy and we had a great time. I think the stigma is a bigger deal among women.PostmodernSociopathhttp://postmodernsociopath.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-90919769875648798032010-08-20T20:07:44.677-07:002010-08-20T20:07:44.677-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-17651950162261878002010-08-20T20:03:32.626-07:002010-08-20T20:03:32.626-07:00I wish my ex had caught on to that, Aerianne. Woul...I wish my ex had caught on to that, Aerianne. Would've been much simpler.PostmodernSociopathhttp://postmodernsociopath.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-32456548274330532742010-08-20T19:36:51.099-07:002010-08-20T19:36:51.099-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-84618494788476524762010-08-20T19:30:08.088-07:002010-08-20T19:30:08.088-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-6601406700622605692010-08-20T18:28:21.028-07:002010-08-20T18:28:21.028-07:00Sociopaths don't like too much drama. What may...Sociopaths don't like too much drama. What may be drama to us is way too emotional for them to see and experience...at least when it comes to relationship stuff. They don't have a need to fix things with drama like you and I might. No one is wrong it's just one of the ways we are different then them. If you plan on being around a sociopath you may need to modify your behavior a bit. If you feel like their worth it.<br /><br />GraceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-69125778954364026502010-08-20T17:55:43.726-07:002010-08-20T17:55:43.726-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-73211921752469957722010-08-20T17:44:39.308-07:002010-08-20T17:44:39.308-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aeriannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695552218636965775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-75013337568750984412010-08-20T15:07:25.321-07:002010-08-20T15:07:25.321-07:00Aerianne,
What UK said is right on. You can think...Aerianne,<br /><br />What UK said is right on. You can think of it with different words, downsize, downgrade, less than whatever but don't be in denial about what's really going on. Be clear on that with yourself and accept whatever happens. You could just say cheerio to him and go about your business...hard to do but maybe necessary. I didn't do that but I wish I knew then what I know now and I would have behaved differently. <br /><br />You sound ok with it all but are you? Why seek help or input here then? Open marriage? Cool! I wish!!<br /><br />GraceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com