tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post1907836952228136781..comments2024-03-28T00:33:57.308-07:00Comments on Sociopath World: There is no there thereUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger240125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-60183867886048475652014-03-25T21:06:45.867-07:002014-03-25T21:06:45.867-07:00Better than having to deal with them later on.Better than having to deal with them later on.Chimerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12890290850214169664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-53667500904839786192014-02-03T15:39:47.947-08:002014-02-03T15:39:47.947-08:00At that point it might be a suspicion. To substan...At that point it might be a suspicion. To substantiate it, you should seek a dispassionate and professional third-party (ie. psychologist) for a proper diagnosis. Because the term "psychopath/sociopath" is heavily loaded in common usage, it is important to verify first.<br /><br />As for why a (true) sociopath would tell someone they were a sociopath, it is either to manipulate to fulfill a goal or to satisfy an authentic fascination.<br /><br />There are a variety of self-tests available online which (more or less) have some level of validity related to the PCL-SV (an abridged screening version of the main PCL-R). While not definitive by any means, it is a logical first stop to check for yourself before verifying with a professional. If you choose to write them (try several different ones, not just one), it is important to be as dispassionate and truthful as possible. Again, as a disclaimer, they are not necessarily accurate or reliable, but it is easy enough to complete without taking a significant step with a psychologist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-30746062434313028392014-02-03T15:00:46.167-08:002014-02-03T15:00:46.167-08:00I think this is related, but I was wondering if yo...I think this is related, but I was wondering if you had any insights on why a sociopath might tell someone that they are a sociopath? My boyfriend told me, and I find it really interesting, and want to know more. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-37206575129262909242014-02-03T14:48:02.052-08:002014-02-03T14:48:02.052-08:00I missed you guys and was just coming here to ask...I missed you guys and was just coming here to ask this question. Monicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-20759022195608954242014-02-03T09:37:58.146-08:002014-02-03T09:37:58.146-08:00Due to the potentially serious nature of such a di...Due to the potentially serious nature of such a diagnosis, especially the public ramifications, it is highly recommended that you obtain a professional diagnosis first before locking yourself into it. Self-diagnoses as well as online self-tests (such as the semi-reliable variants of the PCL-SV that are prevalent) is not comprehensive enough for a definitive diagnosis. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-14491933971721096582014-02-03T03:32:45.554-08:002014-02-03T03:32:45.554-08:00Holy Shit I just definitively came to the conclusi...Holy Shit I just definitively came to the conclusion that I am a sociopath. Damn that explains so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-25591349816671201822014-02-02T15:03:20.445-08:002014-02-02T15:03:20.445-08:00Anon 1:26 PM
Part of your last paragraph is true ...Anon 1:26 PM<br /><br />Part of your last paragraph is true but I didn't take your original comment so personal, more to the point; wanted to express fact. <br /><br />But thanks for the insight.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-63006982559344146572014-02-02T14:51:17.108-08:002014-02-02T14:51:17.108-08:00Sociopathic success often is said to be just money...Sociopathic success often is said to be just money/power, these folk are not supposed to think a walk in nature a sunny day has anything to do with success? Non-material hollow folks only aiming for absolute freedom (without being tied up by cars & mansions)? A Gemini/Virgo psycho perhaps..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-64941789645694910812014-02-02T14:50:34.938-08:002014-02-02T14:50:34.938-08:00The blog provides a counter-weight to the signific...The blog provides a counter-weight to the significant sociopath hate predominant in society. This one blog alone receives a lot of hateful comments where a counter-balance is due. I've seen the word "evil" used perhaps a dozen times the past week alone. Take a look at ME's Featured Comment on the right-hand side for an impression.<br /><br />Some sociopaths are violent and/or criminal. Of that there is little dispute. However what is conveniently glossed over is that there are some who are neither. I consider myself one of them. Am I offended by the hateful and/or hypocritical statements? No. I do however get irritated, because both are commonly taken as fact blindly without regard to independent, rational thinking.<br /><br />I also know that the anon @ 1:26pm had posted the comment because he felt personally attacked and decided to lash back, even though he knew I actually wasn't meaning it the way he portrayed it. It's a classic attack designed to deflate and neutralize a previous statement without arguing it. It's used in places such as political debate as a one-dimensional side-attack when there isn't a ready or convenient counter-argument available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-71878186245929364572014-02-02T14:37:17.894-08:002014-02-02T14:37:17.894-08:00There are no personalities, I don't think. Sat...There are no personalities, I don't think. Satan makes copies. Of course you can go out of your way to make it appear like someone has a personality.Jeliza Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976114169941577450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-80938472166492247292014-02-02T14:31:11.143-08:002014-02-02T14:31:11.143-08:00AnonymousFebruary 2, 2014 at 2:17 PM
But why would...AnonymousFebruary 2, 2014 at 2:17 PM<br />But why would "superior beings" willingly become outcasts?<br /><br />============<br /><br />There's nothing "willingly" about it, I can assure you.Zerothianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14994519841904744958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-87903847723723088962014-02-02T14:29:30.216-08:002014-02-02T14:29:30.216-08:00Will to success is not part of the IQ package. IQ...Will to success is not part of the IQ package. IQ tracks things such as logic and spatial awareness. Also sociopaths are 1) not superior beings, just different (ie. hyper-rational), and 2) they're not willing.<br /><br />Sociopaths are no more willing to become social outcasts than deaf people, yet they both are. Sociopaths are born/made. It's not a choice. I, for example, was diagnosed in early adolescence. As a sociopath, I can fake social ability well enough to blend in, but it isn't really authentic. It's a self-generated prosthesis.<br /><br />The whole principle of "superior being" is a loaded one. Is a superior being one who succeeds further in societal class (ie. money, influence, etc.), or is it more evolutionary where it is based on survival to allow for successful reproduction?<br /><br />Under the assumption that it is the former, then there are also additional obstacles for sociopaths, such as a lack of impulse control coupled with a lack of regret, which can foul up potential long-term successes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-14617174860400104862014-02-02T14:26:21.882-08:002014-02-02T14:26:21.882-08:00Currently, learning on this blog, how sociopaths d...Currently, learning on this blog, how sociopaths discipline their life, also. I rarely, read positive attributes of the empaths. But understand this is a blog about sociopaths. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-39550817399752259222014-02-02T14:21:04.934-08:002014-02-02T14:21:04.934-08:00"In my view, anyone who claims superior intel..."In my view, anyone who claims superior intelligence obviously lacks it, and is, in fact, a damn fool. One sign of real intelligence, as has been known and understood forever, is understanding how little one knows, certainly not claiming superiority to others.."<br /><br />Your post is very vague and basically lacks any kind of rationale. <br /><br />E.g. 1: "One sign of real intelligence...". What does this mean? Where are your references and citations with regards to intelligence? E.g. 2: "anyone who claims superior intelligence obviously lacks it...". How do you know this? By what system are you calculating this? What do you mean by "obviously"?<br /><br />Frankly, I think you're projecting your apparent idiocy onto pixellated people you've never met.Zerothianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14994519841904744958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-36385600627677672152014-02-02T14:17:17.825-08:002014-02-02T14:17:17.825-08:00But why would "superior beings" willingl...But why would "superior beings" willingly become outcasts? Isn´t the "will to success" part of the IQ-package? (Of course almost anyone with normal intelligence and huge work-capacity can go to college)..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-32496547856020018742014-02-02T14:08:48.345-08:002014-02-02T14:08:48.345-08:00Using school and grades as a measurement of intell...Using school and grades as a measurement of intelligence is a false premise, because it is not meant to be. Same with progression in society. IQ on the other-hand has some basis to a limited degree when it comes to intelligence (not including multiple intelligences), because it is designed for it.<br /><br />You can hate school, get low grades, and not have a high-paying/successful career and have a high IQ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-86803024494286327782014-02-02T14:05:26.615-08:002014-02-02T14:05:26.615-08:00That is a given. Whenever someone speaks of empat...That is a given. Whenever someone speaks of empaths or sociopaths or walruses, it is in general, not absolute. The reason why I emphasized it was because the last two are almost always improperly lumped together (one of the primary reasons why this blog exists). The offense is typically one-way in comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-84258553701473058592014-02-02T14:03:02.165-08:002014-02-02T14:03:02.165-08:00But psychos often feel or claim superior IQ (even ...But psychos often feel or claim superior IQ (even as children) and "science" nods? They are more clever than most. Many hate school & get low grades. Many don´t get anywhere in society. But still way smarter than "the ants" completing the doggie agility training (school) and getting lots of good stuff from society. Superiors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-91208859148475005472014-02-02T13:55:39.110-08:002014-02-02T13:55:39.110-08:00I could not agree more with skyscraper text. If y...I could not agree more with skyscraper text. If you can't be bothered to hit the enter key once in awhile, I can't be bothered to read your post.<br /><br />MelissaRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-80995123862519502762014-02-02T13:50:55.993-08:002014-02-02T13:50:55.993-08:00Good question. I don't think they do have clea...Good question. I don't think they do have clearly defined personalities, that's why it's impossible to truly connect on any meaningful level. Your always trying to figure them out, and never really can. It's absurd. You try so hard and it's like sand falling through your hand. There's nothing to grasp no matter how hard you try. And if you know them for any length of time, you do encounter several different personalities. Cleckley goes into quite a lengthy discussion about multiple personalities in sociopaths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-63534095627898918242014-02-02T13:26:19.495-08:002014-02-02T13:26:19.495-08:00Please, don't group all empaths in the same bo...Please, don't group all empaths in the same box as you described. Many have matured and disciplined themselves and are not so quick to judge. I for one keep my emotions out of the equation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-9343953566937687382014-02-02T09:40:52.373-08:002014-02-02T09:40:52.373-08:00That may be overgeneralizing. That is not prototy...That may be overgeneralizing. That is not prototypical sociopathic behavior. Based on what you've written, he probably is not a sociopath.<br /><br />I generally adopt a generically kind, courteous, and moderate persona when I first meet someone. It's a safe fallback until more detailed observation from interactivity can be obtained. At least if I am kind, courteous, and moderate, the chances of being faulted are minimized.<br /><br />I place limited weight on first impressions and prefer more in-depth observation over a period of time to refine an appropriate mask. I know empaths typically judge heavily on first impressions, based on some sort of gut feeling, and I honestly don't see the point. There are too many factors which influence first impressions, not the least of which is that the other person tends to doctor themselves temporarily because they are aware of its existence. While I can get a decent gauge as to potential susceptibilities and malleabilities, it isn't enough to measure the rest of them. I know empaths rely heavily on what they feel instead over what they observe (too much in my opinion, especially when what they feel is diametrically opposed to what is clearly observable). It's difficult to reconcile because emotions tend to doctor perceptions. For example, a man walks in wearing a wrinkled, untucked shirt, is overweight, and has bad breath. An empath may feel offended by the bad breath, mixing the unkempt and overweight appearance into an "offensive model". Judgment then passes to color everything afterwards. I don't see that as a reliable model. All it says to me reliably that at that moment they didn't clean up because they couldn't (ie. time) or wouldn't (ie. don't care enough). It's not enough. I understand it is naturally reflexive for most people to pass judgment - to assign labels as quickly as possible - and stick with them (even defend them to avoid shame from admitting an error). That to me is a flawed process, one which is too easily exploited. If I keep myself well-groomed and adopt the generic kind, courteous, and moderate persona, I've exploited the process and established a good foundation very quickly. I personally can't complain - it is very advantageous for me - but it is still flawed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-56473752500128771832014-02-02T02:59:07.159-08:002014-02-02T02:59:07.159-08:00Human Beings DO have MANY selves, and this is the ...Human Beings DO have MANY selves, and this is the way to defend<br />against sociopaths. One must NEVER assume that the public face<br />is unified and perminate. You only walk into a trap when you do.<br />I'm reminded of an "intelligent" and "responsible" young man I knew<br />as a causual accquaintance. "Don't spit in the street," he said.<br />In the apartment he lived there were overhanging terraces. He lived on<br />the second floor. One day I was playing with a young child. I heard a<br />strange "heh, heh, heh, sound. I looked up on the second floor <br />balcany where the vile laughter came from. What I saw was this model<br />Boy Scout locked in an amrous embrace with his mother, with wicked<br />grins on their faces, eyes as wide as silver dollars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-69264055434994543292013-12-28T15:14:10.061-08:002013-12-28T15:14:10.061-08:00From what I've read, a personality is like a p...From what I've read, a personality is like a professional framework. You can develop your personality in any way you want, discard ones that don't work and create new ones. Different situations require different personalities. In creating a new persona, its not about being phony, or insincere, its about achieving the desired results for the specific situation. You can shift into new ones using your imagination.Jeliza Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976114169941577450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-58944815973779699232013-09-05T09:40:45.868-07:002013-09-05T09:40:45.868-07:00Personally, my first propensity is an INTJ. The in...Personally, my first propensity is an INTJ. The interesting part though is that I've taken tests multiple times, and, depending on what sort of things I was doing during that time, I've also gotten ESTJ, INTP, and INFJ. That's every single function covered. <br /><br />It wasn't until I realized sociopathy was a possibility that the gap made sense--and how easy it is to mimic feelings and then forget them completely (INFJ to the other three...). <br /><br />In the end, I guess there's a propensity, the go-to-type. But ultimately, they all can be fabricated with a little practice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com