tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post1444653178471956134..comments2024-03-28T00:33:57.308-07:00Comments on Sociopath World: On responsibility and changeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-66377619967732187022015-11-11T15:45:47.171-08:002015-11-11T15:45:47.171-08:00After for about 3years, I started to think I may b...After for about 3years, I started to think I may be having some infertility issues. I began taking different medical prescription for me to get pregnant and to ensure i produce a healthy baby, but all i do did not work out for me. i thought i may never get pregnant again, so i came out for help online, on how to get solution to my problem. my husband, family, and friends, i think you will be fine they were telling me. i could not stop thinking my life will end like without having a baby, so one day i saw some people online saying things about this sorceress woman called Mama jaja, on how she can help people get pregnant. i contacted her, i told her what my problem is. she did a spell for me to get pregnant, also she told after two weeks i should go for check up, which i did, i took a pregnancy test and sure enough it was positive wow! I was so excited. all thanks to the Mama Jaja, pls keep on the good work, for i know there are people out there that still need your help just like me. if you ever need the help of the spiritual woman, you can reach on her email address (mamajajasorceress@yahoo.com)<br /><br /><br />Ritanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-79851670779468981312014-10-19T01:53:38.752-07:002014-10-19T01:53:38.752-07:00"I still want to be and do good"
such a..."I still want to be and do good"<br /><br />such an easy target.Evil Empathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-9441916871038173802014-10-18T21:25:55.936-07:002014-10-18T21:25:55.936-07:00Not all forms of manipulation are equal. Sometime...Not all forms of manipulation are equal. Sometimes we manipulate because social conditions demand it. I think the distinction should be made that to manipulate for things to turn out the way you want, versus things turning out for the best all concerned, is important. A real empath (or sucker as many here would say) would almost always put the happiness of others before their own, because their own personal/material needs are so paltry. Wealth, fame, all that jazz, mean nothing. What matters is making the whole of creation work in a way that harms the least and benefits the most, including 'other' species. A real empath is someone who purposely tries to live with a low eco-footprint, so to speak. They don't want to take, they want to give. To them, they win when everyone wins. Impractical, I know. But that's the way empathy works: it wants to make others happy. It dwells in the heart of giving. Not taking, winning or getting the best deal for oneself. Because one's self is hopelessly entangled with the suffering or happiness of others. Empathy is as much a curse as a blessing. <br /><br />JuneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-56776056811447991862014-10-18T21:10:17.511-07:002014-10-18T21:10:17.511-07:00Roman, One more thing. Remember, you'll outl...Roman, One more thing. Remember, you'll outlive your parents and their antiquated ideas of what it means to be human. You've already outgrown them. Your posting here is proof of that. <br /><br />JuneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-68537700691637385952014-10-18T21:01:41.800-07:002014-10-18T21:01:41.800-07:00Roman, Guilt sucks and is basically useless. If g...Roman, Guilt sucks and is basically useless. If guilt motivates me to do something now, I rebel. Out of principle. <br /><br />I know whereof I speak. All who know me describe me as being way too sympathetic, way too gullible, ready to lend a helping hand. I love all life and that love at times feels like stupidity: why love spiders? But I do. I have also always admired saints, and as a child wanted to be one. So did my mother; she shot herself when I was fourteen. <br /><br />Thank god I've grown up. <br /><br />Whilst I still want to be and do good, I no longer believe in sainthood -- least not as a condition being remotely possible for me. I have way too much disgust and contempt for what humanity has done and is doing, including, of course, St. Paul, a woman hater par excellence.<br /><br />However, I value my empathy more than any other quality in my possession. As an artist, a counselor, a mother, a friend, an animal lover, it's priceless. What I've done to minimize being a sucker, being overwhelmed, is got a job working with low functioning socios. Their games and joyful callousness have cured me of guilt, of saying NO, you can't have my lunch. You ate yours. This one is MINE. <br /><br />Believe me when I say that years ago I could never have even written MINE in all caps without wincing. Far as I was concerned, if you wanted what I have (except family) you can have it. Just ask.<br /><br />Crazy. <br /><br />Anyway, I'm much better being a bitch when the occasion arises than I ever dreamed possible in my youth. <br /><br />Even Jesus lost his cool at the money-changers. One of the lost gospels says he shoved a young kid off a roof when he was twelve. I believe even saints feel rage, think of murder. They just don't usually act on it.<br /><br />JuneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-88651209792378298292014-10-18T20:40:42.552-07:002014-10-18T20:40:42.552-07:00HL, I like your definition of the PDs. It makes ...HL, I like your definition of the PDs. It makes sense that these conditions spring from a deficit of core emotional needs. Thanks for putting it simply and in context of emotions. I wonder how, then, one feeds the parasitic aspect of their needs without being devoured alive. Given the wide spectrum of human hurts that could be hiding inside one person, how do we go about feeding someone's love/belonging, control/power, ego-vanity? I find that generally it takes a LOT of listening and sympathy to get anyone to open their mouths in silence, to take a bite of real soul food, so to speak. It's as if the people who suffer these disorders are starving but can't eat -- they eat kindness but find it hard to pay it forward without expecting something back. Anyway, I'll stop now because I realize I have nothing to add but questions. Dr. Ginger is definitely needed.<br /><br />JuneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-45366057070775069422014-10-17T07:37:04.089-07:002014-10-17T07:37:04.089-07:00lol, and your stuck then?lol, and your stuck then?Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724915610399474051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-87492266685618513242014-10-17T05:55:08.457-07:002014-10-17T05:55:08.457-07:00It was in the context of the legal system and what...It was in the context of the legal system and what they're held responsible for, not politics or corporate environments.<br /><br />N<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-70518181581866218952014-10-17T00:25:37.102-07:002014-10-17T00:25:37.102-07:00Consciousness is not an advantage in a dog-eat-dog...Consciousness is not an advantage in a dog-eat-dog competitive environment, and that's why machiavellians, psychopaths and narcissists are ruling this planet.Only the Paranoid Survivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-73211918607436797052014-10-15T22:34:07.891-07:002014-10-15T22:34:07.891-07:00It appears two sociopaths can conceive an empath.It appears two sociopaths can conceive an empath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-48806968746495718342014-10-15T18:07:59.240-07:002014-10-15T18:07:59.240-07:00Anon, not being a socio I can only guess. From wh...Anon, not being a socio I can only guess. From what I have read socios have to lie in many cases simply to fit in and not be judged abhorrent for how they actually look at the world. This is part and parcel of the mask.<br /><br /> Lying can go beyond that self-protective necessity and enter the antisocial realm. I do think it is kind of a slippery slope there and perhaps affects not only def 1 of integrity but also def 2.<br /><br />DoctorSciFihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13423928917489228542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-23119383975436640932014-10-15T17:55:45.254-07:002014-10-15T17:55:45.254-07:00Welcome, Roman. Only spiders start threads. Once t...Welcome, Roman. Only spiders start threads. Once the spider grabs you, you are stuck. Get out while you can.Radical Agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630112321918941568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-76219087126555216082014-10-15T17:28:02.633-07:002014-10-15T17:28:02.633-07:00Hi Doc,
I was looking at the nifty affinity diagr...Hi Doc,<br /><br />I was looking at the nifty affinity diagram (at least that what it looks like to me) on your web site and I keep coming back to this notion that most of the "dramatic" PD's are feeding/protecting one or more core emotional needs: love/belonging, control/power, ego/vanity, and attention (and I might argue safety in the case of avoidant types and possibly bloodlust/sadism as it's own bunch of folks).<br /><br />So from this perspective, a pure narcissist would be feeding their ego/vanity at the expense of others. A pure ASPD, on the other hand, would be concerned with acquiring control/power. Pure BPD's (Emotionally Intense sounds better to me) would be seeking love/belonging. And you can have more than one in play, making things a bit more confusing. But in all cases, there is an unapologetic parasitic aspect to their needs - that's what connects them.<br /><br />There is likely a better way to parse it, but that is how I'm making sense of it these days. I'm sure Dr. Ginger would have a (does?) very different, and more informed, perspective.<br /><br />I too am curious to hear other ideas - HLHallernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-91971059390703357652014-10-15T15:42:08.009-07:002014-10-15T15:42:08.009-07:00Nr 2 defintion is what docile socios build their q...Nr 2 defintion is what docile socios build their quiet truimphs on, nr 1 is for empaths. Lying without "being cornered" will sour even the bright psychopaths life in the end. Its lacks that rational quality..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-61769154039376260212014-10-15T15:37:52.673-07:002014-10-15T15:37:52.673-07:00live and let livelive and let liveRomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724915610399474051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-79936502716746270192014-10-15T15:36:25.738-07:002014-10-15T15:36:25.738-07:00still not to familiar with this website, is there ...still not to familiar with this website, is there a way to start a thread?<br />whatever...<br />Anyways i'm reading the book now and i'm actually feeling sort of jealous of Thomas. I mean i very likely fall under the category of empath and I find all the emotions that i have to deal with on a regular basis downright exhausting. Especially guilt.<br />If someone gave me the option to remove all of my guilt yet demanded that i give up my ability to empathize in return i don't know what i would do...<br />I also wonder if the author considers her father to be a sociopath. He certainly was an asshole. I suppose it depends on the definition of sociopathy. He seemed to use his capacity for feeling as a manipulative tool, and i wonder if he experienced any real empathy or love in his lifetime. <br /> One of the reasons why i feel interested in this arena is my own upbringing. my own parents did not really believe in emotions like shame, anger or lust. When i exhibited emotions such as these growing up my parents would tell me that i was disgusting and sick. I guess in some sort of rebellion of this sentiment i have developed a sensitivity to my emotions and in talking about them. Especially the dark and dirty ones my own parents did not condone. <br /> I guess that this post is me saying that i can relate in some sort of way.Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724915610399474051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-80524596802515156472014-10-15T15:35:55.317-07:002014-10-15T15:35:55.317-07:00Anon, your comment is interesting. There are two ...Anon, your comment is interesting. There are two definitions of integrity. It's interesting that they both pertain to the same word in english:<br /><br />1. the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.<br /><br />2. the state of being whole and undivided.<br /><br />I guess in order to have integrity according to definition number 1, you have to have it according to the second definition as well. Clearly low end psychos don't have moral integrity based on honesty but they still can have integrity based on wholeness. Or perhaps not?DoctorSciFihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13423928917489228542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-74643015152536898062014-10-15T15:27:20.938-07:002014-10-15T15:27:20.938-07:00My efforts to destroy this web site by loving it a...My efforts to destroy this web site by loving it are not succeeding. So I will tell the story of the scorpion and the frog, which everyone knows. (As a child, I saw scorpions but did not attempt to make pets out of them. As a high school teacher, a student in a hall way asked me , "Do you want to hold my tarantula?" Nobody likes spiders, but somehow big tarantulaly spiders are easier to love. I held out my hand.. The student placed his beloved tarantula on my hand. I looked at the tarantula. It felt like any tarantula sitting on your palm looks like. It looked at me, thinking deep, profound spider thoughts. After I felt I had embraced the tarantula long enough to prove my high school teacher of youthful sociopaths cojones, I said, "Thank you." I handed him back his tarantula. I never met his tarantula again, and I have no idea if it went on to live a long, content big spider life. One day while I was teaching a class, I noticed the head of a rat looking at me from between the buttons of the young man's shirt. Again, high school sociopaths like to test their teachers, so I responded, "Oh, I see you brought your pet rat to class with you. Is it house trained? What is it's name." I don't recall the name, but I am pretty sure the student's name was not Willard and the rat's name was not Socrates or Ben. <br /><br />Anyway, the story of the frog and the scorpion. Well, everyone knows that story. Everyone knows that it is one of the most famous Aesop's Fables. So look it up. And please stop posting comments. Everyone knows that there are no sociopaths, psychopaths, or anti-social people. Not only that, by so many people posting, you are ruining my plans for trolling this web site out of existence.Radical Agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630112321918941568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-86168438780644650172014-10-15T14:59:33.847-07:002014-10-15T14:59:33.847-07:00Can you say a bit about where this need or desire ...Can you say a bit about where this need or desire for control comes from?DoctorSciFihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13423928917489228542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-8338031222842182682014-10-15T14:35:00.885-07:002014-10-15T14:35:00.885-07:00Another way to say it is I am trying to give up be...Another way to say it is I am trying to give up being controlling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-15820622585447915162014-10-15T14:31:35.791-07:002014-10-15T14:31:35.791-07:00Some low-end psychos lie all the time as "kic...Some low-end psychos lie all the time as "kick". Quiet docile socios don´t. This threatens their "integrity". Low end-psychos has no integrity. That´s why they fall in the end, even if the fall is spectacular.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-771073118028980572014-10-15T14:29:24.807-07:002014-10-15T14:29:24.807-07:00Doctor SciFi, what I mean is I have to notice when...Doctor SciFi, what I mean is I have to notice when I see that what I'm doing is a manipulation (when I'm trying to persuade people, when I'm trying to get people to side with me or believe my opinion, when im being too dominant and the other feels oppressed, when I realize I'm being abusive etc.)... and then what I do is I just try to correct myself by like letting go. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-77599947060127324372014-10-15T12:04:35.058-07:002014-10-15T12:04:35.058-07:00If only.If only.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-43379026266902384742014-10-15T11:47:20.525-07:002014-10-15T11:47:20.525-07:00Only five-faced? You've been talking to some r...Only five-faced? You've been talking to some remarkably straightforward people... But I understand what you're saying. 'Normals', 'empaths', whatever your chosen term is, they always like to present themselves as the good guys - sociopaths don't. Ironically, sociopaths display an impressive degree of self-honesty; mostly, they accept that they're not the good guys, whereas 'ordinary' people have trouble doing so. Not quite as much trouble as narcissists, but still trouble. Personally? I don't mind being labelled manipulative and lying because I recognise that I am manipulative and lying. When people realise this, it only annoys me that it took them so long to notice.Angra Mainyunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-628748600098131100.post-33345522816539394652014-10-15T11:02:17.167-07:002014-10-15T11:02:17.167-07:00Anon at 10:22, can you describe the conscious effo...Anon at 10:22, can you describe the conscious effort you make to not manipulate? I didn't understand at all what ME posted about not manipulating any more, because i don't have insight into the state of mind.DoctorSciFihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13423928917489228542noreply@blogger.com