Sunday, December 7, 2014

Sociopathy in the Bedroom

From a reader:

So I have a new girlfriend. I met her on fetlife.com, a social network for pervs.

She wants someone that will physically dominate, punish and terrify her in the bedroom. It turns out that sociopathy comes in really handy for this.

I heartily recommend that sociopaths get out and date this way. What's fun? I've trained her to be obedient. When I say "open" she spreads her legs. When I say "close" she closes them. When I tell her to squeeze she squeezes (with her kegels) and so on.

Having got the basic obedience training done, it is time to mix it up with hits. So I tell her to open. She opens her legs and I hit her between her legs. Or maybe I tell her "open", she thinks I'm going to hit her, but I tell her "close". And then I tell her "open" and I hit her. Or perhaps I put the vibrator between her legs.

Recently in the middle of a session I was hitting her so much that her fight or flight reflex kicked in and she tried to get away. She got one of her limbs untied and was flailing away. She actually hit me. I knew I had to take control, so I sat on her chest and started choking her - a blood choke, to make her dizzy. Then I turned her over and hit her butt, telling her to tell me when she wanted to get hit between the legs. When she said she wanted to get hit between the legs, I said, "just tell me when you're read to get hit between the legs" and kept hitting her butt, really hard. And finally I turned her over and hit her a bunch between her legs. I took my time doing it so that she had maximum dread.

After the fact, she said that when I was choking her, I looked absolutely evil, like a villain from a movie. I had a smirk on my face and seemed coldly determined. I can recall being thrilled at being able to regain control and punish her for getting out of line. She absolutely loved this whole thing (Oh, and by that phrase I mean "She had a huge orgasm and flood of bonding emotions.")

After the fact I talked to her. She explained that a lot of the guys that will be rough and controlling in the bedroom are such disturbed individuals you'd never want to let them take control. So if you've got a well-ordered sociopath - the sort that can hold it together when he has to - taking on the role of a sadist in the bedroom might allow you to have a lot more thrills and make someone very happy. It will mean causing your partner a lot of pain, dread and distress, on purpose. Whether or not that "hardens my heart" I don't know, but obviously sociopaths will find this job easier to do than non-sociopaths.

Oh, I should mention. I'm not particularly into all the hitting. The obedience stuff is fun; it is great to have a person act like a dog. However, I'm doing the hitting because that's what this partner needs to be happy. I am glad to be in a relationship where we can both get our needs met.

It got me thinking that maybe sociopaths make good interrogators.

124 comments:

  1. Disturbing to a great extent.

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  2. I think you are right on 2 counts, sociopaths are/would probably be good at that type of controlled behavior and at being interrogators. I have always thought that CIA agents, etc. were chosen based on having sociopathic traits.

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    1. Anon,

      I agree that a highly astute sociopath would make an efficient interrogator. And, true, it does have to do with controlled behavior, but that's a different area altogether.

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    2. im just grateful for the heads up, never heard of that site before. read the post then immediately signed up. awesome

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  3. The partner lets you dominate them from the beginning. You don't have to seduce them, or manipulate them, or so anything to "overcome" them. Getting them to do things they never thought they would and go past boundaries they have for themselves. I think that's a big part of it. Would a sociopath be interested in that type of arrangement?

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    1. Damaged, as you've mentioned, you're a member who frequents sociopath-community.com...

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  4. It's still only play acting. And if the relationship goes south, she has you
    compromised, and rife for extortion. In today's climate, who is the law going to
    believe, her or you?
    If your looking for fun make it real. "Tis the season." Do you have any idea how
    vulnerarable Christmas shoppers are? And they are ordinary people. They don't
    "playact" terror. They don't know what hit them.

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    1. "In today's climate, who is the law going to believe, her or you? If your looking for fun make it real."

      Involving the law? Don't you think that would mean taking things too far? In other words, taking things where they should not go? That should be undesirable in any situation. That is not the point of this "conversation."

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  5. The sub is the one in control. Think about it. No submission no Dominance.

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    1. Dominance can create submission if you're willing to take things far enough.

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    2. Sure - but the posting involves consent and the contract that exists between two people who choose to enter into that sort of relationship. As soon as consent is given (and trust not broken) the one giving the consent is really in control. Nothing happens without the subs OK -

      Once consent (and trust) is broken - the contract broken - then it's a whole different ballgame (pun sort of intended... *smirk*).

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    3. What if you're taking things farther than they consented to to see if they'll expand their boundaries, but will stop if they're not into it?

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    4. I meant to reply in this thread.

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      I believe that it can be the opposite situation to a certain degree if the D/s relationship is highly cerebral/intelligent, which can very well place the dominant partner in control. When one thinks about it, that is where things should start in such a relationship, and everything else would build on from there. I also believe that most people who engage in such relationships don't understand the importance of this point. A dominant should be a highly intelligent individual, willing and able to take control in diverse ways, including being imaginative in uncommon ways.

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    5. @Damaged: That happens - that's what "safe words" are for.

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    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Jt_g10Jug

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    7. "As soon as consent is given (and trust not broken) the one giving the consent is really in control. Nothing happens without the subs OK -"

      HLHaller,

      You need to keep in mind that the dominant partner is in charge of the contract, which can be altered/controlled at any given time - "clauses," "addendums" and so forth. A person who familiarizes himself or herself with the legal aspects of a contract can become rather creative at this (i.e., with a deviant twist, that is). Think about it...

      Also, a true submissive would do as the dominant asks in some situations. However, fully defining such area can be rather complex.

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    8. SS: Agreed - people "pass the reigns" back and forth all the time and the "issues" that are involved with people's sexuality are very complex.

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    9. HLHaller,

      I can understand passing the reigns in some relationships, but in a TRUE D/s relationship, I don't think that it would work so well, thinking that it might feel as though something is being taken away from it after establishing, experiencing and progressing in some areas that initially felt natural to the partners. I think the roles should be defined, a dominant should always be a dominant and a submissive should always remain submissive - a most natural, flowing, magnetic progression and/or evolution of the two personalities, events, scenes and interactions. I believe that it would make things more intense on some essential levels. What I meant by the complexity of the not fully defined area did not involve the defined roles of the partners. I was referring to the sort of intelligence and distinctive imagination that can take things to undefined heights - creating complexity in this particular mode.

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  6. From my understanding, Anon 5:00AM is about right.

    Years ago I recall a girlfriend reading a book called "Topping From Below," I think. It discussed in great detail - more than I needed - how the sub is really the one running the show. It's counterintuitive, but it does make sense.

    She was an interesting character - she wasn't really happy unless it was more or less simulated rape. Fun for a while, but I'm a novelty kinda guy...it got old.

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    1. HL:

      The simulated rape is my favorite by far. For me (my style), it's the feeling of being craved so much that he loses control and breaks the law and morality just to have me. He has the physical power and control, while I have the mental control.

      Did she liked being beaten? I don't. Maybe a few love slaps, but I don't favor a beat down.

      N

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    2. "He has the physical power and control, while I have the mental control."

      N,

      I believe that both partners, in ANY relationship, meaning not just a D/s relationship, should operate on matching levels of intelligence. I thought of this when you mentioned the physical power over the mental component, as though one partner has the intelligence/mental power and the other has the physical control/power.

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    3. How do you know that we don't have matching intelligence? These are bedroom antics, not our day-to-day routine.

      I know you think you can correct opinions and preferences, and you can certainly argue about them and maybe that works with some people, but I like what I like and it doesn't need to make sense or be "correct" to anyone else except the person I'm with.

      N

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    4. N,

      I did not write that you and your partner don’t have matching intelligence. I did not even know that you were referring to your own partner, so none of what I wrote was meant to be taken personally. Like me, I thought that you were discussing things in a general way.

      "I know you think you can correct opinions and preferences, and you can certainly argue about them and maybe that works with some people, but I like what I like and it doesn't need to make sense or be "correct" to anyone else except the person I'm with."

      I certainly didn't mean to be argumentative, and I don't mean to be so with others either. This is a complete misunderstanding on your part. Of course, what you like doesn't need to be "correct" in my opinion me or in the opinion of other people, for that matter.

      Again, don't take this personally.

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    5. - omit me (extra word) toward the end -

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    6. How did you NOT know? The first four words of my second sentence weren't enough?

      Just spare me. There's no misunderstandings about you. You do what you do on purpose and then pretend like anyone who disagrees just misunderstood.

      Do us both a favor and consider me "undeserving of your help" because every time you challenge me or tell me I'm wrong directly, indirectly or passive-aggressively, I'm going to let that be my confirmation that I'm even MORE right than I was to begin with.

      N

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    7. N, read my response to you on this page.

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    8. Hi N,

      I've heard that from more than a couple of women and I'm not averse to it at all. But with her it was about the only way we ever "got busy." Roll playing can be fun, no doubt, but DANG! there's gotta be some variety!

      Yeah - she liked getting spanked mostly, but hair pulling, pinching, etc weren't off limits either. With her it was more about humiliation - her favorite movie was The Story of O, if that tells you anything.

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    9. I've never been a masochist. I did have a serial killer fantasy. I figured that was ok to put on SW :P:P

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    10. Now there's a variation I haven't tried...hmm...

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    11. HL:

      I know what you mean. It would get old after a while if every session had to be the same production.

      I don't like the humiliation at all, myself. For me, it would completely counter the feeling of being craved, but others are obviously free to pick what what they like.

      Did she ever get into why she liked the humiliation? I'm always curious about the why with most things.

      N

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    12. It's really wasn't all that for me either - I'm more inclined to finding new ways that make for fond memories (places/times/etc. that involve risk - that sort of thing). A partner in crime is more my speed - I get bored with pets and I'm not very good at being controlled.

      All she would say is, "yeah, I'm really fucked up." She was adopted, to hear her tell it anyway, to be a playmate (and maybe a wife later) for her also adopted brother. I'm no psychologist, but I'm sure that upbringing didn't help.

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    13. HLHaller's personality replica.

      "yeah, I'm really fucked up."

      http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsT/40590-24459.gif

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    14. HLHaller December 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM

      "Now there's a variation I haven't tried...hmm..."

      http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/95689/the-matrix-agent-sunglasses-by-blinde-design-and-the-matrix-gallery.jpg

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    15. Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      N

      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u59faaxKKkU/UH5-lEf0WTI/AAAAAAAAAr0/dcFd4f3kDuw/s1600/Funny+Gorilla+2012+04.jpg

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    16. HLHaller December 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM

      "but DANG! there's gotta be some variety!"

      http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/races/Borg_Male.jpg


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    17. no one clicks your links anon. ss age 3

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    18. C 20 H 11 N 2 O 10 Na 3December 8, 2014 at 10:41 AM

      Anonymous @ 11:40 PM

      https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgb4YUK1pWPg2nxb-pehhpu2VTxvVR0wBQK0syXwY9oOcmQK8s&reload=on

      http://badassdigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/motherfuckingPIE.gif

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  7. 'Fifty shades of gray' day at SW.

    I wonder if the submissive role would be the more interesting one for a sociopath, as it comes counterintuitive, or against the expectations I should say. That pleasing charm, driving crazy with gentle strokes?

    The dominant role suits NPDs better, no?

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    1. I dunno - the narratives that surface during sex, especially when it's feeding a fantasy that has had considerable energy put into it, can go damn near anywhere.

      And, here's where the shape shifting comes up again, since every partner is different at least in the details of their sexual fantasies, you can end up just about anywhere.

      And I can see easily where a NP socio, would get their "ego fix" by being the "best lay the person has ever had."

      If they find a way to feed the ego, most people high on the NP scale, from what I've seen, will avail themselves - it's worse than a junky and dope. They really can't stop themselves.

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    2. :)

      Body worship... Not being able to stop themselves...

      All sounds good on a lazy Sunday...

      Wish I didn't have so much work, lol...

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    3. LOL! The Unholy Spawn are coming too, so I can't spend too much time on this today either.

      It's a shame...

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    4. "...a lazy Sunday..."

      Sceli,

      It sorts of echoes your other comment about the embedded feature. Nothing can be achieved without ENERGY.

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  8. I believe that it can be the opposite situation to a certain degree if the D/s relationship is highly cerebral/intelligent, which can very well place the dominant partner in control. When one thinks about it, that is where things should start in such a relationship, and everything else would build on from there. I also believe that most people who engage in such relationships don't understand the importance of this point. A dominant should be a highly intelligent individual, willing and able to take control in diverse ways, including being imaginative in uncommon ways.

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  9. Not my exact flavor, but close enough to get my dirty mind going.

    N

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  10. Man, and to think....yesterday my comment got deleted :P

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  11. I was thinking of getting in to this thing so I could legally get away with beating people up. It wouldn't really be a sexual turn on though, I jus wanna beat people up :P

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    1. :) Got me really laughig... And, I never thought about beatinh abybody before, but seriously maybe I should.

      I actually have been approached with requests to not only beat these guys but do it as they do a poor of cleaning-up my home kneeled down and that I'd kick'em with high heels. Too much work to deal with nonprofessional cleaners, I'd say, lol....And, yes, I'd bet both these guys were sociopathic, this was their way to try to control me (that sub controlling the dome story is true, especially when the sub is a male). Not interesting for a moment, either way.

      A perfect match is always between equals, I'd say.

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  12. Yesterday I was thinking about my Mormon upbringing. This post makes me chuckle knowing it was posted on a sunday, and she is going to church hahahahah lololol

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    1. "Dr. Ginger,"

      Why are you mocking M.E.? Among other things, which I would rather not mention, it is quite inappropriate.

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    2. Hey Stay Smart, tell me more about this therapy you supposedly developed for psychopaths.

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    3. Dr. Ginger,

      I didn't write that I was developing my personified layering method specifically for psychopaths. I should have mentioned that it can be applied to various individuals from all walks of life, the personification component changing from one person to the next. I think of it as a creative, universal method for anyone who finds it appealing - a way to innovate within one's mind, to build onto a new outlook within the consciousness of a person.

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    4. Dr. Ginger,

      Also, I don't mean my personified layering method to be viewed as therapy per se, since some people might attach a certain negative connotation to the word or practice. I want it to be seen as something new, altogether innovative, highly exciting and encouraging. Its practical side is just as essential to me.

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    5. "Its practical side is just as essential to me." Right, I gotcha ;)

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  13. HL, don't respond to this guy. He's just trying to work you up. It's part of his power play.

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    1. I am sincerely touched by your concern... 8)~

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    2. Welp my morality is back online...ima go find something else to do

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    3. LOL!!! Have a great week Doc -

      When do you start at the prison? I think that's awesome!!! I do hope you share any insights -

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    4. HL,

      You asked about the prison. This was sent to me today by a forensic psychologist. I won't provide any identifying information about the person, but I did think it was interesting....still mulling over it:

      And I have read your philosophies, experiences, postings, etc... I think you have the iron gut it takes to work in a place like that. Learn to master the 1,000 yard stare so that even when you are being screamed at by hundreds of inmates or more, commenting on what you don't want to know about the good or bad parts of your physique, you have that steel reserve to look 1000 yards through them and not hear a thing. It's only bad in numbers. One on one, the inmates are generally easy to deal with, as long as you don't use your attractiveness as an appeal. You are very pretty. C'est la vie. If you think of yourself as a heinous ogre, you won't put out accidental signals. : D

      Yes, you are tough. I think you would be great, and what a challenge. I'm jealous.
      BTW, Concrete Mama is a book about THE Concrete Mama, and well worth checking into as well. Good luck with your decision. We need more powerful, strong but non-femiNazis clinicians out there. My best to you.

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    5. Hi Dr. G.,

      I'm interested to hear your first hand perspectives on the impact of Supermax confinement and any other insights you may gain from working there.

      Obviously, no details -

      8)~

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  14. Hi Dr. G.,

    Today might be my day for being "managed" - see my comment to Sceli. My last post to you didn't seem to make it to the net...let's see about this one...

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  15. In the past there wasn't this embedded structure for separate conversations, it was all linear and in some ways it worked much better in terms of catching everything that was said. We didn't need to scroll back. Good old days, lol....

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    1. The embedded structure makes sense to me. It keeps all conversations more clear, especially when a new conversation begins, forming a new thread. Also, if a commentator happens not to mention the name of the person he or she is speaking to in a given comment, it would create some confusion, considering the change in conversation topics. What's more, I am also visual, so it helps with that part of it, too.

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    2. We were hoping you'd like.

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  16. The first thought I had about the "Dominant" featured in the post is that a good "role reversal" improvisation would be for the Dominant to engage in a little autoerotic asphyxiation with the Submissive having the role of making sure the noose is released in time. Doesn't everyone think that would be REALLY exciting for all involved?

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    1. "...having the role of making sure the noose is released in time." ??

      Radical,

      Frankly, I am not going to think about your comment above.

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    2. Jesus bloody Christ, RA. I laughed entirely too hard at that. Especially the last line.

      N

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    3. She'd probably burst into tears halfway through, and would have to be constantly reassured to the point where he might as well do it himself.

      Cry some more.

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    4. Anon @ 3:53 P.M.

      Same as other post, imbecile without a personality. You're always the same, just like you see in the image.

      http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Agent-Smith-Evil-Laugh.gif

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    5. @5:03

      Were you trying to post a may-may?

      You're probably schizo.

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    6. C 20 H 11 N 2 O 10 Na 3December 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM

      Anonymous @5:03

      "Were you trying to post a may-may?

      You're probably schizo."

      http://25.media.tumblr.com/bc4cc1e21f67ad51dcf9679292c45db5/tumblr_mz3v1xG71t1rdfgw4o1_250.gif

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  17. Hi, this is my first time visiting this site. I found today’s post particularly relevant to my dog’s situation. The thing is, my cat left us a few days ago and since then my dog is constantly masturbating and howling. At first he was mainly howling, but now he only non-stop masturbates. He used to stalk my cat in a very pathetic manner, and cat finally got tired of him and moved to our neighbor’s house. I tried to encourage him to use the holes on the wall to stalk her but he just masturbates and howls. I feel sorry for him since he is an old dog, and has helped me and my cat a lot. So, I appreciate any suggestion you may have.

    Btw, he is too old and if I take him to the pound, he’ll be certainly euthanized there. But if anyone is interested I can post some of his pictures here. Amazingly, he is still sexually very active and may assault your other dogs- or even some of your family members. Oooh poor Freddie…he is howling, I hear him.

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    1. Anonymous December 7, 2014 at 11:55 AM

      "Hi, this is my first time visiting this site."

      http://www.mediabistro.com/prnewser/files/2014/08/CLONES.gif

      "...he only non-stop masturbates....I tried to encourage him to use the holes on the wall...he is still sexually very active and may assault..."

      https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3742/8788427656_d9d5114a88_z.jpg

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  18. N,

    I honestly did not know that you were talking about your own partner. How would I know that? Why doesn't that make sense to you?

    You wrote, "For me (my style), it's the feeling of being craved so much that he loses control and breaks the law and morality just to have me." Yes, it could have been possible for you to be referring to the topic in a general sense, as in discussing a fantasy and/or daydreaming by putting yourself in the given situation and by thinking about an individual out there who would do such things with you. That is also a possibility. Think about it from my perspective.

    If I were to ask a question, let's say, "How would you envision a great night with a man or a woman?"

    You might start by saying, "I would meet him or her in such and such a place, and he or she would meet me there at that time. Later during that night, I would say such and such, and he or she would respond in this manner..."

    Do you understand things now?

    I wonder if others agree with me on this, because it makes a lot of sense.

    You sound irritated. Know that I certainly don't do such things on purpose, and I don't pretend in the way that you have described. Taking things so personally does not solve anything in this case.

    By no means did I try to offer my help to you in this situation. It was just a mere exchange between us. You seem to be taking things a bit too far in connection with this particular conversation. I wrote a comment (i.e., it was just a comment, that is), and you viewed it as a challenge, which, once again, makes no sense to me. Why would I challenge YOU, and come to think of it, you call this a challenge?

    Further, I am not a passive-aggressive person, and honestly, by saying so, you are completely blowing things out of proportion. I find that a bit strange, too, given the way this whole thing has progressed.

    No, N, you were not right at all, and I am sure that others agree with me in this situation, pertaining to how I read your comment. If you'd take the time to think this through, you'd understand things better. A calmer approach would allow you to see things as they are.

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    1. SS, how often do you find yourself calling people to calm down? Any idea why this repeats?

      You're touched differently by the creator. I'm really curious how old you are, It's as if you're from 1920s, trying to communicate with a different generation. Something warm in that thought, towards you that is. Not religious here, but have to say, God bless you. I want to cherish your difference.

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    2. TL;DR

      Three words in and all I can think about is Charlie Brown's teacher.

      *wah wah wahwahwah wah*

      N

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    3. LOL! Sums it up nicely.

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    4. "SS, how often do you find yourself calling people to calm down? Any idea why this repeats?"

      It's effortless, really.

      "It's as if you're from 1920s,..."

      No, Sceli, I'm not old at all, and my overall mentality is not reflective of the 1920's. However, if I'm communicating with a teenager when it comes to N, then that's a different story altogether. I'm not in the current teenager generation.

      "You're touched differently by the creator....Not religious here, but have to say, God bless you."

      This sounds somewhat 1920ish to me (i.e., the wording, I mean).

      However, thanks for the "warm" thoughts, and for "cherishing" my "difference." And by the way, my outlook is avant-garde and quite unconventional.

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    5. N,

      Exactly, this is what you sound like to me in your comments: "*wah wah wahwahwah wah*"

      Evolve.

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    6. I think I'll stay just the way I am. I like me.

      N

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    7. "LOL! Sums it up nicely."

      HLHaller,

      Puzzle for you:

      Who says "LOL" and "ROTFLMAO?"

      Really.

      Or is that "shape-shifting"? And by the way, I know how old you are, much older than I am, so I can sum things up for you quite quickly and "nicely," too, but I won't do in another comment, since I have already done it in here as is.

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    8. Anon @ 12:51 PM

      Same. No personality whatsoever.

      http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Agent-Smith-Evil-Laugh.gif

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    9. SS, you have said some interesting stuff, but I also find you irritating. I don't care how old you are. I am the oldest here... Well except for radical agnostic. And maybe hhl... The goatie makes him look young though.
      I would suggest you re read your own comments, and figure out why people find you annoying...
      Would that be because you have been told and you assume you have a higher IQ than most others? It really is up to you to find out. Now, you will probably find my comment annoying. Just mirroring a bit..

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    10. best guess as to SS age anyone? 20

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    11. Hi O&W,

      I am in the neighborhood of a half century. But, as I have been told, it's the mile, not the years."

      25-ish

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    12. He's early to mid 20s I would guess. A know nothing know it all.

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    13. Mid-30s. The language and ideas expressed suggest someone older, more sophisticated. In fact, the writing reminds me of a published writer I've read and enjoyed.

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    14. We all know that is you at 8:46 ss.

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    15. C 20 H 11 N 2 O 10 Na 3December 8, 2014 at 9:51 AM

      HLHallerDecember 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM

      "Hi O&W,

      I am in the neighborhood of a half century. But, as I have been told, it's the mile, not the years."

      25-ish"

      http://31.media.tumblr.com/4f829f0d1f921a87561cb118c1732004/tumblr_mz3v1xG71t1rdfgw4o2_250.gif

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    16. C 20 H 11 N 2 O 10 Na 3December 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM

      Anonymous December 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

      "We all know that is you at 8:46 ss."

      http://fast.swide.com/wp-content/uploads/710james.jpg

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    17. C 20 H 11 N 2 O 10 Na 3December 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM

      Anonymous @ 8:11 PM

      "best guess as to SS age anyone? 20"

      http://25.media.tumblr.com/1b40743de07f8f67b4aca7055230ac20/tumblr_mva9pmXi8w1rdfgw4o1_400.gif

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    18. "SS, you have said some interesting stuff...."

      OldAndWise,

      Thanks for the compliment.

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  19. As an asexual, I'm afraid I nothing to add to this conversation.

    Reading this thread, however, has sparked a title for a short, short, movie it would be fun to make: "Love and War Among Psychopaths." It'd be short because socios are short on love, and lethal in war.

    Now I'll be off to call the socio I love to help me 'teach and/or reason with" the BPD person in my life, to convince them to tone down the drama around here. Think it'll help? Or am I dreaming again?

    Grendel

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  20. Waiting for my socio sweetie . . . went to Wiki's entry of Confessions of a Sociopath.

    "Her publisher was upset over the parts of M.E.'s life she left out of the book."

    The rest of the entry describes employing knives in fast food parking lots and profitable encounters with My Little Pony. Wryly shocking. Anyone else read it?

    Grendel

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    1. "Including how she ran a My Little Pony themed bestiality sex ring for the depraved sociopath" I dunno why, but something about this reminds me of the artist Tinkebell.

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    2. "how she would stab people in Burger King parking lots for thrill and cheeseburgers. She never mentions her addiction for thrill and cheesy sandwiches that fuels such depravity." Like damn, you gotta wanna cheeseburger...

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    3. This is HYSTERICAL!!! I almost want to add to it just to see how fuck up it can get before people call bullshit (that's one of my less destructive, but often comical games I enjoy playing - "how far down the rabbit hole can I take them?").

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    4. Please! I am only 70 years old. I haven't learned the facts of life yet. My wife got pregnant on our honeymoon and I am still wondering how that came about. We were living in a trailer (yes, indeed, I am pretty sure we were trailer trash) though we splurged on a honeymoon in Carmel (Carnal Carmel by the Sea?) and somehow a sperm met an egg and now our queer daughter is almost 50) but I am still trying to figure out the slot a and tab b business. A couple of years ago, I told my daughter and her wife that I suspect I am very close to being a sociopath. They are both extremely empathic women and are raising an ultra empathic little girl, but they are gradually coming to accept that the world is full of sociopaths and psychopaths and insane people. One of these days I am going to tell my granddaughter (who who is very big for her age (now ten), it's OK to kill people if they need killing. Just make sure you have it all on video and lots of good character witnesses that will stay bought.

      Calling you from the bottom of a rabbit hole. Apparently on Japan on a couple of islands, there is a very rare and inferior bunny called the Amami Rabbit with short legs, barely able to hop. If you are a clumsy sociopath this is the bunny for you.

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    5. RA, You ROCK!!! 8D~

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    6. I've seen it...

      http://sociopath-community.com/topic/2014-11-25/wikipedia-entry

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    7. I am heterosexual but "bi" something -- biempathic/sociopath-psychopath

      Because of this divided nature, I love it when people say nice things, laugh, and applaud. Such as HLHaller's recent comment. Also, when you say positive things, I am frightened and horrified. As the old song goes, "I scare myself." Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks.

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  21. Anon@ 9 32

    SS did not write that. I did but forgot to sign. No matter how preachy SS may sound, I still find her/his writing style compelling and intelligent. Whoever it is writes very, very well.

    Grendel

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    1. No, you didn't write that about SS, Grendel.

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    2. Grendel,

      Thanks for the compliments on my writing, but, in the grand scheme of things, my age does not matter. Really.

      In spite of the way things might sound, I'm not preachy. However, I do like to observe and absorb.

      And I can be perpetually curious, but only about some things.

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    3. Anon @ 11:31 AM

      Also, it is in my personality to change/innovate on some levels (i.e., this is connected to my idea of growth/expansion, of experiencing and discovering other possibilities on a daily basis), so there is no set pattern for anyone to be able to imitate me.


      "SS is Grendel"

      No, I am not Grendel, since some things differ quite considerably. Among other things, I would never call myself "preachy," because it's a word and trait that I dislike. Also, it would become increasingly clear if you would thoroughly read Grendel's comments (i.e., more than three or four, that is).

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    4. Anon, Read the comments and you will see that I'm not SS.

      SS, To clarify, I said 'may' sound preachy. Because you do display a certain superiority, but, then again, your words and the way you string them together is very clever (there's no doubt in my mind that you are highly intelligent), therefore slippery. I like your thought processes and the way you express yourself and that's good enough for me. Like you, I enjoy stimulating conversation. Am perpetually curious. And to remain curious I've found it useful not to cling to first impressions or so-called sure-fire assessments or convictions. Being receptive and open to changing my opinion, admitting when I've rashly misjudged or misspoke, keeps the doors to evolution open. I want to evolve. Nothing matters more than that than perhaps my family.

      As for your age, I really could care less. I was simply putting in my two cents, because it seemed to me that others missed the sophistication showcased in your writing.

      Grendel

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    5. Grendel,

      Stimulating conversations are great to have, especially when I find so much to observe/absorb through them. Curiosity/inquisitiveness is a major trait of mine, and I am glad to see that you are also curious, considering the many possibilities out there that are just waiting to be discovered and fully known.

      Not clinging to "sure-fire assessments" is a great outlook, and I strongly believe that as well. Also, there is so much more to a person than a first impression, or whatever meets the eye at first glance in a given situation. What's more, I try to keep that in mind even after a prolonged period of time, meaning well into the course of truly getting to know a person. People change, and so do opinions and beliefs. Life is a long voyage of uncovering and evolving in ways that might pleasantly surprise us from one minute to the next. I view evolving as something that is an intrinsic, inseparable part of me, and if I were to cease doing so, I would really feel as though I have lost a most familiar, innate part of me. Being open-minded to innovation, to knowing and understanding people from all walks of life, and to life-factors that promote significant change is something that I truly welcome.

      Again, thank you for the compliments in the beginning of your message, as well as for liking my writing. :)

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    6. SS, "I view evolving as something that is an intrinsic, inseparable part of me, and if I were to cease doing so, I would really feel as though I have lost a most familiar, innate part of me."

      Me, too. It's an essential part of my being. The drive is a feeling akin to being in love.

      I totally agree with you that one must always keep an open mind to time's convolutions, the mortal streams of human change. The voyage of life, indeed. A voyage filled with pearls and perils beneath the glittering sea.

      It's the entangled subtext of stories like Judas/Jesus and Moby Dick and of science that I'd like to penetrate. ;-)

      You're writing is easy to compliment. I take joy in great writing.

      Grendel

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    7. "Me, too. It's an essential part of my being. The drive is a feeling akin to being in love."

      Grendel,

      Can you expand on this? How do you see it evolving?

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    8. I can't write long -- family's here. But perhaps the best way I can explain it is that evolution for me is about making connections of all kinds. Similar to solving a puzzle and/or connecting the dots only deeper in sensation. Emotional, physical, spiritual, mental connections alter my course, force me to grow in unexpected ways, to think outside my own boxed mind and finite experience. Like you I dislike doing the same thing over and over, as in repeating the same mantra of thoughts, the same feelings, even though of course, as a human, I often wind up doing just that. But the thrill of making new connections, in art, science, psychology, literature, whatever, when it happens, always takes me outside my coffin-flesh. It's not always easy to break the egg of one's own take on life but the rewards are mightily profound. And as the world I perceive grows larger and brighter, more colorful and nuanced, so do I.

      Grendel

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    9. "But perhaps the best way I can explain it is that evolution for me is about making connections of all kinds....But the thrill of making new connections, in art, science, psychology, literature, whatever, when it happens, always takes me outside my coffin-flesh."

      Grendel,

      But you wrote, "Me, too. It's an essential part of my being.The drive is a feeling akin to being in love." You discussed something else in the selection I included above. As it were, you generalized your thoughts, while I was referring to something that is one-of-a-kind - that type of connection.

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    10. "It's not always easy to break the egg of one's own take on life..."

      Grendel, does this have to do with detachment, meaning lacking connection in the sense that I described (i.e., in person/personally, high intensity, novelty and so forth)?

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    11. I am being yelled at by hysterical family members but I have to add one thing: Every connection that I have made in my life with any subject, object, animal or human IS one of a kind. That's what it feels like, in any case. They are each one unique. Naturally, a "meeting of minds" with someone whom I find completely engaging for years on end would be wonderful. The ultimate. I do have many friends, and a few with whom I feel very close. But it is not the same thing I think you're referring to. I did know a scientist once who I found philosophically/intellectually utterly compelling for many years. But we never connected spiritually or physically.

      Got to go. The family horde is pulling out their knives.

      Grendel

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    12. Grendel,

      I understand your thoughts, but I described something different while, simultaneously, thinking of a relationship, in connection to who I am on some level, in a more general sense. You wrote a couple of thoughts related to something that has been on my mind, and I chose to discuss them with you. I do believe that you understand my position, since I fully understand yours.

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    13. SS, "I do believe that you understand my position, since I fully understand yours."

      With all affectionate respect (I like the way you think), I am not at all sure that I understand exactly what you're talking about. I'm afraid that the BPD person in my life is going bonkers -- I am in emergency mode and have little time to scroll though the threads, not to mention dealing with my own responses to BPD's outrageous behavior. I probably won't be around much in the next couple days; there are wee ones involved, and I must be there for them. However, I wish you to know that I do very much enjoy our conversations and do wish to have a further 'meeting of the minds.' See you downstream, I hope.

      Grendel

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    14. SS, "I was referring to something that is one-of-a-kind - that type of connection."

      As wrote somewhere else, every single connection I make is one-of-a-kind, because the people and/or objects/subjects are absolutely unique. And I love, love, love, each and every single one (because I learn something), but most especially the ones in which the heart, mind and soul do meet.

      Grendel

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  22. "SS is Grendel"

    No, I am not Grendel, since some things differ quite considerably. Among other things, I would never call myself "preachy," because it's a word and trait that I dislike. Also, it would become increasingly clear if you would thoroughly read Grendel's comments (i.e., more than three or four, that is).

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  23. lamest discussion of s&m ever.

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  24. I do have power fantasies sometimes, but I find the notion of staged BDSM pretty cringeworthy. If you check out the Fetlife website, it is mostly a bunch of elaborate consent-making for nerds. Where is the fun in that? There are some interesting forums on sociopathy though.

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