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Friday, September 10, 2010

Meeting expectations, playing on biases

I have been corresponding with the transwoman sociopath. I asked her:

I wanted to ask how has your gender or perceived gender influenced the way you act or interact with the world as sociopath. Do you find yourself hiding behind your transgender identity like a shield? In other words, if authority or government types give you a hard time, you'll just scream discrimination? Sexual harassment? Gender discrimination? Do you find it easier to hide as a sociopath being out as transgendered? For instance, I don't like being around people that others think should be just like me (same race, gender, background, religion, etc.) because I feel like they are expecting certain things, are on the lookout for any sort of deviance for those expectations. If I am around people different from me, they just see me as an "other," a stereotype, like the old joke, white people can't tell black people apart, black people can't tell asians apart, asians can't tell latinos apart, etc. When people see you, is all they see "woman" or "transgendered"? Do you use that expectation to your advantage?

She responded:
I would suggest my gender comes mainly into play for its quirkiness. I'm a fairly odd person and when I meet/interact with someone I'll be almost entirely dominant in conversation and will twist their points and pressure them throughout to watch them squirm about a bit. It becomes especially noticeable when I make it seem as if they have been transphobic or in some way offensive to me because they try to work back through their statements apologizing for the wrongs present in each one.

I'm very direct, blunt, sarcastic and piercingly logical. My dominance stems mainly from the way I turn peoples concepts upon themselves and make people feel rather stupid in the mean time. I am definitely more cautious around transgendered people for the reasons you stated. I do enjoy spending time with trans people though, even if only to study them more so that I can feign a good trans experience that isn't necessarily tied into anything sociopathic in nature.

Being sociopathic is easily hidden when I mention the "horrible" childhood I grew up with though. How much pain and suffering I went through is a sure fire way of getting people to not question my aggressive verbal domination and obvious manipulative discussions. But thats mainly because I nestle myself nicely into small groups of empaths, mainly the local queer community who are more than happy to let me into their friend circle and forgive my wrongs because they stem from such unspeakable trauma. I keep making reference to my scapegoat story of my childhood, I find this works well in most situations because people assume it is the cause of my darker nature and dominance as well as my transgenderism.

What I wrote above is not always the case though. Occasionally when I meet a particularly empathetic empath I will meet with them in private and have long emotional discussions with them in essence "pouring my heart out" while they diligently listen and feel dreadfully sorry for me. I listen to their life's story and usually delve deeper and deeper into their empathic root if the have one. For example a lot of them were sexually abused or raped by family members when they were younger, each time I met them I'd ask more about it and I pretty much always get an answer eventually. From "who was it?", "do you still see them?" all the way to "describe it how you remember" and listening to them intricately recount the memories that hurt them so. It gives me ammunition as well as an enjoyable time watching them cry and talk about things they don't want to remember, It makes me look like the caring friend that will always be there for them and who they can trust with anything that hurts them. So when I break that trust it makes it all the more cutting.

I'd say that my methods and aims are fairly female in type. I work almost entirely in mental methods to achieve almost entirely mental aims. I find these relationships with people I would consider strong empaths to be my favorite. They usually last a longer period of time, they fulfill my thirst for knowledge, they play perfectly into my hand to toy with and they give the strongest reactions whilst showing the most hurt . . . and they almost always come back and let me do it again.

80 comments:

  1. What strikes me most about this person is that after the time, commitment, and expense of changing their gender, they still seem to have not found a place in life that interests them more than hurting another human being does.

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  2. I fully agree, but isn't that just a Sociopath? No matter who the person or their gender and change in gender? Maybe not all want to hurt when manipulating, but it's been my experience that some simply enjoy hurting people.

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  3. yeah it's called bullying. i think this transwoman sociopath must be an unhappy sociopath.

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  4. Aren't all of them unhappy realistically?

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  5. Good to see you back, Jesse. :D

    But no. I wouldn't say I'm unhappy, at all.

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  6. I would classify myself as a happy sociopath.

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  7. No most are happy. That's why you don't see them in therapy.

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  8. I'm not unhappy, I'm quite content with myself and life around me. My gender has little relation to my sociopathy and as such I'm hapy as female but It was not a sudden wave of releif that made me terribly empathic. I was still who I was outside gender, I was just happier with that aspect.

    I'm mid transition now, so who know things may change. But currently my gender has not affected my sociopathy, only altered ways I can manipulate it.

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  9. Oh...hey Postmodern. Destroying anyone's life lately.

    I figured most were unhappy, but I guess everyone needs to vent, even sociopaths.Venting is something everyone does, even when overall they are pretty happy. Atleast you guys are normal when it comes to that. My apologies for the misconception. There is hope for you sociopaths afterall...

    And I figured the non therapy had to do with their egos. Getting therapy would admit to needing help, admit to them being psycho, again, for lack of better terms. Sociopaths seem too full of themselves to admit to anyone that they need help. Help shows weakness to some.

    So Kate:

    Are you happier now in mid trans, or would you feel better once you are completely a woman. And if this is too personal, ignore, but do you plan on changing everything? I've heard of some trans-people keeping what made them the proper sex, but changing everything else, chests, voice, facial structure, etc. Are you going all the way?

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  10. I just realized something...

    Most of you have to be unhappy because you are alone. No ones really wants you around, and there has to be times where you wish you could have nice comforting company without having to play games. Playing all the time has to get tiresome, even boring. What happens when you guys are alone in your rooms with your thoughts, and demons? I know you guys felt unhappy because alot of you stated that you felt alone in the world.

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  11. I am happier now with my gender than before mainly due to the way I'm treated. I'm addressed in female pronouns, I have female clothing and live in essence full time as a female. I am happier mainly due to how people interact with me, it feels more natural in the way I'm addressed and referred as well as treated. This still has no barring on my nature sociopathically and although the sense of loneliness is apparent at times it is not something that causes me unhappiness. I'm content with being alone, so long as there are other minds to interact with, whether they are friend or foe to be quite frank matters little.

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  12. I'm with you Jesse.

    I think the feelings we experience like loneliness, for example, they don't have the capacity to feel. If anything it's just an abstract idea or notion. It's not a part of their makeup to begin with. Perhaps it’s more isolation that they prefer and we percieve it as loneliness. Feeling alone in the world is common for everyone and it comes and goes.

    They probably cannot feel the level or intensity of happiness either so in the end it all balances out for them. I'm sure there are those sick in their condition and maybe have some other conditions in addition to sociopathy, those are the ones that may feel more sad feelings. I don't think that with the sociopaths on here though. That may change once they are older though. My ex is miserable..that's my perception of what I would feel but I'm sure he's happier than I'm willing to understand or admit.

    Grace

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  13. Most of you have to be unhappy because you are alone. No ones really wants you around, and there has to be times where you wish you could have nice comforting company without having to play games. Playing all the time has to get tiresome, even boring. What happens when you guys are alone in your rooms with your thoughts, and demons? I know you guys felt unhappy because alot of you stated that you felt alone in the world.


    That's what pets are for, isn't it?

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  14. As was said in a film I greatly enjoyed: Everyone dies alone.

    Certainly, life is more interesting with people, but that's a temporary matter. I can subsist on what I have, and enjoy myself most of the time. I don't need another person for that, it's just convenient.

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  15. Oh, damn, forgot all about pets. I guess they can be used for that. They don't speak, and you can easily control them. Wow.

    So you really have no need for people...do you?

    Kate:

    I understand what you are saying completely. The sociopathy has nothing to do with your changes, but you, inside, and personally, feel better as a woman, right?
    That makes complete sense XD. I think you are the only sociopath I like on this site. The others are too, well, messed up. I'm sure this is part of your charm, but it is nicer speaking with you than the others here, besides ME. If he ever responded to me, I'm sure he'd be tolerable. Thanks for making this clear, and thank you for sharing your story.

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  16. Holy shit. You guys are still going at it?

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  17. I have an idea. Instead of sitting around asking yourselves about the meaning of life, the universe, and sociopaths, why don't you just go out and fucking do something?

    Want to know how to handle a situation with a sociopath? Try something. If it doesn't work, try something else.

    Want to know how to be a sociopath? Slit your wrists and drink your own blood. It's an ancient ritual that's sure to transform you into a slick, smooth, nightmarish supernatural being.

    Anything other than mulling over all this stupid shit will bring you closer to whatever it is you want out life. So rev up your engines and GO, GO, GO! And by GO I mean find something you want to do, and do it. Ponder in transit.

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  18. PP: "Holy shit. You guys are still going at it?"

    You've lost interest in posting comments on this site, too..?

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  19. Mostly, yeah. I've stopped by a few times to see if anyone's missed me, but I couldn't even bring myself to read through all the comments. It's OK though--I know I'm loved.

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  20. Kate,

    It's rare to find a doctor who doesn't follow the Benjamin Protocol for gender reassignment, which requires a therapist's certification based on a minimum of 6-12 months of therapy. The point is to prevent those with any identity disorder from transitioning so that the doctor can't later be sued if your identity shifts and you change your mind about reassignment. All personality disorders, dissociative identity disorder, and disorders with psychotic features are all automatic disqualifications for transition.

    Not only does the hormone-prescribing physician usually require such certification, but the plastic surgeon who would complete the reassignment generally requires both the therapist letter and the physician's statement that you have no mental disorder that would affect identity or ego state.

    Also, most states require sworn statements from all the above professionals prior to sanctioning a legal change of your name and gender.

    My question is, did you (a) find some way to get around the therapist requirement, (b) find a therapist sufficiently incompetent to ascertain in all that time that you had a so-called personality disorder, or (c) convince the therapist to risk losing his/her license by lying in the certification?

    No matter which, it was undoubtedly well played for you to have gotten this far in the process. I'm just curious on which tactic you used to circumvent the numerous obstacles put in place to prevent just such an occurrence.

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  21. Peter Pan (what kinda name???):

    Are you an attention whore, or an attention whore version of a sociopath. It's one or the other. You are someone who wants attention for their stupidity, or you are a sociopath who wants attention for their stupidity. Which one is it, just wondering.

    And if or when you answer my question, do us all a favor, and disappear. If you have nothing on topic to talk about, or anything relevant, then don't say anything. You will be doing all of us interested all a huge favor.

    Talking to you too 2SAID.

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  22. Jesse, do you appreciate irony?

    Also, you may want to make yourself scarce, because Peter will wreck you. Daniel and I were just playing with you, by comparison.

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  23. Jesse said...

    Oh, damn, forgot all about pets. I guess they can be used for that. They don't speak, and you can easily control them. Wow.

    So you really have no need for people...do you?


    Are you asking me specifically or are you asking the alleged "sociopaths"?

    Your response was exactly as I'd imagined it, by the way. Did you conveniently forget that "normal" people have pets for the very reasons you described? Unless you're vegan, pets are nothing but companion items.

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  24. In response to Gabriel. I live in Australia so things are slightly different.

    I still had to go too therapy but its focused on assuring that a change in gender is what I want and that its genuine. other personality disorders are tested but Its quite easy to just not show symptoms. I don't find hiding my sociopathy difficult at all, I just focused on my gender and I got through it without any issues whatsoever. In fact the Psych let me begin early because she was convinced that I was so well adjusted.

    She wasn't incompetent, I just put on a really great show. Put in a few common mental issues, remove the less desirable ones and that there is perfect to look just right for where I should be mentally.

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  25. oh and thanks Jesse I suppose. I'm really pretty messed up in some senses but I'd think of myself kinda like a pie or some other wrapped thing. messy inside but nicely held together.

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  26. Yeah, I forgot to be clear, I was talking to you specifically.

    Alleged sociopaths? Every sociopath on here is technically alleged, aren't they. I mean, from the stories, most, if not all, weren't properly diagnosed.

    Normal people have pets, but usually treat them well. And with normal people, pets are respected companions. Couples get pets, and they already have companions, their spouses. Or at some point they will get a spouse, but have pets to fill that void for the time being. I didn't look at it that way at the time though, I suppose regular people can have animals for companions, but most people with pets get them because they are missing that kind of connection with another person. It makes sense for you guys to get some because you wouldn't have to perform for them the way you do for the whole world.

    Forgive me for the possibly wrong stero-type, but sociopaths don't seem to want to treat anything that can respond to pain with any respect. That's what I meant by control them and they don't speak. It would be easier to treat them badly, and get away with it, cuz you own them. Contrary to what some of you may believe, but you don't own people.

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  27. Postmodern

    What you and Daniel were doing was playing?! How? You guys were complete assholes. Is the peter guy supposedly worse? How is that even possible?

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  28. Ok I take it back. It was Jesse.

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  29. hurray for post wars . . .

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  30. Yeah, I forgot to be clear, I was talking to you specifically.

    I'm neither a sociopath nor psychopath, nor do I have any other personality disorder. I'm really quite dull :)



    Normal people have pets, but usually treat them well. And with normal people, pets are respected companions. Couples get pets, and they already have companions, their spouses. Or at some point they will get a spouse, but have pets to fill that void for the time being. I didn't look at it that way at the time though, I suppose regular people can have animals for companions, but most people with pets get them because they are missing that kind of connection with another person.


    Doesn't change the fact that the animal is being used for the benefit of the human owner, even if to satisfy an emotional desire for companionship/affection/love. Do you not agree that these emotions are often quite selfish [and anthropocentric]?

    It makes sense for you guys to get some because you wouldn't have to perform for them the way you do for the whole world.

    Why is it that you automatically assume that I'm a sociopath/psychopath, by the way?

    Forgive me for the possibly wrong stero-type, but sociopaths don't seem to want to treat anything that can respond to pain with any respect. That's what I meant by control them and they don't speak. It would be easier to treat them badly, and get away with it, cuz you own them. Contrary to what some of you may believe, but you don't own people.

    The majority of the population has next to no empathy for animals in general. Tell me, do you eat meat? If so, do you feel guilt for eating it, or even compelled by your guilt to stop eating it? What makes a cat/dog/hamster any different from livestock?

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  31. I assume everyone on here is one until they state otherwise. My apologies for the title.

    I don't see it as selfish as long as both are recieving something positive. The animal gets well taken care of, and the owner get the comfort in caring for something that depends on it. They both give and take. Sociopaths take. I don't see them being any different with animals. I could be wrong though. Perhaps some do take very good care of their animals, if they have any, and treat people like crap.

    I do eat meat, fish, and every once in a blue moon, chicken. If we were in a country where those types of animals were eaten, then I could see my trying it, but I'm not a hardcore meat eater to begin with.

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  32. Jesse: "Peter Pan (what kinda name???):

    Are you an attention whore, or an attention whore version of a sociopath. It's one or the other. You are someone who wants attention for their stupidity, or you are a sociopath who wants attention for their stupidity. Which one is it, just wondering.

    And if or when you answer my question, do us all a favor, and disappear. If you have nothing on topic to talk about, or anything relevant, then don't say anything. You will be doing all of us interested all a huge favor.

    Talking to you too 2SAID."



    AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

    Oh man...

    AHahahahaha.

    Ok. I'm done.

    Oh god, I think I'm still giggling. Damn it. OK. Let's get my intellectual composure facade back and stop with the shits and giggles. OK.


    Anyway. . .

    I was mainly agreeing with Peter's point. You guys are wasting your time with this shit. I, of course, enjoy a good discussion here and there but damn, there's a time where you stop and just LIVE. You guys are going over the same topics over and over and over and over and over... ad infinitum. I've felt this entire way every single time I dropped in and read the comments. The only slightly interesting thing is the mind-games, but I've become bored of those, as well.

    So, what's my point that you can benefit from? You're going nowhere and this is only temporary. Better to find another outlet to put interest in.

    Of course, this wasn't actually Jesse... But, hey, I completely disregard the mind games at this point.

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  33. I can see where Kate or another psychopath would be able to pass a psychological exam. It's reported that psycho therapy isn't very successful with a psychopath as a subject because they are skilled at telling others what they want to hear, even psycho-therapists.

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  34. I wholeheartedly agree that any smart sociopath who wants to fool a therapist can. The stupid psychopaths are often pretty obvious to just about everybody. Some lack the ability to stay out of prison. Others lack the intelligence for skilled manipulation, so have to rely solely on simple-minded bullying. I would feel sorry for them and their lack of higher-order skills, if only I had any empathy.

    In the area where I live, there is one therapist who specializes in gender issues, and she's so focused on that perspective that anyone can get certified, given time. But that seemed too easy and therefore boring, so I used a general therapist for my pre-transition (from female to male) counseling.

    To make it even more interesting, I not only didn't hide what I was, I was open about my personality disorders at the very beginning. Like many therapists, the only thing she "knew" about sociopaths came from the DSM, so she became convinced I wasn't one, primarily because I've never been in any legal trouble, and because I showed a somewhat broader palette of emotions than she would have expected. What reasonably intelligent sociopath can't mimic unfelt emotions well enough to fool the willing?

    It was so much more fun to arrange for her to defend my eligiblity than it would have been to argue it myself.

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  35. I had no need to play with the gatekeeper. I got the verdict I wanted and thats all I required. I have others to play with. my therapist was merely a person I could have verify my pristine mental state if anyone in the future is to ask.

    I would find it more appeasing if I ever were to be diagnosed with sociopathy that the past 3 psychs all had no clue.

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  36. I could be wrong though. Perhaps some do take very good care of their animals, if they have any, and treat people like crap.

    Emphasis in bold.


    I do eat meat, fish, and every once in a blue moon, chicken. If we were in a country where those types of animals were eaten, then I could see my trying it, but I'm not a hardcore meat eater to begin with.

    You didn't answer my question, but judging by your indiscriminate preference for sources of meat, I'll say that you don't feel guilt for consuming animals (or the fact that they're very often tortured before they're slaughtered). If that's the case, then what does it matter to you whether sociopaths treat animals well or badly?

    Or, are you only really concerned about how sociopaths treat humans, and are using assumptions of their treatment of animals in order to further your premise that sociopaths are essentially "bad" people who always do "bad" things to anyone/anything that moves or breathes?

    I am genuinely interested in hearing your answers.

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  37. I'm a vegetarian due to the cost of meat.

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  38. I did answer your question.

    Depending on the creature I don't feel bad. Like fish. I think fish are pointless. They don't have much emotion, and their memory is close to non-existant. So to eat a fish does nothing to me. I don't personalize with fish. Same with chickens. I don't see how they are killed or treated in the chicken farms so it doesn't bother me. I have seen how pigs and cows are treated, and that did bother me, plus I think those types of animals are smarter than the average animal. They do show emotion, you can tell when they are in pain. Fish and birds, I just think they are pointless almost stupid creatures. Not all birds and fish are, but the one we happen to care for as pets, or eat, happen to be. As far as fish I eat tuna, and salmon, that's it. Chicken, well, chicken, and that's rarely.

    You pretty much nailed it with the second half of your remark. I am concerned with how they treat animals because they treat people, humans, so badly. I don't see why they would treat them so badly but cherish an animal, course it could be like how I see certain animals as pointless, not saying they deserve to be mistreated or eaten, and others are more valuable. I don't see sociopaths thinking ANY person is more valuable than the other, and I don't see why they would treat anything they can control with respect. And as far as the animals, if I treat them like family, and they are domesticated, then yes, I would feel bad consuming them. It depends on the level in which the animal is treated.

    So it can be either one of two things, siocios if you read this help me out here.

    1)they treat animals well because they are not people.

    2)they treat animals badly because they can show emotion and can be controled.

    Just making assumptions here because I honestly don't know, going off of experience f the ones I know, and the ones on here.

    Do you know any no one? Why are you defending them so much if you aren't one. What's your fascination with them?

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  39. Kate:

    The cost of meat stopped you from eating it, must be dedicated or frugal. I can't say I'd be better off without, but I know for sure I don't always need it XD!

    Daniel and Postmodern. Paper is going well, thanks for the insight into your demented worlds. I don't think I would have the courage to let you two read anything about it though. I can only handle enough criticism. That is, if you were serious. Can't ever tell...

    BTW, I think my female roommate is one. Don't know how to approach her to ask her to participate.

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  40. I eat meat occasionally, but its not something I activly put in my life.

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  41. has anyone read this alisa valdes rodriguez' description of her sociopathic ex husband and do you agree with her or think shes wildly misinformed? I'm posting te link but you can just go to her webpage and click diary and its the september 10th entry.

    http://web.me.com/aviar5200/Alisa_Lynn_Valdes_Official_Site/Diary/Entries/2010/9/10_Survivor_Story_Chapter_Three.html

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  42. Her ex sounds like an unsuccessful, whiny, lazy, noncharismatic, leeching douche, not a sociopath. Not saying all sociopaths are seductive, hauntingly mysterious, tempting wonders, but this pathetic reject can't possibly be one. Sounds more like borderline manipulation anyway. It was hard to read that dribble. That woman was a blithering idiot. She deserved to be used and abused...

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  43. "Sounds more like borderline manipulation anyway."

    Please tell me you're not actually basing that on Borderlines..? Correct me if I'm wrong. I could understand otherwise.

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  44. You're right, Jesse. I don't have anything to add to the topic. Every post is like deja vu, and I'm sick of thinking through the same crap repeatedly. I think a lot of the posters here would be better off if they came to the same realization, and I wanted to share that. If you're seriously going to bitch about me bitching, then take some of your own implied advise and STFU and ignore anything you don't like.

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  45. So, Peter, sounds like someone's got a gun to your head forcing you to think "through the same crap repeatedly"?

    That's some serious mind control.

    It's also neat that a person such as yourself, as you present yourself here, are so interested in the well-being of a bunch of internet strangers that you feel compelled to come back to this place, of which you apparently bored, just to help us out magnanimously with some carpe diem!

    A true altruist.

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  46. No,lol, I didn't mean the personality disorder borderline.

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  47. do any of the sociopaths here believe that there is something wrong with them?

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  48. depends what you mean be wrong.

    intrinsically wrong? no.

    I'm not broken, I just have a different interaction with the world around me and those people in it.

    socially wrong? sure.

    as far as society is concerned there is something wrong with me. Its only due too their lack of understanding. they can't possibly understand how I comprehend the world in the same way I cannot understand their position perfectly. I can emulate it but understanding is beyond that.

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  49. have all of the alleged sociopaths here actualy been diognosed? because you can't simply decide for yourself wether or not you are suffering(or whatever you want to call it) from this personality disorder.

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  50. I though the same thing about the writers ex and I also wonder if all the sociopaths here have actually been diagnosed.

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  51. I'd assume not, some don't feel a need to have a doctor tell them what's wrong with them. Also, some of the more ignorant ones you can just tell aren't actually sociopaths.

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  52. Just making assumptions here because I honestly don't know

    Emphasis in bold.

    You've certainly made many assumptions for someone who knows little of what they're speaking of.

    As for the topic of animals, perhaps it's best you rethink your argument and acknowledge the number of assumptions and contradictions you've made and discuss this at a later time. It might help to do the same for your arguments concerning sociopathy/psychopathy. Does your school offer a logic program?

    Enjoy your day.

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  53. how exactly are you so certain the he knows so little of what he is speaking of?

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  54. and i suspect that most of the "sociopaths" on this blog are not genuine, or is the just some kind of rare spot where dozens of you gather for i nice friendly chat?

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  55. PP: "You're right, Jesse. I don't have anything to add to the topic. Every post is like deja vu, and I'm sick of thinking through the same crap repeatedly. I think a lot of the posters here would be better off if they came to the same realization, and I wanted to share that. If you're seriously going to bitch about me bitching, then take some of your own implied advise and STFU and ignore anything you don't like."

    The era of redundancy has come and M.E.'s blog will begin to be full of solely new posters. Medusa, Grace, and Birdick are possibly the only old posters that will stay. Medusa because she enjoys the narcissistic musings she can have here, Grace because she enjoys the dialogue rather than the articles, and Birdick because he enjoys domineering over the posters intellectually.

    So, yeah. We all knew that M.E. would eventually become far too redundant for our tastes. He's grasping at straws at this point. (Transvestite straws, strangely enough. . .)

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  56. 2 and PP, are you guys old posters? Are you in the category of sociopaths? And do you still read but not repond because it's old to you?

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  57. And do you still read but not repond because it's old to you?

    I'd say that's probably the case. The conversations do get cyclical over a period of time.

    Medusa, Grace, and Birdick are possibly the only old posters that will stay. Medusa because she enjoys the narcissistic musings she can have here, Grace because she enjoys the dialogue rather than the articles, and Birdick because he enjoys domineering over the posters intellectually.

    Heh. Nice analysis.

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  58. 2, transvestites are a different kettle of fish.

    I have only been following this site for about 8 months. I barely ever post due to the redundancy I saw in it. No-one ever seemed to post on the subject that they were supposedly commenting in, and when they did it was generally in a way that ceased discussion or was posted in fair ignorance.

    as for diagnosis, I could not be diagnosed because if I were I would be removed from any form of hormone therapy. I'm not able to be treated if I have any form of mental illness or other possible reason that my gender could be doubted.

    I'm rather certain I have at least a mild form of sociopathy. Regardless of whether its diagnosed or not it wouldn't change the way I interact with others, however I find that it closely resembles the way I act, interact and think. and thus I enjoy reading about others that seem to be similar.

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  59. Maybe you guys have done this already but why don't you send some requests to M.E. about topics you want to talk about. Daniel, Postmodern, Peter Pan, UK, No One, Zoe and all you sociopaths...not sure about No One. I mean, for me anyway, I enjoy coming here and reading your comments. I don't get into some of the drama ones because honestly I have nothing to add to them but Medusa has good input and there are some new peeps I thought were interesting...Amdusias and Jesse. I think it's good to stick with the same peeps for a long while. People get to know you that way and that benefits people. Don't give up because of some drama stuff..it will pass…survival of the fittest. But you sociopaths have been a bit scarce lately so you’re allowing others to take over. Nothing wrong with new peeps, if you like their points of view. Don't leave us!!

    Your right 2 I don't get into the articles posted by M.E. I need someone to start it off..I don't feel it's my terf to start a dialogue here. For example:

    I don't know much about Shakespeare. I don't remember that stuff from HS. Currently, I'm reading a Modern Proposal by Jonathan Swift. You probably know it but if not do check it out..very interesting.

    Grace

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  60. Maybe you guys have done this already but why don't you send some requests to M.E. about topics you want to talk about. Daniel, Postmodern, Peter Pan, UK, No One, Zoe and all you sociopaths...not sure about No One. I mean, for me anyway, I enjoy coming here and reading your comments. I don't get into some of the drama ones because honestly I have nothing to add to them but Medusa has good input and there are some new peeps I thought were interesting...Amdusias and Jesse. I think it's good to stick with the same peeps for a long while. People get to know you that way and that benefits people. Don't give up because of some drama stuff..it will pass…survival of the fittest. But you sociopaths have been a bit scarce lately so you’re allowing others to take over. Nothing wrong with new peeps, if you like their points of view. Don't leave us!!

    Your right 2 I don't get into the articles posted by M.E. I need someone to start it off..I don't feel it's my terf to start a dialogue here. For example:

    I don't know much about Shakespeare. I don't remember that stuff from HS. Currently, I'm reading a Modern Proposal by Jonathan Swift. You probably know it but if not do check it out..very interesting.

    Grace

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  61. sorry it posted twice.

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  62. Anonymous (one or more of you),

    I'm a real, live, tested and diagnosed sociopath (among other things). Do I get a prize? It would surely be the first time I would ever have been rewarded for it.

    I knew what I was long before I ever went to a shrink, so I have no reason to think that those who feel they are sociopathic, yet are undiagnosed, are necessarily wrong. I see no benefit to claiming to be sociopathic if one isn't, but if others do, who am I to burst their bubbles?

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  63. Sorry no prizes.

    Are you ok with your life as a sociopath? I mean do have many conflicts with people or with yourself. Or do you have a good understanding of how to function well in your life. Just curious.

    Grace

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  64. what do all the sociopaths here get out of coming to this forum?*

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  65. Happy Birthday Postmodern.

    Grace

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  66. Belated regards PMS, did it whistle?

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  67. how exactly are you so certain the he knows so little of what he is speaking of?

    Because he said so herself/himself...

    "Just making assumptions here because I honestly don't know"

    ...unless you're having trouble understanding what an "assumption" is, then I forgive you.

    By the way Grace, I am not a sociopath. Want to be friends?

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  68. Jesse: "2 and PP, are you guys old posters? Are you in the category of sociopaths? And do you still read but not repond because it's old to you?"

    Did you seriously just ask me three questions that were all deductible via common sense and intrinsic observation? I can see why Daniel and PMS had such an easy time fucking with you now.

    Pardon me for dissuading from the common personality I present; someone pissed in my Cherrioes this morning.*

    *=This is not me apologizing for implicating that you're a moron.

    Medusa: "Heh. Nice analysis."

    Thank you. I like to contribute intelligently.

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  69. No One said: By the way Grace, I am not a sociopath. Want to be friends?

    I wasn't sure...friend.

    Grace

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  70. Grace,

    I'm okay with my life as a sociopath, I suppose. It has its benefits, as well as its challenges. As for conflicts with myself or others, not so much anymore. I'm in my 50s now, and have learned to refrain from conflicts unless they are important to me, like most other people. In public, I function like most other people, due to an elaborate set of rules and extensive training. I confine my more socially unsavory sociopathic tendencies to my thought life.

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  71. Well congrats on having so much restraint. I'm not a sociopath, and I don't have half as much restraint. Today I wanted in the right lane, so I cut off a cop. Two days ago, I wanted to get around a guy on the highway, so I drove straight at oncoming traffic at 80 MPH, forcing the other cars to swerve. In both cases, all I cared about was getting to where I wanted to be. There was no anxiety, no fear. More a curiosity. I was curious if the cop would pull me over, and I was curious if I'd make the pass without hitting the other cars. Shit, yesterday I sent a nasty email chewing out most of my superiors at work. I got props for it from corporate, and local management either backed down or kept their mouth shut, but it's really not something to get in the habit of doing. I can't imagine keeping that shit only in my thoughts. That kind of restraint would drive me absolutely bananas.

    When my impulses say jump, I jump. Even if it's straight off a cliff.

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  72. Gabriel,

    I believe age/time tempers us all. I'm glad you don't entertain those thoughts:)

    Anon above..no jumping off cliffs. Hopefully your impulses with drive you to a therapist.

    Maybe you’re not a sociopath but there's something going on with you, by the comment you shared above anyway.

    Grace

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  75. I am a sociopath. While I have never understood some aspects of the scope of human emotion, I do understand how to respond to others' unhappiness in a way a friend would. I try to be helpful to others, knowing that there is no reason for them to keep me around if I cannot contribute to their positive experience.
    I try my best to be a good person to those around me, because I know that some of them value me for what I do for them. I might be a monster, but I am a moral one.

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