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Saturday, June 6, 2009

Am I a sociopath? (part 2)

My response:
From what I have seen, you sound like a sociopath to me, but don't be disheartened. I think you will find that as you continue to learn more about your condition and yourself, the world will begin to seem very right.

Self deception is a classic denial symptom. Denying the sociopathic aspect of yourself distorts how you see others and impairs your judgment. It is important that you realize that you are different from others -- this will help you to avoid hurting them. For instance, most people assume that everyone else is like them and project their own feelings and emotions on others, e.g. "I wouldn't be offended by that comment, so they shouldn't be, either." This is faulty thinking. What you think or feel has nothing to do with what most people think or feel. In fact, it is best to avoid all normative judgments in favor of descriptive ones. Normative judgments hide a million different biases and self deceptions that will lead you astray.

You are special. You are very smart, I am sure, but better than that, you think in a way that very few other people think. Your success at utilizing the intellect that you have likely lies in your ability to think outside of the box all the time. This is easy for you because you have never been inside the box -- you don't even know what it looks like. You can see things that no one else can because you have entirely different experiences coloring your clarity of vision -- their blindspots are where you excel and vice versa.

You seek answers. You seek logic and structure. You probably see behavior around you from neurotypicals that you cannot explain. The explanation for their behavior is the most complicated and difficult thing for a sociopath to understand, but in seeking those answers you will learn much about yourself as well. You will also learn that just because we can manipulate others does not mean we choose to do so. Just because we can exploit does not mean we choose to do so. Sometimes you find weaknesses that you do exploit, and sometimes you find flaws in society that you patch. Sociopathy includes both variants. Personal preference, upbringing, and life objectives can all influence why we choose to do what we do. What makes you a sociopath is not that you choose to do certain things, but that you are presented with an entirely different set of choices than a neurotypical person.

52 comments:

  1. Wow, that's a good response. Very insightful. Thanks.

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  2. I agree with Anonymous. Excellent response! Well done!

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  3. Maybe the reverse is true. If you can understand others, but you can't understand yourself, you may need to stop applying your logical understanding of the nature of empaths to your own thoughts and feelings. It may lead to exactly the kind of confusion you're describing here as you don't fit into that mold.

    To use the above example...
    "they would be offended by that comment, but I am not, so the following must apply to me" is faulty thinking. IMHO you need to accept your own worldview as valid, and separate it from what you observe in the people around you.

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  4. (George Cromwell III)

    This guy doens't seem like sociopath. Why go out of your way not to hurt people? The thought has never occured to me anyways. Only time I've gone out of my way not to hurt someone is if they could cause me more trouble then it's worth. Other then that, hurting them or not just falls into the flow of the situation. I guess it could be nature vs nuture, but I doubt it.

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  5. (George Cromwell III)

    Just as an additional thought, why would knowing you are a sociopath motivate you to not hurt people? I'm a little lost on your response here.

    All this you are special and smart, bla, bla, bla... is this you projecting what you want people to think of yourself onto this person? Sociopathy isn't a rosy world of choices.

    Your self aggrandizing and transference does speak volumes of your agenda and is ultimately misleading to the readers. Not that I don't find that entertaining in itself.

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  6. " why would knowing you are a sociopath motivate you to not hurt people?"

    Perhaps knowing that you are sociopath leads you to thoughts of control of yourself, so you do what would keep you in control.

    Doesn't seem the case here, though.

    I'd also argue that just because the thought never occurred to you does not mean it's not a possible thought for a sociopath. There's many reasons why it could be there.

    As for 'mes' agenda, I suppose you could be correct.

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  7. "Your self aggrandizing and transference does speak volumes of your agenda and is ultimately misleading to the readers."

    In what ways, specifically, is M.E. misleading this reader?

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  8. (George Cromwell III)

    "In what ways, specifically, is M.E. misleading this reader?"

    He is trying to make sociopathy out to be something miracle like. I guess I read too much feeling in his words. He is coming across like he is trying to manipulate you into believing sociopathy is something to be in awe of. Ultimately that translates to me that how he wants you to feel about himself. He is projecting this onto other supposed sociopaths. Like presenting all sociopaths as people of high intellect that think outside the box. Sociopathy is about trying to desperately read in the box then sell that box for personal gain.

    "Perhaps knowing that you are sociopath leads you to thoughts of control of yourself, so you do what would keep you in control."

    No, no, no my friend. I am a diagnosed sociopath and I find it quite entertaining and enjoyable. My diagnosis has never made me sit back and say... wow, I shouldn't hurt people because that is my nature. That's the whole point of being diagnosed. When I deal with people, they either get hurt or don't. It's a moment by moment thing.

    You might have a collection of antisocial characteristics but that by no stretch means you are a sociopath. But by the definition of sociopath if you say you don't hurt people because you know your nature, then you are are either lying or not a sociopath. It's pretty simple.


    Here is the best way I can describe it to you:

    Sociopathy is a analog grab for power and control down the path of least resistance.

    Nothing more, nothing less. If you enjoy playing games and don't feel bad about it ever, congratulations, you are more then likely a sociopath!

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  9. you lot should have all been drowned at birth.

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  10. (George Cromwell III)

    It would take a real psycho to drown a baby, sir.

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    1. Agreed, no joy in it. The baby wouldn't fight, it would be like going to sleep, and you can watch a baby go to sleep and pretend it is dying any day of the week.

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  11. Im "assuming" you are all real psycho's on here? If i could have drowned Hitler at birth to save the 6 million or so Jews he slaughtered, i would have.

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  12. (George Cromwell III)

    The political and social environment in Germany killed many of the Jewish people, not exclusively Hitler. Besides Hitler was not even considered a sociopath, Google it if you don't believe me. American intelligence profiled him quite well. The Nazi party did have its share of sociopaths though, but again they moved up because of the environment that empaths enabled. So though it seems easy to put all the blame squarely on the shoulders of Hitler, but the general population were the ones tattling on their neighbors and sending them to the death camps.

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  13. I've read the profile of a sociopath, and if i thought id created one id want it drowned at birth because of what it would grow up to be. It wouldn't even be fit to call a human yet alone "special". As for Hitler, do you really think he had a conscience? Do you really believe he felt guilt or remorse? Do you think he felt anything knowing he was sending millions of women, children and men to be murdered? Of course not. Hitler should have been drowned at birth...and i repeat so should sociopaths.

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    1. Would you drown your pet snake merely because it does not love you, and eats the other living animals in its cage? Think of us as non-humans if you desire simply because we do not empathize and occasionally enjoy preying on other beings, but if you killed all the creatures in the world that did such, the ecosystem would crumble. I would believe it is the same for the human "ecosystem."

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  14. (George Cromwell III)

    Well, good luck with that then. If you invent a time machine and history suddly changes, I'll know it was anonymous baby killer who saved the day.

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  15. (George Cromwell)

    You should try google again. Hitler was indeed a sociopathic, sadistic, meglomanic, narcisist.He tapped into the minds of fellow sociopaths to do his bidding and more or less brainwashed the German nation by fear mongering. He was only able to do this due to Germanys economic/societal problems during that era. He was an oppourtunist. Im sure the sociopaths on this blog can relate/aspire to Hitler. Congratulations!

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  16. (George Cromwell III)

    No need for me to google it again.

    http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osstitle.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_medical_health

    By the way you talk you are either a nonself-aware sociopath or a troll. Either way I like your moxie.

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  17. "Waite, who authored an extensive psychohistory of Hitler, concluded that he suffered from borderline personality disorder, which manifested its symptoms in numerous ways and would imply Hitler was in full control of himself and his actions."

    Quote from the wiki for those too lasy to read up. Seems he was looked at more autistic/borderline.

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  18. Mr. Cromwell wrote: “He is coming across like he is trying to manipulate you into believing sociopathy is something to be in awe of.”

    Or it could be that M.E. is merely trying to put a positive spin on a label that is almost universally considered negatively. You could be right about M.E.’s motives. I don’t know. I don’t think his/her motives are relevant in any event, especially considering the fact that other people’s motives are beyond our ability to grasp with certainty. The real question for me is whether M.E.’s descriptions are useful or not.

    “I guess I read too much feeling in his words.”

    I think you did too. I would agree that in the strictest sense, having sociopathic tendencies is more neutral than good or bad. It’s nothing more or less than a variation on a theme, the theme being the human personality.

    “Here is the best way I can describe it to you:

    Sociopathy is a analog grab for power and control down the path of least resistance.

    Nothing more, nothing less. If you enjoy playing games and don't feel bad about it ever, congratulations, you are more then likely a sociopath!”

    Is that true? Is the label that cut and dried? Are the lines dividing sociopaths (or those with strong sociopathic tendencies) from “normals” that big and bright? If so, how do you know?

    Also, I notice in your definition that you say that sociopaths enjoy playing games, not that they always do play them. So even by your own definition, one doesn’t always have to play games in order for the label of sociopath to fit. According to you it’s the inner disposition that counts.

    Why does one have to act like what amounts to a comic book villain in order for the label of sociopath to accurately fit that person?

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  19. (George Cromwell III)

    "Or it could be that M.E. is merely trying to put a positive spin on a label that is almost universally considered negatively."

    Ohh, M.E. is definitely trying to put a positive spin on the label. I don't fault him from trying to validate who he is/thinks he is.

    "The real question for me is whether M.E.’s descriptions are useful or not."

    Bingo

    "Is the label that cut and dried? Are the lines dividing sociopaths (or those with strong sociopathic tendencies) from “normals” that big and bright? If so, how do you know?"
    "Why does one have to act like what amounts to a comic book villain in order for the label of sociopath to accurately fit that person?"

    Dr. Hare thinks that there is a divide between sociopaths and normals. Someone with sociopathic tendencies is a murky beast. I can give you a very clinical answer to your questions, but you can do the research yourself. I'd rather give you a personal answer.

    One doesn't need to act like a comic book villain in order for the label of sociopath accurately fit themselves. I give an extreme view to impart the distinction. You are right, it's the inner disposition. The amount of inner conflict and the direction of inner dialog is key. Minimal conflict and impulsive dialog is what I experience. Most sociopaths don't even consider themselves defective enough to do any research into the matter. The conflict to tell themselves something is wrong and to find out what just isn't there. There is a minority that does realize what they are, but only because of the infamy. It becomes a tool to feed their ego. See the documentary "I, Psychopath" for a clear example.

    "Also, I notice in your definition that you say that sociopaths enjoy playing games, not that they always do play them. So even by your own definition, one doesn’t always have to play games in order for the label of sociopath to fit."

    Very true, but no sociopath goes out of their way not to play games because of the damage it may cause in life. Impulse prevents that from happening.

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  20. Mr. Cromwell, some “quick” points:

    One, I don’t view personality characteristics as an either/or proposition. It makes more sense to me to view them on a continuum ranging from strong to weak. One can have very strong sociopathic tendencies or very weak ones. For instance, I appear to experience much less in the way of guilt than others. I’m pretty sure I’ve felt some guilt, especially as it relates to some children that I left behind (I think). But when my friends and family explained to me once how they experienced guilt, I realized that I’d never felt that way about any of the so called “wrong” things I’ve done. And using your definition again, I admit that playing games with other people has been some of the most fun I’ve ever had. But I haven’t gone out of my way to play games with people’s lives either. Well, at least not recently anyway. Finally, I’m familiar with Dr. Hare’s work and yes, I do fit some of the characteristics on his famous checklist, while others don’t describe me at all. So in my view, I have sociopathic tendencies, but am I an “official sociopath”? Who knows and who cares? I find the label useful but otherwise, it isn’t relevant in the larger scheme of things.

    Two, I liked M.E.’s original response to the inquirer because it implied something that is continually overlooked by normals on all educational levels:

    “your success at utilizing the intellect that you have likely lies in your ability to think outside of the box all the time. this is easy for you because you have never been inside the box, don't even know what it looks like.”

    I’d go as far as to suggest that there is no box. There is no good evidence to suggest that the morals that normals so highly prize exist anywhere outside of their own minds. Which puts the sociopath at an advantage because they are unable to believe the unbelievable. They are not compelled to obey the rules by painful emotions like guilt and shame. Naturally, this makes the sociopath a threat to normals, hence all of the vilification and fear mongering. If there was really something there to see in terms of morality, then I’d agree that those who can’t have some kind of pathology. But if there isn’t anything there, then who has the pathology, the one who doesn’t see what isn’t there or the hallucinator? That’s what M.E. is implying, in my view. M.E. seems to be telling the inquirer not to believe the hype because that’s all it is. As far as what M.E.’s motives are, who knows?

    Three, I generally agree with the comments in your last two paragraphs. You’re probably right. Going out of one’s way to avoid playing games with others is probably not high on a sociopath’s to do list.

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  21. (anonymous reader in question)

    I've considered BPD as well, but there are reasons why I keep coming back to sociopathy. Most of it is in my past. Before I used drugs, my entire life was a game spent torturing others in whatever way I could--usually online as I was very good at exploiting computer systems. But if I could do it elsewhere, I did, and I always maintained a spotless image. To this day, I still feel no remorse for any of it. To this day, I still remember it as the most fun I've had in my entire life.

    To this day, I still feel an impulsive need to test almost every site I visit for vulnerabilities. It's not easy to resist, and I'm not always able to. But usually, I can.

    To this day, in almost every situation, I'm thinking of ways to screw people over. I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty much OK with just fantasies.

    I'm able to satisfy some impulses through scambaiting. It's something you guys might want to look into if you want to have some fun at someone else's expense.

    I do have a lot of internal confusion, but as the emails state, it's pretty much only when actively trying to figure myself out. I don't wander around wondering who I am all day--only when it becomes an issue.

    Why do I try not to hurt people? I don't know. I can't give you an emotional reason, that much is certain. I had a major mental meltdown after being on a cocktail of every illegal drug I could find for about 2 years straight, and I've never been the same since. I've been more aware of myself, my state of mind, and my actions, and I feel like I was given the opportunity to decide what I wanted to be rather than simply be it.

    Maybe that disqualifies me from being a sociopath. If it does--good. It's a label I could do without. If it doesn't--oh well.

    If I was a sociopath, one theory I have is that the drugs killed the "game" aspect of it for me and left me with the rest. Now I'm just trying to live a life with as little conflict as possible despite my impulses, lack of genuine morals, and inability to empathize or relate.

    Don't get me wrong. When I need to hurt people, I do. Just a few months ago, I convinced my boss to lay off a guy with 8 more years experience and 3 kids instead of me. Then I sat and joked with the guy for the next two weeks, even had him help me move, buy me lunch, and drive me around, knowing what was in store for him. I don't feel guilty for it at all. I'd do it over again in a heartbeat, but if there were a way that didn't involve hurting him, I'd certainly have chosen it first.

    *shrug*

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  22. Okay, correction, I'm not thinking of ways to screw people over in every situation; however, it's definitely once a day at the very least. I usually spin it into a joke to get it out of my system.

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  23. (George Cromwell III)

    I'm going write out a longer more thought out post later, because I have no time now. But I'll leave the (anonymous reader in question) a question have you every considered that you changed your brain chemistry? You could have chemically induced schizophrenia. I'm not saying thats whats it, but its just a quick passing thought. Anyways you have given me something to think about. I'm going to go kill a spider on my wall. Too be continued later...

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  24. Nothing wrong about being a schitzo!!! It can be quite entertaining ;)

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  25. Aside from emotional flatness and social problems, I don't have any symptoms of schizophrenia.

    I don't hear things. I don't see things. I don't think I'm the antichrist.
    I don't get confused--unless I'm trying to make sense of myself.

    My problems started in my childhood, not in my teens or when I began to abuse drugs.
    I just didn't think there was anything unusual about my thoughts or behavior until my drug abuse.


    For example:
    In high school, when anyone greeted me, my first thought was: "what's their motive?"
    I didn't see anything wrong with that until after the drug abuse.

    From 8 years or so until 20 years old, I had an intense fascination with fire. I'd set things on fire just to watch them burn... several times a day, nearly every single day. Anything I didn't need had a pretty good chance of being set on fire. I'd even mix up chemicals and set them on fire in the back yard. Lighter fluid and shampoo? Sounds good. Let's mix it up, pour it on the ant hole, and then set it on fire. I didn't see anything unusual about that until after the drug abuse.

    There's a long list of other problems with the same theme: I didn't see anything unusual about it until after the drugs.


    I'm far more social after my drug use than I ever was before it, and I'm no longer delusional about my place in the world.
    I no longer fantasize about ruling the world and sterilizing anyone with a disability. (that started in elementary school)
    I no longer think the world is full of inferior beings with no rights, though I do still have a lot of trouble recognizing boundaries.

    I don't think there's much of a chance that my primary condition is drug-induced. Quite the opposite.

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  26. To the reader/inquirer:

    Look man, I don’t think this is as complicated as you’re making it. First, last and foremost, look for clarity. You won’t find the answer you seek until you’ve clarified the question. Are you trying to find yourself? If you are, then I can assure you that there isn’t one to find. Are you trying to define yourself, which is a different thing from finding yourself? If you are, then you may have trouble finding one description that covers all of your characteristics. If you’re looking for a precise psychiatric diagnosis from a qualified professional, then by all means get over your aversion to authority figures and see a shrink. If you’re merely looking for a set of labels that seem to describe your natural character traits (those thoughts, instincts and emotions that manifest when you’re not putting on a mask for others around you) and you find that the sociopathic label has great explanatory power for you, then by all means adapt it. As Mr. Cromwell alluded to in one of his responses to me, you might also check out Dr. Hare’s work on psychopaths, especially his checklist.

    In any event, who gets to decide which labels work with regard to understanding yourself in lieu of a professional opinion? You do. Not Mr. Cromwell, not M.E. and not yours truly. To paraphrase that great sage and immanent junkie George Bush, “YOU ARE THE DECIDER” my friend. Always have been, always will be.

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  27. Tink said: "Nothing wrong about being a schitzo!!! It can be quite entertaining ;)"

    Spoken like a true schizo! (Kidding!)

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  28. Mr Birdick no offence taken ha! Im far from normal, infact it comes to something when the only place on the internet i feel comfortable posting is on sociopathworld. Jeez iv got issues! oh well :)
    I better go and make my alter ego some food, before i start telling myself off.

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  29. (George Cromwell III)

    Daniel Birdick is on the ball. I still don't think you are a sociopath, but hey, if it empowers you go for it. Read "Without Conscience" by Dr. Hare, a good read and should clear some things up for you.

    Schizophrenia doesn't always come with the auditory and visual hallucinations. The blunted effect, social issues and anxiety you experience lead me to what I think. Ask people around you if what you say can sometimes be hard to interpret. You won't nescisarily notice it yourself. Another test is check your eye tracking. Schizophrenics have a hard time tracking a line through a tight grid, there eyes jump up couple lines up or down by the time they reach the end of the lines. Look into your family history as well.

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  30. (George Cromwell III)

    Hmm, no edit feature here. That second to last line should have read:

    "Schizophrenics have a hard time tracking a line through a tight grid, their eyes jump up or down a couple lines by the time they reach the end of the lines."

    Speaking of being hard to interpret. LOL

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  31. (riq)

    George,
    Most people have a problem following lines in grids. I know this because I find myself getting impatient and pointing at what people are looking for in charts and graphs while they follow lines with their fingers. I really don't think that's a sign of schizophrenia, and even if it is, it's definitely not something I have trouble with.

    I do have trouble with speech, but I'm content that it's related to anxiety. If I practice speaking alone, I do just fine, and I don't have any problems when I'm feeling confident or have had a bit to drink; however, I will say that the speech problems did get worse after the drugs.

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  32. (George Cromwell III)

    Some information on schizophrenic eye tracking:

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1188319

    http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/397/397eyestudy.html

    Heredity and genetics of schizophrenia:

    http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/hereditygen.htm


    I understand Riq, lots of people do have trouble and it's a good indicator if it runs in their family. If you have no trouble with it then, that is that. I will say taking a mix of B12, folic acid and omega oils will help with thought clarity and anxiety. I also recommend meditation, regular exercise and the realization that the barking chiwawas called people should cause you no concern. Best of luck, rottweiler.

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  33. I would have absolutely no trouble killing a baby whom I knew was to grow up as a sociopath. In fact I would probably enjoy it somewhat. There are also many sociopaths I have met in my life who have attempted to do me harm & who I would gladly (and quite capably) have killed stone dead - enjoying every moment - only it suited ME not to. They simply are not worth spending the rest of my life in jail for _ I have more productive things to do with my life.
    That doesn't make me sociopathic myself, just the daughter of an elite trained killer who is trained to kill other human beings with his bare hands (both my father and my uncle are ex paratroopers - natural progression for paras is the SAS)
    Those of us who are considered 'normal' tend to realise that there is a time and place for harming/killing other living things. Sometimes it's good to go, other times it's not - we have the ability to discern and decide.
    Sociopaths have no concept of that distinction and therein lies the problem...

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  34. Hey miss Anon right above me:

    Just thought I'd note that:
    "There are also many sociopaths I have met in my life who have attempted to do me harm & who I would gladly (and quite capably) have killed stone dead - enjoying every moment - only it suited ME not to. They simply are not worth spending the rest of my life in jail for _ I have more productive things to do with my life."

    This seems like a HUGE rationalization. Carry on now, other commenters.

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  35. GI Jane wrote: "Those of us who are considered 'normal' tend to realise that there is a time and place for harming/killing other living things. Sometimes it's good to go, other times it's not - we have the ability to discern and decide."

    Ha, ha, ha! That is truly rich. Normals are so thoughtful and wise when it comes to deciding when to kill and when not to. History certainly bears that out, doesn't it?

    "Sociopaths have no concept of that distinction and therein lies the problem..."

    Really? Is that so? Do you base this on your vast knowledge of human history and psychology or from your own personal experience of being a closeted cold blooded killer in denial?

    Man you normals slay me!

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  36. oh shit please carry on people..this is funny!!! Whats happened?? iv been gone a week and you lot are all eating each other lmao!! Now its really starting to get interesting.

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  37. Okay... Between the cluster of pseudo psycho babble on part 1 and the generalizations on psychotic behavior linked to sociopathic personality types I feel like I've just had my brain sucked out of my butt. Seriously... Why do people seem to feel the need to psychoanalys themselves and every little hiccup in their thought process? It's like fiber myalgia and Nothingness Syndrome all over again. Take it from me... a glorified self diagnose-er, stop looking for mental illness. Just stop it. I've had every avenue of psychology and the psychotherapies crammed in, up, over, and around every orafice in my body since I was evolved enough to have said body parts. It's all a bunch of bs that keeps you spinning in circles. If you want to be labeled as a sociopath, trust me... all the listed symptomology will fit. You'll make it fit. It's why we have a pill for every function and by-product of the human condition. Most of the symptoms of just about any character disorder is found to be a natural aspect of every human being on the friggin planet. It's normal to have deviant thought processes and it even normal to be troubled, enthused, apathetic, or oblivious to all of the deviations from the quoted norms. I think my father and his peers had me diagnosed as just about every friggin character disorder at one time or another before I even hit high school. Drugs or no drugs, criminal behavior or an angelic exsistence... Shit, no matter how you spin the way you are and how you roll through each minute of every day, it's just the way you are. Here on the Internet a serious amount of people will profess to be this or to suffer from that... Lord, I think just about every single person on part 1 claimed to be a sociopath. It's mostly gonna be bs. True sociopathic personalities as described by the community of psychiatric and medical professionals is rare. Not because it isn't reported... Not because every sociopath must be a serial killer in the making (which is complete ignorance. Sociopathic personalities do not automatically and even rarely equal seriall killers). It's because all of the factors, all the symptoms have a specific set of guidelines that are unspoken in the diagnostic manuals. There is a shit load more to labeling someone a sociopath than looking it up on wiki or reading the DSM. It takes some serious time to get beneath the multitude of other character disorders that parade together as sociopathic behavior. And don't forget... you can be labeled a sociopath by a trained professional (even multiple professionals), but it could actually be multiple character behavior disorders instead. THAT would be more likely than true sociopathic personality. Either way, some of the greatest minds and most influential people could be considered sociopaths. Look at Donald Trump, for crying out loud. No matter what you are going through... you really should stop trying to come up with the answers online or by yourself. It won't work. Trust me... I've been there, lol....

    Oh... And I'm only posting anonymously because I don't have accounts to link this posting to. Sorry...

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  38. I dont know why but i want to punch this cromwell guy hard in the mouth. It's a very strong urge with no valid reason.

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  39. I am sure I am not normal. I have never fit in and never had many friends. I have killed and hurt and I neither relish the memory nor do I find shame in it. I do still feel though. I have have anger and I feel the need for vengeance I think that vengeance is my greatest motivator. I am content to plan how to kill an entire familly over nothing more than an issue at work. I like the idea of having the person watch as I slice up their children and explain the wife that its her husbands fault and then do the same to her and make him watch finally in the end finishing him while telling him to think about how his familly felt as I carved them up like a thanksgiving turkey. I have devoted more time to these flights of fancy than most pursuits. I think my favorite part is stalking the prey. I feel no guilt in these thoughts and I am fairly certain I only dont carry them out because im not willing to deal with the legal ramifications. So I know im not normal and it doesnt bother me but I guess I want to know what I am for curiosities sake. Can any one here give me any insights since sociopaths are so quick at figuring people out?

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  40. I am sure I am not normal. I have never fit in and never had many friends. I have killed and hurt and I neither relish the memory nor do I find shame in it. I do still feel though. I have have anger and I feel the need for vengeance I think that vengeance is my greatest motivator. I am content to plan how to kill an entire familly over nothing more than an issue at work. I like the idea of having the person watch as I slice up their children and explain the wife that its her husbands fault and then do the same to her and make him watch finally in the end finishing him while telling him to think about how his familly felt as I carved them up like a thanksgiving turkey. I have devoted more time to these flights of fancy than most pursuits. I think my favorite part is stalking the prey. I feel no guilt in these thoughts and I am fairly certain I only dont carry them out because im not willing to deal with the legal ramifications. So I know im not normal and it doesnt bother me but I guess I want to know what I am for curiosities sake. Can any one here give me any insights since sociopaths are so quick at figuring people out?

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