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Thursday, October 16, 2008

Sociopaths advise on how to deal with sociopaths, part I

There aren't many places for sociopaths in this world, even on the World Wide Web. There's the elite sociopath website, this blog, and a couple other brave souls I've seen outing themselves anonymously. In contrast, there are a ton of sites and support groups for victims of sociopaths. Sociopaths frequently troll these adding their two cents. And so here we have sociopaths giving advice on how to deal with sociopaths:

"If he's not out to get something else from you (sex, money, whatever), but is after a "relationship", then the following is what happens in my experience: For a brief while, the psychopath "feels" something. He can fool himself into being the very thing that he longs for so dearly: normal. When you're gone, though, his patterns begin to slip. They begin to fade as any memory does. Remember that he can't hang his memories on anything because there is no core to hang them on. To him, you've got part of him walking around in you. He wants that back. If someone had taken a part of who you are, what would you go through to have it again?"

"Psychopaths are natural masters of body language and nuance as it is a survival skill."

"I've always had anger as long as I can remember. I'm thinking it is the one emotion it seems I can really FEEL."

"It doesn't bother me in the least if people are angry. I believe I rather enjoy it. I'm thinking since I can't have love, might as well have hate."

"I adore a good fight! Not many things will stop me from causing strife wherever I go. I have to have a pretty good reason not to start disassembling social structures."

"The repeated references to narcissists lacking emotion and being unable to love others seems straight out of the typewriter of proselytising evangelists who couldn't made a sentence without relying on either a misconception, an exaggeration, an outright lie, or, as here, irrational generalisations. Did you study your manual? Do you have it all memorised so you can strike out at your proverbial abuser with incomplete medical information and a malicious lack of understanding? At least I've never accused someone of being less-than-human. I just proclaim myself as greater-than-human. Heh."

258 comments:

  1. I broke up with my boyfriend a few days ago because after many lies I became suspicious and logged on to a few of his accounts and found out that he had also been cheating. This man told me he loved me within 3-4 weeks of meeting me. Has constantly told me how beautiful and sexy I was. Had a sex drive that was incredible. We could have sex several times a day and he would still masturbate. He could have orgasms one after the other up to 4 in a row. During all of this he was seeing another woman who he had started an affair with prior to me once a week at lunch. He wanted me to have his baby, wanted to move in with me. Said I could stay home with the child and not work. Everythink that I wanted he swore he wanted too. A little farm in the country, yes, organic food, yes. He knew my ex had pushed me to have an abortion so he was going to have his vasectomy reversed so that we could have a child together. All of this while lying constantly, texting other women on a regular basis, having a long term affair with another. He is a heavy pot smoker, heavy drinker. He believes he is very intelligent. The things that make me question whether he was a sociopath are that he was in the navy for 8 years. Married for 10 but she left him because of his constant lying, pot addiction and bursts of anger. She said it was like dealing with Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. He has a great job now that he has had for several years and seems to be fairly conscientious about it. He screws off a lot but he has a lot of responsiblity and seems to take it seriously when necessary. After breaking up with him he denied for several days even though I had written proof and then went from being angry and mean to begging me to give him another chance from one hour to the next. He swears that his D day for being the man that I deserved was when he was moving in (just a few after I caught him) but I assume it is all just more lies. Does that sound like a Sociopath or is there something closely related that has more bearing? It really shouldn't matter but for some stupid reason if it is based on an actual condition maybe I don't have to feel like such an idiot for buying into what he was selling. He made me feel like the most beautiful woman in the world and swore I made him a better man but his actions were so the opposite. I am self diagnosing him but I thought I would look for a little feedback.

    Thanks.

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    1. I have not been on this site for awhile but the owner of this site knows who cherokeeangel is.... anyway, I lived with one for years and this is just the beginning darling , run!!! do not look back... Any promises are empty and it will only continue to get worse... The cheating could also involve partners of the same sex and probably does in many cases , they have no limitations and see nothing wrong with anything they do... In fact they think its odd we fee l the way we do...And the whole ' Have my baby and stay at home thing" that is a ploy to get you to where they have control in your life always... and as well as having an extension of themselves... another pat on the back for them to give themselves and keep you down.... Like I said RUN! Do not look back... they make you fall head over heels and they are aware of this and manipulate you and dominate your whole life while they live freely....There is a great book called "The Mask Of Sanity" you should read as well as keeping up with this great site they have provided...good luck...

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    2. He is a sociopath. U just described my ex to the T! Celebrate your freedom and never look back.

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    3. THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE MAN I WANTED TO LOVE, BUT HE WOULDN'T ALLOW ME TO LOVE HIM. I ALWAYS BELIEVED HE WAS CAPABLE AND ABLE TO CHEAT. ONE DAY A WOMAN CALLED HIM WHILE WE WERE CHILLIN OUT AND SHE WAS DISMISSED. HE BLATANTLY HUNG UP THE PHONE ON HER! I KNEW THAT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS BUSTED. I HAVE TO ADMIT I AM A FOOL, BECAUSE I SAW IT COMING AND WAITED ALMOST 2 YEARS TO BE TIRED ENOUGH TO LET IT GO. MY HEART IS BROKEN BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO GET OVER, BUT HE'S A LIAR AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME.. ALL THE ARGUING AND DRAMATICS. I WILL MISS DOING THINGS WITH HIM. WE DID HAVE FUN AND GREAT SEX.

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    4. u have no evidence or proof that a devil or a evil source exists therefor its not a fact sociopaths are mislead and dont get the right treatment or help

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    5. There is no treatment fool. I know you like to believe evil is a religious concept and that ever1 is basically good, but by spreading this delusion you are making it easier for sociopaths to continue their abuse. They secretly laugh at liberal idiots like you who still live in lala land. Sociopathy often has genetic roots.

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    6. To the Anon who posted first: Damn, but your ex sounds so much like me. I've been married for 23 years to a wonderful, beautiful woman. SHe has put up with far more than anyone short of Job should ever have to. Cheating, lying, screwing her over financially...in many ways, I'm responsible for every negative thing in our lives. It is all easily traced back to me. SHe was head-over -heels in love with me; in fact, she still loves me, despite the horrific history. She always told me something was wrong with me, but I kept begging for forgiveness and promising never to do it again--promises that I was incapable of keeping. I finally quit cheating about 16 years gone now, but my acting out began to be expressed by silly lies, manipulation, control, acting like an ass, always getting what I wanted despite what the household required, etc. I treated my youngest daughter like crap, mentally torturing her, because subconciously I regretted her birth. I didn't want her when my wife said dhe was pregnant, I refused to accept it to the point of denying the obvious evidence. I've looked online for some sort of support group for socio- or psychopaths, and found zilch. I wouldn't be writing this now except that she finally convinced me (me kicking and screaming all the way) that my reality was in fact massively dysfunctional. I always thought I was just eccentric, when I have been quietly batshit nuts for years and years. There is evidence of it from my teenage years, even. What really seems to have exarbated the issue was that I started smoking MJ about 3 years ago. Boy, did that make things worse. For what it's worth, I realize what an A-hole I've been, and am seeing a psychiatrist and a therapist. I'm taking meds for my bipolar. I'm forging what I intend to be an inviolable moral code. I'm going to seriously give being one of you 'mundanes' a whirl, because I truly do not want to hurt anyone else.

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  2. Feedback; go by what he did/does; if it does not match what he says, he's lying. You are torturing YOURSELF, stop it.

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  3. I think I'm dealing with a covetous sociopath.

    This girl in my class keeps telling everyone how she "loves helping people", but constantly contradicts herself. She found out that my aunt died from breast cancer and then proceeded to do a mean and nasty little skit infront of the class making fun of people that have cancer. She also found out that I liked a guy in class and now she acts overtly sexual around him and he's given in. She overheard me saying to some friends that a modeling agency was interested in me and now she's posted half-naked pictures of herself on the internet [sposedly that "he" took] and says she wants to be a model and has even applied to the place that was interested in me. I try to stay away from her as much as possible and now she's been going around saying that I was being mean to her and that I avoid people and am antisocial. I really think that she's mentally ill. Why do some people get joy from trying to bother and ruin other peoples' lives? Why won't she just leave me alone?

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    1. Someone's read 'The Sociopath Next Door' I see

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  4. "Why do some people get joy from trying to bother and ruin other peoples' lives?"

    Um, because we can. It's really that simple.

    Your story reminds me of an old song, "Anything you can do, I can do better." She's not going to leave you alone. She sees you as a rival, and she will not stop until she ruins you.

    That's what you're dealing with. So, you can either sit back and let her swallow you whole, or you can fight back.

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    1. An Asshole needs no help being an ass. He/She does quite well on their own. Take a step up and back. Shake your head at her and walk away. She and others see what she is made of. If she has one-upmanship against you, she has done this to others....and not very well. She wants the drama to feel alive. Like a tantrum aflicked child, step over her intense desire for attention and don't let it affect your stride. Just disasociate yourself with her shenanigans. Make her a nonperson. Definatition of a nonperson is the amount of care you have seeing a croud of people walking down a busy street. She will pass by and you will not even notice.

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  5. In response to the statement above 'because we can'. Essentially, the people who engage with sociopaths aren't aware that they are being manipulated, lied to etc. etc. For some, things eventually don't add up and perhaps they loose faith/trust in the person and move on. But, for most people the discovery is pretty shocking and distressing. You've basically invested time in someone who doesn't care about you at all and has just been using you as entertainment or for money or whatever. And , no, you can't 'fight back'. Do you really think that people with a conscience will be able to fight a sociopath on whatever spectrum they belong to? Why waste your life/time on a person who feels no guilt, shame, remorse - nothing. What do you think fills their heads and days, while the rest of us are debating moral and ethical concerns on a daily basis? It's delusional to suggest that anyone fight back. If you value your time and your life, cut them off. Walk away. Don't look back.

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    1. Great advice.

      Sociopaths are pros at lying and manipulating. I was not brought up to lie. They will win all the time because that is their nature, that is what they do. They will always win at that game.

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    2. I tend to partly disagree... My girlfriend that I am about to break up with soon is a socialpath based on what I recently discovered according to my research, Yes she is the most remarkable and crafty liar and manipulator she even had my mom and her circle of friends convinced of what she says to them as a fact. However I pay close attention to what she says and her actions, and when I confront her about whatever does not make sense, and I tell her the logical reasons why in my perspective,She gets herself out of the confrontation by concluding evasively without addmission or denial. and the next time I talk to her the subject allready dropped of the face of the earth with no closure. So yes It is possable to beat them at thier own game. She lost without her even knowing it,all you have to do is analize how they react to sertain situations and remember their behavior patterns in how they handle certain situations that is the only way you can know the for sure truth. so yea it was a waste of time I feel, however, my clear understanding of her true nature came to me a few years too late. Its all about how they handle certain life situations and case scenarios that will speak louder than words. I hope this helps. Good luck to you all.

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  6. To the person who said "Um because we can", actually you know you can't do anything like normal people or else or else you wouldn't be acting like an outcast. Whenever you have to resort to being anything but yourself just to enjoy the same benefits most normal people work hard for, that's the same as saying you know you're useless without hope. Do yourself a favor and get some professional help. You'll feel a whole lot better about yourself in the long run.

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    1. Sociapath do not care about anything other than what they can use a person for, and ones there parasidic way of living is found out, they still don't care, they figure oh well it was fun while it lasted, and move on to another host to suck dry. Professtional help won't do any good, because they do not feel anything is wrong with them.

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  7. "Evil. Bad. The Devil." These are all terms that could describe sociopathic behavior. Just realize the "Devil" is really nothing more than a selfish child. There's really nothing more to it than that. Imagine if you behaved like you did when you were five years old today. What would you do? How would you act? What would you care about? Acquiring toys? Making your own rules? Doing whatever you want?
    Self-gratification? Of course you would. And do you care how your parents FEEL? Of course not. You're five years old. You only care how YOU feel. And you feel happy when you GET WHAT YOU WANT.

    Now you are thirty-five years old. You have new needs, bigger and more complex desires. Money, sex, power, respect. And people (a.k.a. lower beings)assume you are a fully grown, responsible mature adult. You will stop at nothing to get what you want and there are no "adults" to tell you to follow any rules. You're a kid in a candy store. You would learn to hide your emotional immaturity. You would have realized people get upset when you behave selfishly. You would learn to follow some rules because jail or exposure is contrary to your goals. But you don't follow them because following them is "right." You follow what you have to follow in order to maintain the facade. Deep down you have contempt for authority. All children get angry sometimes when the don't get what they want. You learn to lie, con, steal, manipulate, and use people to satisfy your childish needs and you think you are the smartest, coolest person on earth.

    Congratulations. You are now a sociopath.

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  8. Sociopaths grow old but they never grow up. They have underdeveloped base emotions on the level of children (i.e. 100% self-centered). Shame, remorse, empathy and guilt make NO SENSE to a little child. At the same time, they have adult bodies and minds in every other way. They have no "conscience," no sense of anyone beyond themselves. Different ones want different things (just as all people do). However, they are all the same in the respect that only what they want matters. For this reason they are dangerous. They will hurt other people because only they matter in their own minds and other people are either helpers or hindrances to them, but others ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS by the sociopathic definition of a human being. We all define humanity by what we are. To a sociopath a human being is a self-gratification machine and they are WINNING THE GAME. They are menatlly "ill," but more correctly, they are mentally and emotionally underdeveloped.

    DO NOT LISTEN TO A SOCIOPATH. Would you listen to a two-year old?

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  9. My comment as a non-sociopath to a sociopath:

    Your greatest fear is to be exposed and alone. Your professions of superiority are a cover-up. You can't be a real person because you have no true beliefs beyond the self. You are forced to constantly change the self to get what you want. You are emotionally dead. You are spiritually dead. Your brain is literally malfunctioning, the centers that should be firing in the pre-frontal lobe aren't.

    My empathy for a sociopath (not that they care). You have a blessing and a curse. A blessing because you don't have to feel the agony of guilt, the pain of betrayal, the suffering of others. A curse because you don't feel love. You don't feel joy. You don't feel anything real beyond desire (because your brain is functioning on a primitive level).

    It's not our fault. Don't inflict pain on other people for something we aren't responsible for. Respect other people have feelings even if you don't "understand" them. You have a fully functioning rational mind and the ability to know right from wrong. "Normal" people aren't your enemy. Learn to respect they are different from you. If you were so "smart," you would use your "smartness" for the betterment of the world and not just your own "self."

    You aren't the center of the universe, sociopath. You're just one person out of a billion. You're as human as anyone else so drop the arrogance, it ticks us off. No one likes a group of smart-asses who think they are superior to everyone else. Life is not a game, people aren't objects, the end goal is not maximize pleasure and survive at any cost. That's what ANIMALS do in the jungle. People have evolved beyond that mentality. Empathy is not a lower form of mentality.

    I'm truly sorry for anyone to have to exist that way. I'm sure God has something really good in store for you since you had to go through it. Being a sociopath would be miserable.

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    1. Why have you thought so deeply about this?

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    2. I score quite high on sociopath and psychopath tests. I've never bothered with a diagnosis, because my life is going famously. I differ markedly from most conceptions of socios/psychos, though. I am able to maintain long-term relationships. I have friendships that go back decades, and relationships with women that have been 7 and 11 years long, and quite successful in their own way, and not just to my benefit. Or at least the women involved tell me so, and I maintain decent and civil relations with them still.

      I do often manipulate people and am prone to lying if it suits my needs. I am apparently charming, in that if I decide to attend a social event, handfuls of "maybes" automatically decide to show up just because I will be there. So much so that friends name drop me to get folks to show. I am capable of callousness, cruelty, and ruthlessness; but never to those that show me kindness. I would use the word friend here, though I'm aware that most normal people have a different concept of friendship than I do. Loyalty is important to me. I have a certain code of conduct, you might say. It isn't 'right' or 'wrong.' It is just mine. Get on my bad side by hurting me or those that benefit me, and I will risk everything to destroy you and I won't feel anything or even look back as you're bleeding out. I have a very shallow affect and have had only fleeting moments of actual joy, but also never grief.

      I am, however, kind to homeless people and strangers. I volunteer at homeless shelters, even - which I'm given to understand would be exceptionally rare for someone 'like me.' When I can give to someone in need out of my own excess, I find no rational reason not to. Why be callous, or cruel to someone who has done me no ill? Why spare a $10 bill that I could as easily lose and not notice? Rather, my best option is to feign empathy, show material kindness, and be esteemed in the eyes of normal folks who can't even be bothered to do more than feel pity for all the good that does the poor SOB looking for a meal or a fix.

      Sometimes a situation warrants kindness, other times, cruelty. Neither situation makes me feel a particular way.
      Unwarranted cruelty, say to animals, is as ridiculous to me as unwarranted kindness to violent sexual offenders or the like. But it doesn't inspire in me any feelings, except perhaps a low-level anger, or revulsion.

      But, your ideals about superiority or inferiority of an entire class of people are fairly ridiculous. There are many "normal" people that I am superior to, and many that I am not. This is no cover-up. I don't have all that many feelings that get in my way and cloud my mind. I can't feel shame. Whether others feel I'm inferior or not is as irrelevant to me as whether or not they feel sadness, grief, or whatever the hell else consumes you people.

      While I understand that NOT feeling these things is alien to you, and you therefore can only believe that it would be miserable to live without them, let me provide a contrary point of view: I see people tortured by grief, heartbreak, shame, or regret. Doesn't seem like a good time. Despite being able to feel happiness and joy, normal people still go out to the bars and drink. So, if this joy that you hold as so sanctified is so great, why would people seek to lube themselves up in alcohol? Why is it so hard for people to accept that tragedy and pain in their lives is the COST for feeling joy, and yet they FEAR that pain.

      I surmise it is because you're deluding yourself to think that joy is so great, and that being a sociopath is so miserable. I look forward to every single day. I literally don't remember a time that wasn't the case. Can you say that, truly?

      It isn't so miserable. Though it can be difficult.

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  10. I agree: sociopaths are idiots. I've seen it all: their actions are always ultimately self-defeating. Sadly, they can't see it, which in a way makes them SUB-human, not superior. Cheating someone may give them a short term gain, but eventually word gets around and nobody wants to associate with him/her. Sure, the sociopath may travel to different places and try to prey on people there, but surely money and time are wasted in moving around all the time.

    Sociopaths are like bacteria in a petri dish. The feeding and conquering seems nice at first, but eventually they die in their own waste.

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  11. Sociopaths are like bacteria in a petri dish. The feeding and conquering seems nice at first, but eventually they die in their own waste.

    Excellent analogy. Bravo.

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    1. Really, that's an apt description of humanity in general.

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  12. The anons @ 10:38 and 10:55 are saying that sociopaths are basically retarded. Is that right?

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    1. my friend that is a really good question, according to my experience Socialpaths are really super intelligent in how they lie and make it seem like the truth really good and masters at manipulation, and really excellent actors,(they mimic emotions to how they see fit, I say that understanding sociopaths are not capable of feeling emotion in a genuine fashion) wow that really blows my mind in the ways they can do that. however, the one I ran accross she acted mildly retarded---- I found out it was part of her skeem or a front to get people to underestimate her intelligence.---

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  13. is the only reason socios feel so fantastically elated post orgasm due to the oxytocin?. Is that the only time they feel alive?.

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  14. That sounds good, but the real suspicion about their brain chemistry is that they lack most or all of the oxytocin receptors that the rest of us have. They can feel all of the other great feel-good neurotransmitters that get released during sex, but since they may statistically be unable to connect with oxytocin, there is no bonding sensation. And that also seems to be what helps create Empathy in the rest of us.

    It would be a phenomenal area for a well-funded, well defined study.

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  15. I have a child that is a sociopath that is comorbid with his bipolar disorder and autism. I'm just getting it because thinking it was his mental disorder and not wanting to admit my child is crazy. Seriously sociapaths are crazy, sorry call it what it is and deal with it. He has physically assaulted me six times and that being the last.

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  16. ..i recently transfered (same company, different store) and came into contact with one of the worst sociopaths i have ever met..upon meeting her, she told me of her losing her home in florida, how her most recent landlady cut off her electrical supply and tv cable, etc--all of this on the first day of meeting her...as she left that day, i told her goodbye and the conversation went something like this: me-bye she-bye me-i will pray for you she-why do you say that to me? me-you seem so unhappy she-don't say that to me(with an even bigger scowl on her face)...needless to say, the situation has worsened since that day..my solution?... to avoid her as much as possible during the two hours of the workday that i have to spend with her...this creature lies, manipulates, cheats and steals and seems to have all my co-workers emotionally-held as hostages...i thank God that i saw through her right away and i do pray for her every day...the more my co-workers talk about her, the more i am convinced that she might not be the worst-case scenario sociopath, but she ranks high on the list...needless to say, i am looking for work elsewhere...appealing to the higher-ups was useless...she is holding them hostage also...she thrives on the trouble and tension she creates in the workplace and plays the part of the victim well...i'm glad i read this article
    and i hope it will help someone else in their dealings with a sociopath...if they have to deal with them....

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  17. I have dated a sociopath for 5 months.And i broke up with him coz i found out he kept lying about a lot of things.Initially he kept crying and begging.Its 5 weeks since i broke up but hes emotionally made my life living hell.Ive tried cutting off but since we both are in an extremely close social circle he keeps blackmailing me to reveal intimate details of our relationship and ruin my life and reputation.So i get scared and talk to him and calm him down but now it seems like hes feeding on it and everytime he'll tell me that he just says all that to get my attention and he loves me and wudnt hurt me but it gets worse everytime.My father doesnt know about my relationship with him and i want to end this peacefully without a scene in the social circle.Please advise.

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  18. I was dating a sociopath by definition. when i first met him he told me and my roomates he was a veteran and that he was in the air force, i need to say that he was a geek and that he also enjoyed syfy wich explains most of the stupid lies he madeup, he sed that in the war he had lost both hes legs and that he recieved a purple heart for it because he had in the process saved hes man , he also explained how he's parents had to sale all of their property to pay for hes 2 or 6 and sometimes 16 million dollar reall looking legs lol ,he was not consistent on hes lies. he sed that the vains are coolers for keeping the circuit bords in the right temperature wow im stupid for falling for that one, he like i mentioned loves syfy so he would always talk about how strong his legs were because they were made up of titanium, thats were as i beleave that he came up with a high price for hes imaginary legs. i must mention that he would always talk about how he was above the law because the government protects him and how he could kill anyone if he wanted and how he had many identifications about 7 he mentioned. he would always talk about how he was smater than everyone else, he also made me feel smart and beautiful but he would talk shit about me behind my back to my bestfriends. long story short he lived with a friend of mine and my roomates, we owed this friend money because he had payed for our cat bill, point being is that the weird guy if you will was going to help our friend who we owed by forceing us to pay im back. the weird dude ended up flirting with us cute gals if i may say, and ended up playing both sides, he made himself seem like the great person who we should trust, so we did. i ended up liking him for his nerdyness, he than after three days of knowing me sed he had found the women he loves and wants to marry. we than started noticeing his lies, by than i was already his girlfriend,us being concerned for our safety i pretended to like him still but he than asked me to move in with him and so i did just to keep my bestfriends safe from his evil ways.

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  19. he would manipulate me all the time, he made it seem like he was trying to protect us from our friend who we owed but in true reality he was not he just made it seem that way so that i would stay with him,he would make up lies about how our friend planned on doing bad stuff to us, and how he would protect my roomates and I. we were than fed up with hes lies and threats that we were motivated to do research on the topic of hes bottom lies and we came up with the conclusion that i was in danger because this guy had the ways of a sociopath, and they were able to comunicate this to me in person but we were so paranode by than because i had to go back to him at the end of the day and pretend normality so that he wouldnt suspect our concluded suspicions about him.well at the end we personaly talked to our friend and told him everything and so did he. me and my roomates decided that i should comeback home and so i did , y sychotic boyfreind called all of our family's and distorted our names by calling us protitutes and dominatrix girls wow im glad to say our family's know us well and trust in us , he kept on blackmailing our family's for days allday. SECOND HALF TO THE STORY OF THE SOCIOPATH WHO THINKS HES SYFY

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  20. he would manipulate me all the time, he made it seem like he was trying to protect us from our friend who we owed but in true reality he was not he just made it seem that way so that i would stay with him,he would make up lies about how our friend planned on doing bad stuff to us, and how he would protect my roomates and I. we were than fed up with hes lies and threats that we were motivated to do research on the topic of hes bottom lies and we came up with the conclusion that i was in danger because this guy had the ways of a sociopath, and they were able to comunicate this to me in person but we were so paranode by than because i had to go back to him at the end of the day and pretend normality so that he wouldnt suspect our concluded suspicions about him.well at the end we personaly talked to our friend and told him everything and so did he. me and my roomates decided that i should comeback home and so i did , y sychotic boyfreind called all of our family's and distorted our names by calling us protitutes and dominatrix girls wow im glad to say our family's know us well and trust in us , he kept on blackmailing our family's for days allday. SECOND HALF TO THE STORY OF THE SOCIOPATH WHO THINKS HES SYFY

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  21. 3RD PART OF THE GUY WHO THINKS HES LIFE IS SYFY we went to the Orange County Police Department and found out he had an ristriction oder filed against him in LA and how he is not aloud to have a weapon on him , this trip to the Polie deparment explained a couple of things about him first being that he does not have 7 identifications and that he is not above the law like he would say and that it also explained why he had a BB gun and that he lied about having many weapons in his home. I ended everything with him after black mailing our family's and guess what he denied it but we have recordings and text data of his distortion towards us. 2 days after he called me and told me he was working hard for himself and I and how he wanted to give me a cellphone no strings attached and how he was going to give me money every month and all he wanted was for me to forgive him and that i desrve to be happy but if i could sty friends with him , i sed sure i forgive you i just dont want to see you, he than called the next day so that i would come over to pick up the cellphone he had bought me , he than started at it again with the whole lie about how he loves me and doesnt want to loose me. this guy is effing sychotic i want to get rid of him i just cant yet because i need money to pay this other guy who is gollible to this sociopaths lies. and this was a brief part of everyhing ive gone thrue in the past 2 months

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  22. help me my children have a sociopath as a dad. My oldest has just realized who and what he is! but the two younger do not, I am trying to walk away and not react to anything, but it is very hard! I always correct their behavior but never, ever address any issue with him. He is not rational, in any way. I can see so clearly now after 20 years... he had the ultimate toy he thinks other people are. he is the center of his world...noone else has ever penetrated it, he holds a special place of hate for me though as I was the first to stand up to him and call it what it is. He will never give up trying to hurt me. He had gotten very sophisticated though, the kids are his greatest fodder. Lowest form if cells collected ...sociopaths! I will continue to ignore and give no strength to him, he is nothing. I pray my children all have their awakening and see for themselves, as I am sure he will out himself. The chink in his armour is exposed. I will continue to stand as a complete contrast to him, the more wrong he does, the more right I will do. That is how I am taking back my Life...and my childrens.

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  23. Ever since living in intimate contact with a sociopath, I look for the symptoms in ever person whom I meet (and in every public figure.)

    While the dominant symptom of sociopathy may be an absence of empathy, a close second is parasitism. This can be financial or emotional. Some sociopaths con "loved ones" out of money, others con them into allowing themselves to be emotionally jerked around because the sociopath enjoys creating emotions that he is incapable of feeling. He is curious to see these emotions play out in the same way that he was interested in workings of amphibian biology in high school science.

    A person who is emotionally secure is less likely to be susceptible to a sociopath's con than one who is emotionally needy. The sociopath targets the latter as a shark targets a wounded fish. An emotionally needy person who falls within his orbit condemn him/herself to a 24/7/365 future of psychic pain and suffering.

    Having had a self/soul annihilating relationship with a sociopath, I have the following advice:

    If you even SUSPECT that someone close to you is a sociopath, avoid him as you would someone with treatment-resistant tuberculosis. Move to a different city if possible. You will NOT HAVE A LIFE if you allow him in your presence.

    This may seem extreme. However, if you err and give the sociopath the "benefit of the doubt" you will never again be happy.

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  24. No offence to the Ladies, but all I see are Guys and how bad they've been, I don't take anything away but here's to the guys that may want to make sure the ladies aren't sociopaths. I met this beautiful women that I feel head over heels in Love with, not knowing or careing about her past. Only to find out that I was the
    12th guy she had married(I had been married once) shortly after we were married I lost my job so I took the roll of stay at home husband. Every morning I had a fresh cup of coffee by her bed, her bathwater was drawn, her clothes were Ironed and waiting for her, I made up her bed, made the lunch, breakfast, took her things to the car,took her daughter to school, cleaned housed, washed clothes, dishes, sweeped, mopped, did the yard work, took care of her daughter, helped her with school work, feed her, played with her, until the wife would come home, sometimes that would be real late. All I got was screams, curssing and fit throwing. this is a women who would led church services one moment and the next go in to a rageing fit. She owed everyone one, never paid her bills, always finding fault, never having any type of remorse. I had been single for over 20yrs and had never been around someone that one moment would be so sweet and the very next would go off over nothing. My grandmother died a lady that raised me and two weeks after her death my wife saw a pic of her on the cover of my phone and started screaming that she wished I would love her like I loved my grandmother, I needed to get over her because she was dead! I got a call from the bank saying we were $1.500 overdraft and when I got to checking in to it I found she had rented a room at a local motel and when I called the motel they remembered a man being with her. Of course she has a excuse. I could go on and on about the past two years of living with a sociopath, the life I have lived with her and trying to save my marriage has cost me dearly, I have lost my home, job, all the money and earthly pocessions that I had obtain, I lived n my truck and took baths out of a city park because I had no place to go and no money to buy things with and she don't care. My question is how do you get the damage they have done out of your system and go on? Is all women this mean and hurtful? I ask for your prayers and the prayers of your readers.

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    1. @Gman - It takes time. Sometimes, quite a bit of time. Be patient with yourself, and learn all you can about this mess so you don't repeat the error of falling for such a train wreck.

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  25. ""Why do some people get joy from trying to bother and ruin other peoples' lives?"

    Um, because we can. It's really that simple. "

    It's that simple, yes, but there's more to it: we're manipulators because we're born leaders, and leaders manipulate, but the nature of our society is such that there just aren't enough leadership jobs out there. As such, we're bored. An out of work carpenter will whittle wood, an out of work leader will whittle lives.

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    1. You are totally full of crap. You are superior to no one, I am a good moral person and have empathy for other people, I love and care about my fellow man. I have been dealing with a sociopath for the past year and a half. This one is trying her best to get my husband. Anything she can do to manipulate him against me. She lives to torment me and she has no conscious. She has lied, borrowed money, followed me, stalked me, run me down to try and whip my ass, called my phone hundreds of times, left terrible messages and anything else that you can imagine. I figured out that she was a sociopath by going to ask.com and asking this question: Why would a married woman constantly call or text another womans husband just to torment her, the answer popped up much to my suprise: SOCIOPATH. She has all ten character traits. I have no pity for Sociopaths, sorry, but she is SATAN and if you act like her, you are too. You need to go to the Dr. and get some medication. Leave us alone, we dont want you putting yourselves in our lives. Get the hell outa mine. Mind your own business and make yourself miserable instead of inflicting you bull shit on mankind. CASE CLOSED

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    2. "...but there's more to it: we're manipulators because we're born leaders, and leaders manipulate, but the nature of our society is such that there just aren't enough leadership jobs out there. "

      You are funny, but not a leader.

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    3. Born leaders, my ass. By definition, you sociopaths are SELFISH as hell. Real leaders aren't only concerned about themselves.

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    4. 'Born leaders'; please. Grandiose thinking much?

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    5. Adolph Hitler, Stalin and other world leaders were psychopaths/sociopaths. Some fail and others win in the end! The hardest thing is to stand up to them as they as are so cunning in destroying you. You often fail as people who are human don't think the way they do. We don't attack them as they are so charming and fain empathy etc. until we're caught in their trap of sadistic pleasure. I'm tryiong to escape now!

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  26. To Anon, above:

    Sociopaths are BAD 'leaders' (that's why they dont have 'jobs' as leaders!!!) and usually control freaks - a leader doesn't 'whittle' lives he/she empowers them. If you feel the need to mess with other's lives all it means is that there's something missing in your own. If the only way you can relieve your boredom and spend your energy is to 'whittle' someone else's life, then you are very sad indeed and the lowest possible lifeform. If you were a real leader you'd be putting your energy into helping others and into getting a leader's 'job'. Not that you'll care about any of this because you have no conscience and believe yourself to be above everyone else! And therein lies the issue - no-one is better than anyone else.

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  27. I came here to ask sociopaths, if any of you believes it is possible to have enough of a loving relationship with better days outweighing the not-so-great times? I love a sociopath with all my heart. His efforts to be everything he believes he is supposed to be are so guilelessly transparent - like watching a child who desperately wants to please though you know it is only to get what he wants at the moment. He is stereotypical. Lies. Cheats. Excellent manipulator. Travels often which seems to ease his stress of maintaining facades - he's worse when he stays weeks at home. Keeps my things from me if he thinks he's made me upset enough to go away. Incredibly charming. His smile and touch melt my soul without fail. He threatened to have me assassinated for saying I would let the air out of his tires if he tried to drive home during a blackout drinking binge. For awhile, he made my work life miserable because it amused him, although when I began to catch on I had a talk with co-workers who play along which keeps him happy on that particular front. He has said he will sue me for moving his car out of my storage unit after he changed the lock on it without notice after picking an argument with me. He has a vacant garage, so obviously he doesn't need anyone to store it for him. He seems to need to keep my things or make me keep his to maintain a connection between us. Intimacy with him is beyond anything I've ever dreamed of. So passionate, yet so gentle. After nearly a year of dealing with lies and rollercoaster ups and downs, the bottom line is I still love him. I don't know yet how to cope with the cheating, though I believe I understand it is not a shortcoming between us that takes him there. It definitely is not related to insecurities. He goes to great lengths to hide it, though I am convinced he won't stop. I don't see myself as a victim - yet - just someone who loves him as he is since he cannot be otherwise. I don't thrive well on conflict and need significant solitude to regroup after spending time with him, and sometimes when he's been away because I know what he's been up to. I don't believe I deserve abuse, but I understand he doesn't perceive himself as being emotionally abusive. I simply love the man he is when the sociopath inside lets him shine through and I can't imagine my life without him in it. Am I crazy for trying? Is there hope? Is the sociopathic tendency to become worse by sticking through thick and thin with him? He has developed a lot of work arounds. Will I make things worse for him by trying to cope? I would not make his life more difficult than it is. Is it best to try to be just friends? And is it possible to be a real friend in any way that a sociopath would recognize or appreciate long term?

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    1. As for the last two questions, I hope so.

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    2. I was diagnosed as a sociopath very young, my family had me under psychiatric evaluation at 16, and the diagnosis was pretty much sitting, waiting for me upon turning 18. what stood out most and prompted concern in everyone around me was definitely my romantic life. I'm not talking about your normal hormonal teen girl. I'd have multiple partners, all of whom would have no suspicion of another man, because I was so good at the facade. "pouring my heart and soul" into every single one. when really, it was just a matter of getting ALL my needs met. It's hard to relate to people as a sociopath, but it's not hard to get them to relate to (part of) you. so you get some pieces here, some elsewhere. I never feel bad about it. But that doesn't mean I've never felt frustrated with my afflictions because I lost someone that i cared for, or needed. I am most definitely capable of love, but it's different. It wasn't until I met someone that i genuinely respected (and didn't want to hurt) that I was able, at 23 years old, to have my first serious, and real relationship. and honestly, I stumble to tell him I love him, after 2 years at that. I've spat those words out to get what i want without flinching. but when you mean it, it's almost threatening. I feel powerless, which is the stuff that makes a sociopath reach for that itchy trigger. I do terrible things to him sometimes. But he knows who I am. We work on it. I can only imagine how hard it is to try to decipher through your sociopath lover's actions to find out if loves even there at the core. Chances are, if you're making them "fall out of character", or do things that are offensively desperate, you've gotten through the ice. comfort for you, panic for them. The most important thing to know is, if they've told you who they are, they've already put down weapons, but that doesn't mean they can put down their nature. They want to make it work. You just have to also. It's no different with any other relationship between "healthy" people. no one gives you a secret formula for that person. You can search the internet and find out how to predict and understand what a sociopath might do to you. But we're still humans, different from each other, and knowing someone has a personality disorder doesn't mean you know their personality. time, patience, love, as with anything....

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    3. I hope this isn't offensive and leads to a game. I am in love with a man and his son. The mother is a sociopath. She has endangered her son's long-term health and continually threatens us. We have gone to the police and DA. They said it isn't enough to do anything about. The courts say since she claims she is doing her best, she isn't responsible for forging doctor and legal documents, etc. How can we get others, like the court, to see through these games and charm to the unfeeling and dangerous person she is?

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    4. "The most important thing to know is, if they've told you who they are, they've already put down weapons, but that doesn't mean they can put down their nature. They want to make it work. You just have to also."

      You make me laugh. Let me rephrase what you really mean: The most important thing to know is I will never settle until I win and I have to make it work so you have to make it work too.

      A relationship will never work with a sociopath unless you are one too.

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    5. Get out as quickly as you can. Being connected to someone like that can NEVER be good for your overall health.

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    6. You can't believe anything a sociapath says, they only know one thing, get what I want at all costs.

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    7. You need to wake up and realize you are addicted to the excitement he brings your life with all of the ups and downs. Try stepping into your own interests and see what happens. Then the question will be, are you strong enough to withstand the opposition he will throw at you for daring to have a life outside of him [the center of his universe]?

      My guess is you have a long way to go to get out of denial, and the fact that he IS hurting you. Your "understanding" and "compassion" for him only enables him to continue in his ways. In the long run his ways will devastate you. These people are destroyers of the human soul/spirit.

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  28. The sociopath (a male) in our family has been harassing everyone (most particularily his wife) for over 35 years and no one would stand up to him. His wife has had a quiet/silent nervous breakdown over this and is now working away from him. Over the last couple of years he has been exposed for what he is and though some of his 'friends' are in denial, they know just 'what' he is. We have nothing to do with him at all and if he ever comes around here, the police will be all over him (which he fears). When it comes to any sociopath, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM FOREVER. THEY ARE UNABLE TO BE HELPED and are basically destined for perdition.

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  29. I have been talking to someone who said upfront he was a sociopath. He also said that he had met someone who could match him for intelliegence and didn't care what he thought of them and it is his only regret, walking away from that person before he could get hurt.
    I have read about sociopaths/psychopaths and I know what they do. My question is that why would he tell me he was a sociopath? He said that people leave when they find out that he is a sociopath. So if he was trying to 'control' me, then why would he say that with the likely probability that I would leave, what would be the point of that?
    He is a sociopath that has depression and has suicidal tendencies. He has been upfront with all of this information.

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    1. Because we're much more complex than just people who don't give a fuck about other people. I'm a sociopath, and there are people I like, to whom I wish I could share the real me, if only for the sake of candid conversation. But I can't, and so I have to lie to them.

      Him telling you he is a sociopath was a sign of respect and adoration (or as close as we can come). He took a massive risk by sharing that part of himself with you. I would only tell someone that I consider to be close to my equal. Since I don't have very many equals (any), I don't ever feel the need to share that part of myself.

      Mostly because sociopaths don't get off on honest emotional sharing. Especially not with lesser beings. The thought of sitting around and sharing my feeling with someone makes me chuckle.

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    2. Ha, more complex? Manipulation is your tool, and what better to manipulate someone than using a bit of truth? A sign of respect? Please, don't fool yourself. But, I can understand why you would tell that person this, I mean you are a sociopath right?

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    3. Classic sociopath. Just walk away. And I agree with Anonymous 2, assuming that comment was towards Anonymous 1 talking about respect and complexity.

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    4. "Mostly because sociopaths don't get off on honest emotional sharing. Especially not with lesser beings. The thought of sitting around and sharing my feeling with someone makes me chuckle."

      To the person who wrote this, you are right about sharing with lesser beings. I would never share my feelings with you either and the thought of you thinking of yourself as a higher being makes me chuckle because it is out of your abilities my friend.

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    5. The "honesty" is his bait, and you're biting.

      He has already told you the point of his telling you that he is a sociopath. He is looking for a challenge. He wants someone he can "respect" [because they are his "equal", i.e. a sociopath], and then he wants to set out to destroy/conquer/control that person.

      After all, this is in essence what he told you he "fell in love" with, right? And he is busted b/c he lost that person.

      My guess? If you accept the challenge, he will be exceptionally brutal mentally and emotionally if not also physically. I would run like hell, as fast as I could.

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  30. I am in love with a man and his son. The mother is a sociopath. She has endangered her son's long-term health and continually threatens us. We have gone to the police and DA. They said it isn't enough to do anything about. The courts say since she claims she is doing her best, she isn't responsible for forging doctor and legal documents, etc. How can we get others, like the court, to see through these games and charm to the unfeeling and dangerous person she is?

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    1. It is up to the man and the son to stop contacting her, not you or the court (at first anyways). Once they stop having contact with that woman and if she is a sociopath, she will try by all means to get that attention back from the man and son. By then, you might get something on her to have the courts convict something.

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  31. Sociopaths need nueurological surgury-therapy, councilling and understanding WILL NOT WORK. Our unbreakable natures are predatory-we are uncrackable, mores the pity-the closer we get to humans the more dangerous we become-as the failure to actually feel/the brains freak out at not knowing how to interprete the electrical stimulation in the cortex cause us to go all FIGHT or FLIGHT.We are masters of the trap-and also its slave. The best i can suggest is a facility for such types as myself-a prison or mental hospital is not suitable-our desruption is EMOTIONAL and not PHYSICAL.

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  32. I just for out of a relationship with a sociopath. He is married to another sociopath and they really had fun messing with my mind. I do believe that they are completely unaware of what they are. I'm toying with telling them that they are sociopaths. Will this just make them have a stronger desire to hurt others? Will it make them implode?

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  33. As a sociopath, I answer to no man! I am not accountable for my actions and whatever I want I will take regardless the cost.
    danefird@yahoo.com

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  34. I know a classic Sociopath at work. But his coworkers know what he is! We constantly undermine him, lie about his work, scratch his car, go through his desk and take things, even write and send letters to people in the company as if they are from him. We are not afraid of him and will get him fired. Before I came to work there he terrorized the staff for years. After he is fired, some of them are going to destroy his "home life" and next job. He should have left us alone!!

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    1. ...yes, i have found the sociopaths are easy to fool as well.

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    2. Just want to let you know that you will fail. He will do anything and you will not. He will find out what you are doing because liars and tricksters always suspect that others are the same way as they are which makes them hypervigilant. If you do what you are proposing then you are also a sociopath. They are not easy to fool and if it seems that way then they are playing you for serious retaliation. He will never leave you alone. He will sacrifice everything to defeat you. If you keep after him he will kill you in order to win. HE WILL NEVER STOP, HE IS A REVENGE MACHINE. This is what he does evey day. If you can compete with that then you are a sociopath.

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  35. The I.R.S. is keenly interested in Sociopaths as they cheat on taxes thinking "they can do anything". There was a study and 65% of them do cheat on taxes. So if you know a Sociopath, thrun them in to the I.R.S, there is a form online you can print and use. Odds are you will get them in trouble and then you can act dumb and say "why are you so sad looking today, whats wrong?".

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  36. One thing a sociopath can't do is control you. Just walk away forever without telling them why. They will not be sad as they have no emotions - but they will never know why you disappeared. It will haunt them till their dying day.

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  37. just put a big key scratch in their door. they will get the message

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    1. People where I work tried flattening the tires of a sociopath 4 days in a row. He offered a cash reward for information and got it. The flatteners were very very sorry.

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  38. Many Sociopaths are murdered because people hated them. Just ask any L.A.P.D. homicide Detective. They always ask people about the victim's personality, many times there are several people who hated the victim, then its discovered he/she had sociopathic tendencies. Thats the motive.

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    1. Many sociopaths murder people because they are annoying. Like squashing a bug.

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  39. just scratch the word "sociopath" across the loser's car hood. Once he has it fixed, do it again. Maybe he will get the message.

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    1. Yea, repeatedly defacing personal proper shows an awesome respect for moral values and clearly shows you NOT to be a sociopath yourself.

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  40. send their boss a nasty note signed by the sociopath. theboss will never believe someone else did it, works every time

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  41. actually if you send the "socio" a letter with something like this webpage, and state that you have identified them as a "socio" and that they are crazy, it will really irk them and make them angry, but they don't know who to blame. then they get more paranoid. Its fun to watch from a distance....

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    1. You would do wise to remember one thing about the lion whose cage you want to rattle. They eat humans.

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    2. they can't eat you if they have no idea who you are.

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    3. ...ugh let's leave out comparing a sociopath with the most regal king of beasts, the lion, there is nothing in common with a lion, nor any other animal for that matter, and a sociopath. Lions kill for food and defense of their pride and other kingly duties. the sociopath is 100% human, not a predator, only animals are predators and rightly so.

      The sociopath is more of a human parasite.

      Let's stop insulting lions and animal predators who are only predators for the sake of food.

      perhaps this commenter said it best:

      "Sociopaths are like bacteria in a petri dish. The feeding and conquering seems nice at first, but eventually they die in their own waste."

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    4. ...you know what they say "you are what you eat." Eat fear all day long and you become, yep FEAR. Sociopaths are one big great big ball of fear. And no match for their natural enemy, truth, confidence, spiritual awareness, and just those who come in this world with a natural protector type personality. I've watched a few sociopaths exposed and wither away, and it is usually one of their natural enemies that does it: the protector. The protector has similar traits but uses them all for the good of man and for truth's sake, keeps their goal to themselves, and plows the soc's hidden world. Not really so hard to do. And they do it because they just don't like seeing others bullied.
      A soc won't even be able to see them coming.

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  42. did i fall for a sociopath? i met him online 12 months ago, very fast and very heavy relationship, he filled every void in my life. He love bombed me, and showered me with personalised gifts. The lies started online (without me knowing obviously), but i caught him red handed in a few lies (which he denied and accused me of not trusting him), and then the other woman showed up, she waltzed in and waltzed out and that was then end of them. i believed it was over for them and a new beginning for us. but it wasnt. he was still seeing the other woman. but again, i took him back. since then, there has been no more 'catching him out'. i havent caught him in a lie or caught him cheating. he smashed his other phone, he allowed me to see his regualr phone for text messages etc...BUT, i dont trust him, i care very much for him. then, a week or so ago i asked him if he was seeing another woman..i had a feeling he was..and there was the stare..that hot, fixated stare that penetrates to the core, and i knew he was lying to me. Then, within 24 hours a anonymous note appeared in my mailbox saying "stay away from John, i dont like sharing". This was the final straw. he said he knew nothing about the note or who it was from and that he was seeing no one else. he loves me and wants me only. he was different from back then. he is not the same person. (blah blah). i told him we are over. he set out to prove who wrote the note. he is convinced it was his ex girlfriend (the other woman). i on the other hand dont really care who sent it - someone did - and i beleived the note and not him. So whether it was the ex, or a new girl it doesnt matter, i no longer beleive HIM. So i finished it. he said, we are not over. we are not finished yet. i asked him to not text, phone contact me. he has so far respected that. i was driving in town yesterday and saw him. we stopped. we spoke. he said he will come for me when he has sorted out all the mess he is in. I said, it is over. he needs to let us go. and we drove away. What has me puzzled i guess is that he never took anything from me (financially), and we did have a good time together. sex wasnt great, but it was enjoyable. Writing this, i see he definatley has aspects of a sociopath, he has some friends, but not alot (i did meet them), i never met his parents or his children (custody dispute). he never talked about his past or his past girlfriends or marriage. He is stable in his job (self employed). He is not overly attractive but is charismatic. I met his ex girlfriend and she proclaims he is a sociopath and he spent alot of her money. I miss him, which is weird, but i can see through him now...please remind me that he is BAD for me!!

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  43. For 21 years I have been living with a man who I assumed was selfish and abbusive. He acts as if he is the only human being with sense. Everyone else is stupid and beneath him. Including me. I never understood him. He does things to me and acts like he didn't do anything wrong because after all he is always right. He would beat me an wanna have sex. And he would get mad that I wasn't into it. He would always do thing and act like he did nothing. He once told me that he lied but he isn't a liar. He cheated but he isn't a cheater. But I was.. Everything he has done to me is deleted from his memory. An yet anything I've done to him he refuses to let go. He is physically, emotionally,spiritually and mentally abusive to me. But he sees no wrong in it. Its all my fault. Never his. Calculates and keeps track of everthing he buys for me. But is always nonshalaunt about all of the things I've done for him. Which by the way we far more. I always say its a one sided relationship. I am at my wits end and have contemplated suicide a few times thinking that all of this was my fault. But I'm startimg to realize its not me. Not me at all...

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  44. get person to hack their email accounts and delete all their amil.

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  45. buy the sociopth the book, "the sociopath next door", gift wrap it and it will let him know your onto him. get a magazine like " mugshots" or "slammer" and mail the criminals in it nasty letters from you, signed as if the sociopath mailed them,.

    or send letter to the parole board, on murders, to piss off those murders, in thr sociopaths name

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    1. You are clearly a coward. Why dont you confront the sociopath directly. Maybe physically? He has been in hundreds of fights...he enjoys hurting people. Many of you are passive aggressive which is worse because you are a coward. You cant compete in a revenge match with someone who has no conscience. Sociopaths dont care if you are "onto him" because you are nothing.

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    2. Why do you care so much about what someone does back to someone? And if he doesn't care what he does to them, maybe the person just isn't a dumb ass, rather than not cowardly. And really, last time I checked, people would have way more of a problem with people hurting people (or them) rather than someone doing a sneak prank back on them.

      A lot of people don't do these things because they're scared anyway. Loosen up. You seem to have care o.O

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  46. I am warning everyone. Stay away from us. Stay off the sociopaths radar. I dont care about anything. The slightest thing you do to set me off will result in retaliation. I have put entire companies out of business because I didnt like the way someone talked to someone else that I dont even care about. It is a no win situation. You can document my unprofessional behaviors and I can hit you in the head with a hammer and feel nothing . I know how pathetic I am and I just dont care. I wish I could be normal but it is impossible. I am being completely honest for once. I am poison. I enjoy destroying people. Dont try to stop me, dont try to change me dont try to beat me. It is just not worth it. Stay away from me and save yourself the disaster that dealing with me will cause. If you are my boss quit your job, if you are my girlfriend leave me if you are my neighbor move. I will not ever stop and I will destroy myself in order to destroy you. I am not self defeating I just dont care.

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    1. ummmmmmm...
      can you at least wear a secret sticker or something if you're going to be like that? no point in warning us if we can't see you.

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    2. Your kind are just soulless meat to me. If you don't care then you shouldn't object to the ultimate outcome of this war. Even if you do, it's irrelevant.

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    3. A sane person just might get angry and go overboard - go postal. Then you could be killed. All because you won't behave according to accepted social rules? Please grow up and stop making people's lives miserable. or you may be very sorry!

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    4. Sounds like you are doomed! Literally! Society I guess has some pity for your kind or maybe secretly glad they don't have to feel like you do or ever know what you want most you can never had. Sadness or just reality we are divided. You just happened to be the one that picked the short straw. If you could really feel something I would assume you would feel hopelessness. I am not saying a Sociopath can or should feel this. Not ever going to happen. I am looking at normal people, we feel empathy and wouldn't for nothing ever wish or want to be you no matter what. You will nevr know admiration, respect, joy, happiness, sadness. Your are doomed with no choice of your own to live a miserable and lonely life with no hope ever of it ever getting better. Most likely you will never be missed when you're gone. That is sad but it is your lot.

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  47. The (Christian) Bible described those that will be in heaven. They are the peacemakers, meek, mild, slow to anger.

    Sociopaths have many traits of God's advesaries, and will NOT go to heaven. God has the power to change them if they want help, but if they refuse......there will not be 1 sociopath in heaven EVER. Read the bible - it clearly states it.

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  49. My 18 year old son is a suspected sociopath with a genius level IQ. I've taken him to therapists. He was misdiagnosed, in part because the symptoms were confusing and then morphed. He is now at college. He does not see anything wrong with himself but will go to a therapist simply to get me to release some of his money. I impounded his funds due to his recent behavior towards me and the rest of the family.

    How do I handle him? Is therapy worthless? Is there hope at 18? The annoying behavior is lifelong, but the sociopathic lying is recent. He was not abused, but the minds on both paternal and maternal sides are highly unusual.

    Mom

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    1. Do you want to handle him him or help him?

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    2. Stop trying to figure on how to help our son out, and get in my fucking bed. He's 18, we don't have to help him anymore.

      Dad

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    3. Don't give him money.

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  50. Revenge is best served anonomously. Revenge also has a good way of cheering the victims up - when they get revenge on a bad person. just sit back for years and run pranks on the jerk thsts bothered you. I am still doing stuff to my nasty boss 5 years on and he has no idea its me - as he does have so many enemies. just complicate their lives and order lots of stuff like life insurance quotes, sweepstakes, sign them up for stupid petitions online or if they work for a publically traded company, post comments on Yahoo finance boards under the company ticker symbol, complain under his name or post false info about earnings reports, that will get them in hot water. nobody will belive their claim that they didn't do it. run a criminal records check, if they have a record mail it to all their neighbors and to their boss,show no mercy ever (unless they change)

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  52. there will be no sociopaths in heaven. the beatitudes (stated by jesus/god) clearly indicates this so Mr.sociopath, enjoy your short time on earth, its the best your ever gonna git, if God has his way (and God will) what do you say to that Mr Bully????

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    1. I learned along time ago for every bully there is a meaner SOB down the road they haven't met yet. OH! they will eventually come up on that person. Could be another Sociopath, a victim that says no more, the devil himself. It is not if it is when they will meet up! It's just a fact. I wonder what is going through their mind when they come face to face with the meaner SOB and realize that cannot win and this is it. HMMMMM

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  53. I agree. Read the Bible. Read that it will be a wonderful place, there will be no trouble, mean people, conflicts, manipulation, lying there. It will be a place that has NO sociopaths - they will all be together someplace else. Just think how wonderful it will be to never meet another manipulative or lying being! I am not saying Sociopaths will go to "hell", but they are not allowed to be in the same place God is....they will be seperated from all the good and kind beings, and will probably regret how they treated us,since they will never see us again in all eternity. Remember what Churchill said " Hitler and the Devil are sociopaths"

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  54. Goody! Someday all the troublemakers will be stuck in a place filled with losers, ripping each other off and causing endless trouble for each other. I fitting punishment for those that could be sweet and kind, but instead choose to inflict pain on the rest of us. Those that have already died are suffering now! Well deserved and I am SOOOOOO happy!

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  55. God can change a bad person to a good person - if that person allows it. If a sociopath does not allow that change. then THEY have rejected God. So God will honor their wish and remain seperated from them for all eternity (what people call hell). Only people who choose hell are there!

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    1. My thoughts on the afterlife are different. I believe there are many levels in heaven and there is a place called shadowland where the evil reside until they feel the pain of their victims and have a change of heart. They may remain there forever. I think the Hindu's believe in this, also.

      Also, only at the top level do people get to be with God. There is work to be done on every soul before reaching that point. Along with future spiritual work - heaven is a wonderful place......

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  56. What you believe is not scriptural. Levels? Like corporate levels? Good and bad are absolutes, there are no shades or levels. Just like your either dead or alive. You can't be both. Only a group of sociopaths would have nailed Jesus (and many others) to the cross. Really think they will ever feel the victims pain and change? Nah.....in heaven there will be no evil.

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  57. I'm an extremely compassionate, empathetic, and kind-hearted woman and I've always treated my partners like gold. I have a high tolerance for pain, growing up in an alcoholic/abusive family environment. I can take a lot of s**t from people, sometimes years of it but if I am violated and betrayed beyond belief, I can be the most vicious woman you've ever met. There have two men who have seen this side of me in my 47 years. My ex husband and my recent ex boyfriend. Ex husband had a one night stand with the married couple across the hall and went down on the guy. Brought out a side in me that I knew never existed. A mean and vicious side of me trying to hurt him as much as he had hurt me. I said horrible things to him for such a long time. This time around I'm dealing with a sociopath. Completely different story. A 100% pathological liar with a severe sexual addiction. I found his email account and he had over 6500 emails in there. Tons of dating and adult website profiles. I counted over 60 women that he was talking to. Online chatting, emails, instant messages. Pictures of him with women and nasty pictures being sent to him by women. Telling most of these women that he was in love with them. They were all absolutely enchanted with him. Was still talking to and seeing his ex girlfriend. Seeing emails of how much they missed each other and how much they loved each other. I was so devastated that I didn't eat for almost a month. Piece of bread a day sometimes. Went 5 days without eating.

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  58. Continued from previous posting....... I loved this man more than I'd ever loved anyone. This is THE most painful experience I've ever had with a man.I sent emails out to a lot of the women. Got a couple of responses and got verbal confirmation. Disgusting emails from men. Videos from men. Didn't know he was bisexual. Two male lovers. Craigslist ads. Still grasping the fact that he is a sociopath. Best liar I've ever met. I've been incapacitated. I broke it off before I found all of this out about him, and every email I read, I forwarded to him. He denied and denied no matter how much proof I had. Didn't matter. He has wanted me back since I broke if off at the end of Aug. I told him that he had a chance but......these were my conditions. See a psychiatrist, see a counselor, go to SA meetings every day. I wanted proof of it also. Get a sponsor. Couples counseling, quitting his job in ND in the oilfields (no more long distance relationship. He had to live and work here in Utah) and.... tell his kids that I am not the monster he made me out to be. Then I told him he had a lot to think about. I knew after the first day he didn't want to do any of it. He never brought it up again so I told him that it was impossible and that he would never have me back again. When he realized that it was futile his whole tune changed and suddenly there was no motivation to help me after I had a hysterectomy. He booked a vacation for a week and took all of his kids and their spouses. I was devastated. He promised to help me financially til I get back on my feet and pay the debt he owes me back. I have ammo on this man which has put me in a unique position. His truck is in my name because his credit is so horrible and I can take it away whenever I want if he doesn't help me. Being a surpervisor, he is required to have his own truck and it has to be less than 5 years old. He needs that truck for work or he doesn't have a job. I can take it back whenever I want and unless he has a new GF with good credit, doubtfully as every woman he attracts are skanky. I was the only classy and intelligent woman he's ever been with. He knows he will never find another woman like me again. I don't say this out of ego but i know the kind of woman I am and i have integrity, I'm trustworthy and faithful and I treated him like gold. I wasn't willing to sleep with another man in front of him like everyone else was. I have legal recourse as he does owes me so much money. "Stress and duress" due to the fact he knew I'd had a suicide attempt 8 months before i met him; i have severe ptsd due to childhood sexual trauma. He illegally spied on me with gps, spy software on my phone and software on my computer to catch me cheating. Sleeping with so many people and putting me at risk for HIV and by law he could be convicted of involuntary manslaughter if I have it or if I were to ever make another suicide attempt due to his actions of annialating every part of my life. He purposefully and willfully exposed me to STD's of all kinds for two years with no regard for my health or my life. If nothing else works, and I don't want to do this but I will threaten him with it....continued

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  59. I will send every last one of those filthy emails to all of his adult kids who have treated me like shit since before we broke up after I kicked out his IV drug user son out of our house. One of whom loaded the spy software on my computer and buried it so it couldn't be seen. The other who told me that if my uteran tumor was cancerous, I brought it on myself and I deserve to die. He will do anything not to let that happen. His secret life outed? Being bisexual. I can even call the FBi on him and report that I believe he may be involved in the illegal sale and transportation of illegal firearms. He's a zealot, paranoid antigovernment freak who's convinced of a complete government takeover and police state. I've seen friends of his who have guns modified to fully automatic weapons capable of firing a couple of hundred rounds and even grenade launchers. They may not be illegal, but suspicious. He sends on the verge of threatening emails to the president constantly. Continued....

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  60. I have called him a bone smuggler, a Nellie homosexual pu**y pretending to be an alpha male, most likely a crossdresser. I told him I believe he's probably a sexual predator of some kind, exposing himself, pedofile or rapist. I've told him I think he fakes being smart when he's really dumb. He's just a good immitator and repeats what he hears. Jack of all trades, master at none. I told him I hate his long thinning hair and his do-rags and how stupid they look and that I hate how he dresses. I have compared him to my ex that he was always so jealous of. Insanely jealous of. I said, "yes, you're right, he did buy me two beautiful homes and you'll never be able to buy anyone a home because you're such a loser. I told him I was so unattracted to him when i first met him in person I wanted to run. I told him that the first time he looked at me creeped me out so bad, he looked like a serial killer. The ONLY reason I continued to date him was because I thought he had a fantastic personality but I know that's fake. Continued......

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  61. I told him i didn't like being around their kids because theyre all f**ked up narcissists who cant survive financially on their own without daddy and that his daughter is the biggest and whinyest victim I've ever met. I told him they were all boring and that's why I didn't want to be around them much. No personalities at all and no fun. I told him that I don't think he cares if his son dies from drugs. He isn't willing to do anything to stop being an enabler and that I dont think he'd shed a real tear if any of his kids died. I told him I think he's a loser because his credit is abyssmal I told him he never gave me an org***m once from oral s*x the whole time we were together. I told I know he loves giving h**d and getting it in the a**. I dont give a sh*t if someone is bi or gay but when they've lead on that they aren't, different story. I have literally shredded this man to pieces with everything I have and have gone for the jugular. I've told him I was interested in dating one of his friends, which I'm not. I also told him that every single time I have a date, I will let him know about it. Who it is and how the date went. I don't sleep around and he knows that. He doesn't need to know about the sex. The dating is enough to make him crazy with jealousy. I know not all of these things get to a sociopath but I went after his underbelly, his deepest insecurities and fears, his horrible parenting, his kids, his lack of real intelligence, his jealousies, his looks, comparing him to my ex fiance (a successful and intelligent college graduate) a scientist in pharmaceutical research. I let him know that a good part of his adult life, I've made more money than he has. You never know what you're capable of when someone absolutely devastates your entire life. Last but not least, I've reminded him over and over that I am the only woman who has ever dumped him. He was the one that got dumped.

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  62. I've never been hurt by anyone as much as I have been hurt by him and I said all these things thinking that it would make me feel better if I could hurt him as much as he's hurt me. It's not possible for one and it was making me exausted so I cut off all communication and it is only being done through my best friend. Let me tell you, probably the only way to get to a sociopath, is to reject them. They can't stand it. Tears them up. I'm in the process of writing up a plan on how to stay strong and stay away from him when he tries wearing me down again.....and he will. I know my story is vicious but when you text your bf that you have cancer and he doesn't call, it makes it so you don't care what you say. I have a plan to get strong. I will get strong and keep him out of my life forever. He will know that he has been rejected....forever.

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  63. Continued.....One more thing, i told him that his plans for retirement are a joke. He has not saved one dime and he will end up living on social security and that if I ever saw him begging in the street, I would spit in his face. I told him that one day, he is going to be really old and wrinkley, bedridden and wearing diapers and then how is he going to get on his computer, work his magic with women and get together for twisted and dimented sex then?......

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  64. None of the world's religions would allow a psyciopath into whats called heaven.

    Maybe they should get a clue as to their fates!

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    1. I cana't tell you the number of times I have said that to my sociopath. My posting is right before yours. He was raised LDS and has said repeatedly that he believes in the gospel and at one point, was trying to go to the temple with his ex wife. I told him that if he doesn't get help for his sexual addiction and lying, he will end up in hell because he's so far away from God and so close to Satan now. (The adversary) as mormons like to call him. I told him I know he has demons around him at all times working on him and they are manipulating him into more sick sexual fantasies and he going downhill fast. His addiction will be the cause of his demise in the not so distant future. I've told him that he's so close to satan that when he looks in the mirror, that's who he is seeing and I know that's why sometimes, I couldn't look at him. The look in his eyes was like looking at pure evil. He has become a part of him. I'm not a religious person but I just feel this stuff on the deepest level in my soul. He will go down and it will be hard

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  65. My Dad was a sociopath. When he died of old age, I took his prize coin collection out. Each day I would take one coin, and throw it on a busy sidewalk and let some stranger find it. It was fun, all given away for free. And it took him so long to find each coin. I didnt need the coins nor want the money they were worth. all his coins, thrown on the ground.

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  66. The source of cruelty in mankind is the devil. Sociopaths are his servants. They are also enemies of God, the creator of the universe.

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  67. I heard of someone who filed a false IRS tax return "on behalf" of a sociopath. Of course it was such a blatantly cheating return that Sociopath got audited. Of course he said "I didnt do it", but the IRS IS MEANER THAN ANY SOCIOPATH. What a funny stunt! Getting even is heathly in some cases...

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  68. Remember, nobody can tell what you do in secret. Take your revenge on these people buy never talk about it. If they confront you, then deny and then do something far more extreme to them. they will then rule you out, thinking you would never take revenge agsin after they confronted you. they will think someone else did it. works everytime for me. and I have made sociopaths suffer greatly

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  69. Get a few of them during the big storm today. Nobody in NYC is gonna know what you did.....

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  70. ..... Why do I continue to think about him after all that he has done to hurt me? I've blocked him in all ways to contact me but I continue to obsess about him. I miss him. That is sick that I do :-( I know I can never go back. Do others feel this way?

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  71. I am sorry that must feel horrible. Dont beat youreself up about trusting that prick hes a master manipulater and a really good liar. The best thing you can do is remove anything that reminds you of him and never talk to him again. and keep looking for the right person.

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  72. If you just STOP communicating to "user", it will drive them nuts and be a great punishment. They will go over 100 things that might have caused the breakdown in communications, but never know the facts. It will haunt them that you are not available to do their "bidding". Theyhave lost a "servant" and its going to be hard to find a replacement. Just don't talk to them, let them suffer. People have been "dumping" bad friends for 10,000 years.....its nothing new. DUMP THEM

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  73. I setup a program that would forward all the sociopath's emails to the CEO of the company. The good, bad, ugly, mean and rude ones. Yes the CEO sat back ans saw them all. Now the sociopath's career is stunted at best. NEVER mess with a NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR.

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      CEOs are interested in the bottom line. They don't want to be bothered with the details, nor are most of them qualified to do so.

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  74. In Vietnam troops used to wait until a big firefight, then as it was winding down, shot the sociopath in their squad. Just get behind his position and shoot. Nobody ever did autopsy on US troops to see if they were killed with american rounds. They didn't have the time and didn't want to know. Many a sociopath never walked on US land again! Thank the troops for that BIG favor!

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  75. Sociopaths are alone, afradi, know there is alot wrong with them, they are hated, abandonded, gossiped about and just generally not wanted. They need to change if they want an ordinary life.

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  76. In short, if your a sociopath then your a freak that everyone hates. I would guess its a life not worth living. And on the final judgement day you will stand before the judge and do what - try to say you were normal? LOL!!!

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  77. I just did the "IRS" whistleblower trick on my "socio". He got an audit letter, is guilty as hell and is flipping out. Its so hard for me to keep from almost laughing out loud, watching him squirm. There is gonna be a big IRS penalty on his 10+ years of fabricating deductions from thin air! Tee Hee!

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  78. Sounds like the best way to deal with them is to get revenge and sit back and laugh. I know they won't change. They don't care about anyone either. So even though it seems cruel, I guess they earn a negative reaction from people. They must be miserable folk (I walked out on all the sociopaths in my life decades ago). They are really just weak people who are self-centered.

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  79. I called a sociopaths boss. Yes the one the sociopath always complains loudly about. I just said "Mike says your a worthless loser Boss, and you know I am telling you the truth".

    Of course the Boss believed it (people believe all negative things) and gave Mike an horrible time for the rest of his career AT&T. Loved it!

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  80. They are easy to spot and ignore. if you ignore, you never get trapped. just avoid them.

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  81. These idiots aren't just sinning against their victims. They are also sinning against God, the victim's creator. The idiots are all scheduled for a judgement day, and their free will choice of Godless living is going to get them a death sentence. Just becuase their judgement is nit immediate, doesn't mean they will go unpunished.

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  82. Sociopaths are deviants. they are to be pityed but ignored. they can't do anything if you refuse to be their friends. read the book,the sociopath next door. they willnever be happy or normal.but its not our jobs to change them.

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  83. Most all people consider Sociopaths to be LOSERS! They may intimidate us, but deep inside we don't respect them and consider them to be LOSERS!

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  84. Its safe to say that when sociopathic people die, peoples are happy. I did a jig whenmine passed

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  85. They aren't wolves in sheep's clothing. They are the smartest DUMB peopleI know.

    But they do fall into the classification of DUMB.

    I would rather be a dumb SMART person.

    They ruin themselves

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  86. God can change anyone. The Bible is filled with examples of those that changed from Pilot to Saul. If a Sociopath rejects God's wish for change, he has sentenced himself to Hell (seperation from God). So change or suffer the longest penal sentence ever - eternity. you have been warned

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  87. Sociopaths are always Autistic. The degree varies. But they are. They are flawed in several ways - yet in their opinion- they think they are "great". That explains why they can't get along with others - they don't know their place. It also leads to a high suicide rate amoung Sociopathic patients. Pity them, they have never had a happy day in their whole life.

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  88. I bet the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary school was a Sociopath. A young one, but a Sociopat for sure. I for one am gald he isnot around to hurt people for years to come.

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  89. Sociopath's are kinda a freak of nature. You can spot em by their attitude. They were the babies that always threw tantrums. Its a mental defect of nature...

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  90. Sociopaths are non-social missfits. I feel sorry for them. Nobody wants to be around them, usually they die alone and nobody attends the funeral.

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  91. After 22 years of an endless cycle of abuse to everyone in my family, I just found out that my mother is a sociopath and so is my 17 year old brother. She supports his sociopathic behavior and teaches him how to be a better one. IDK what to do about this. I hate knowing that my mom and brother are sick and there is no cure... it's very depressing. Any advice??

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    2. Ok Tii. Let's take God out of the equation because honestly we all have different religious values. I know how you feel. I just found out that my husband of 16 years is a sociopath. I didn't want to believe it at first because most of us who are unfamiliar with them associate sociopaths with serial killers and such, but as I read more and more about what one is I found I couldn't leave my head in the sand anymore. Are yours even pretending to care about you? Are they saying you are different than their pawns? I will admit I have yet to legally divorce my husband. I was 16 when we were married so besides my parents he is all I have known. He is still living here as more of roommate because he is trying to get disability for a neck ingury. Even know he refuses to believe it is over. I'll get to my point. I can't tell u for sure what if anything will help. I know I am scared to death for my kids. Especially the oldest who has suffered along with me. The fights the manipulation. I am watching her closely. Trying to continue to reach her about love and compassion without making her easy prey like I was, but I'm afraid she is like her father. She is 15. I will never give up on my own child, but I don't know the relationship between u and ur brother. My advice if u have a "good" relationship help him and keep him away from ur mom's influence as much as possible, but still keep him at arms length. Try not to leave yourself open for manipulation. Don't blame urself if u fail. Honestly u want to believe deep down there is a good person in there somewhere. Nobody could be that (for lack of a better word) evil. But they are. My husband, I gave him last chance after last chance. He'd get on his hands and knees and beg and cry and slobber. This was now his 5th last chance and I found some shocking emails. Very hurtful stuff that I thought even he wasn't capable of. I really did believe that no matter how much he lied and manipulated, and told half truths, that when it came to what heart he had it did belong to me. No matter what. That didn't include meaningless sex. I was wrong. So that weekend which was just last weekend I slit my wrists. Not because I sat and had a pity party. We were fighting and he said you're always saying u wanna kill yourself whaa whaa here do it then. And he threw a brand new razor blade at me. So I did. Obviously didn't succeed because I'm writing this. He made me let him bandage it or he'd call 911 then I'D be the one put in the nuthouse. If it wasn't ur brother i'd say don't end up like me. There is no hope and run fast and hard. All u can do is just try and get him into counseling and MAKE him go. A LOT. The rest is up to him and IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT if he doesn't change. Very very very few do. I am sorry for your situation and wish u luck.

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  92. They are NOT sick. There is a cure. Namely God, their creator who can change them if they allow. But like my brother, they have decided to turn their back on God, and make themselves the "God" of their lives. Its a chosen sin. Don't you think God could change them if they asked God for help. They have turned their backs on you and God. My brother did the same thing. After they die, you are left with a strange feeling of how they dealt with their face-to-face meeting with God. They are not your responsibility. They have a responsibility to you - for good treatment and kindness toward you.

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  93. Sociopaths are the smartest "dumb people" I have ever met.

    Thats different than being a "dumbest" smart person.

    They are not to be respected or helped in any way.

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  94. Yes they are dumb aren't they. Its easier to ctch a fly with honey.........they try to use their tongues! Ha!

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  95. I had years of endless "abuse" from a family member. Then I told him all the extended members of the family hated him (not true). So he treated them so bad in return that all the extended family members DID eventually hate him and he was disowned. Now I don't have to worry about him and live a peaceful and stress free life!

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  96. The sociopath in my life had a medical problem while driving, went off a residential road into a stone subdivision sign at the corner. He was killed. As people spoke about him later, its wa clear that they were jubilant that he was dead. At first they tried to act respectful, then they were just beaming. They were thinking of the happier days ahead without him. Thrilled is an understatement.

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  97. No doubt about it, people will find a way to strike back at a Sociopathic person. When I was a stockbroker in the 1979 period, a nasty sociopath would call in sell orders when his stocks were dropping on bad news. We would delay placing the orders (it was done by hand) and he always lost even more money due to our delays. We would rush orders of people we liked. Its was just human nature. Back then you had to call in the orders, the wait for the stockborker to call you back with a confirmation your order was processed. People will punish those they do not like.

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  98. Hitler was a sociopath. Notice I said "was".Now he is a crying baby tortured by the ultimate socipath - the devil. Good riddence too

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  99. many of them kill themselves asthey realize something is wrong with themselves, but they have no clue how to fix the defect. they live a pitiful life of making enemies....

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  100. well once they die - the world is a better place, thats for sure.

    They will be soon forgotten forever, people only remember those they love.

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  101. Adolf Hitler was a Sociopath. All others share his traits to some degree. Odd that Hitler's traits live on - in people that he would exterminate or wage war on if he were still alive. Remember: for every commercisl airline tragedy/crash, at least 1 sociopath is killed. Planes are not filled with saints you know - 1 of 10 people is a closet sociopath..... I try to remember that when I hear of a crash. Its not all bad news.....

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  102. I love to mess with Sociopaths and narccicists. Have read so many books on them I have got em figuredout. Know their weak points, make them suffer. they are actually weaker than most people, but don't want to show it.

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  103. psycopaths are much more dangerous. Soiciopathic people are pretty harmless in comparison.

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  104. In 'Nam we used to "frac" sociopaths. We didn't need a troublemaker who was also selfish to jeapordize the squad. Our own safety was at risk and we needed people we could count on. So you just wait till night and roll a grenade into the sociopath's tent. Nobody would ask any questions

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  105. I'm not sure leaving sociopath/psychopath people out and start a new life by moving out to new town or company is really an option. I left this company which i came across people i identify as sociopath/psychopath 2 years back and now they still harass and threaten me. Just 2 days ago, they talk in station how they tell their friends to tell their boss not to hired me and when i get a new job, they come in figure out some hidden tricks and mess my new work until i quited my company. to be exact, that is the 4th company in a row they did that to me . leaving town or moving out of country is not an option because i have my entire family stay in this place. they even won't hesitate to drop by in front of my house terrorising me when they knew no one else even my family are aware about this. And this is the group of sociopath who i see that they will one day threaten my country ministers just to do their bidding. so basically a lot of us will die without knowing that this group of sociopath that murder us whether emotionally, spiritually and even real death. i quitted that company 2 years already but they still decide come to my neighbourhood ,manipulate everyone and destroy my life. so why should i leave them to had their life when they already had destroy mine repeatedly?

    my life is already very tough itself now and i had a lot to catch up and i definitely do not need sociopath to cause further grief in my life. and those who said "if you can't win them , join them" had no idea what will really happen to them and their loved ones for doing that.

    i practically had no other option other than fighting them back till my last breath. And also , your life will be a suffering life hell( with the possibility of your loved one death simply because you know them) as long as you are working with them because that is the only game they enjoy .

    everyone wanted to have good subordinates that will not manipulate or harm them , but does these sociopath had ever think that we also do not want any bad person like them because we also want to live a good and peaceful life whole life? Instead we have to risk our life simply because they got bored so they go break our family apart with death?

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  106. thanks to this post, i guess i can see a little bit that sociopath is merely human beings like the rest of us. but i for one will never opt to work with sociopath again after everything i went through back then. perhaps not all sociopath are as evil as those i met (or far worser than them) . and i'm not sure leaving them is also possible as they will suggest ideas to others which may benefit themself but at the expenses of our futures and life. pretty much like how human will cut all the trees in this earth for profits and the animals are left rotten die without food and shelter. and the rest of us happen to be this group of animals who lost life and home .

    I guess when one decide to fight sociopath, one will have to prepare that one may lose everything including one own life and one loved one. but i am being push to the corner where i will still die manipulate by sociopath. I just want to live my life as how i want to live and die , not living or die because other command you to do that. These group of people i dealing with seem to trying to take away my freedom life from me.

    i'm tired of living a life dictate by others. though i think i don't mind if they kill me now than trying to dictate my life. They don't even mind to kidnap your family to threaten you so you don't work in xx company. luckily, nothing happen to my family otherwise i will be in berserk mode (so basically it is just some kind of verbal threaten).

    I guess its just a matter of time that i may turn into the next sociopath/psychopath because of what they continously do to me. it's my religion and mantra that keeping me sane now. and those people i know who associate with them no longer can genuinely laugh like how they used to be.including myself .So i have lots of grudges on them (many of my broken emotions , money and so on still not yet fully heal and repair ) .

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  107. and no matter how ineffective my fight back will be , i'll stick one way or the other way kick their ass. because they think they can continue trample other people life as they like.

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  108. after i reading this post , i guess not all sociopath are that bad . however i for one are wounded too deep to be able to give another chance ever again.

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  109. btw, the sociopath people and those that follow their command that harass me had one common characteristics. they try avoid seeing buddha image or "Om Mani Padme Hum" mantra. even in public places, they actually will rather turn their head to awkward position.

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  110. I worked with a sociopath for a few years. I left the company and even 5 years later he called and laughed when my sister dies and he read the obit. He didn't give his name but I recognized his voice instantly when he asked for me. Payback: I now send a letter from "him" to every gang member booked in an L.A. area jail. Its all public info, their names, address, the crime. I send a letter in his name, telling the suspect what a low life they are - and of course use his return address! Wonder what will happen someday????

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  111. If your involved with a sociopath the ONLY way to fix your problem is to walk away and never contact them. If you can't do that then you "deserve" to have them in your life. walking away also punishes them

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  112. Show no mercy (ever) to a socio. They don't expect it, and will not appreciate it.

    Be meaner than he## to them all the time.....

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  113. the only good sociopath is a dead one...

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  115. the boston marathon bombers were sociopaths. no other personality type becomes a terrorist when frustrated. its an anger response to the whole world around them - when the world doesn't revolve around them as they want.

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  119. My child's father is a sociopath. He's pretty much your "standard" sociopath. Lies compulsively and excessively, repetitious and cyclical self-destructive behavior, shows zero initiative for success (but believes whole-heartedly in a grandiose future for himself), uses the pity and guilt of others to manipulate them into getting what he wants. HOWEVER, I don't hate him. And why should I? Our daughter is still very young and (so far) they have a very good relationship. He sees her every week or so, consistently. He doesn't help me financially, but that has sort of become a non-issue. I care far more about my sanity and my child's stability than I do about "fairness". Fighting about money is pretty useless. Sociopaths are not evil. To be evil, you have to want to cause harm to another person. You may argue, "A sociopath does often want to inflict harm." While that may be true, they really have no true concept of what it feels like to be hurt by someone. They don't truly understand despair, shame, guilt. They're almost just like an audience to humanity; they can observe our emotions, they can observe how they effect us. They can clearly see that we do not like to be sad. We do not like to feel guilty. So they use that as a weapon.

    I agree, in part, with the concepts that sociopathic thinking is somewhere between being animalistic (primal) and being childlike (selfish). But I think directly comparing a sociopath to an animal, and to a child is pretty petty. I feel like most of the people making these comparisons are trying to shame sociopaths into being "normal" by appealing to their sense of pride (which we are only assuming they have because we are applying our concept that pride and feelings of superiority go hand in hand.) Unfortunately, this is more or less an exercise in futility as sociopaths don't feel shame in the traditional sense of the word, if at all. Also, I am not even sure that sociopaths feel pride. I think the concept of thinking like a sociopath is so foreign to us that we can't really comprehend the process.

    But what I do know is this: my child's father uses my pity to get me to put up the white flag, and uses my despair to back me into a corner. Obviously, either of those results aren't favorable to me. So, in my efforts to create a stable-ish relationship between my child, her father, and myself, I have learned how to avoid the chaos.

    When dealing with him, I have removed every emotion but joy from my repertoire. As I said, sadness is pretty useless. Sadness is more or less a hilarious display to him, even when he feigns shame (to make me feel pity). Plus I think it just annoys him because he thinks sadness is just a way humans extract guilt or pity from each other, and of course, he doesn't feel guilt. Anger is equally as useless when dealing with a sociopath, because I think they enjoy fighting somewhat. Maybe it's a sociopath's way for an emotional release? I'm not sure. I have also tried being completely void of emotion when dealing with him- and this does work to an extent, but it seems to irritate him. Maybe he wants to feel like I'm trying to stimulate him. So, I use joy, and it has been pretty effective. "Oh, you bought a new car ?"-(instead of paying child support?)-"Good for you, that's awesome!"

    But, of course, this isn't full-proof. Just my 2 cents. And shame on all of you "normal" people who are going out of your way to hurt a person with aspd... They were born that way. If you feel like you are so much more "highly-developed" because of your emotional responses, then maybe put them into practice and use some empathy. People are people, and they cannot help the way they were born. It is unfortunate, it is difficult, but it is certainly no one's fault.

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  120. I've been married to one for 15 years now. We have two children. He was recently diagnosed as a narcissistic sociopath. At first I thought oh well. Your the same person u have always been. Then I started researching it and suddenly my whole life makes sense. Why he can never hold down a job with a direct boss. Why I feel like a lab rat most of the time. For a while I got stronger when he became a truck driver and got to where he couldn't manipulate me as much. Now he's hurt and can't work anymore. How shrink says he can change but only if he really wants to. Can he really? Anyone trying to stick it out?

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  121. You sociopaths are fucking loosers. You still live in jurassic park in that you see every1 as either prey or rival. Your reptilian super primitive brain is hyperactive. You dont know to love, since this is a higher lvl of consciousness than jurassic park. You see yourself as the pinnacle of evolution (according to the darwinian model), but you're actually at the bottom. You live in hell, which is why you can only bring hell to other ppl. I dont know why many ppl fall for you so easily, since that would be the equivalent of falling for dirt. Maybe they like feeling of being subjugated?

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  122. You think sociopath has less negative impact as psychopath let me tell you something you are wrong Jamie R Lund you are a plain psychopath whether you are a psychopath or sociopath it does not make any difference you are BAD you are not a human being you are a different species and we humans dont like you, why didn't you reveal your true identidy? your nieces and nephew will find out about you eventually...and I am telling you they will leave walk away from you.

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  123. I have been married to a sociopath for 15 years. We meet when I was 14 and he was 23. I got pregnant (after him telling me he couldn't have kids) and we got married. It took him finally going to a shrink a year ago to find out what was wrong with him. After that everything made sense. His self centeredness, how he never held down a job, the scandals, the lies, the half truths, him treating me like property. Thats just the tip of the ice burge so I'll spare the details. I've wanted out for years but he just ignored it. All the while excuse my language being treated like a vagina with legs and a job. He made me feel like that was all I was good for. 2 years ago I did something wrong. I had an affair and I really love this guy. He found out and still wants to work it out with me and threatening to kill the guy. I am terrified he will. No joke. I also go to a shrink unfortunately it is also his. The shrink keeps trying to make me work it out with him. Even knowing how he is because they believe I'm the only one holding him together. He is trying for disability so if I kick him out he will have no money or nowhere to go so I'm letting him stay here with our kids till the settlement comes through. I still care about what happenes to him but that gets confused with me wanting to work it out. I just can't take this emotional rollercoaster anymore. He can't understand why I just can't love him anymore. After 16 years one can only take so much and he still does not respect me sexually. He will brow beat me till I agree and I'll cry the whole time and he doesn't care. What bothers me the most is these health professionals say I really need to work it out with him. I don't understand. Does my happiness not matter? Am I supposed to be treated like dirt just so he doesn't fall apart? I'm staying away from the guy I'm had the affair with because I know he will kill him even though he made me the happiest I had even been in years. So yes the affair was my fault and I messed up there. I would of waited for a divorce but I know in my gut he will never let me go. He also has my family wrapped around his figure. My mom takes his side always falling for his "oh woe is me" stories. I honestly feel like a prisoner in my own home. No parental support no professional help I need some advice please. I am terrified that the only way this will end is one of the three of us are dead. I also told the shrink this and he just shrugged it off. Anyone with ANY advice please help.

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  124. I am a bookworm and I really struggled finishing your book it was all about me,me, me-which did not surprise me at all soo boring...I laughed my head off when you compared yourselves to child prodigies...you are nothing a like.
    You do not contribute to this world, let alone contribution you are a nuisance on this earth. On the other hand child prodigies are genius and have something that you will never have, positive feelings.
    Actually I feel very sorry for your kind, you suffer from a chronic boredom that will go to grave with you, you will never experience love, joy and happiness. You don't live you just exist on this planet and I hope your species existence is very short lived.

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  136. LYDIA LAURES
    I had a problem with my boyfriend 6 months ago, which lead to our broke up. When he broke up with me, i was not myself again; i fill so empty inside me. Until a friend of mine told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too. i email the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happening, not up to 48 hours, my boyfriend gave me a call and he come back to me and told me he was sorry for everything that happen,i am so greatful to this spell caster and will not stop publishing his name on the net for the good work he is doing.If you need his help,you can email him at (ugbeninspellsolutiontemple@gmail.com) and he will also help you too Dr TRUST of (ugbeninspellsolutiontemple@gmail.com) i will forever be greatful to you.

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  137. I have never thought that I would be among the people that will share their testimonies here. I want to send special “Thank You” to Lavonne aubrey whom testimony I read early last month lead me to dr. ogunmefun. jeremy dumped me b/c of huge misunderstanding after 4years of our peaceful. I gave him all my heart and every part of my body, but he made up his mind within seconds.
    I consulted Dr. ogunmefun after ready the testimonies about him with FAITH. Though the spell process took 7days to call his distracted spirit back to where it belong and it wasn’t easy for me, but I am finally happy today that Henry is fully back to me. We are happier than before and he appreciates me more all because of Dr. ogunmefun's love miracle. This spell is not evil and Dr. ogunmefun did not do any blood sacrifice for us, I respect his religion and power that’s why it worked out for me. this an opportunity for you smile as well,you can restore your love/broken marriage..... dr.ogunmefunherbalisthome@gmail.com (contact)

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  138. I have been suffering from (HERPES) disease for the last four years and had constant pain, especially in my knees. During the first year,I had faith in God that i would be healed someday.This disease started circulate all over my body and i have been taking treatment from my doctor, few weeks ago i came on search on the internet if i could get any information concerning the prevention of this disease, on my search i saw a testimony of someone who has been healed from (Hepatitis B and Cancer) by this Man Dr ERO and she also gave the email address of this man and advise we should contact him for any sickness that he would be of help, so i wrote to Dr ERO telling him about my (HERPES Virus) he told me not to worry that i was going to be cured!! hmm i never believed it,, well after all the procedures and remedy given to me by this man few weeks later i started experiencing changes all over me as the Dr assured me that i have cured,after some time i went to my doctor to confirmed if i have be finally healed behold it was TRUE, So friends my advise is if you have such sickness or any other at all you can email Dr ERO on : (eromosalspiritualtemple@gmail.com) or call him on +2348161850195 sir i am indeed grateful for the help i will forever recommend you to my friends!!!

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